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20100819 00:08:08< elvish_sovereign> shadowmaster: has there been an updated wesnoth-mode in emacs for 1.8?
20100819 00:19:23< fabi> elvish_sovereign: The maintainer of the emacs mode is long lost.
20100819 00:19:35< elvish_sovereign> hm
20100819 00:19:38< fabi> elvish_sovereign: But it is still working fine.
20100819 00:19:47< fabi> What problems do you have?
20100819 00:19:52< elvish_sovereign> okay, now just trying to figure this
20100819 00:20:25< fabi> elvish_sovereign: You are aware that there is a first version of the wesnoth eclipse plugin ready?
20100819 00:20:39< fabi> elvish_sovereign: It may make the emacs mode obsolete in the future.
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20100819 00:53:24< PeteyP> elvish_sovereign, Come play, will ya?
20100819 00:55:10< PeteyP> shadowmaster, You know you want to play.
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20100819 02:39:47< G-Lo> Why playing Starcraft2 while there's Galactic Empires?
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20100819 04:23:47< elvish_sovereign> crimson_penguin: I'm attempting compiling wesnoth from terminal, but I'm getting this error: configure: error: *** Please upgrade your SDL and/or SDL_ttf version
20100819 04:23:55< elvish_sovereign> Any ideas?
20100819 04:24:10< elvish_sovereign> I ran fink update-all
20100819 04:24:18< elvish_sovereign> it said there was nothing to install
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20100819 04:28:09< crimson_penguin> elvish_sovereign: eh, that should work, but I don't build on the command line, so I don't know
20100819 04:28:19< elvish_sovereign> hm.
20100819 04:28:27< elvish_sovereign> It says it requires sdl 1.2.7
20100819 04:28:33< elvish_sovereign> I have sdl 1.2.14
20100819 04:28:41< crimson_penguin> yeah, 1.2.7 is old
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20100819 04:38:34< elvish_sovereign> Espreon: ^
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20100819 04:38:54< elvish_sovereign> Could you look at my convo with crimson_penguin and see what possibly might be wrong?
20100819 04:38:56< elvish_sovereign> thanks
20100819 04:39:25< crimson_penguin> why do you want to compile with the command line?
20100819 04:40:02< Gambit> elvish_sovereign: Are you on mac?
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20100819 04:43:23< elvish_sovereign> yup
20100819 04:43:48< elvish_sovereign> crimson_penguin: because XCode got me quite frustrated
20100819 04:43:58< crimson_penguin> I see
20100819 04:44:04< elvish_sovereign> so I;m just trying the other method, that;s all
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20100819 05:43:26< un214> isars cross is weird
20100819 05:43:40< un214> drakes are very powerful on it unless loyalists oppose them
20100819 05:45:57< elvish_sovereign> un214: FYI isar's cross is one of the most notoriously unbalanced
20100819 05:46:09< elvish_sovereign> don't play it
20100819 05:46:10< un214> I know that
20100819 05:46:31< elvish_sovereign> anyhow
20100819 05:46:37< elvish_sovereign> got to go to sleep now
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20100819 06:25:53< Aethaeryn> un214: Drakes are their worst on Isar's, actually.
20100819 06:26:06< Aethaeryn> Because they usually rely on mobility and having somewhere to retreat
20100819 06:26:16< un214> and to think on Isars is where I mastered them
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20100819 06:28:37< Aethaeryn> Careful with using the word "mastered"
20100819 06:29:14< Aethaeryn> Wesnoth MP is hard to really master, and you can't truly master a faction on just one map.
20100819 06:29:23< Aethaeryn> anyway, sorry, just felt like nitpicking
20100819 06:29:37< YB-Betacrow> Yeah I'd second Aeth there
20100819 06:32:38< Aethaeryn> But, yeah, it is kinda common consensus on strategy games that you don't master a faction/side/nation/civilization/whatever on just one map since different maps can require different tactics.
20100819 06:32:46< Aethaeryn> Those who do are just cheap people going for the ladder points. :-P
20100819 06:34:10< Aethaeryn> But, hey, I'm a philosophy major so I like to nitpick things. There's a reason why I'm so popular that I spend all my nights and weekends on IRC. :-P
20100819 06:34:21< Cookie> *sigh*
20100819 06:39:37< un214> I don't play on ladder.
20100819 06:40:08< Aethaeryn> un214: I wasn't saying that *you* are doing it just to get ladder points, since the ladder is just 1v1 anyway.
20100819 06:40:19< Aethaeryn> I'm just saying that it's a cheap shortcut in strategy games.
20100819 06:40:23< Aethaeryn> Just pick one side and one map and stick with it.
20100819 06:40:54< Aethaeryn> Cheap doesn't make it necessarily bad, either, at least for the person with limited time who wants to do well or w/e
20100819 06:41:03< un214> anyway, on isars there's just enough space to run back and forth over the rough terrain faster than your opponent
20100819 06:41:16< Aethaeryn> Right.
20100819 06:41:28< Aethaeryn> Drakes really rely on zone of control more than other factions.
20100819 06:41:49< Aethaeryn> That's why I find them fun a lot of the time. Just run away and block off any gaps with either tough units or saurians.
20100819 06:42:18< Aethaeryn> If I play drakes on something and you look at my losses list there might be 8 saurian skirms, 2 saurian augurs, and 1 actual drake lost :-P
20100819 06:42:30< un214> it's funny how many orc players try repeatedly to take my water villages with naga when I'm drake
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20100819 06:42:41< un214> I blow the naga out of the villages at night with augur
20100819 06:43:11< Aethaeryn> anyway, Isar's really isn't a very good map for drakes because you can't really play with the mobility and ZoC as much as other maps, and you don't get much gold so you can't get too many units.
20100819 06:43:25< Aethaeryn> If you want diversity, you really need 150g or more.
20100819 06:43:45< un214> on a completely different note, ever play sacrifice survival?
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20100819 06:44:16< Aethaeryn> I used to like tiny maps, briefly. My mappack evolution seems to be from tiny, simple and abstract maps to large, WML-complex, fancy-looking and taking-an-entire-day-to-play maps
20100819 06:44:28< Aethaeryn> un214: It seems to eb a rather new scenario, I've observed it twice
20100819 06:44:49< Aethaeryn> Summer classes have kept me from playing Wesnoth most of the summer since I like really long MP games
20100819 06:44:54< YB-Betacrow> I have, i'm still not sure what kind of strategy to use
20100819 06:44:56< Aethaeryn> e.g. 5+ hours
20100819 06:45:02< un214> what's funny is my tiny map "Little Rumble" can take an hour to play
20100819 06:45:27< un214> I work and play in evenings so games are 2.5 hours max
20100819 06:45:32< Aethaeryn> Yes, bottlenecking on small maps can lead to long games (my "Chambers" map is kinda an example of this)
20100819 06:45:49< Aethaeryn> Now, take that principle and apply it to large maps and you wind up with 5+ hour games.
20100819 06:46:07< un214> "Little Rumble" doesn't really bottleneck
20100819 06:47:12< Aethaeryn> The problem with little maps is that people play them expecting short games.
20100819 06:47:20< un214> lol
20100819 06:47:31< Aethaeryn> When e.g. Hamlets (which is a rather small mainline map, but bigger than the "small" maps) is probably more quick
20100819 06:47:46< Aethaeryn> I've seen tiny maps go back-and-forth for hours depending on the design
20100819 06:47:52< un214> there was a map that was popular that was a hex that was 3 hexes on a side
20100819 06:48:06< un214> "Little Rumble" does exactly that if two of the players get wiped out early
20100819 06:48:35< Aethaeryn> I once made a parody map 
20100819 06:48:49< Aethaeryn> Someone said "you can't make a map entirely out of impassable mountains" or something along those lines, to emphasize another point.
20100819 06:48:56< Aethaeryn> So I made a three player map entirely out of impassable mountains.
20100819 06:49:06< Aethaeryn> The leaders are next to each other and the hex layout allows them to be able to kill each other
20100819 06:49:17< un214> That's what I also did only its void
20100819 06:49:29< un214> the map plays badly now as void is now 100% evasion rather than 50%
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20100819 06:50:25< un214> basically, silver mage wins every time
20100819 06:50:46< Aethaeryn> If you  made a map entirely out of villages, there'd be the same result.
20100819 06:51:39< un214> anybody want a mp map where the sun goes nova on turn 3
20100819 06:52:35< un214> I'll bet I get a lot of people mad at me for that one.
20100819 06:53:58< un214> night
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20100819 06:55:19< Aethaeryn> oh, btw, never tell anyone that something cannot or will not be done... That's asking for it to be made.
20100819 06:55:22< Aethaeryn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Video_Game_Proposal
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20100819 07:12:28< Buttercup> Can anyone help on getting Wesnoth to work in Ubuntu?
20100819 07:13:15< Buttercup> Can't seem to get 1.8.4 compiled. And broke 1.6 to boot. :P
20100819 07:20:03< R4SP> I know 1.8.0 comes already compiled in some package or the other.
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20100819 07:22:59< Buttercup> Yeah, on Lucid. I've got Hardy. 
20100819 07:24:01< YB-Betacrow> Sup dta.
20100819 07:24:22< Buttercup> I had to manually download some stuff because it was out of date in the package manager.
20100819 07:25:31< Buttercup> I'm stuck trying to get this "boost" thing to work...
20100819 07:25:35< R4SP> oh...
20100819 07:25:44< R4SP> using scons?
20100819 07:25:52< Buttercup> Yup.
20100819 07:27:37< R4SP> One of the boost libraries had a bug when used with Scons that caused Scons to not detect it.
