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20100809 01:33:17< PetePorty> shadowmaster, are you kiddin me!?
20100809 01:33:31< shadowmaster> why "pnly" was so funny?
20100809 01:33:44< PetePorty> who said it was
20100809 01:33:49< PetePorty> I said 'heh'
20100809 01:33:57< shadowmaster> then why the "heh"?
20100809 01:34:02< PetePorty> that isn0t Lol or haha
20100809 01:34:08< PetePorty> heh is just a little funny...
20100809 01:34:54< PetePorty> nevermind, I'll go play prototype, my totally not pirated game
20100809 01:34:56< PetePorty> c ya man
20100809 01:35:04 * PetePorty hugs shadowmaster 
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20100809 03:55:54< Hulavuta> hi
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20100809 03:59:55< andyis> hola
20100809 04:01:26< Hulavuta> Hi
20100809 04:02:03< andyis> I have a problem; I assume this is where a solution would exist?
20100809 04:02:09< Hulavuta> Yes
20100809 04:02:22< Hulavuta> What's your problem?
20100809 04:02:49< andyis> Well, I want to get more campaigns onto wesnoth
20100809 04:03:00< andyis> But the download thingy is confusing me
20100809 04:03:09< Hulavuta> Ok,
20100809 04:03:28< andyis> I can connect to the official server ok
20100809 04:03:34< Hulavuta> can't?
20100809 04:03:40< Hulavuta> nvm
20100809 04:03:54< joo> Go on..
20100809 04:03:57< andyis> And it seems to download fine
20100809 04:03:58< Hulavuta> So what's the exact problem?
20100809 04:04:04< Hulavuta> But it doesn't appear?
20100809 04:04:09< andyis> And after it resets, nothing is changed in the campaign menu
20100809 04:04:10< andyis> yeah
20100809 04:04:15< Hulavuta> Hmm
20100809 04:04:19< joo> hmm
20100809 04:04:21< Hulavuta> Did you try constructing additional pylons?
20100809 04:04:23< joo> Which campaign?
20100809 04:04:24< andyis> xD
20100809 04:04:28< joo> And what version do you have?
20100809 04:04:30< andyis> Well, a few
20100809 04:04:36< Hulavuta> Okay, seriously, name one
20100809 04:04:38< andyis> Ver 1.6.5
20100809 04:04:46< joo> Try updating
20100809 04:04:50< andyis> Uhhh... I was encoutnering this yesterday
20100809 04:04:51< andyis> Oh
20100809 04:04:52< Hulavuta> Yeah
20100809 04:04:54< Hulavuta> To 1.8
20100809 04:04:56< andyis> DAMMIt
20100809 04:05:00< joo> xD
20100809 04:05:02< andyis> I got it through Ubuntu Tweak :P
20100809 04:05:05< andyis> Great game.
20100809 04:05:28< joo> construct additional evolution chambers
20100809 04:05:31< andyis> xD
20100809 04:05:37< andyis> Hmmm
20100809 04:06:06< Hulavuta> joo: you killed it.
20100809 04:06:43< andyis> You need more vespene gas!
20100809 04:06:55< Hulavuta> ...
20100809 04:06:56< andyis> Aha
20100809 04:06:58< Hulavuta> :-(
20100809 04:07:01< andyis> I shall do this...
20100809 04:07:07< andyis> the old-school way!
20100809 04:07:12< andyis> Apt-get ftw
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20100809 04:10:34< andyis> :P
20100809 04:10:42< Hulavuta> andyis: So, are you planning to upgrade?
20100809 04:10:49< andyis> I already am
20100809 04:10:54< andyis> Its just taking a while to download
20100809 04:11:16< andyis> 60 MB so far
20100809 04:11:34< andyis> (but if I can figure out how to get the new campaigns to work)
20100809 04:11:41< andyis> I might start making my own
20100809 04:11:52< andyis> since I am great with insanely obscure markup languages.
