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20100820 00:56:09< Hulavuta> Hello
20100820 00:56:11< Hulavuta> Back home now,
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20100820 01:44:55< dta2> Sup shadowm_laptop.
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20100820 02:19:50< dta2> Hey, noy.
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20100820 03:47:09< elvish_sovereign> Hulavuta: Hi.
20100820 03:47:11< Hulavuta> That was fast
20100820 03:47:12< wesbot> Hulavuta: Sometimes we are fast
20100820 03:47:20< Hulavuta> That was fast too 0_0
20100820 03:47:21< wesbot> Hulavuta: Sometimes we are fast
20100820 03:47:30< elvish_sovereign> I was on at the particular moment :)
20100820 03:47:38< Hulavuta> I know
20100820 03:47:40< Hulavuta> Anyway, MP?
20100820 03:47:44< elvish_sovereign> Unfortunately
20100820 03:47:47< elvish_sovereign> no
20100820 03:47:50< Hulavuta> =(
20100820 03:47:52< elvish_sovereign> I have to do stuff
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20100820 03:48:02< Hulavuta> ok
20100820 03:48:17< elvish_sovereign> later, maybe
20100820 03:48:20< elvish_sovereign> though
20100820 03:48:44< Hulavuta> k
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20100820 06:25:30< Dragoth> Hello.
20100820 06:26:02< dta2_> Hello.
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20100820 06:28:29< Dragoth_jpn> Official$B!!(BChannel.....
20100820 06:28:35< Dragoth_jpn> hmm....
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20100820 07:54:20< ancestral> wesbot: seen Blueblaze
20100820 07:54:20< wesbot> ancestral: The person with the nick Blueblaze last spoke 2h 47m ago. 2h 28m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth-dev and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: Blueblaze
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20100820 09:52:56< Ivanovic> moin
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20100820 13:27:27< Rhonda> shadowmaster, Gambit, I hate you. Came late to work today. %-)
20100820 13:27:47< Gambit> tvtropes?
20100820 13:27:52< Rhonda> Not _too_ late, mind you, flextime. But still
20100820 13:27:58< Rhonda> froggato
20100820 13:28:02< Gambit> Ah
20100820 13:28:11< Rhonda> Is that guy in the castle the end of the game?
20100820 13:28:29< Gambit> AFAIK
20100820 13:28:35< Gambit> I've not actually made it there yet :#
20100820 13:28:42< Rhonda> *blinks*
20100820 13:28:46< Rhonda> HA HA!
20100820 13:29:02 * Rhonda . o O ( reportbug froggato # too short! )
20100820 13:29:04 * Gambit sucks at platformers okay!
20100820 13:30:47 * Rhonda sends Gambit to train with blobwars
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20100820 13:56:05< Hulavuta> Gambit: Poke
20100820 13:56:15< Gambit> Hulavuta: stab
20100820 13:56:19< Hulavuta> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=31125
20100820 13:56:21< Gambit> What's up?
20100820 13:56:26< Hulavuta> You think this guy could possibly be a troll?
20100820 13:56:49< Gambit> Tis possible.
20100820 13:56:58< Gambit> Or he somehow connected to trunk's add-on server
20100820 13:57:12< Hulavuta> I'm talking about the rest of it,
20100820 13:57:14< Dragoth_jpn> Drake.....
20100820 13:57:36< Hulavuta> wut
20100820 13:57:52< Gambit> Hulavuta: He's clearly addressing you.
20100820 13:57:55< Gambit> :P
20100820 13:58:05< Gambit> "Drake..... Avatar! So we meet again!"
20100820 13:58:07< Hulavuta> Gambit: You mean he downloaded trunk (is that possible?) or he got to trunk on the add-ons site?
20100820 13:58:12< Gambit> "But this time you will perish!"
20100820 13:58:17< Hulavuta> damnit
20100820 13:58:21< Hulavuta> You Ninja'd me
20100820 13:58:26< Hulavuta> :-(
20100820 13:58:48< Hulavuta> Dragoth_jpn: Did you want to say something?
20100820 13:58:53< Gambit> Hulavuta: in game
20100820 13:59:09< Hulavuta> Huh?
20100820 13:59:23< Gambit> He connected to addons.wesnoth.org in game
20100820 13:59:26< Dragoth_jpn> Please$B!!(BWeit....
20100820 13:59:30< Gambit> And ended up at trunk's addon server.
20100820 13:59:33< Hulavuta> oh
20100820 13:59:34< Hulavuta> I see
20100820 13:59:49< Dragoth_jpn> I'm English$B!!(Bis poor...