20100819 07:27:48< R4SP> Dont know if it's still there, but you might try using Cmake.
20100819 07:28:09< Buttercup> KK. I'll give that a shot.
20100819 07:39:08< Buttercup> CMake Error: Gettext_DIR is not set.  It must be set to the directory containing GettextConfig.cmake in order to use Gettext.
20100819 07:39:26< Buttercup> Also, it says my CMake is out of date.
20100819 07:39:37< shadowmaster> that's not unlikely.
20100819 07:40:03< Cookie> hi shadowmaster:D
20100819 07:40:13< shadowmaster> hi there
20100819 07:40:37< shadowmaster> Buttercup: did you try installing libboost-all-dev?
20100819 07:41:15< Buttercup> It only goes to 1.34 in Hardy. Wesnoth needs 1.35 or higher. So I downloaded it.
20100819 07:41:24< shadowmaster> ohhh :/
20100819 07:42:04< Buttercup> Compiling was easier last time. >.>
20100819 07:42:10< Buttercup> With 1.6...
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20100819 07:44:19< R4SP> It's not so bad if you're in lucid
20100819 07:45:12< Buttercup> If I upgrade to Lucid, what happens, exactly? Do I lose my settings/have to reinstall a bunch of programs?
20100819 07:45:48< shadowmaster> I since Ubuntu is a Debian derivative I guess most of the system will just get upgraded.
20100819 07:46:27< shadowmaster> that is, old packages replaced by new packages, obsolete packages being either removed (if conflicting) or left alone, system and user settings updated as required, etc.
20100819 07:47:10< shadowmaster> I only know about Debian since I've done Stable->Testing switches myself :°
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20100819 07:51:11< Buttercup> Hm. Doesn't sound too bad.
20100819 07:51:32 * Buttercup still wonders if there's a way to force Wesnoth to work in Hardy...
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20100819 07:57:51< shadowmaster> Buttercup: tried asking in the forums?
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20100819 07:58:02< dta2> Is general discussion permitted in this channel?
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20100819 07:58:29< shadowmaster> dta2: general discussion of Wesnoth? yes.
20100819 07:58:59< Cookie> how about: shadowmaster how are you?
20100819 07:59:00< Buttercup> I tired, and got some help, but not enough to fix it.
20100819 07:59:23< shadowmaster> Cookie: I rarely say anything but "fine"
20100819 07:59:34< shadowmaster> even if I can't even get up of my bed
20100819 07:59:49< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Are you dysthmic?
20100819 08:00:22< shadowmaster> why's that question?
20100819 08:00:23< Cookie> shadowmaster: why?
20100819 08:00:46< dta2> shadowm_laptop, I was just wondering if you needed some support from a friend. ;)
20100819 08:01:15< Buttercup> Told me how to install boost instead of just dumping the files in the old directory... But Wesnoth can't seem to find the files, even thought according to the log it seems to be looking in the right place. :P
20100819 08:01:40< shadowmaster> Buttercup: you are seeing the build.log?
20100819 08:01:53< shadowmaster> I mean build/config.log (if using Scons)
20100819 08:02:50< shadowmaster> hm. Reading your thread
20100819 08:03:41< shadowmaster> Buttercup: how about the output of ls /usr/local/lib/libboost*  ?
20100819 08:05:14< Buttercup> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/PUcicDCM
20100819 08:05:43< shadowmaster> you don't have libboost_iostreams there
20100819 08:06:00< Buttercup> Hm.
20100819 08:08:32< Buttercup> That's supposed to come with the boost download, isn't it?
20100819 08:09:05< Buttercup> There's a bunch of stuff in /usr/local/include/boost/iostreams , but I guess that's not what it's looking for?
20100819 08:09:28< shadowmaster> no, those are the source code headers.
20100819 08:09:33< shadowmaster> it's looking for the binary library files in lib
20100819 08:09:58< shadowmaster> so that probably means you didn't get Boost.iostreams compiled for some reason (I have no idea how boost's build system works)
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20100819 08:11:10< Buttercup> It did give some errors when I was compiling, said it didn't do all of them.
20100819 08:11:37< Buttercup> But didn't say which ones.
20100819 08:11:48< shadowmaster> hm.
20100819 08:12:06< shadowmaster> maybe iostreams' dependencies aren't satisfied
20100819 08:12:52< shadowmaster> as far as I can see from the Debian package on testing, it should depend on zlib and its development files, and libbz2 and its development files
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20100819 08:13:42< shadowmaster> and since those libraries aren't likely to change much lately, the versions on your distribution should work if installed.
20100819 08:14:36< Buttercup> I've got zlib1g-dev and zlib1g and libbz2-1.0 installed it says.
20100819 08:14:58< shadowmaster> you need the dev package for libbz2 then
20100819 08:15:04< Buttercup> But not libbz2-dev... could that be what I'm missing?
20100819 08:15:11< shadowmaster> yeah
20100819 08:16:15< shadowmaster> after installing that you'll need to rebuild boost and reinstall it
20100819 08:16:15< Buttercup> Got it. So... compile boost again? And do I need to uninstall it first?
20100819 08:16:23< shadowmaster> uninstalling it shouldn't be required
20100819 08:16:31< Buttercup> KK.
20100819 08:17:49< Cookie> shadowmaster: why arent you getting out of your bed Oo 
20100819 08:18:30< shadowmaster> Cookie: I am not getting out of my bed because it's 2:18 am and it's cold around here
20100819 08:18:45< shadowmaster> but that was a hypothetical case anyway.
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20100819 08:19:54< Cookie> oh, for a second i thought you had your legs cut off >.>
20100819 08:20:29 * shadowmaster . O o
20100819 08:21:07< shadowmaster> in such case I'd most likely be at a hospital unable to talk in here anyway
20100819 08:21:15< shadowmaster> at least for a while.
20100819 08:21:20< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Handicapped?
20100819 08:21:22< Buttercup> This took a while last time. Technically it did say which things failed, but the screen went by so fast that there was no way to see what they were.
20100819 08:21:28< shadowmaster> dta2: no
20100819 08:21:37< Cookie> was thinking more like a old person from ww2 >.>
20100819 08:21:47< shadowmaster> I'm not old D:
20100819 08:21:52< Cookie> but with both legs off :P
20100819 08:21:53< dta2> shadowm_laptop, I would assume you are ~18?
20100819 08:22:00< Cookie> i think his 23?
20100819 08:22:12< Cookie> why do you always call him laptop dta D:
20100819 08:22:13< shadowmaster> dta2: kind of.
20100819 08:22:17< dta2> Cookie, you don't want to offend anyone, so you have to low ball it.
20100819 08:22:19< YB-Betacrow> What's your bmi?
20100819 08:22:27< Cookie> whats low ball it?
20100819 08:22:30 * Cookie hides
20100819 08:22:42< dta2> well 'sh + tab' returns that, so I'm too lazy.
20100819 08:22:59< shadowmaster> Buttercup: when in doubt, use a terminal emulator that can provide an infinite scrollback  plus a search option
20100819 08:23:30< shadowmaster> either that or   command | tee logfile.log
20100819 08:23:33< dta2> Cookie, Well, when someone is older, when guessing their age, you usually want to say lower than what you actually think.
20100819 08:24:06< shadowmaster> I suppose that I do soun like a cranky elderly man.
20100819 08:24:09< shadowmaster> sound.
20100819 08:24:13 * Cookie hides behind domokun
20100819 08:24:17< dta2> shadowm_laptop, So, you are ~16?
20100819 08:24:28< dta2> shadowm_laptop, It's ok if you don't want to say.
20100819 08:24:45< Cookie> not really shadowmaster but you seem like you know alot about computers :L
20100819 08:24:48< dta2> shadowm_laptop, I won't hold it against you. :) I'm not ageist.
20100819 08:25:05< dta2> Cookie, He is a Wesnoth dev, so yea.
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20100819 08:25:19< Cookie> i think i know that 
20100819 08:25:39< dta2> So, how is everyone tonight?
20100819 08:25:46-!- sacho [~sacho@95-42-124-149.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20100819 08:26:04< shadowmaster> dta2: just 20.
20100819 08:26:19< dta2> shadowm_laptop, ASL?
20100819 08:26:22< dta2> -a
20100819 08:26:22< YB-Betacrow> I'm looking for a new user campaign to play. I already beat IFTU and Bad Moon. Any suggestions?
20100819 08:26:42< shadowmaster> you can pretty much find all the details of me around there online.
20100819 08:26:58< Buttercup> Oo, I see iostreams this time... Let's see if ol' Wessy will compile now...
20100819 08:26:59< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Do you have a Facebook?
20100819 08:27:03< shadowmaster> dta2: no
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20100819 08:27:12< dta2> shadowm_laptop, You are male, correct?
20100819 08:27:31< shadowmaster> you are creeping me out <.<
20100819 08:27:36< dta2> shadowm_laptop, I have been in the market for a computer nerd. :)
20100819 08:28:01< dta2> shadowm_laptop, It's ok, I was like you when I was younger. Never got into the social scene.
20100819 08:28:01< Buttercup> Got a lot farther that time.
20100819 08:28:09< Buttercup> Checking for Ogg Vorbis support in SDL... no
20100819 08:28:11< Cookie> shadowmaster you should run when you can ;)
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20100819 08:29:05 * Buttercup has played ogg files before... so what's missing? >.>
20100819 08:29:21< dta2> Buttercup, that's a cute name. Add me if you ever get on 1.8. :)
20100819 08:29:36< shadowmaster> dta2: no, it's just that freenode isn't exactly known for people asking ASL ::p
20100819 08:29:39< Buttercup> Hehe, thanks. :)
20100819 08:29:44< shadowmaster> since it's more of a work network than a social network
20100819 08:29:56< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Well, there can be romance in the workplace.