20100809 04:12:06< andyis> PDS 3 and PPI ruleset ftw
20100809 04:12:25< Hulavuta> a wut
20100809 04:13:14< joo> I killed you
20100809 04:13:17< andyis> I work for the IGPP at UCLA, and we get a ton of data from NASA's space missions
20100809 04:13:21< joo> s/past tense/future tense
20100809 04:13:38< andyis> And that data tends to be just pure numbers.
20100809 04:14:30< andyis> By formatting labels to explain the data in PDS 3 language, people who can tell "HOLY FUCK A METEOR IS GONA TAKE OUT NYC" can actually read the data
20100809 04:15:14< andyis> I run a ruleset to make such labels by using a ruleset to take things from the data to make the label file.
20100809 04:15:20< shadowmaster> Hulavuta: exactly what do you mean by "installing" Wordpress?
20100809 04:15:36< Hulavuta> I'm not sure
20100809 04:15:42< Hulavuta> By "install" I basically mean "use"
20100809 04:15:44< Hulavuta> I guess
20100809 04:16:18< shadowmaster> if you aren't sure about what you are doing, then how do you expect me to know?
20100809 04:16:39< shadowmaster> I don't have a crystal ball over here.
20100809 04:16:52< Hulavuta> Well my question was if WordPress would be good for what I planned to use it for
20100809 04:17:03< shadowmaster> I answered that yesterday I think.
20100809 04:17:14< Hulavuta> Well, I have amore specific question
20100809 04:17:49< Hulavuta> I'm going to look it up though
20100809 04:17:57< shadowmaster> I'm holding my breath.
20100809 04:18:08< shadowmaster> so ask before you are blamed for my death.
20100809 04:18:26< Hulavuta> Okay fine
20100809 04:18:39< Hulavuta> Do you have to have your own server? I think yesterday you said it makes one for you?
20100809 04:18:48< shadowmaster> depends on what you are doing.
20100809 04:18:58< shadowmaster> since you don't really know what you are doing, well... (?!)
20100809 04:19:07< Hulavuta> Lets say I don't have a server
20100809 04:19:12< Hulavuta> (because I don't)
20100809 04:19:25< shadowmaster> okay.
20100809 04:19:27< Hulavuta> And I want to set up a "blog" 
20100809 04:19:32< andyis> Use blogspot
20100809 04:19:33< andyis> :P
20100809 04:19:36< Hulavuta> no
20100809 04:19:40< andyis> Oh, sorry
20100809 04:19:42< shadowmaster> you do realize that wordpress.com is a blog hosting site?
20100809 04:19:43< Hulavuta> lol
20100809 04:19:47< Hulavuta> Yes
20100809 04:19:55< shadowmaster> so you don't have anything to install.
20100809 04:19:59< shadowmaster> you sign-up for an account, etc.
20100809 04:20:10< Hulavuta> ok
20100809 04:20:13< shadowmaster> if you wanted to install wordpress on a server of your own you'd go to wordpress.org instead.
20100809 04:20:17< shadowmaster> (notice the TLD)
20100809 04:20:32< Hulavuta> So I should make an account before installing?
20100809 04:20:47< shadowmaster> YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO INSTALL.
20100809 04:20:52< shadowmaster> how many times do I need to say this?
20100809 04:20:56< Hulavuta> you just said install though
20100809 04:21:08< shadowmaster> 22:19:54 <shadowmaster> so you don't have anything to install.
20100809 04:21:17< shadowmaster> 22:20:13 <shadowmaster> if you wanted to install wordpress on a server of your own you'd go to wordpress.org instead.
20100809 04:21:22< Hulavuta> That's what I meant,
20100809 04:21:32< shadowmaster> a server of your own.
20100809 04:21:36< shadowmaster> not the same as getting a free account at wordpress.com.
20100809 04:21:48 * shadowmaster scratches head.
20100809 04:22:00< shadowmaster> I can't figure out a way to make this clear enough.
20100809 04:22:18< Hulavuta> one sec
20100809 04:23:07< shadowmaster> wordpress is the blogging platform (wordpress.org)
20100809 04:23:14< shadowmaster> wordpress.com is the free hosting service
20100809 04:23:16< shadowmaster> for wordpress blogs.