20100820 13:59:53< Hulavuta> but why doesn't he just download them from the site and extract them?
20100820 13:59:53< Gambit> Maybe it doesn't do redirection based on version and port numbers are required.
20100820 13:59:56 * Gambit tests
20100820 14:00:07< Gambit> Hulavuta: Because he is illiterate
20100820 14:00:28< Hulavuta> XD
20100820 14:00:33< Hulavuta> Or a troll
20100820 14:00:55< Gambit> Dragoth_jpn: Either this channel is -c or your client does not understand mirc coloring at all.
20100820 14:01:07< Hulavuta> Plus he insults everyone
20100820 14:01:11< Hulavuta> no, silly, this don't works
20100820 14:01:15< Gambit> Aaand this channel is +C
20100820 14:01:22< Hulavuta> read the post again -.-
20100820 14:01:29< Hulavuta> I think you don't understand. I don't want to extract myself...
20100820 14:01:37< Hulavuta> maybe it's too much information for your brain, but let's see.
20100820 14:02:04< Dragoth_jpn> Test$B!)(B
20100820 14:02:09< Gambit> The add-ons server does redirect based on version.
20100820 14:02:17< Gambit> Dragoth_jpn: I got this: Test$B!)(B
20100820 14:02:20< Gambit> Test was green
20100820 14:02:29< Hulavuta> So if he used 1.6 it would send him to 1.6 server?
20100820 14:02:32< Gambit> But there are these
20100820 14:02:45< Dragoth_jpn> $B!V(B$B!W(B using tags.
20100820 14:02:59< Dragoth_jpn> $B!c(Bcolor green$B!d(B using tags.
20100820 14:03:05< Hulavuta> v
20100820 14:03:09< Hulavuta> [][][][][]
20100820 14:03:10< Gambit> Hmmm
20100820 14:03:25< Dragoth_jpn> $B!c!d"*(B<>
20100820 14:03:34< joo> o_O
20100820 14:03:53< Dragoth_jpn> stoping is $B!c(Bstop$B!d(B
20100820 14:03:56< Hulavuta> This is awkward...
20100820 14:03:59< Gambit> Dragoth_jpn: What is it supposed to look like?
20100820 14:04:01< Gambit> :s
20100820 14:04:57< Dragoth_jpn> Wesnoth in the games?
20100820 14:05:32< Dragoth_jpn> lavel?
20100820 14:05:56< Zarel> What, Wesnoth is a game?
20100820 14:06:00< Zarel> Why didn't anyone tell me?
20100820 14:06:14< Gambit> Zarel: We were afraid you'd start playing it.
20100820 14:06:33< Gambit> You are too good. You had to be stopped!
20100820 14:06:57< Dragoth_jpn> IRC command$B!)(B
20100820 14:07:17< Dragoth_jpn> Wesnoth in game command?
20100820 14:07:18 * Hulavuta is confuzzled
20100820 14:07:52< Dragoth_jpn> $B",(BI'm looking for Green,
20100820 14:07:54< Gambit> Dragoth_jpn: So, if I understand correctly, you want the Wesnoth equivilant of a certain IRC command?
20100820 14:07:59< Gambit> But that command is not valid anyways?
20100820 14:08:26< joo> ooo___OOO
20100820 14:08:32< Dragoth_jpn> not,
20100820 14:08:32< Zarel> Well, you can use /me in Wesnoth.
20100820 14:08:45< joo> and /msg
20100820 14:08:50< Gambit> Tada! This will make your text green inside wesnoth
20100820 14:08:57< Dragoth_jpn> it is using tags IRC tags.
20100820 14:09:00< Gambit> Well inside a label anyway.
20100820 14:09:07< Zarel> Dragoth_jpn: Your native language is Japanese, isn't it? :| You know, if it were Chinese, I'd be able to help you.
20100820 14:09:12< Gambit> Dragoth_jpn: IRC doesn't have tags.
20100820 14:09:18< joo> Gambit: link to spec?
20100820 14:09:34< Hulavuta> If it were English, I could help you
20100820 14:09:40< Gambit> In fact IRC doesn't actually have color.
20100820 14:09:45< Gambit> But most major clients have adopted a standard.
20100820 14:09:53< Dragoth_jpn> $BF|K\8l$G$$$$$N$G$7$g$&$+!)(B
20100820 14:09:58< Gambit> IRC doesn't even have /me
20100820 14:10:05< Gambit> Until CTCP came along.
20100820 14:10:10< joo> Yes.
20100820 14:10:11< Gambit> Which again is a client thing.