20100819 08:30:21< shadowmaster> Buttercup: again, log.
20100819 08:30:28< Coookie> why do i sense a sort of flirting mood between them?
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20100819 08:30:42< Rhonda> shadowmaster: Thanks for the hint, yes - the ant was rather a bit orange, but I managed. Those stupid plants were annoying while bringing that ant along though.
20100819 08:30:53< shadowmaster> I sense a quiet, not flirting
20100819 08:31:02< dta2> shadowm_laptop, A what?
20100819 08:31:09< CookieBite> xD i see :)
20100819 08:31:15< shadowmaster> silence-ban
20100819 08:31:20< dta2> o.o
20100819 08:31:23< Buttercup> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/T1yw4u30
20100819 08:31:25< CookieBite> that would be mute?
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20100819 08:31:30< shadowmaster> yeah
20100819 08:31:32< dta2> shadowm_laptop, I'm sorry if I am making your uncomfortable.
20100819 08:31:39< CookieBite> you*
20100819 08:31:51< dta2> you*
20100819 08:31:56< shadowmaster> Rhonda: it's just matter of jumping around carefully. Try tofind your inner...jumping..self
20100819 08:32:16< shadowmaster> and avoiding water pools
20100819 08:32:47< Rhonda> I do, and found that out, too. Like such type of games. :)
20100819 08:33:16< shadowmaster> Buttercup: is that really the whole log?
20100819 08:33:59< Buttercup> Yup. All 347 lines of it. (It was with Scons again).
20100819 08:34:21< shadowmaster> I'm not sure what's going on there. It'd tseem the test program compiled successfully, which would suggest that SDL_mixer doesn't have ogg vorbis support there...which would be ridiculous.
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20100819 08:35:26 * CookieBite slaps CookieBite around a bit with a large trout
20100819 08:35:30< CookieBite> lol
20100819 08:35:39< CookieBite> i never knew such existed XD
20100819 08:35:42 * YB-Betacrow slaps CookieBite with a big red brick
20100819 08:35:46< CookieBite> =="
20100819 08:35:50 * CookieBite slaps shadowmaster around a bit with a large trout
20100819 08:35:52< dta2> Children, please.
20100819 08:35:58 * YB-Betacrow slaps CookieBite with a rainbow trout
20100819 08:36:04< YB-Betacrow> My trout wins.
20100819 08:36:07< dta2> TaylorSwift, How do you do?
20100819 08:36:10< shadowmaster> ahem.
20100819 08:36:17< CookieBite> its a mutated trout
20100819 08:36:20< shadowmaster> no trout-slapping around here.
20100819 08:36:25< TaylorSwift> good thanks
20100819 08:36:35< YB-Betacrow> Not all mutations are bad, but I digress.
20100819 08:36:41< dta2> shadowm_laptop, If I am muted, would someone tell him that I'd like to speak to him.
20100819 08:36:52< shadowmaster> to who and who?
20100819 08:36:55< CookieBite> huh
20100819 08:36:58< shadowmaster> I'm not going to mute you.
20100819 08:37:04< CookieBite> :L 
20100819 08:37:09< shadowmaster> as long as you behave, of course ;)
20100819 08:37:14< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Oh, I thought you were uncomfortable with my advances, and muted me D:
20100819 08:37:23< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Oh, I'll behave alright. ^.^
20100819 08:37:23< shadowmaster> no
20100819 08:37:30 * CookieBite throws a pillow at shadowmaster ^^
20100819 08:37:37< CookieBite> hmmm it works :D
20100819 08:37:53< shadowmaster> CookieBite: what, I'm giving tech support around here.
20100819 08:37:56< Buttercup> Hm. It says build/sconf_temp/conftest_19: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_iostreams.so.1.44.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
20100819 08:37:57< shadowmaster> I'm not going to sleep rigt now.
20100819 08:38:05< shadowmaster> Buttercup: argh.
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20100819 08:38:25< Buttercup> But I see the file right in /usr/local/lib.
20100819 08:38:31< shadowmaster> Buttercup: what does ls -l say?
20100819 08:38:40< shadowmaster> ls -l /usr/local/lib/libboost*
20100819 08:38:43< CookieBite> :( you read my mind, but make sure you do sleep soon its now good to be sleep deprived :S
20100819 08:39:09< shadowmaster> CookieBite: don't worry, I have spent five days  skipping sleep before.
20100819 08:39:14< dta2> CookieBite, I agree. He should accompany us throughout the night.
20100819 08:39:16< shadowmaster> for a good cause.
20100819 08:39:24< dta2> shadowm_laptop, For what?
20100819 08:39:49< shadowmaster> for a campaign.
20100819 08:39:50< Buttercup> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/4NSnQdfX
20100819 08:40:14< shadowmaster> to fulfill my self-imposed deadline for christmas 08
20100819 08:40:22< dta2> shadowm_laptop, How heroic!
20100819 08:40:22< CookieBite> oh yeah i heard of that xD but i didnt know you didnt go sleep for it
20100819 08:40:51< shadowmaster> Buttercup: :(
20100819 08:40:52< YB-Betacrow> What campaign?
20100819 08:40:55< CookieBite> still it isnt good to be sleep deprived, 
20100819 08:40:57< YB-Betacrow> I'm looking for a new one
20100819 08:41:16< shadowmaster> YB-Betacrow: you already tried it, IftU
20100819 08:41:23< YB-Betacrow> oh, yeah.
20100819 08:41:27< YB-Betacrow> I liked it alot.
20100819 08:41:29< CookieBite> whats IFTU??
20100819 08:41:35< YB-Betacrow> Invasion from the Unknown
20100819 08:42:13< CookieBite> oh
20100819 08:42:17< R4SP> Shadow made IftU?
20100819 08:42:22< R4SP> Dood...
20100819 08:42:27< CookieBite> i thought it looked like stfu >.>
20100819 08:42:35< dta2> That's one way to put it.
20100819 08:42:37< CookieBite> but mistyped alot
20100819 08:42:43< shadowmaster> Buttercup: I give up :(
20100819 08:42:52< shadowmaster> the file looks fine.
20100819 08:42:55< YB-Betacrow> Well, considering the I and the S are on different parts of the keyboard, I doubt it cookie
20100819 08:43:01 * CookieBite throws a pillow to shadowmaster now?
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20100819 08:43:19< dta2> Oh, hello there FireFly.
20100819 08:43:33< dta2> Care to participate, we are having a pillow fight?
20100819 08:43:56< CookieBite> not with you dta 
20100819 08:43:58< CookieBite> >.>
20100819 08:44:07< dta2> Cookie, Well, I see how it is. :P
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20100819 08:44:34< Buttercup> So close but no cigar.
20100819 08:44:44< CookieBite> :(
20100819 08:46:02< dta2> Buttercup, Here's my 10 cents, use Windoze.
20100819 08:46:09< Buttercup> XD
20100819 08:46:51< shadowmaster> one needs to be brave to compile boost on any platform without a distributor's recipe.
20100819 08:46:55< shadowmaster> same goes for GNU libc
20100819 08:47:11< R4SP> Boost is a mess even when you're just installing it.
20100819 08:47:22< dta2> Life is messy, what can you do?
20100819 08:47:30< shadowmaster> I now understand why it was so difficult to restore Windows support around 1.3.10
20100819 08:51:53< shadowmaster> I need to sleep. I'm already mistaking the forum post editor's submit button with preview.
20100819 08:52:01< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Good night.
20100819 08:52:08< CookieBite> ahahsaha cute , goodnightt
20100819 08:52:11< Buttercup> Nighty night, shadow.
20100819 08:52:15< shadowmaster> lest I mistake the quote button with the delete thread option
20100819 08:52:31< CookieBite> :S how would you explain that 
20100819 08:52:40< CookieBite> oh sorry your threads gone because im too sleepy?
20100819 08:52:40< dta2> Crack kills.
20100819 08:53:01< CookieBite> ^^ well laters shadowmaster :D
20100819 08:53:10< shadowmaster> I might be able to oreocver it anyway
20100819 08:53:25< shadowmaster> so night
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20100819 08:53:55< YB-Betacrow> His name is ignacio?
20100819 08:54:04< dta2> He was a good comrade. Yet another succumbs to sleep.
20100819 08:54:38< dta2> Does anyone play any games, other than Wesnoth?
20100819 08:54:54< YB-Betacrow> Solitaire
20100819 08:55:05< dta2> YB-Betacrow, Doesn't count.
20100819 08:55:14< ancestral> Been playing Oblivion
20100819 08:55:26 * FireFly slaps dta2 around a bit with a large pillow
20100819 08:55:30< ancestral> Got me re-inspired to play DAO again
20100819 08:55:33< dta2> ancestral, Yea, that's a good one. But, it's best heavily modded.
20100819 08:55:38< dta2> DAO?
20100819 08:55:44< dta2> Also, FireFly ASL?
20100819 08:55:47< YB-Betacrow> Dragon Age, that games pretty good
20100819 08:55:57< ancestral> ^
20100819 08:56:04< FireFly> dta2, why do you care? ;o
20100819 08:56:14< FireFly> Anyway, male, sweden
20100819 08:56:17< dta2> FireFly, I need to mingle.
20100819 08:56:27< ancestral> American Sign Language
20100819 08:56:30< CookieBite> this isnt a speed dating site
20100819 08:56:31< CookieBite> =="
20100819 08:56:32< dta2> FireFly, I can rp as a girl, it's np. ^.^
20100819 08:56:39< FireFly> I think I'll pass
20100819 08:56:40< YB-Betacrow> xD
20100819 08:56:41< dta2> XD
20100819 08:56:59< dta2> Anyways, ancestral have you finished the main quest line in Oblivion?