20100809 04:24:06< shadowmaster> (it can also be paid, but free functionality is pretty much enough for most people)
20100809 04:27:01< andyis> OOOK
20100809 04:27:04< andyis> Thank you guys
20100809 04:27:08< andyis> That works :D
20100809 04:27:24< shadowmaster> no problem, what did I do?
20100809 04:27:39< Hulavuta> He's talking about earlier
20100809 04:27:45< Hulavuta> Problem with add-ons
20100809 04:27:51< Hulavuta> I thin
20100809 04:27:53< Hulavuta> *think
20100809 04:27:57< andyis> Yeah
20100809 04:28:01< andyis> Twas fixed
20100809 04:28:45< Hulavuta> shadowmaster: Okay, so I made the account, what do I do next?
20100809 04:28:51< shadowmaster> and no, I'm not going to guide you trough the process any further since that's something that you are supposed to figure out on your own, and that you can learn from the website's own help pages.
20100809 04:29:09< andyis> Yeah
20100809 04:29:24< Hulavuta> :'(
20100809 04:29:28< andyis> But so being one to always seek something useful if it will let me help others,
20100809 04:29:48< shadowmaster> Hulavuta: it's part of growing up.
20100809 04:29:50< andyis> Could I set up a server of my own on a regular desktop computer?
20100809 04:29:51< shadowmaster> :)
20100809 04:29:59< shadowmaster> andyis: only if your ISP allows that.
20100809 04:30:05< andyis> Aha
20100809 04:30:05< Hulavuta> I know, but you're confusing me as well...
20100809 04:30:11< shadowmaster> and then, you might run into problems with resource consumption and uptime
20100809 04:30:23< andyis> That I shall ask.
20100809 04:30:28< shadowmaster> but if you want to serve something smallish it would do.
20100809 04:30:35< andyis> And if not, lifehacker surely will have a workaround.
20100809 04:30:40< andyis> Yeah
20100809 04:30:46< shadowmaster> my laptop could serve a website if I had a strong connection with a static IP.
20100809 04:30:48< andyis> It would largely be just for stuff for me to post
20100809 04:30:52< andyis> Yeah
20100809 04:30:59< andyis> Ahhhh
20100809 04:31:03< andyis> That is a problem then :P
20100809 04:31:08< andyis> I know i have a dynamic IP
20100809 04:31:09< shadowmaster> yeah, don't forget the static IP.
20100809 04:31:13< andyis> yups
20100809 04:31:25< shadowmaster> there are services like dyndns.org to work around that
20100809 04:31:30< andyis> Yeah
20100809 04:31:35< shadowmaster> I mean dyndns.com
20100809 04:31:38< shadowmaster> reliable? no idea
20100809 04:31:39< andyis> I know of them
20100809 04:31:41< andyis> Aha
20100809 04:31:57< andyis> So using their domain will get around the dynamic IP problem then?
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20100809 04:33:04< shadowmaster> probably.
20100809 04:33:17< shadowmaster> you'll still want a reliable connection, especially if you want to serve a website 24/7
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20100809 04:33:40< Hulavuta> im on fire
20100809 04:34:02< andyis> yeah
20100809 04:34:08< andyis> This wont be anything too big
20100809 04:34:21< andyis> And it should be reliable once I get TWC to get me a new Wireless N router
20100809 04:34:23< andyis> :P
20100809 04:36:07< Hulavuta> Meh, I'm done with wordpress
20100809 04:36:21< andyis> lol
20100809 04:36:45< Hulavuta> Not because it was complicated,
20100809 04:37:09< Hulavuta> but because I found another site that fits what I was trying to do more
20100809 04:37:27< shadowmaster> how absurd.
20100809 04:37:37< shadowmaster> exactly what are you trying to do?
20100809 04:37:37< Hulavuta> That's also easier
20100809 04:37:47< Hulavuta> Not right a blog,
20100809 04:37:51< Hulavuta> *write
20100809 04:37:59< shadowmaster> :|
20100809 04:38:05< Hulavuta> wut
20100809 04:38:10< shadowmaster> so you wasted my time for doing what?