20100820 14:10:42< Gambit> Actually color is part of CTCP I think
20100820 14:10:45< Dragoth_jpn> Useing to jpn lang_
20100820 14:10:46< Gambit> I'm not sure on that though.
20100820 14:10:47< Dragoth_jpn> $B!)(B
20100820 14:10:52 * Rhonda thinks about rebooting the server. Any objections?
20100820 14:11:08< Zarel> Rhonda: Which server?
20100820 14:11:11< Rhonda> Dragoth_jpn: Can you please stop using this strange thing that looks like cursing signs in comic books?
20100820 14:11:28< Rhonda> Zarel: the only relevant vor mentioning in here? :)
20100820 14:11:44< Zarel> Rhonda: Even relevant to #wesnoth, there's the MP server and the web server.
20100820 14:11:46< Dragoth_jpn> Sorry,,,,
20100820 14:11:49< Zarel> Unless they're both the same server?
20100820 14:11:54< Gambit> Rhonda: I think he's using a machine translator that is messing with formatting
20100820 14:11:58< Rhonda> Zarel: Which is still the same machine. :)
20100820 14:12:12< Zarel> Ah. Well, I'm not stopping you. ;)
20100820 14:12:17< Gambit> I will!
20100820 14:12:40< Gambit> Rhonda: I'm confused why you ask here though...
20100820 14:12:44< Dragoth_jpn> Jpn speaking is [mojibake] ....
20100820 14:12:46 * Rhonda looks into the security advisory again wether it really bothers me
20100820 14:13:20< Rhonda> Gambit: Because I am friendly and don't want users to go "OMG! TEH FORUM IS DOWN!"
20100820 14:13:31< Gambit> Oh cool.
20100820 14:13:45< joo> Gambit: is it some form of HTML?
20100820 14:14:04< Gambit> joo: No idea. It looks like WML, but that isn't localized.
20100820 14:14:26< joo> Gambit: Where did you hear about it? It must be documented somewhere.
20100820 14:14:44< Gambit> joo: Wait what?
20100820 14:15:04< Gambit> I think we're talking about different things here...
20100820 14:15:10< joo> Gambit: The markup langauge you said can be used in labels
20100820 14:15:13< joo> I'm curious
20100820 14:15:14< Gambit> OH
20100820 14:15:15< Zarel> Rhonda: OMG! TEH FORUM IS DOWN!
20100820 14:15:15< Gambit> Pango
20100820 14:15:20< Gambit> just a second
20100820 14:15:21< Rhonda> Zarel: lies
20100820 14:15:25< Zarel> Rhonda: Oh, wait, it's not. I need better timing. :(
20100820 14:15:40< Zarel> Was I too early or too late? ;)
20100820 14:15:54< Gambit> joo: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/InterfaceActionsWML#Formatting
20100820 14:16:48< Rhonda> Zarel: When the lobby quits that's a very good indicator that the time is right. ;)
20100820 14:16:51< joo> Gambit: Thanks
20100820 14:17:43< Altreus> Hmm I can't find that option to delay shroud updates
20100820 14:17:48< Gambit> Rhonda: Really?
20100820 14:17:52< Gambit> Rhonda: May I quote you please?
20100820 14:18:00< Gambit> Note: it will upset shadowmaster
20100820 14:18:01< Gambit> :D
20100820 14:18:26< Rhonda> I'm absolutely fine with upsetting shadowmaster - but what exactly do you want to quote?
20100820 14:18:33< Gambit> [08:16:48] Zarel: When the lobby quits that's a very good indicator that the time is right. ;)
20100820 14:18:46< Altreus> ah there it is
20100820 14:19:02< Rhonda> Gambit: Why should that upset him?
20100820 14:19:14< Zarel> Rhonda: Probably the lack of context. ;)
20100820 14:19:33< Gambit> Zarel: True...
20100820 14:19:40< Rhonda> In every sense of it. Do I have to get it?
20100820 14:19:52< Rhonda> Because I don't.
20100820 14:19:53< Gambit> Rhonda: Because he's always telling me that lobby is a terrible indicator of X being down
20100820 14:20:04< Gambit> :)
20100820 14:20:30< Hulavuta> ANybody want to play MP?
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20100820 14:20:44< Gambit> It won't upset him so much as it will make him roll his eyes.
20100820 14:21:02< Rhonda> It's also terrible that you two started on your own bots instead of coordinating with me. But then … who am I to judge wasted times for duplicated efforts.
20100820 14:21:29< Zarel> I like Gambit's bot best!
20100820 14:21:34< Zarel> Since it tries to act like my bot! :D
20100820 14:21:41< Gambit> Rhonda: Well my bot was a learning experiment that turned out to be useful.