20100819 08:57:20< ancestral> No, I've only put in a couple dozen hours
20100819 08:57:45< ancestral> Basically started from 0 and been exploring and doing side quests and such
20100819 08:57:47< dta2> Yea. When I played, I'd put in a TON, but always remade my character, found out later I messed up the build.
20100819 08:57:57< dta2> ancestral, You need to check out the mod community, it's really great.
20100819 08:57:58< ancestral> Got to the point of joining The Blade
20100819 08:57:59< ancestral> S
20100819 08:58:11< ancestral> dta2: Good to know
20100819 08:58:25< dta2> ancestral, But, stay away from the porn mods, they will make it so you can't look at the game again...
20100819 08:58:27< ancestral> I have the GotY edition
20100819 08:58:38< ancestral> Haha
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20100819 08:58:50< CookieBite> hey ancestral, :)
20100819 08:58:54< dta2> ancestral, Yes, I was a content Oblivion played unitl I came across those.
20100819 08:59:20< ancestral> Hi CookieBite 
20100819 08:59:42< ancestral> Who's not Cookie?
20100819 08:59:53< dta2> Cookie, is CookieBite's alter ego.
20100819 08:59:56< CookieBite> i dunno but the other cookie is me too
20100819 09:00:13< ancestral> Ah kay
20100819 09:00:13< dta2> Also, there is trouble on the MP server. ^>^
20100819 09:00:25< ancestral> How so?
20100819 09:00:32< CookieBite> how have you been ancestral? i havent seen you on the server for a long time
20100819 09:00:49< ancestral> RLY?
20100819 09:00:52< ancestral> IRC or Wesnoth?
20100819 09:00:57< CookieBite> wesnoth :P
20100819 09:01:03< ancestral> Sure
20100819 09:01:07< CookieBite> you're always on irc 
20100819 09:01:24< ancestral> That's what I was about to say
20100819 09:01:27< ancestral> So
20100819 09:01:45< ancestral> I need to create a map/add-on
20100819 09:01:56< ancestral> To take advantage of my era
20100819 09:02:03< CookieBite> ah i see xD
20100819 09:02:44 * CookieBite goes afkk ^^
20100819 09:02:45< YB-Betacrow> Anyone got any tips for a burning ear?
20100819 09:02:59< Buttercup> Pour water on it.
20100819 09:03:06< dta2> Salt water*
20100819 09:03:10< ancestral> Could be skin irritation
20100819 09:03:16< ancestral> Don't touch it
20100819 09:03:17< CookieBite> milk if its from chilli
20100819 09:03:21< CookieBite> :L
20100819 09:03:22< Buttercup> Oh, I thought you meant on fire.
20100819 09:03:27< dta2> What?
20100819 09:03:27< dta2> XD
20100819 09:03:31< ancestral> Literally? Haha
20100819 09:03:35< CookieBite> :L
20100819 09:03:41< YB-Betacrow> No, it's not on fire, lol
20100819 09:03:44< YB-Betacrow> it's just red
20100819 09:03:54< CookieBite> then stop scatching it?
20100819 09:04:00< CookieBite> scratching*
20100819 09:04:09< YB-Betacrow> I don't scratch my ear. It just happened out of nowhere
20100819 09:04:12< ancestral> YB-Betacrow: Go see a doctor if it is still uncomfortable tomorrow
20100819 09:04:38< Cookie> okay nap timee :D
20100819 09:04:46< dta2> Gn.
20100819 09:05:06< ancestral> Two weeks
20100819 09:05:12< ancestral> I'll jaw
20100819 09:05:14< ancestral> Have
20100819 09:05:26< dta2> ancestral, What?
20100819 09:05:31< ancestral> 40Mbit Internet
20100819 09:05:38< ancestral> (for 6 months)
20100819 09:05:49< dta2> Niiice.
20100819 09:06:01< ancestral> 40 megabits / sec is
20100819 09:06:14< dta2> Yea.
20100819 09:06:23< ancestral> That's
20100819 09:06:24< dta2> I'm like 8Mb.
20100819 09:06:34< ancestral> 4 MB/s
20100819 09:06:40< ancestral> Insane
20100819 09:06:50< dta2> 5 MB. XD
20100819 09:06:54< dta2> But, yea, that's hot.
20100819 09:07:28< dta2> ancestral, Does it cost a lot?
20100819 09:07:30< ancestral> Course I'll have wifi
20100819 09:07:44< dta2> ancestral, You can always secure it.
20100819 09:07:46< ancestral> $30/mo. For 6 months
20100819 09:07:50< ancestral> After 6
20100819 09:08:06< ancestral> It would be $80/mo.!
20100819 09:08:10< dta2> D:
20100819 09:08:16< dta2> It's a trap!
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20100819 09:08:36< dta2> But, what are you going to do with all that bandwidth? </fbi>
20100819 09:08:39< ancestral> After 6 I'll drop it
20100819 09:08:42< ancestral> Down to like 7
20100819 09:08:55< ancestral> Play games
20100819 09:08:58< ancestral> Download stuff
20100819 09:09:00< ancestral> Surf web
20100819 09:09:07< dta2> XD
20100819 09:09:28< ancestral> Any speed for 6 months is the same, so
20100819 09:09:29< ancestral> Yeah
20100819 09:09:29< dta2> Well, word on the street is, they call it the 'series of tubes'.
20100819 09:09:50< ancestral> The word on the dead guy, you mean
20100819 09:09:54< ancestral> That guy died
20100819 09:10:04< dta2> ancestral, Oh no! Not Ted!
20100819 09:10:10< ancestral> The felon
20100819 09:10:11< ancestral> Yes
20100819 09:10:28< YB-Betacrow> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Stevens
20100819 09:10:30 * dta2 Sheds a lone tear
20100819 09:10:34< YB-Betacrow> Wow, he just died a week ago
20100819 09:10:38< ancestral> Yep
20100819 09:10:41< dta2> Oh, wow.
20100819 09:10:45< ancestral> Plane crash
20100819 09:10:49< dta2> XD
20100819 09:10:49< ancestral> Bunch of people
20100819 09:10:51< dta2> Oh, that sucks.
20100819 09:10:55< ancestral> Sad for many of ten
20100819 09:10:58< ancestral> Them
20100819 09:11:12< ancestral> The guy and his daughter
20100819 09:11:14< ancestral> Anyway
20100819 09:11:18< dta2> Did anyone make out 72 virgins in that deal?
20100819 09:11:35< ancestral> Huh?
20100819 09:11:51< dta2> XD
20100819 09:11:58< ancestral> 69KB/sec
20100819 09:12:13< ancestral> Not bad for city municipal wireless
20100819 09:12:31< ancestral> Paid $20 for one month
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20100819 09:13:21< ancestral> dta2: Ever play Mount & Blade?
20100819 09:13:26< dta2> ancestral, Nope.
20100819 09:13:34< dta2> ancestral, I'm on Linux, so I don't play many games.
20100819 09:13:36< ancestral> It's fun
20100819 09:14:04< ancestral> People have had success playing it with WINE, I think…
20100819 09:14:09< dta2> Yea.
20100819 09:14:43< ancestral> http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=99405.0
20100819 09:14:54< ancestral> Fully playable demo IIRC to level 7
20100819 09:15:08< dta2> Well, I'll be afk for awhile, but I'd like to give a shout-out to Noy, he's my hero.
20100819 09:15:36< ancestral> What did he do?
20100819 09:16:11< dta2> ancestral, Saved the city and stuff, usual super hero stuff.
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20100819 09:16:45< ancestral> Cape didn't get caught in anything?
20100819 09:16:52< dta2> XD
20100819 09:17:03< dta2> He's too hardcore for a cape.
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20100819 09:17:17< Buttercup> Full body suit?
20100819 09:17:29< dta2> Yea, I think he'd look good in spandex.
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20100819 09:18:12< dta2> But, he isn't around now, I assume. *crys* So, if anyone sees him, tell him I said hello, and want to discuss our future together. (I plan to propose to him).
20100819 09:18:22< YB-Betacrow> xD
20100819 09:18:32< ancestral> Looks like I'll have to play DAO over from the start
20100819 09:18:50< ancestral> Though I hadn't gotten far
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20100819 09:24:00< Buttercup> Nighty night fellas and fellarinas.
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20100819 09:28:08< Ivanovic> moin
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20100819 10:58:32-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Wesnoth User Channel | wesnoth.org | http://addons.wesnoth.org | latest stable version: 1.8.4 | public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20100819 10:58:32[Users #wesnoth]
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20100819 11:31:59< R4SP> IT KEEPS HAPPENING BRO
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20100819 11:34:09< YB-Betacrow> Shit's crazy man
20100819 11:34:25< Unnheulu> I thought higher of this community
20100819 11:34:39< Unnheulu> Apparently I was wrong
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20100819 11:53:04< Unnheulu> (Tauron?) Likes making his campaigns hard -.-
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20100819 12:40:05< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader, no tc? :P 
20100819 12:40:11< Unnheulu> Or do monsters not need it
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20100819 12:40:14< thespaceinvader> yes tc
20100819 12:40:17< thespaceinvader> check the eyes
20100819 12:40:37< thespaceinvader> but no, generally monsters don't need it
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20100819 12:40:48< thespaceinvader> i just took the opporunity of glowing red eyes to stick some in
20100819 12:41:05< icelus> what was the outcome of the licensing meeting?
