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20100828 01:40:00<+janebot> Wesnoth Forum | DeathCow posted in Website • Table BBCode on 08-27-2010 at 23:33:04 URL: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=31385&p=453005#p453005
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20100828 04:22:56<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: elvishsovereign * r7538 /branches/1.8/Promised_Land/scenarios/story_Prologue.cfg: Minor edits to the story sequence in the Prologue
20100828 04:51:49<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: AI0867 * r7539 /trunk/The_Dark_Hordes/ (STORYBOARD scenarios/11_An_Orcish_Coup.cfg): More work on scenario 11
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20100828 15:04:44< zookeeper> anyone want to play a test game of proximity?
20100828 15:05:01< zookeeper> (using trunk)
20100828 15:07:45< Gambit> Yes
20100828 15:08:55< Gambit> zookeeper: Are you in the lobby?
20100828 15:09:22< zookeeper> not yet, i gotta do one quick local test more...
20100828 15:14:16< zookeeper> almost done...
20100828 15:15:33< zookeeper> ok, i think i'm done, i'll be in the lobby in a few minutes
20100828 15:27:29< Gambit> Ah
20100828 15:27:33< Gambit> I was aiming for territory
20100828 15:29:01< zookeeper> oh?
20100828 15:29:37< zookeeper> anyway, i first thought about making hex-shaped maps, but those have an odd number of hexes, which isn't good
20100828 15:30:33< zookeeper> as for territory, the counter is there because i'm going to add options that allow you to set whether the victory condition is armies or territory
20100828 15:30:45< zookeeper> and some other stuff too, quite likely
20100828 15:33:31< Gambit> Cool
20100828 15:35:32< Gambit> I'm working on a persistent rpg
20100828 15:35:39< Gambit> But it doesn't handle multiple players well :\
20100828 15:38:56< Gambit> OH I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS
20100828 15:38:59< Gambit> durr
20100828 15:39:18< Gambit> When you store the units as side one
20100828 15:39:28< Gambit> if you're playing side 2 when you load them...
20100828 15:48:44< Gambit> Strange. On the first game I play it's fine.
20100828 15:48:50< Gambit> But if I abort that game, it will crash if I start another.
20100828 15:48:54< Gambit> Unless I restart wesnoth.
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20100828 16:02:46< Gambit> Ugh I just accidentally downloaded my add-on instead of uploading.
20100828 16:02:53< Gambit> Apparently that erases your pbl file :)
20100828 16:06:30< Gambit> not to mention the lost changes
20100828 16:17:22< Gambit> Hmm character generation OOS's, but if everyone already has a character then it's peachy.
20100828 16:19:56< Gambit> So I could A. Force everyone to play a single player tutorial before going to MP. Or B. Actually fix the problem.
20100828 16:25:05< Gambit> Hmm a [message] with [text_input] or [option] in an event fired with [fire_event] is not synchronized.
20100828 16:25:07< Gambit> Or so it seems.
20100828 16:25:56< Gambit> when the [message] is side_for
20100828 16:27:34< Gambit> Nope doesn't work in side turn 2 either. hmm
20100828 16:27:43< Gambit> oh I didn't upload changes :\
20100828 16:28:14< Gambit> Coordinating an add-on between two computers while it's in development is really annoying.
20100828 16:34:12< Gambit> ah I don't need side_for
20100828 16:42:08< fendrin> Gambit: Did you ever work with the persistence feature?
20100828 16:42:36< Gambit> fendrin: I'm working with it right now :D
20100828 16:42:46< Gambit> I've been asking for it for a while.
20100828 16:42:48< fendrin> Gambit: I am trying to store a global variable but can't see it on disk.
20100828 16:43:02< Gambit> userdata/persist/namespace.cfg
20100828 16:43:06< Gambit> ?
20100828 16:43:15< Gambit> fendrin: Are you using immediate=yes ?
20100828 16:43:23< fendrin> Gambit: no
20100828 16:43:39< fendrin> Gambit: I thought that would delay the writing till the end of the scenario. 
20100828 16:43:55< Gambit> Other way around.
20100828 16:44:07< fendrin> Yeah.
20100828 16:44:35< fendrin> I am not using immediate=yes and not using it will delay the writing till the end of the scenario.
20100828 16:44:47< fendrin> That is fine for me.
20100828 16:44:57< fendrin> Should I try immediate=yes ?
20100828 16:45:03< Gambit> I'd try it.
20100828 16:46:16< Gambit> I can't see a reason not to use that exclusively tbh.
20100828 17:21:02< fendrin> Gambit: Does get_global_variable always clear it?
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20100828 18:21:53< Gambit> fendrin: getting the global should never clear it
20100828 18:22:01< Gambit> It will clear the local variable though
20100828 18:34:25< fendrin> Gambit: I loose the persistence the moment the variable gets read.
20100828 18:34:47< fendrin> Gambit: The variable in the file is empty after get_global_variable.
20100828 18:36:28< Gambit> Strange.
20100828 18:36:58< Gambit> I had issues when setting from_local=foo.bar
20100828 18:37:04< Gambit> It had to just be from a top level thing
20100828 18:38:01< Gambit> fendrin: Also you asked yesterday about setting to all sides
20100828 18:38:05< Gambit> It looks like there is "side=global"
20100828 18:38:08< Gambit> according to the wiki
20100828 18:41:56< fendrin> Gambit: I am also using foo.bar.
20100828 18:42:07< fendrin> Gambit: Seems like you answered all my questions.
20100828 18:42:28< fendrin> Gambit: It's a pitty if the persistent thing would not support nested variables.
20100828 18:42:44< Gambit> interestingly you can store a unit to variable foo
20100828 18:42:52< Gambit> (which is a bunch of nested variables)
20100828 18:42:57< Gambit> transfer that to global
20100828 18:43:00< Gambit> and everything is kept
20100828 18:43:16< Gambit> But you can't transfer like... foo.hitpoint
20100828 18:43:24< Gambit> *+s
20100828 18:44:21< Gambit> Hopefully Upthorn will stay with the project and refine it.
20100828 18:44:47< fendrin> Something is strange on the wiki with the immediate attribute. It's mentioned that it isn't working in [get_global_variable] but used in the example. But it's missing in the example of [set_global_variable] where it is meaningful.
20100828 18:45:36< Gambit> Typo I guess
20100828 18:45:51< Gambit> [get_global_variable] is always immediate
20100828 18:47:54< Gambit> fendrin: Do you have a recent copy of trunk, and some spare minutes to see something?
20100828 18:48:08< fendrin> Gambit: Both is true.
20100828 18:48:33< Gambit> fendrin: Get the add-on "Valianca", and meet me in the lobby? :D
20100828 18:56:49< fendrin> Gambit: okay
20100828 18:57:07< Gambit> Cool
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