20100820 14:21:50< Zarel> ^
20100820 14:21:51 * wesbot pouts at Zarel
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20100820 14:21:58< Zarel> :(
20100820 14:22:23< Dragoth_jpn> I'm Sleepy....
20100820 14:22:24-!- wesbot [~wesbot@wesnoth/bot/wesbot] has joined #wesnoth
20100820 14:22:32< Dragoth_jpn> See you....
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20100820 14:22:44< wesbot> Hmm. /join #wesbot was empty. That's where I started to notice that I used the wrong door.
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20100820 14:23:13< Gambit> janebot: !part #wesnoth
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20100820 14:25:44< Gambit> Zarel: It shall surpass your bot :o
20100820 14:25:54< Gambit> (Actually in terms of actual usefulness it already does)
20100820 14:26:18< Gambit> *actual useful usefulness
20100820 14:26:38< Zarel> I RESENT THAT
20100820 14:26:39< Gambit> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment
20100820 14:27:02< joo> >_<
20100820 14:27:17< joo> I must have misunderstood what you meant by labels
20100820 14:27:22< Zarel> Gambit: What be your timezone? I didn't expect to see you up at this hour.
20100820 14:27:26< Gambit> joo: No it works in in game labels.
20100820 14:27:32< joo> I tried it
20100820 14:27:37< Gambit> But the character limit gets in the way.
20100820 14:27:45< Gambit> Zarel: CTCP time
20100820 14:28:20< Zarel> EDT, ty
20100820 14:28:26< Gambit> Also regarding my earlier tvropes link; http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OverlyPrepreparedGag
20100820 14:29:40< joo> Oh, it only works in team labels
20100820 14:29:54< joo> Probably because public labels are already wrapped with a colour
20100820 14:29:55< Gambit> joo: Hmm I guess they didn't want people impersonating people anymore
20100820 14:30:14< joo> That makes sense
20100820 14:30:25< Gambit> I wonder if I can get janebot allowed in here. Hmmm
20100820 14:30:51< Gambit> Ivan0vic scares me though...
20100820 14:33:42< Zarel> Ivanovic: HEY IVANOVIC GAMBIT IS TRYING TO AVOID HIGHLIGHTING YOU
20100820 14:33:51< Zarel> Ivanovic: SO I HELPFULLY DID IT FOR HIM
20100820 14:35:35< Hulavuta> Ivonavic
20100820 14:35:48< Hulavuta> Damnit
20100820 14:35:49< Hulavuta> Typo
20100820 14:35:59< Gambit> Zarel: you
20100820 14:36:01< Gambit> FOOL!
20100820 14:36:10< Hulavuta> "Fires energy blast"
20100820 14:36:12< Hulavuta> I mean
20100820 14:36:16< Hulavuta> Fires energy blast
20100820 14:36:18< Hulavuta> No quotes
20100820 14:36:29< Zarel> Hulavuta: You may consider using /me
20100820 14:36:39< Gambit> Or if you're using telnet
20100820 14:36:50< Hulavuta> Gambit fired the energy blast though
20100820 14:37:09 * Gambit fires energy blast
20100820 14:38:03< Hulavuta> Zarel: say /me dies
20100820 14:38:11 * Gambit kills shikadibot
20100820 14:38:11 * shikadibot is immortal
20100820 14:38:20< Hulavuta> kill shikadibot
20100820 14:38:22< Hulavuta> yay
20100820 14:38:27< Hulavuta> kills shikadibot
20100820 14:38:32 * Hulavuta kills shikadibot
20100820 14:38:32 * shikadibot is immortal
20100820 14:38:39< Gambit> Zarel: Seriously though.
20100820 14:38:41< Gambit> Not cool.
20100820 14:38:43< Zarel> Yes?
20100820 14:38:46< Zarel> Oh
20100820 14:38:49< Zarel> lol
20100820 14:38:54< Gambit> I have developeraphobia
20100820 14:39:44< Gambit> My release manageraphobia is especially debilitating.
20100820 14:41:10< Zarel> You spar wits with shadowmaster all the time. o_O
20100820 14:42:35< Gambit> Not at first though. :\
20100820 14:43:59< Gambit> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DevelopersArentHuman
20100820 14:44:04< Gambit> Oh wait... that's not a trope. :P
20100820 14:44:18< Zarel> lol, you tricked me
20100820 14:44:56< Zarel> Seriously, become a dev. That'll help you overcome your fear of devs. :P
20100820 14:45:04< Gambit> I tried yesterday.