20100819 12:41:20< icelus> are there logs or a summary or whatever with decisions
20100819 12:41:56< Unnheulu> The eyes look red, not magenta...
20100819 12:42:26< Unnheulu> But, probably not too important I guess
20100819 12:44:05< thespaceinvader> well trust me, they are magenta ;)
20100819 12:44:16< thespaceinvader> the small one's shadow ain't quite right
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20100819 12:44:31< Unnheulu> Does it really make sense for them to have eyes?
20100819 12:44:38< Unnheulu> Meh, your the artist, your choice
20100819 12:45:01< Unnheulu> Oh yeah, must be the screen, looks magenta now
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20100819 13:13:45< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu: probably not, but for two things, without them they'd be a bit boring, and the handwave that the eyes are what makes them alive
20100819 13:16:49< Unnheulu> ^^
20100819 13:16:52< Unnheulu> Ok :)
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20100819 13:19:55< Unnheulu> Uh, the first one isn't the death frame?
20100819 13:19:58< Unnheulu> :/
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20100819 13:41:28< thespaceinvader> Unnheulu: the first what?
20100819 13:42:31< Unnheulu> Image
20100819 13:42:33< Unnheulu> Smaller one
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20100819 13:54:52< thespaceinvader> wut
20100819 13:54:54< thespaceinvader> no
20100819 13:55:06< thespaceinvader> it's a replacement for the mudcrawler
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20100819 13:55:53< Unnheulu> I guessed :)
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20100819 14:00:18< Latsni1> hi, could someone start the map "dark forecast" with the latest 1.8.4 release of wesnoth?
20100819 14:00:54< zookeeper> why?
20100819 14:01:39< Latsni1> zookeeper: everytime i want to start this map the game crashs
20100819 14:01:45< zookeeper> ok, i'll try
20100819 14:03:51< zookeeper> works for me as a local game
20100819 14:04:21< Latsni1> zookeeper: okay thanks then i try to rebuild it and run it again
20100819 14:04:26< zookeeper> you don't happen to use a really low resolution?
20100819 14:05:06< Latsni1> the video mode is 1024x768x32
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20100819 14:07:06< zookeeper> ok, was just a thought
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20100819 14:08:06< zookeeper> Latsni1, oh, wait... http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31114
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20100819 14:08:36< zookeeper> using the german translation?
20100819 14:08:46< Latsni1> zookeeper: yes
20100819 14:09:30< Rhonda> I would consider that a serious bug in wesnoth.
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20100819 14:09:41< zookeeper> sure it is
20100819 14:09:48< Unnheulu> Heya Zarel
20100819 14:09:53< Rhonda> Yes, it was repeated multiple times that random wml can crash the client, but that doesn't make it any more acceptable.  :/
20100819 14:11:22< Zarel> ello
20100819 14:11:33< zookeeper> you can either not use the german translation when playing that or simply remove the objectives from the scenario code, which i can tell you how to do...
20100819 14:11:37< Latsni1> zookeeper: thanks with english language the error doesn't occur 
20100819 14:12:16< Latsni1> zookeeper: what objectives?
20100819 14:12:39< zookeeper> Latsni1, the objectives dialog which is causing the crash
20100819 14:13:43< zookeeper> if you just want to play it locally, then you can simply remove the [objectives] tag from data/multiplayer/scenarios/2p_Dark_Forecast.cfg line 1048-1419, save, restart wesnoth, and play
20100819 14:17:03< Latsni1> zookeeper: thanks
20100819 14:17:32< Latsni1> zookeeper: will that be corrected in the next release version of wesnoth?
20100819 14:17:56< zookeeper> hopefully
20100819 14:25:21< Unnheulu> thespaceinvader, that looks much better :)
20100819 14:25:27< thespaceinvader> thanks
20100819 14:25:31< Unnheulu> The one eye confuses me, but meh :P
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20100819 14:47:30< Altreus> Is there or will there be the option to allow undo in multiplayer games?
20100819 14:47:41< Altreus> I moved the wrong unit due to being stupid and then learned there wasn't one
20100819 14:48:01< sevis> Altreus: It's not the fact it's a multiplayer game, it's because you've cleared fog of war/shroud.
20100819 14:48:26< Altreus> sevis: Ah, so it was because I'd learned stuff
20100819 14:48:56< Altreus> That's a shame! It was a critical fumble as well
20100819 14:49:20< Altreus> It'd be nice to say "I meant to put this piece there instead"! Then you don't learn anything new
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20100819 15:03:41< zookeeper> Altreus, that's what the "delay shroud updates" option is for
20100819 15:03:49< zookeeper> toggle that on and you can move units around without invalidating your undo
20100819 15:04:23< Altreus> zookeeper: oh!
20100819 15:04:29< Altreus> zookeeper: Awesome, thanks for the tip
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20100819 15:08:27< Naeddyr> huh
20100819 15:08:32< Naeddyr> that was relatively painless
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20100819 15:09:00 * Naeddyr is compiling the trunk version at the moment.
20100819 15:09:23< Naeddyr> i've never compiled anything before
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20100819 15:09:59< Naeddyr> thank goodness for distro repositories :D
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20100819 15:12:43< Naeddyr> how long does this take
20100819 15:12:51< Naeddyr> are we speaking one, two hours, or more?
20100819 15:13:02< Naeddyr> because i have no idea :D
20100819 15:13:05< Naeddyr> every day is an adventure
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20100819 15:16:57< elias> it depends on your CPU
20100819 15:17:23< elias> with 4 cores it shouldn't take more than 15 minutes
20100819 15:19:31< Naeddyr> well, i guess irc timestamps will tell
20100819 15:24:28< Naeddyr> ok now it's done
20100819 15:25:49< Naeddyr> it works!
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20100819 15:35:05< Naeddyr> man
20100819 15:35:57< Naeddyr> when the focus is on the map, it gets a hit in the fpses on my Ubuntu.
20100819 15:36:07< Naeddyr> Suddenly, all those running animations start to make sense!
20100819 15:36:33< Naeddyr> on the windows machines i have used for Wesnoth, units move too fast for you to make out running animations :p
20100819 15:37:34< Naeddyr> Ubuntu system*
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20100819 16:44:30< Hulavuta> Hi
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20100819 19:53:44< Aethaeryn> rofl, just made an observation here.
20100819 19:55:45< Aethaeryn> All those anti-video-game people who make a (weak) link between video games and violence don't understand that correlation doesn't mean causation (I can cite xkcd here). It's just as conceivable that violent people are just drawn to violent video games.
20100819 19:56:04< Aethaeryn> And that actually makes the apparent intuitive solution the *opposite*.
20100819 19:56:30< Aethaeryn> If violent people are drawn to violent video games then they're better off killing virtual people in GTA than RL people in RL. 
20100819 19:56:54< Aethaeryn> Therefore, assuming their correlation was even true (which it's not, too statistically insignificant), the solution could just as easily be to make *more* violent video games.
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20100819 19:58:45< Aethaeryn> Besides, so many people these days are gamers, that you could find a similar proportion of *everyone* from pastors and priests to gang members and serial killers playing video games.
20100819 20:00:52< zookeeper> really.
20100819 20:01:01< Unnheulu> Aethaeryn, nice citation :)
20100819 20:01:41< Unnheulu> zookeeper, AOI is as easy on hard as it is on easy
20100819 20:01:51< Unnheulu> You have the same turn limit to it seems :/
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20100819 20:03:33< thespaceinvader> wesbot seen kitty_
20100819 20:03:33< wesbot> thespaceinvader: The person with the nick kitty_ 1d 21h ago they were seen quitting on the channel #wesnoth-dev with the message: Ping timeout: 265 seconds
20100819 20:06:19< zookeeper> Unnheulu, what?
20100819 20:06:59< zookeeper> right
20100819 20:07:13< zookeeper> that's pretty weird indeed
20100819 20:08:57< Unnheulu> The only difference I see is in gold, and tbh that was never an issue (one scenario was winnable in 4 turns)
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20100819 21:01:57< thespaceinvader> so Unnheulu what's the countdown in *your* sig for?
20100819 21:02:07< Unnheulu> It was for the era I was making
20100819 21:02:19< Unnheulu> But like I said, I'm busy upgrading xmoto's forums for phpBB2 to 3
20100819 21:02:34< Unnheulu> And that includes rebuilding the theme -.-
20100819 21:03:10< thespaceinvader> ah
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20100819 21:17:38< Hulavuta> Hi
20100819 21:17:53< e_s-iOS> Hi
20100819 21:17:59< Unnheulu> Hiya
20100819 21:18:18< Hulavuta> e_s-iOS: have you checked the fossil thread recently?
20100819 21:18:38< e_s-iOS> Not really, but it showed up on my undead threads list
20100819 21:18:47< Hulavuta> A what thread?
20100819 21:18:52< e_s-iOS> Sorry
20100819 21:18:57< e_s-iOS> Unread
20100819 21:19:00< Hulavuta> Oh
20100819 21:19:01< Hulavuta> Lol
20100819 21:19:03< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100819 21:19:09< Hulavuta> I thought you meant it was necroed or something
20100819 21:19:14< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100819 21:19:28< Hulavuta> I'm thinking of working on it again
20100819 21:19:30< e_s-iOS> I'm tempted to major necro a thread
20100819 21:19:33< e_s-iOS> Cool
20100819 21:19:38< Hulavuta> Lololol
20100819 21:20:08< Unnheulu> e_s-iOS, I hope you don't
20100819 21:20:13< Unnheulu> That would be majorly hypocritical
20100819 21:20:19< e_s-iOS> I know
20100819 21:20:24< Hulavuta> Well it depends because it's for fun,
20100819 21:20:28< e_s-iOS> I asked shadow master for permission
20100819 21:20:29< Hulavuta> But still a bit, I guess
20100819 21:20:39< e_s-iOS> shadowmaster*
20100819 21:20:52< e_s-iOS> Hasn't respond yet
20100819 21:20:54< Hulavuta> You're allowed to Necro if the comment is constructional
20100819 21:21:04< e_s-iOS> I even told him to move it to OT
20100819 21:21:05 * Hulavuta puts 30$ on "No"
20100819 21:21:09< e_s-iOS> It's this thread
20100819 21:21:13< e_s-iOS> http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23875
20100819 21:21:17< Hulavuta> Uhhhh
20100819 21:21:21< Hulavuta> What's the thread?