20100809 04:38:12< andyis> lol
20100809 04:38:13< shadowmaster> *made me waste my time
20100809 04:38:15< Hulavuta> sorry
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20100809 04:38:26< Hulavuta> I'll give you more time
20100809 04:38:40< shadowmaster> stop apologizing and just tell me what you wanted to do
20100809 04:38:51< shadowmaster> hopefully it doesn't involve destroying public and private property
20100809 04:38:53< shadowmaster> :P
20100809 04:38:54< Hulavuta> I simply wanted to find a site to post writing and whatnot
20100809 04:39:06< shadowmaster> okay.
20100809 04:39:08< Hulavuta> Remember Mad libs?
20100809 04:39:17 * shadowmaster fails to see the difference
20100809 04:39:21< shadowmaster> mad what?
20100809 04:39:26< Hulavuta> Well, 
20100809 04:39:37< Hulavuta> This is easier, I already have an account and everything,
20100809 04:39:58< shadowmaster> "Mad Libs (from ad lib, a spontaneous improvisation) is a phrasal template word game  where one player prompts another for a list of words to substitute for blanks in a story, usually with funny results. The game is especially popular with American children and is frequently played as a party game or as a pastime."
20100809 04:40:04< Hulavuta> Yeah that's it
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20100809 04:40:20 * shadowmaster raises eyebrow.
20100809 04:40:25< Hulavuta> One day, Bill went to the (noun)
20100809 04:40:39< Hulavuta> where he (verb) a (noun)
20100809 04:40:48< Hulavuta> And then his (family member) then gave him a (noun)
20100809 04:41:01< shadowmaster> sir, I think this is a folly, and I'm not going to take part in your plans.
20100809 04:41:04 * shadowmaster closes door.
20100809 04:41:07< Hulavuta> bye
20100809 04:41:27< Gambit> Well this looks like an interesting conversation
20100809 04:41:29 * shadowmaster opens door
20100809 04:41:41< shadowmaster> forgot my hat.
20100809 04:41:43< Warrigal> One day, Bill went to the image, where he sneezed a medicine.  And then his uncle then gave him a money.
20100809 04:41:48 * shadowmaster closes door.
20100809 04:42:11< Warrigal> But anyway, Battle for Wesnoth.  I and a friend are interested in forming a little group so we can play regularly.  Is anyone up for it?
20100809 04:42:12< joo> One day, Bill went to the toilet
20100809 04:42:12< joo> where he pushed a brich
20100809 04:42:12< joo> And then his sister then gave him a rusty trombone
20100809 04:42:20< joo> *brick
20100809 04:42:27< Gambit> Hulavuta: But the answer to your question is
20100809 04:42:28< Gambit> No
20100809 04:42:32< Gambit> Wordpress sucks
20100809 04:42:32< Hulavuta> joo: You added an adjective
20100809 04:42:42< joo> oh, damn, you're right
20100809 04:42:45< Hulavuta> Gambit: what question?
20100809 04:42:46< Gambit> Hulavuta: Go Google; Get blogger
20100809 04:42:51< shadowmaster> Gambit: your mom sucks. Although I have to agree about Wordpress, but it's because it's overused.
20100809 04:42:54< shadowmaster> and blogger also sucks
20100809 04:42:56< shadowmaster> I used it once.
20100809 04:42:59< Hulavuta> I already have a blogger
20100809 04:43:01< Hulavuta> and it sucks
20100809 04:43:04< Gambit> Yes but blogger is better thant wordpress
20100809 04:43:06< shadowmaster> I prefer my own hosting.
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20100809 04:43:08< Gambit> Hulavuta: lies
20100809 04:43:15< shadowmaster> and I use serendipity.
20100809 04:43:16< Hulavuta> which one?
20100809 04:43:25< shadowmaster> all the flexibility I need.