20100820 14:45:09< Zarel> Or not. I know a few devs who are afraid of Ivanovic, too. ;)
20100820 14:45:13< Gambit> I couldn't even find the spot in the source I was looking for...
20100820 14:45:47< Ivanovic> honestly, why do people highlight me all the time with nonesense in here?!?
20100820 14:45:57< Ivanovic> do you want me to quit this chan, since it is useless anyway?
20100820 14:45:58< Gambit> Ivanovic: Sorry about him.
20100820 14:46:00< joo> You have angered iit!
20100820 14:50:35< Zarel> Ivanovic: Really? I like being highlighted, it makes me feel important. ;)
20100820 14:52:32< Ivanovic> Zarel: if something noteworthy is up, a highlight is fine, but if you are just talking about some nonesense stuff: no, highlights for those do suck
20100820 14:53:20< SekoIdiootti> Especially when doing something that needs sound (like recording something)
20100820 14:53:38< SekoIdiootti> ...though I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks so but well
20100820 14:54:06< Zarel> I usually mute IRC when doing stuff that needs sound.
20100820 14:54:36< SekoIdiootti> you can mute it? O.O
20100820 14:56:34< Zarel> ...yes
20100820 14:56:49< Zarel> I believe that's the reason Ubuntu switched to Pulseaudio in the first place.
20100820 14:57:01< Zarel> And caused sound headaches for all two games on Linux. :|
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20100820 15:35:26< Hulavuta> Anybody want to play MP?
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20100820 17:24:47< Naeddyr> od
20100820 17:24:56< Naeddyr> why can't people read posts more carefully
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20100820 17:27:56< Hulavuta> Naeddyr: I agree
20100820 17:28:05< Hulavuta> Some people don't speak English well though
20100820 17:28:09< Hulavuta> And might not understand
20100820 17:28:31< Naeddyr> i can understand that
20100820 17:28:45< Naeddyr> i am myself a second language speaker
20100820 17:28:47< Naeddyr> (of english)
20100820 17:29:05< Naeddyr> god
20100820 17:29:10< Hulavuta> god?
20100820 17:29:32< Naeddyr> when i reply to posts i always have to remove so much sarcasm and "why? WHY????"s
20100820 17:30:01< Naeddyr> hulavuta: i'm just "aaagh"ing
20100820 17:30:17< Hulavuta> Ok
20100820 17:30:25< Hulavuta> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&p=451133#p451133 are you talking about this?
20100820 17:30:38< Naeddyr> yes
20100820 17:30:41< Hulavuta> Hmm,
20100820 17:30:58< Naeddyr> i mean, it would be ok if you'd criticise my ideas, and got it right
20100820 17:30:59< Gambit> poor Hulavuta. Doomed to get ninja'd forever.
20100820 17:31:10< Hulavuta> Yep.
20100820 17:31:13< Naeddyr> but here, he seemingly didn't even read my post
20100820 17:31:19< Naeddyr> just skimmed and spotted some keywords
20100820 17:31:26< Naeddyr> then created an image in his mind
20100820 17:31:27< Hulavuta> Well you didn't mention the tabs in the recall menu though
20100820 17:31:32< Hulavuta> or did you?
20100820 17:31:34< Hulavuta> lemme check
20100820 17:31:35< Naeddyr> nah
20100820 17:31:59< Naeddyr> but there's so many ways to do a combined recruit/recall dialogue that i didn't bother
20100820 17:32:14< Naeddyr> of course putting them in a list, and then not indicating difference would be stupid
20100820 17:32:21< Hulavuta> Meh, but if you didn't specify, I don't think it's right to blame him,
20100820 17:33:08< Naeddyr> i thought people would be charitable enough to give me the benefit of the doubt
20100820 17:33:34< Naeddyr> instead, they go for the worst-case scenario
20100820 17:33:45< Hulavuta> Eh, I guess it was his error
20100820 17:33:49< hylje_> ninja
20100820 17:33:57-!- hylje_ is now known as hylje
20100820 17:34:15< Hulavuta> wut
20100820 17:35:05< Gambit> Hulavuta: Seriously. You get ninja'd all the time.
20100820 17:35:15< Hulavuta> I know
20100820 17:35:17< Gambit> I'm going to start beating you to pointing out that you were ninja'd.
20100820 17:35:21< Gambit> I'll ninja your ninja :o
20100820 17:35:24< Hulavuta> No
20100820 17:35:26< Hulavuta> Well
20100820 17:35:32< Hulavuta> It takes me a while to decide what I'm going to say
20100820 17:35:33< Hulavuta> Plus
20100820 17:35:35< hylje> ninja ninja your ninja :o
20100820 17:35:39< Gambit> In fact I'll ninja the person who is ninjaing you by ninjaing you first.
