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20100823 02:02:44< Gambit> Ahh my walks are so productive.
20100823 02:02:56< Gambit> Today while gone I figured out the perfect way to encrypt variables in WML
20100823 02:03:07< Gambit> Or lua
20100823 02:03:13< Blueblaze> COOL
20100823 02:03:28< Gambit> Blueblaze: I KNOW RIGHT!?
20100823 02:03:32< Gambit> WHY ARE WE YELLING?
20100823 02:03:40< Blueblaze> only you are
20100823 02:03:42< Blueblaze> :\
20100823 02:04:27< Gambit> PK: want to hear this awesome story? :D
20100823 02:04:42< Gambit> So what you do is you take all your most important numeric variables and make them a big string
20100823 02:05:11< Gambit> big_string = $gold$unit.hitpoints$cheeseburgers$inventory[i].item_code
20100823 02:05:37< Gambit> A big ass-string
20100823 02:05:37< Gambit> http://xkcd.com/37/
20100823 02:05:51< Gambit> Then you split it into an array of numbers.
20100823 02:06:11< Gambit> Then for each number 1-9 you set a random letter of the alphabet.
20100823 02:06:27< Gambit> Then for each number in your big ass-string you replace it with the corresponding random letter.
20100823 02:06:47< Gambit> Then you rejoin the array of replaced numbers
20100823 02:06:59< Gambit> Then you put the random letters in a group at the begining
20100823 02:07:01< Gambit> for example:
20100823 02:07:14< Gambit> WMUYPOZSY;ASNFSAMDSMADSAGEARRWQAFEGDSAFASDADWQFEFSADFW
20100823 02:07:20< Gambit> would be a newly incrypted ass-string
20100823 02:07:28< Gambit> Then you store that along with all your other persistent variables
20100823 02:07:36< Gambit> Then when you load the game
20100823 02:07:41< Gambit> You load all the persistent variables
20100823 02:07:46< Gambit> And you decrypt the ass-string
20100823 02:07:55< Gambit> You make a second ass-string out the loaded persistent variables
20100823 02:08:01< Gambit> Compare the two ass-strings
20100823 02:08:04< Gambit> If they don't match
20100823 02:08:16< Gambit> "PLAYER $side_number IS A BIG ASS-CHEATER!"
20100823 02:08:23< Gambit> And you tell them to abort the game right there.
20100823 02:08:25< Gambit> Voila
20100823 02:09:06< Gambit> Aethaeryn, PK, shadowmaster, Espreon, anyone-else-who-plans-to-use-persistent-variables-and-doesn't-want-cheating ^^^
20100823 02:09:58 * Gambit pastebin's that all to Soliton >:]
20100823 02:19:28< Gambit> shadowmaster: can we get a preview button in quick reply?
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20100823 02:39:08< AI0867> Gambit: sounds like obfuscated verification
20100823 02:40:45< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: no
20100823 02:41:20< shadowm_laptop> it's a Quick Reply box, not a Complete Reply Editor box
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20100823 02:52:06< Gambit> All it really does is verify that data hasn't changed since the last save
20100823 02:52:45< Gambit> But it can still be cheated with an add-on
20100823 02:53:21< Gambit> [20:34:05] <Sapient> thanks. those who would moderate others must be able to moderate themself ;)
20100823 02:53:30< Gambit> I guess it's public knowledge?
20100823 02:53:33< Gambit> :
20100823 03:07:14< Gambit> Ha I just introduced a friend to IRC and used this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
20100823 03:46:17< shadowm_laptop> where's that Sapient quote from?
20100823 03:56:35< PK> agh, all this new freenode site is confusing.
20100823 03:56:48< shadowm_laptop> PK: what?
20100823 03:57:03< shadowm_laptop> freenode's been around for over a decade, what's new about it?
20100823 03:57:05< PK> The freenode java applet site, it changed since last time I used it, I can no longer figure out how to whisper.
20100823 03:57:12< PK> it's entirely different
20100823 03:57:26< shadowm_laptop> java.freenode.net was discontinued
20100823 03:57:35< shadowm_laptop> webchat.freenode.net has been around for over a year
20100823 03:57:42< PK> yes well, it's differnet.
20100823 03:57:44< shadowm_laptop> and it has replaced java.freenode.net
20100823 03:57:54< PK> What if I liked coffee freenode? D:
20100823 03:57:56< shadowm_laptop> /query   is used to PM people
20100823 03:58:19< PK> huh.
20100823 03:58:20< shadowm_laptop> i.e. talk in private to them
20100823 03:58:23< PK> That's interesting.
20100823 03:58:28< shadowm_laptop> that's the standard for all IRC clients out there
20100823 03:58:38< PK> This was the first one I ever used
20100823 03:58:50< PK> so I wouldn't know.
20100823 03:59:11< shadowm_laptop> unfortunately, java.freenode.net was rather unmaintained, so support for it had to be discontinued [ http://blog.freenode.net/2010/08/java-webclient-decommissioning/ ]
20100823 04:03:51< Gambit> shadowmaster: a query
20100823 04:04:43< Aethaeryn> PK: no one serious about IRC uses either a web client or an IM client (like Pidgin) unless they have no choice.
20100823 04:04:48< Gambit> shadowmaster: I didn't realize the forum didn't filter ass
20100823 04:04:54< Aethaeryn> They're both seriously lacking in common featuresets as they are designed for other purposes.