20100819 21:21:24< Hulavuta> I can't see it
20100819 21:21:33< e_s-iOS> Funny things you did as a beginner
20100819 21:21:39< Hulavuta> Me?
20100819 21:21:41< e_s-iOS> Died around the end of 2009
20100819 21:21:48< e_s-iOS> No the thread
20100819 21:21:51< Hulavuta> Oh
20100819 21:21:53< Hulavuta> OOOHHH
20100819 21:21:58< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100819 21:22:02< Hulavuta> I thought you meant funny things "I" did as a beginner
20100819 21:22:11< e_s-iOS> :D
20100819 21:22:14< Unnheulu> s/end/start/
20100819 21:22:24< e_s-iOS> Right
20100819 21:22:32< Hulavuta> I remember I only read half of people's replies and had horrible grammar and spelling
20100819 21:22:33< e_s-iOS> Didn't pay that much attention
20100819 21:22:55< Hulavuta> Basically,
20100819 21:23:04< Hulavuta> But I was like, 11-12
20100819 21:23:35< e_s-iOS> There's some cool stuff in there
20100819 21:23:47< Hulavuta> "WML workshop? What's that?"
20100819 21:23:53< Hulavuta> No wait,
20100819 21:23:59< Hulavuta> "WML workshop? Who's that?"
20100819 21:24:07< e_s-iOS> Lol
20100819 21:25:32< Hulavuta> "Zookeeper"
20100819 21:26:14< Hulavuta> "oh,"
20100819 21:26:45< Hulavuta> e_s-iOS: I'd also bet that most of them were people thinking that they could make a campaign without WML 
20100819 21:26:59< e_s-iOS> Hm?
20100819 21:27:38< Hulavuta> Like people that didn't know about WML
20100819 21:27:45< e_s-iOS> Ah.
20100819 21:27:50< Hulavuta> and told people to make a campaign editor, because they didn't want to try it
20100819 21:27:58< Hulavuta> And ignored all comments
20100819 21:27:59< Unnheulu> Hulavuta, I failed to make it possible this summer :(
20100819 21:28:02< Hulavuta> that it was easy
20100819 21:28:13< Unnheulu> Once I've upgraded xmoto's forum software, and written an lvl2svg for them I'll do it
20100819 21:28:14< Hulavuta> Unnheulu: ; (
20100819 21:28:21< Hulavuta> Damn
20100819 21:28:26< Hulavuta> It takes me longer to type an emoticom
20100819 21:28:29< Hulavuta> *emoticon
20100819 21:28:34< Hulavuta> than the word emoticon
20100819 21:29:42< Unnheulu> emoticon?
20100819 21:29:53< Unnheulu> Emotion you mean? :P
20100819 21:30:11< Hulavuta> No
20100819 21:30:14< Hulavuta> Emoticon
20100819 21:30:19< Hulavuta> emotion is a feeling
20100819 21:30:29< Hulavuta> emoticon = emotion + icon
20100819 21:30:33< Hulavuta> Internet Lingo
20100819 21:30:57< Unnheulu> Uh?
20100819 21:31:01 * Unnheulu scratches his head
20100819 21:31:39< Hulavuta> what?
20100819 21:32:01< Unnheulu> You confuzzle me
20100819 21:32:25< e_s-iOS> :) = emoticon
20100819 21:32:36 * e_s-iOS is happy = emotion
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20100819 21:33:03< Hulavuta_> Damn
20100819 21:33:13< Hulavuta_> Stupid school computers
20100819 21:33:17< Hulavuta_> Always crashing
20100819 21:33:24< Hulavuta_> anyway, Unnheulu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon
20100819 21:33:34< Unnheulu> I'm on that page already :P
20100819 21:33:40< Hulavuta_> Damnit
20100819 21:33:58< Hulavuta_> Urg, how do I get rid of Hulavuta?
20100819 21:34:09< Unnheulu> At you registered with nickserv?
20100819 21:34:12< Unnheulu> s/t/r/
20100819 21:34:30< Hulavuta_> No, I logged in as "Hulavuta" on webchat
20100819 21:34:33< Hulavuta_> And it crashed
20100819 21:34:37< Hulavuta_> But Hulavuta is still in the room
20100819 21:34:57< Unnheulu> But is hulavuta registered?
20100819 21:34:58< thespaceinvader> hula: type '/msg NickServ ghost Hulavuta yourpassword
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20100819 21:35:06< thespaceinvader> assuming the nick is registered
20100819 21:35:35< Hulavuta_> Nope
20100819 21:35:45< Unnheulu> But you need a space in front of the /msg
20100819 21:35:47< Unnheulu> (sorry)
20100819 21:35:52< Hulavuta_> Oh well
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20100819 21:36:03< Gambit> Unnheulu: I fart in your general direction.
20100819 21:36:10< Hulavuta_> Odd
20100819 21:36:15-!- Hulavuta_ is now known as Hulavuta
20100819 21:36:25< Hulavuta> The other me left as soon as I PM'd him
20100819 21:36:34< Gambit> Hulavuta: coincidence
20100819 21:36:42< Hulavuta> Probably
20100819 21:37:06< Hulavuta> In about 20 minutes, this room will be filled with 6th graders
20100819 21:37:09< Unnheulu> s/Probably/Definitely/
20100819 21:37:21< Unnheulu> Well don't tell them about #wesnoth then :/
20100819 21:37:33< Gambit> Hulavuta: And why is that?
20100819 21:37:41< Hulavuta> Because I'm in my mom's classroom
20100819 21:37:43< Gambit> Oh your physical room.
20100819 21:37:45< Gambit> Not this channel.
20100819 21:37:48< Gambit> Okay.
20100819 21:37:51< Hulavuta> yeah
20100819 21:38:01< e_s-iOS> :)
20100819 21:38:05< Hulavuta> 11 Year old ARMY!!!
20100819 21:38:08< Hulavuta> TAKE OVER #WESNOTH
20100819 21:38:18< Hulavuta> spam spam spam 
20100819 21:38:20< Hulavuta> Okay, I'm done
20100819 21:40:25< e_s-iOS> Okay, got to go.
20100819 21:40:30< e_s-iOS> See ya guys!
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20100819 21:40:34< Hulavuta> bye
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20100819 21:41:50< Hulavuta> Is anyone still here?
20100819 21:42:06< DDR> No?
20100819 21:42:11< Hulavuta> =(
20100819 21:42:13< Gambit> We all left 20 minutes ago
20100819 21:42:20< Hulavuta> Anyway,
20100819 21:42:22< Hulavuta> I'm going too
20100819 21:42:25< Hulavuta> I have to work 
20100819 21:42:26< Hulavuta> So bye
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20100819 21:42:44< Gambit> *chirp*
20100819 21:43:00< Unnheulu> noy, Rhonda's being looking for you all day :P
20100819 21:43:27< Gambit> Unnheulu: I believe wesbot notifies you when people were looking for you.
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20100819 22:12:30< dta2> Hey guys, what's up?
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20100819 22:39:15< Hulavuta> Hi
20100819 22:39:31< dta2> Hey.
20100819 22:40:14< Hulavuta> The 6th Graders are all over my room
20100819 22:40:21< Hulavuta> *classroom
20100819 22:40:23< dta2> Oh, why is that? XD
20100819 22:40:30< dta2> You are a teacher?
20100819 22:40:35< Hulavuta> It's "meet the teacher"
20100819 22:40:37< Hulavuta> No
20100819 22:40:38< Hulavuta> My mom
20100819 22:40:44< Hulavuta> I accidentally said "my"
20100819 22:40:56< Hulavuta> But I'm in my mom's classroom
20100819 22:41:03< dta2> Oh.
20100819 22:41:05< Hulavuta> And there are sixth graders here for "meet the teacher"
20100819 22:41:11< Hulavuta> AND THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
20100819 22:41:15< dta2> :)
20100819 22:41:17< Hulavuta> They're watching me right now
20100819 22:42:08< Hulavuta> YOU TOO
20100819 22:42:14< dta2> ^.^
20100819 22:43:26< Hulavuta> Be afraid, these are sixth graders
20100819 22:43:33< Hulavuta> The ones who just found out what "sex" means
20100819 22:46:34< Hulavuta> I remember when I was a 6th grader...
20100819 22:47:49< Gambit> A web robot that automatically changes forum signature to match twitter status — thoughts?
20100819 22:49:30< Hulavuta> Cool
20100819 22:49:44< Hulavuta> Though it could get annoying, maybe
20100819 22:53:31< dta2> Gambit, Would you code it yourself?
20100819 22:53:45< Gambit> dta2: Yes, and host it locally too.
20100819 22:54:02< Gambit> I'm currently deciding whether or not I should.
20100819 22:54:06< dta2> What language?
20100819 22:54:10< Gambit> CFML
20100819 22:54:24< Gambit> At the very least I'll proably do it with my local PHPBB forum just to prove to myself that I can do it.
20100819 22:54:33< dta2> Yea.