20100820 17:35:48< Naeddyr> what does "to ninja" mean in this context Gambit
20100820 17:35:54< Hulavuta> It means you post
20100820 17:35:56< Hulavuta> Right before someone else
20100820 17:35:57< Gambit> Then when that person says they were ninja'd in ninjaing you
20100820 17:35:57< Hulavuta> Ha
20100820 17:35:58< Hulavuta> FIRST
20100820 17:36:02< Naeddyr> thought something like that
20100820 17:36:06< Hulavuta> TAKE THAT BITCHES
20100820 17:36:13< Hulavuta> Anyway,
20100820 17:36:31< Hulavuta> In the portrait thread,
20100820 17:36:31< Gambit> Naeddyr: Hulavuta is always saying "ninja'd" to point out that he was literally one second short of posting something before someone else
20100820 17:36:42< Hulavuta> It's Porty's fault
20100820 17:36:58< Naeddyr> hrm
20100820 17:37:11< Hulavuta> Anyway, the reason I didn't post before TSI in the portrait thread is because I had to do some looking to make sure I wasn't completely wrong
20100820 17:37:16< Hulavuta> That would make me look like an idiot
20100820 17:37:17< Naeddyr> ok, this meaning of "to ninja" is obviously derived from its use in MMORPGs and games
20100820 17:37:24< Naeddyr> and there could be a story there
20100820 17:37:39< Hulavuta> Let's say I'm trying to get to a building
20100820 17:37:41< Hulavuta> And a ninja
20100820 17:37:43< Hulavuta> Pops out
20100820 17:37:46< Hulavuta> and enters first
20100820 17:37:49< Hulavuta> That's Ninja'd
20100820 17:37:54< Naeddyr> either it's just "ninjas are quick stealin' mofos" or some game had some more specific thing going on with a ninja class or something
20100820 17:38:00< hylje> ninjas are always unseen and faster than you
20100820 17:38:01< Hulavuta> No
20100820 17:38:09< Hulavuta> ninjas are quick stealin mofos
20100820 17:38:10< Hulavuta> That's it
20100820 17:38:18< Naeddyr> could be
20100820 17:38:25< Naeddyr> etymology doesn't always need a reason
20100820 17:38:47< Naeddyr> for example, Finnish varas and Swedish varg are cognate
20100820 17:38:56< Naeddyr> (wolf, same as Tolkienian warg)
20100820 17:39:02< Naeddyr> while varas means thief
20100820 17:39:17< hylje> etymology is random
20100820 17:39:23< Naeddyr> not really
20100820 17:40:11< Naeddyr> well
20100820 17:40:17< Naeddyr> depends on what you mean with "random"
20100820 17:40:17< Hulavuta> Naeddyr: You give these people too much credit
20100820 17:40:22< Hulavuta> They just came up with Ninja
20100820 17:40:27< Hulavuta> Because they are obsessed with Ninjas
20100820 17:40:53< Naeddyr> i don't think i'm giving too much credit to anyone
20100820 17:40:58< Naeddyr> i mean
20100820 17:41:08< Naeddyr> say you have a game where a ninja is the fastest class in the game
20100820 17:41:23< Naeddyr> and that class is used by griefers to steal phat lewts from people
20100820 17:41:33< hylje> phat lewt
20100820 17:41:53< Hulavuta> Naeddyr: Even that is too much credit
20100820 17:41:55< Naeddyr> that could easily lead to the verbing for "ninja" to "to steal phat lewt"
20100820 17:42:03< Naeddyr> it's not a question of credit!
20100820 17:42:28< Naeddyr> of "ninja"*
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20100820 17:42:48< Naeddyr> anyhow, that was just a what-if case
20100820 17:43:04< Hulavuta> I mean, you give them too much credit to think they got it from there
20100820 17:43:08< Naeddyr> i'm not saying it's what happened, probably not.
20100820 17:43:23< Naeddyr> Hulavuta: that's how language works.
20100820 17:43:30< Naeddyr> by association and stuff
20100820 17:44:20< Hulavuta> I know
20100820 17:44:39< Naeddyr> also right now i don't really know what you mean by "credit"
20100820 17:44:44< Naeddyr> well i know what you mean
20100820 17:44:49< Naeddyr> but i don't know what you MEAN
20100820 17:44:54< Naeddyr> if you get my meaning
20100820 17:45:01< Naeddyr> i mean
20100820 17:45:07< Naeddyr> stuff!