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20100809 04:43:29< Gambit> Wordpress is google so that automatically makes it good then everything else in its category
20100809 04:43:32< shadowmaster> in  a single, neat package
20100809 04:43:42< Gambit> s/good/bettererererest/
20100809 04:43:58< Gambit> Screw wordpress
20100809 04:44:00< Gambit> Make money
20100809 04:44:07< Warrigal> Oh, scratch that.  Is anyone up for a game right now?
20100809 04:44:15< Blarumyrran> I didn't understand anything of your sentence, Gambit 
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20100809 04:44:18< Hulavuta> Gambit: I don't like Blogger because everything is too tight
20100809 04:44:28< Gambit> Hulavuta: So then get a different theme
20100809 04:44:29< Gambit> duhhhhh
20100809 04:44:42< Hulavuta> lemme see yours
20100809 04:44:44< Gambit> settings->layout->designer
20100809 04:44:52< Gambit> Hulavuta: http://grickit.blogspot.com
20100809 04:44:55< Hulavuta> one sec
20100809 04:45:11< Gambit> Prepare to be aroused.
20100809 04:45:13< shadowmaster> FLEXIBILITY.
20100809 04:45:14< Gambit> It's that sexy.
20100809 04:45:19< Gambit> shadowmaster: Blogger is flexible
20100809 04:45:20< Hulavuta> HOLY CRAp
20100809 04:45:25< Hulavuta> That's pretty sweet
20100809 04:45:32< Gambit> Unlike *SOME OTHER BLOGGING SOFTWARE NAMED WORDPRESS* you can edit bloggers template
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20100809 04:45:36< shadowmaster> Gambit: yeah, but you can't touch the files directly, can you?
20100809 04:45:50< shadowmaster> I can edit all the CSS, HTML, smarty code and PHP code with my system
20100809 04:45:53< Gambit> shadowmaster: It allows exporation to host elsewhere
20100809 04:45:54< Gambit> so yes you can
20100809 04:46:00< Gambit> and you can edit the CSS and xhtml of the template
20100809 04:46:17< shadowmaster> and what's the  software's license?
20100809 04:46:39< Gambit> It uses the Better-Than-Wordpress License 1.03_b
20100809 04:46:47< Gambit> shadowmaster: I don't know.
20100809 04:46:52< shadowmaster> no, seriously
20100809 04:46:59< Gambit> shadowmaster: I don't know.
20100809 04:47:03< shadowmaster> I'm not a wordpress worshipper.
20100809 04:47:12< Gambit> http://www.blogger.com/terms.g
20100809 04:47:19< shadowmaster> I gave up after trying to embed Dorset into it.
20100809 04:47:22< shadowmaster> the software, not the hosting service
20100809 04:47:29< Gambit> http://www.google.com/blogger_dmca.html
20100809 04:47:34< Gambit> http://www.google.com/blogger_dmca.html
20100809 04:47:37< Gambit> shadowmaster: I don't know.
20100809 04:47:56< Hulavuta> Gambit has converted me
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20100809 04:48:11< Gambit> Hulavuta: the difference between Blogger and Wordpress is as follows:
20100809 04:48:17< Gambit> Wordpress gives you more control of pages
20100809 04:48:21< Gambit> static pages
20100809 04:48:28< Gambit> Blogger is adding that feature as we speak
20100809 04:48:34< shadowmaster> Gambit: I can't even find the software's name in the wikipedia article.
20100809 04:48:41< Gambit> If something is wrong with Blogger, you can change it
20100809 04:48:51< Gambit> If something is wrong with Wordpress; Sucks to be you!
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20100809 04:49:02< shadowmaster> Wordpress and Serendipity can use plugins, btw.
20100809 04:49:16< Gambit> shadowmaster: Oh yeah you can edit wordpress if you feel like paying their monthly fee
20100809 04:49:26< shadowmaster> Gambit: :|
20100809 04:49:35< shadowmaster> just host the fucking thing yousrself
20100809 04:49:35< shadowmaster> there's your freedom.
20100809 04:49:36< shadowmaster> happy?
20100809 04:49:42< Blarumyrran> Why do you need to use any blogging software? Your blogs don't look so complicated...
20100809 04:49:56< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: content vs. presentation
20100809 04:50:00< Gambit> Blarumyrran: I have no hosting of mine own.