20100819 22:54:49< dta2> It would just modify your signature?
20100819 22:54:51< Gambit> Because myself is always looking down on me as a web application developer. :)
20100819 22:54:55< Gambit> dta2: Yes
20100819 22:55:12< dta2> Gambit, Well, I can't see the Wesnoth staff being against it, then.
20100819 22:55:35< Gambit> No I can't either. The main problem is that I hardly ever tweet about wesnoth xD
20100819 22:55:41< dta2> XD
20100819 22:55:54< dta2> Yea.
20100819 22:56:03< dta2> Do you know any other programming languages?
20100819 22:56:11< Gambit> Yes lots.
20100819 22:56:25< Gambit> Well actually no. I don't know that you'd call many of them programming languages.
20100819 22:56:30< dta2> XD
20100819 22:56:38< dta2> HTML, WML don't count. :P
20100819 22:56:44< Gambit> Oh okay
20100819 22:56:46< dta2> XD
20100819 22:56:53< Gambit> JS, CSS? :P
20100819 22:56:59< dta2> I do some coding in PHP, but it's a scripting language.
20100819 22:57:20< dta2> Not as hardcore about C, but sure.
20100819 22:57:24< dta2> as*
20100819 22:57:29< Gambit> Perl, SQL, a little php, a little C++, a little VB, regular expressions (?)
20100819 22:57:42< Gambit> But mostly CFML because it kicks PHP to the curb.
20100819 22:57:56< dta2> VB? XD Are you on Windoze?
20100819 22:58:03< dta2> It does?! ^.^
20100819 22:58:09< Gambit> I was a year or two ago
20100819 22:58:16< Gambit> Well I was a few months ago
20100819 22:58:21< Gambit> But a year ago is when I stopped fiddling with VB
20100819 22:58:23< dta2> Yea, just this year I've switched from Windows.
20100819 22:58:36< Gambit> Except apparently I must relearn VB for my associates degree :(
20100819 22:58:42< dta2> lol
20100819 22:58:48< dta2> Microsoft is taking over the world.
20100819 22:58:54< Gambit> Yeah I mean wtf?
20100819 22:58:55< dta2> Are you in CS?
20100819 22:58:58< Gambit> It's a web design degress :s
20100819 22:59:03< dta2> Ah.
20100819 22:59:07< Gambit> *degree
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20100819 22:59:21< Gambit> So why the hell is VB on it rather than say... oh I dunno PHP or something?
20100819 22:59:25< dta2> Do you have a website?
20100819 22:59:28< Hulavuta> Gambit: I need help fixing my computer
20100819 22:59:32< dta2> XD
20100819 22:59:33< Gambit> dta2: Nope
20100819 22:59:45< dta2> XD
20100819 22:59:45< Hulavuta> I need help
20100819 22:59:50< dta2> Don't we all.
20100819 22:59:50< Gambit> There is one I make though http://countrysideanimalsanctuary.org
20100819 22:59:58< Gambit> Hulavuta: Yessss?
20100819 23:00:27< Hulavuta> There's trouble downloading the internet
20100819 23:00:32< dta2> ^.^
20100819 23:00:43< dta2> Hulavuta, Did you check for lizards in the tubes?
20100819 23:01:00< Hulavuta> I think it might be a problem with my operation system
20100819 23:01:01< dta2> Also, Ted Stevens died 11 days ago. It was a sad day for the internet.
20100819 23:01:26< dta2> Hulavuta, You are on the internets now.
20100819 23:01:33< Gambit> Sigh I should stop saying that I make that website
20100819 23:01:38< dta2> XD
20100819 23:01:39< Gambit> the clients keep putting up huge photos
20100819 23:01:42< dta2> I won't judge you!
20100819 23:01:45< Gambit> on the adoptables page
20100819 23:01:47< Hulavuta> Gambit: I need help, there's a problem with my OS
20100819 23:01:53< Gambit> I made it so that it uses their animal database
20100819 23:02:08< Gambit> That way I don't have to work... I mean so they can be more independent!
20100819 23:02:16< Hulavuta> Forget it dude
20100819 23:02:22< Gambit> Hulavuta: What is the problem?
20100819 23:02:29< dta2> You could just make it so images above a certain resolution are thumbnailed
20100819 23:02:36< Hulavuta> Sometimes it freezes really bad
20100819 23:02:43< Gambit> dta2: I could, but our registar is using an ancient version of coldfusion
20100819 23:02:44< dta2> Hulavuta, Are you using Windows?
20100819 23:02:52< Gambit> It doesn't support <cfimage> :(
20100819 23:02:58< dta2> XD
20100819 23:02:59< Hulavuta> No, I made my own operation system
20100819 23:03:03< Hulavuta> *operating
20100819 23:03:06< Gambit> Ha
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20100819 23:03:18< dta2> Hulavuta, Oh, well, I happen to be an expert in other people's operating systems.
20100819 23:03:25< Gambit> "Hey I just got done installing my computer, and I was wondering if you could help me put the internet on it?"-customer
20100819 23:03:37< Gambit> "Sure. What operating system are you using?"
20100819 23:03:41< dta2> XD
20100819 23:03:43< Gambit> "Well I made my own."-customer
20100819 23:03:49< Gambit> "Oh really? What did you call it?"
20100819 23:03:54< Gambit> "Windows 98!"-customer
20100819 23:03:56< dta2> I've always wanted to be phone tech support.
20100819 23:03:59< Hulavuta> -Yeah, that's what I was referencing. 
20100819 23:04:05< Gambit> "Well you might want to change that. I think it's trademarked."
20100819 23:04:14< Gambit> dta2: I had that job for a while last year :)
20100819 23:04:17< dta2> XD
20100819 23:04:17< Gambit> That's what I was quoting :D
20100819 23:04:23< dta2> Was it fun?
20100819 23:04:48< Gambit> Yes. I miss it.
20100819 23:04:59< dta2> ^.^
20100819 23:05:05< Gambit> Except the part with getting yelled at for things that aren't my fault.
20100819 23:05:12< dta2> XD
20100819 23:05:14< Gambit> Like when they decided to migrate to gmail.
20100819 23:05:16< Hulavuta> dta2: Obviously from that quote it had to be the best job ever
20100819 23:05:32< dta2> Gambit, Hulavuta, What kind of music do you listen to?
20100819 23:05:43< Gambit> classic rock
20100819 23:06:07< dta2> Things like this:
20100819 23:06:07< dta2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXhuso4OTG4
20100819 23:06:08< dta2> ?
20100819 23:06:17< Gambit> Yes. That.
20100819 23:06:20< dta2> :)
20100819 23:06:23< Hulavuta> I basically listen to what Gambit does
20100819 23:06:26< Hulavuta> But everything
20100819 23:06:26< dta2> Yea.
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20100819 23:06:39< dta2> I listen to a wide variety.
20100819 23:06:41< Hulavuta> I like rock, and variations on rock . (soft rock, metal, etc.)
20100819 23:06:46< Hulavuta> Rock is my #1
20100819 23:06:49< dta2> Yea.
20100819 23:06:59< Gambit> But more specifically I like southern fried classic rock, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc3LphELwQI
20100819 23:07:03< Hulavuta> Queen is my favorite "classic band" if it counts
20100819 23:07:05< Gambit> (aka: greatest song ever)
20100819 23:07:11< dta2> XD
20100819 23:07:14< dta2> Yea.
20100819 23:07:29< Hulavuta> What is the meaning of Cow Tools? What is the meaning of life? 
20100819 23:07:34< dta2> I enjoy things such as this:
20100819 23:07:35< dta2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHw5T4_JmmM
20100819 23:08:03< Hulavuta> Too bad I can't watch YouTube right now
20100819 23:08:25< dta2> Aw.
20100819 23:08:44< Hulavuta> Because I'm at school
20100819 23:08:46< Hulavuta> And they censor it
20100819 23:08:51< dta2> You could use a proxy.
20100819 23:09:03< Hulavuta> If you try to get to a proxy, it blocks it 
20100819 23:09:04< Hulavuta> XD
20100819 23:09:08< Hulavuta> oh the irony
20100819 23:09:09< dta2> You can get around that. :)
20100819 23:09:12< Hulavuta> I know
20100819 23:09:19< dta2> You can set up a tunnel at your home computer.
20100819 23:09:25< Hulavuta> Not right now I can't
20100819 23:09:25< Gambit> That video scares me.
20100819 23:09:28< dta2> XD
20100819 23:09:28< Hulavuta> Plus, I'm too lazy
20100819 23:09:33< dta2> Gambit, Just wait for the ending.
20100819 23:09:33< Hulavuta> And today is my last day here anyway,
20100819 23:09:37< Hulavuta> I don't go to this school
20100819 23:09:37< Gambit> And now I need more skynyrd to purify mine ears
20100819 23:09:40< Hulavuta> anymore
20100819 23:09:52< Hulavuta> They have the hardest to spell name ever
20100819 23:09:56< dta2> :)
20100819 23:10:01< Hulavuta> I'm not even going to try
20100819 23:10:25< Hulavuta> Has anyone seen "The Funniest Joke in the World"?
20100819 23:10:29< dta2> Nope.
20100819 23:10:40< Hulavuta> It's funny
20100819 23:10:46< dta2> It must be. ^.^
20100819 23:10:50< Gambit> Hulavuta: if it's your last day, you must start a food fight!
20100819 23:11:00< dta2> Gambit, Agreed.
20100819 23:11:08< Gambit> Hulavuta: My biggest regret.