20100820 17:45:13< Hulavuta> What you mean is
20100820 17:45:13< Naeddyr> let's talk about something else
20100820 17:45:15< Hulavuta> WHat you meant
20100820 17:45:17< Hulavuta> isn't what you MEAN
20100820 17:45:20< Hulavuta> but you didn't mean
20100820 17:45:24< Hulavuta> what you might've meant
20100820 17:45:26< Hulavuta> because of the meaning
20100820 17:45:30< Hulavuta> meant what it didn't mean
20100820 17:45:31< Naeddyr> ok now you're just being mean
20100820 17:45:35< Hulavuta> XD
20100820 17:45:39< Hulavuta> so you mean
20100820 17:45:43< Hulavuta> what you didn't mean you meant
20100820 17:45:47< Hulavuta> because what you meant,
20100820 17:45:57< Hulavuta> wasn't your mean meant mean pickle paper privates
20100820 17:46:00< Hulavuta> get what I mean?
20100820 17:46:34< Hulavuta> Naeddyr: say "yes"
20100820 17:46:38< Naeddyr> no
20100820 17:46:53< Naeddyr> i was getting a coke
20100820 17:46:54< Hulavuta> You stole my line
20100820 17:46:58< Naeddyr> thought you'd go on for longer
20100820 17:47:31< Naeddyr> so sorry about not replying
20100820 17:47:33< Naeddyr> *sip*
20100820 17:47:51< Naeddyr> this is pretty bad coke
20100820 17:47:53< Naeddyr> russian
20100820 17:48:11< Naeddyr> after being on domestic pepsi for a while you can really tell the difference
20100820 17:48:20< Hulavuta> no
20100820 17:48:23< Hulavuta> i was taking a piss
20100820 17:48:29< Hulavuta> thought you'd go on for longer
20100820 17:48:33< Hulavuta> so sorry about not replying
20100820 17:48:36< Hulavuta> *piss*
20100820 17:48:44< Naeddyr> you weren't taking a piss
20100820 17:48:45< Hulavuta> this is pretty bad bathroom
20100820 17:48:46< Naeddyr> i can tell
20100820 17:48:47< Hulavuta> eurasian
20100820 17:48:51< Naeddyr> because you'd have been out longer
20100820 17:48:59< Hulavuta> I pee really fast
20100820 17:49:07< Naeddyr> pics
20100820 17:49:11< Hulavuta> eww
20100820 17:49:17< Naeddyr> or it didn't happen
20100820 17:49:23< Hulavuta> No seriously, I was peeing
20100820 17:49:39< Naeddyr> yeah pff
20100820 17:49:46< Naeddyr> i know what you're up to
20100820 17:49:51< Naeddyr> you and your robot comrades
20100820 17:49:55< Hulavuta> -_-
20100820 17:50:44< Cookie> robot comrades, like whom??
20100820 17:50:59< Hulavuta> Cookie: Are you CookieBite from the forums?
20100820 17:51:34< Cookie> yeah sadly
20100820 17:51:36< Cookie> nice to met you?
20100820 17:51:44< Cookie> or either imma get lectured?
20100820 17:52:50< Cookie> okay then i get silence >.>
20100820 17:53:26< Naeddyr> we're looking through your post history
20100820 17:53:28< Naeddyr> ah here
20100820 17:53:56< Naeddyr> september 2009, in a post titled "i nvr get drunkk!!"
20100820 17:54:07< Cookie> oh thats not me
20100820 17:54:11< Naeddyr> you've posted some rather interesting photos
20100820 17:54:37< Cookie> :L Cookie was someone else who got the name before me Forum and server name is CookieBite
20100820 17:55:03< Naeddyr> this post was posted under CookieBites :o
20100820 17:55:07< hylje> embarrassing internet digging
20100820 17:55:12< Hulavuta> So you are Cookiebite? I'm just wondering
20100820 17:55:19< Hulavuta> I'm not an admin or a mod so I can't do anything
20100820 17:55:38< Naeddyr> i'm kidding
20100820 17:55:41< hylje> anyway welcome to the irc where all the cool people hang
20100820 17:55:42< Cookie> np, i didnt mean to post anything bad anyways :S
20100820 17:55:45< Naeddyr> i haven't actually bothered to go through your posts
20100820 17:55:53< Hulavuta> ANSWER ME OR DIE! (please)
20100820 17:57:18< Cookie> oh and what me and tyler said on the forum is how we communicate, even on the server
20100820 17:57:18< Naeddyr> now you scared him away
20100820 17:57:34< Hulavuta> who him?