20100809 04:50:08< Gambit> I could write blogging software for sure.
20100809 04:50:12< Gambit> But where would I put it?
20100809 04:50:16< Blarumyrran> shadowmaster, what do you mean?
20100809 04:50:24< Gambit> And if I'm going to pay a monthly fee
20100809 04:50:27< Gambit> Yes it would be hosting
20100809 04:50:29< Gambit> not to wordpress
20100809 04:50:36< Gambit> A monthly fee for the right to edit your CSS?
20100809 04:50:37< Gambit> WOOOOO
20100809 04:50:50< Gambit> (and that doesn't include the html!)
20100809 04:51:40< Gambit> Plus; it's google!
20100809 04:52:06< Gambit> Hmm this isn't right.
20100809 04:52:10 * Gambit stops trolling.
20100809 04:52:18< Gambit> Hulavuta: But yeah Blogger is much more better.
20100809 04:52:33< Hulavuta> Gambit: You know the song Pinball Wizard?
20100809 04:52:54< Gambit> I don't know
20100809 04:53:03 * Gambit isn't so good with titles
20100809 04:53:09< Gambit> Hulavuta: Yes
20100809 04:53:22< Hulavuta> I'm planning to write a story based off of it, 
20100809 04:53:28< Hulavuta> Except I'm making Tommy not disabled
20100809 04:53:33< Hulavuta> and he's going to be an adult XD
20100809 04:53:48< Hulavuta> And isn't going to be the same at all
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20100809 05:05:16< shadowmaster> Blarumyrran: figure it out by yourself.
20100809 05:05:22< Blarumyrran> :|
20100809 05:08:03< Hulavuta> bye
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20100809 07:51:53< shadowm_kubuntu> exactly why does this thing insist on downloading updates by itself?
20100809 07:52:08< shadowm_kubuntu> I do have a traffic quota, dammit
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20100809 14:18:44< Unnheulu> Eww, Merthyr Tydfil wants to have world heritage status
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20100809 19:05:17< landscape69> hi is have installes wesnoth 1.8.4 and looking for a change log. there such thing somehere?
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20100809 19:05:49< Rhonda> Installed from where? It should be in the docs.
20100809 19:06:31< Rhonda> The sources have it in their root directory, as "changelog"
20100809 19:07:18< Gambit> 1.8.4?
20100809 19:07:49< landscape69> Rhonda: thanks. i was looking for this at: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/tags/?rev=42348&dir_pagestart=50#dirlist , but it not there
20100809 19:08:49< Rhonda> Gambit: What, 1.8.4?
20100809 19:08:57< Soliton> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/tags/1.8.4/?dir_pagestart=100
20100809 19:09:28< landscape69> Gambit: yes version 1.8.4 is already released but only as source http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/
20100809 19:09:44< Rhonda> landscape69: If you look at an old revision, why should it be in there? :)
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20100809 19:41:10< e_s-iOS> Hi.
20100809 19:41:22< e_s-iOS> Got a couple minutes to spare, so.
20100809 19:43:38< hylje> hello
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20100809 23:52:31< PetePorty> wth? New version and I'm not in the credits?
20100809 23:52:35< PetePorty> -.-
20100809 23:53:16< zookeeper> true. we have "bots" already, so i guess we could add "trolls" too.
20100809 23:53:55< PetePorty> -.-
20100809 23:54:00< PetePorty> Come on, man.
20100809 23:54:06< PetePorty> I was actually defending you.
20100809 23:54:43< PetePorty> oh...
20100809 23:54:44< PetePorty> nvm
20100809 23:57:06< Aethaeryn> zookeeper: Can I be placed under bots?
20100809 23:57:16< Aethaeryn> I'm actually a really, really good chatterbot. Turing-test-passing.
20100809 23:57:28< elias> i want to be listed under trolls :)
20100809 23:57:36< Aethaeryn> (So do I, which is why I trolled.)
20100809 23:57:46< Aethaeryn> Haha, hidden motives!
20100809 23:57:46< elias> heh
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