20100819 23:11:11< Hulavuta> It's not my last day,
20100819 23:11:23< Hulavuta> My last day of attending this school was in June
20100819 23:11:30< Hulavuta> This is just my last day of coming to work with my mom
20100819 23:11:34< Gambit> [17:09:30] <Hulavuta> And today is my last day here anyway,
20100819 23:11:39< Gambit> Hulavuta: Well start a food fight anyway!
20100819 23:11:43< dta2> XD
20100819 23:11:49< Hulavuta> ...
20100819 23:11:57< Hulavuta> No one is going to be in the cafeteria or have access to food
20100819 23:12:07< Hulavuta> Gambit: Ping
20100819 23:12:53< dta2> Hulavuta, Pong
20100819 23:13:06< Gambit> Hulavuta: PING 1282252367
20100819 23:13:07< Hulavuta> I WAS TALKING TO GAMBIT
20100819 23:13:18< dta2> Hulavuta, Sorry. :)
20100819 23:13:32< Hulavuta> lol
20100819 23:13:34< Hulavuta> it's k
20100819 23:13:41< dta2> Hulavuta, Good, I was worried.
20100819 23:13:47< Hulavuta> Lol
20100819 23:13:53< Hulavuta> I called the cops on your ass
20100819 23:14:07< dta2> ^.^
20100819 23:14:13< Hulavuta> dta2: A dumb question, but...do you play Wesnoth?
20100819 23:14:20< dta2> 0.0 Don't tell Noy.
20100819 23:14:29< Gambit> [17:14:17] * Received CTCP PING answer from Hulavuta with 1 seconds round trip time
20100819 23:14:29< Hulavuta> dta2: Are you caboose?
20100819 23:14:31< Hulavuta> also pong
20100819 23:14:49< dta2> Hulavuta, Well, I do. But, currently I can't access the server. I can play on the alt server if you are interested.
20100819 23:14:57< dta2> Main server*
20100819 23:15:09< Hulavuta> So..you were banned?
20100819 23:15:15< Hulavuta> wwwtf
20100819 23:15:16< dta2> :)
20100819 23:15:19< dta2> Hulavuta, Something like that.
20100819 23:15:23< Hulavuta> But you're not Caboose?
20100819 23:15:29< dta2> Hulavuta, I'm dta.
20100819 23:15:29< Gambit> Your client doesn't respond to CTCP FINGER Hulavuta.
20100819 23:15:37< Hulavuta> I'm using Webchat
20100819 23:15:40< Hulavuta> Cuz I'm at school
20100819 23:15:46< Hulavuta> Oddly it's not blocked
20100819 23:16:25< Hulavuta> webchat doesn't do anything, 
20100819 23:16:30< Hulavuta> But I don't mean that literally
20100819 23:17:51< Hulavuta> And now it's quiet
20100819 23:18:02< Hulavuta> dta2: What'd you get banned for?
20100819 23:18:36< dta2> Hulavuta, Well, I don't want to give you a sob story, but, General discussion in the lobby
20100819 23:18:54< Hulavuta> Do you have a forum account? (Did I ask you that yesterday?)
20100819 23:19:28< dta2> Hulavuta, I pm'd the mod who banned me (Perma ban), from my forum account. But, my account was banned for 'Harassing a mod'.
20100819 23:19:40< Hulavuta> lol
20100819 23:19:44< dta2> ^.^
20100819 23:19:45< Hulavuta> Do you like campaigns?
20100819 23:19:49< dta2> It's not funny!
20100819 23:19:55< dta2> Well, not really. XD
20100819 23:20:17< Hulavuta> =(
20100819 23:20:21< dta2> :|
20100819 23:20:30< Hulavuta> So now all you can do is play on servers with not as many people
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20100819 23:20:36< dta2> So, if you see Noy, tell him I'd like to speak to him.
20100819 23:20:42< dta2> Yea.
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20100819 23:21:11< Hulavuta> He's here
20100819 23:21:14< Hulavuta> watching us
20100819 23:21:28< dta2> Hulavuta, He's mostly not watching this channel.
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20100819 23:21:41< dta2> Hulavuta, But, the problem is, he won't talk to me. :S
20100819 23:21:44< Hulavuta> Well you can highlight him by typing Noy
20100819 23:21:48< dta2> Noy
20100819 23:22:15< Hulavuta> Or you can double-click his name to private chat
20100819 23:22:26< dta2> I've done that. D: He won't respond. *Cries*
20100819 23:22:33< Hulavuta> oh well
20100819 23:22:41< dta2> I feel like an abandoned child. :S
20100819 23:22:46< Gambit> dta2: lowercase, and he might be away from keyboard.
20100819 23:22:49< Hulavuta> get a new house/computer/internet connection
20100819 23:22:51< dta2> noy
20100819 23:22:54< Hulavuta> Then you can play on the server agaib
20100819 23:22:54< dta2> XD
20100819 23:22:56< Hulavuta> *again
20100819 23:22:57< Gambit> Lots of people are logged in here but not at the computer
20100819 23:22:58< dta2> Hulavuta, Right away!
20100819 23:23:03< dta2> Gambit, Yea.
20100819 23:23:57< Gambit> And I'm not sure if this policy: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=24277#_mpmods
20100819 23:24:00< Gambit> also applies to IRC
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20100819 23:24:22< Gambit> I would guess IRC queries are just as good as forum PMs
20100819 23:24:40< dta2> Yea.
20100819 23:24:45< Gambit> But a forum PM would probably be better anyways incase you have to go before he gets back.
20100819 23:24:55< Gambit> If you're attempting to appeal your ban, or whatever.
20100819 23:25:09< dta2> Gambit, I did that. :S But, the account was banned for 'Harassing a Mod'.
20100819 23:25:14< dta2> So, I'm on irc.
20100819 23:25:35< dta2> I suppose I'll give it a few days.
20100819 23:26:16< Hulavuta> I just read something interesting on TVTropes
20100819 23:26:26< dta2> TV Tropes is great. :)
20100819 23:26:27< Hulavuta> When a Walking Corpse kills a mounted unit,
20100819 23:26:33< Hulavuta> it becomes a "Walking Corpse" on a horse
20100819 23:26:37< Hulavuta> Doesn't walk
20100819 23:26:44< Hulavuta> Although the steed corpse walks
20100819 23:26:47< dta2> There is an article on that? XD
20100819 23:27:14< Hulavuta> No
20100819 23:27:27< Hulavuta> It's on the list of examples for "Don't say the Z (zombie) word"
20100819 23:27:34< dta2> Oh lol
20100819 23:27:53< Hulavuta> yeah,
20100819 23:28:46< Hulavuta> dta2: Have you played ANY campaigns?
20100819 23:29:25< dta2> Hulavuta, Sure, I've played the first one, but I found it boring after several scenarios. I prefer humans. :)
20100819 23:29:34< Hulavuta> Heir To the Throne?
20100819 23:29:38< dta2> Yea.
20100819 23:29:55< Hulavuta> Then try some other campaigns, (human ones)
20100819 23:29:56< dta2> Hulavuta, Don't worry, it'll sort itself out. :)
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20100819 23:30:05< dta2> Hulavuta, I mean human players. :)
20100819 23:30:08< Hulavuta> oh
20100819 23:30:08< Hulavuta> lol
20100819 23:30:21< Hulavuta> I thought you meant loyalists
20100819 23:32:10< Hulavuta> dta2: Do you mind the length of MP?
20100819 23:32:14< Hulavuta> (Or quitters?)
20100819 23:32:47< dta2> Hulavuta, Nah, I mostly play with select players that I know aren't quitters.
20100819 23:32:58< Hulavuta> Me too =)
20100819 23:33:03< Hulavuta> IRC is perfect for that
20100819 23:33:12< dta2> Hulavuta, But, some games attract more quitters than others. :P (Isar's Cross)
20100819 23:33:14< dta2> Yea.
20100819 23:33:27< Hulavuta> But still, it's long no matter if you know the people or not
20100819 23:33:41< dta2> Hulavuta, Yea.
20100819 23:34:01< Hulavuta> YOu don't mind?
20100819 23:34:11< dta2> Hulavuta, Nope. :)
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20100819 23:34:18< Hulavuta> Me neither =)
20100819 23:34:24< Hulavuta> I multitask,
20100819 23:34:33< Hulavuta> Normally I do my homework between turns XD
20100819 23:34:38< dta2> XDD
20100819 23:34:59< Hulavuta> We should play sometime,
20100819 23:35:08< Hulavuta> If you ever get back on the mai server
20100819 23:35:10< Hulavuta> *main
20100819 23:35:12< Hulavuta> I know some guys
20100819 23:35:15< dta2> Sure, do you want to play now, on the alt server?
20100819 23:35:15< Hulavuta> Who like to play,
20100819 23:35:20< Hulavuta> I can't right now
20100819 23:35:23< Hulavuta> I'm at school
20100819 23:35:27< dta2> Oh, ok.
20100819 23:35:29< Hulavuta> REALLY old computers,
20100819 23:35:32< dta2> :P
20100819 23:35:35< Hulavuta> I've downloaded 1.4 though XD
20100819 23:35:41< dta2> XD
20100819 23:35:47< Hulavuta> And it works fine, although loading takes forever
20100819 23:36:11< dta2> Yea, but it will be using a different server.
20100819 23:36:16< Hulavuta> I know,
20100819 23:36:24< Hulavuta> Actually, you can't play MP on 1.4 anymore
20100819 23:36:29< Hulavuta> It's disabled
20100819 23:36:37< Hulavuta> It says "The server required 1.8"
20100819 23:36:47< dta2> Oh. XD
20100819 23:37:16< dta2> bbl
20100819 23:38:59< Hulavuta> webchat has some issues
20100819 23:39:11< Hulavuta> a lot
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