20100823 04:04:59< Gambit> So when posting the above epiphany into WML workshop
20100823 04:05:00< Aethaeryn> It would be like using a typewriter to write a paper
20100823 04:05:10< Gambit> Well you get the idea.
20100823 04:05:26< Gambit> Normally I do read my posts after posting them
20100823 04:05:47< Gambit> I'd blame my parents, but Sapient is totally right.
20100823 04:06:25< Gambit> Plus I could have read it after coming back.
20100823 04:06:40< Gambit> I did edit it afterall.
20100823 04:07:47< Gambit> 'twill not happen again
20100823 04:08:36< Gambit> Aethaeryn: Real Men™ use telnet
20100823 04:09:18< Gambit> Actually Real Men™ write their own packet listener/responder
20100823 04:09:26< Gambit> s/pa/so/
20100823 04:10:39< Aethaeryn> Gambit: ssh > telnet
20100823 04:10:40< Aethaeryn> duh
20100823 04:10:53< Aethaeryn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet
20100823 04:10:56< Aethaeryn> see for instance:
20100823 04:11:01< Aethaeryn> "Because of security issues with Telnet, its use for this purpose has waned in favor of SSH."
20100823 04:12:52< shadowm_laptop> telnet is better suited for a text protocol like IRC
20100823 04:13:44 * shadowm_laptop pokes PeterPorty 
20100823 04:13:57< PeterPorty> huh?
20100823 04:14:03< shadowm_laptop> PeterPorty: you aren't joining ##shadowm?
20100823 04:14:20< PeterPorty> I am there
20100823 04:14:30< shadowm_laptop> nope
20100823 04:14:50< PeterPorty> wait, I'm busy slaying tolls
20100823 04:15:21< shadowm_laptop> I hate tolls too.
20100823 04:16:10< shadowm_laptop> I don't understand why anyone would want to restrict one's access to a highway like that
20100823 04:18:49< Gambit> shadowmaster: Well those roads are ussually paved better.
20100823 04:18:55< Gambit> That money has to come from somewhere?
20100823 04:19:02< shadowm_laptop> hm, indeed.
20100823 04:20:39< Aethaeryn> shadowm_laptop: but... security/
20100823 04:21:02< shadowm_laptop> Aethaeryn: I won't kill you for joining ##shadowm
20100823 04:21:08< shadowm_laptop> ah, you mean the tolls.
20100823 04:21:26< shadowm_laptop> yeah, security, right. Then how do you explain the car accidents in highways?
20100823 04:22:18< shadowm_laptop> and dead people, and animals, and garbage, and annoying road-sign-painting guys taking over long lane portions...
20100823 04:22:27< shadowm_laptop> and tolls.
20100823 04:22:43< shadowm_laptop> can't forget the tolls.
20100823 04:31:35< PK> see, I think toll booths should give snocones, instead of requesting money.
20100823 04:32:39< Gambit> shadowmaster: ^fortune?
20100823 04:32:42< Gambit> :D
20100823 04:32:48< Gambit> Or must they be strictly wesnoth related
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20100823 04:34:47< shadowmaster> yes
20100823 04:34:52< shadowmaster> they must.
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20100823 14:08:54 * Gambit is getting kde-minimal for the lulz
20100823 14:15:00< Gambit> The luls are satisfied.
20100823 14:15:19< Gambit> Except that apparently konquerer is part of kde-minimal...
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20100823 18:23:20< elvish_sovereign> hey
20100823 18:23:26< artisticdude_> I'm here.
20100823 18:23:39< elvish_sovereign> http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net
20100823 18:23:57< elvish_sovereign> click on the top right, 'SVN'
20100823 18:24:19< elvish_sovereign> to use the web interface just copy the link
20100823 18:24:29< elvish_sovereign> in 'Checking out the repository'
20100823 18:25:12< elvish_sovereign> for svn it is not recommended to checkout the whole thing
20100823 18:25:17< elvish_sovereign> it wastes space
20100823 18:25:28< elvish_sovereign> first get the era in
20100823 18:25:37< elvish_sovereign> then i believe the url will be something like
20100823 18:26:06< elvish_sovereign> http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev/branches/1.8/the_wesnoth_forum_faction/
20100823 18:26:19< elvish_sovereign> so then in terminal type
20100823 18:26:32< elvish_sovereign> svn co http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev/ wesnoth-umc-dev-twff
20100823 18:26:44< elvish_sovereign> then it'll just download those files
20100823 18:27:03< elvish_sovereign> and create a copy of the repo into your computer
20100823 18:27:34< artisticdude_> Okay...
20100823 18:27:46< elvish_sovereign> oh wait
20100823 18:27:50< elvish_sovereign> the command was wrong
20100823 18:28:05< elvish_sovereign> svn co http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev/branches/1.8/the_wesnoth_forum_faction/ wesnoth-umc-dev-twff
20100823 18:28:22< artisticdude_> Okay.
20100823 18:28:52< elvish_sovereign> well first create the account and talk to Espreon or shadowmaster
20100823 18:29:11< artisticdude_> I've already got a sourceforge account, so I'll put the era up at some point in the next couple of days (whenever I finish the last couple lines' balance)
20100823 18:29:21< elvish_sovereign> cool.
20100823 18:29:41< artisticdude_> Okay, well thanks a TON for helping me out like that.
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20100823 22:09:22< Gambit> I think now that I at least know a little bit of what I'm doing on the C++ i'd like to add the real time as an automatically stored variable
20100823 22:11:16< Gambit> The problem is all the sides could potentially have different times in MP.
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