20100820 17:57:37< Cookie> didnt mean to get the "camwhore" description going by that or the pic
20100820 17:57:44< Cookie> its in the threadd :)
20100820 17:57:56< Cookie> ooh and hello Gambit if your alivee :)
20100820 17:58:27< Gambit> Hi
20100820 17:59:18< Cookie> ooh soo you aree :)
20100820 17:59:22 * Gambit was hiding in the corner trying to figure out why people are stalking you
20100820 17:59:46< Cookie> xD its worse on the server but nevermind :)
20100820 17:59:59 * Cookie wonders why Gambit never agrees to play a game on the server!
20100820 18:00:22< Cookie> and you just disappeared last time *sigh*
20100820 18:01:37< Naeddyr> i don't like playing multiplayed because you can't savescum
20100820 18:01:47< Naeddyr> multiplayer*
20100820 18:01:48< Gambit> Naeddyr: But you miss out.
20100820 18:01:57< Naeddyr> that was a joke
20100820 18:01:58< Gambit> all the best WML works of our generation are in multiplayer
20100820 18:02:07< Gambit> and by generation I mean 1.6->1.8
20100820 18:02:23< Naeddyr> i'm not interested in WML per se
20100820 18:02:52< Cookie> lol, at least he wont get addicted
20100820 18:02:55< Gambit> I do kind of wonder why nobody ever does interesting things in SP
20100820 18:03:04< Gambit> The last thing I can recall is Brent
20100820 18:03:10< Gambit> and it hasn't been updated in a while
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20100820 18:04:23< Cookie> once you explain what SP is then, perhaps i MIGHT understand
20100820 18:04:30< Gambit> single player
20100820 18:04:40< Gambit> campaigns
20100820 18:04:47< Gambit> or even just one player scenarios
20100820 18:04:53< Hulavuta> Because they're just campaigns, I guess
20100820 18:04:59< Gambit> Hulavuta: But they don't have to be.
20100820 18:05:04< Hulavuta> But they are
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20100820 18:05:15< Hulavuta> Isn't artisticdude still working on Vix?
20100820 18:05:22< Hulavuta> Vix has some pretty crazy stuff
20100820 18:05:47< Gambit> Yes! That had some new gameplay ideas.
20100820 18:05:57< Hulavuta> Too bad it was abandoned
20100820 18:05:59< Gambit> But they were each locked in a scenario
20100820 18:06:42< Gambit> There wasn't anything outside-the-box gameplay feature that was permeated throughout
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20100820 18:07:21< Gambit> See: UtBS
20100820 18:07:34< Hulavuta> What's the big deal with UtBS?
20100820 18:07:43< Gambit> It's abnormal
20100820 18:07:46< Hulavuta> "UTBS IS SO AWESOME" "I LOVE UTBS" "ALL MY BABIES TO UTBS"
20100820 18:07:59< hylje> what's utbs
20100820 18:08:03< Cookie> lol
20100820 18:08:06< Gambit> Under the Burning Suns
20100820 18:08:11< Gambit> Oh ninja'd
20100820 18:08:13< Gambit> Hulavuta: :P
20100820 18:08:24< Cookie> who said "all my babies to UTBS" :L
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20100820 18:08:43< Hulavuta> Cookie: I'm just exaggerating
20100820 18:08:44< Cookie> or are they yours Oo
20100820 18:08:53< Cookie> realised :D
20100820 18:09:18< Gambit> Actually... through some crazy thought tangent and some acid one might consider shadowmaster to have given UtBS some babies.
20100820 18:09:35< Gambit> But in normalworld we call those sequels.
20100820 18:09:39< Cookie> LOL perhaps there might be a wiki on that
20100820 18:09:44< Hulavuta> Anyway, what was so odd about UTBS?
20100820 18:09:57< Gambit> Hulavuta: The weird day/night. Taking heat damage.
20100820 18:10:11< Hulavuta> Vix has/will have the same stuff
20100820 18:10:42< Hulavuta> If he doesn't abandon it
20100820 18:11:43< Gambit> I'd like to see that dynamic mist system in more use
20100820 18:11:56-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth
20100820 18:12:03< Gambit> Especially with all the oceanic/coastal scenarios he was planning.
20100820 18:12:09< Gambit> s/dynamic/chronic/ ?
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20100820 18:13:23< Hulavuta> IMO Multiplayer UMC should focus on original stuff
20100820 18:13:31< Hulavuta> and UMC Campaigns should be more storyis
20100820 18:13:33< Hulavuta> *storyish
20100820 18:13:41< Hulavuta> Which is what I'm *trying* to do...
20100820 18:15:47< Hulavuta> anyway, I'm going camping
20100820 18:15:48< Hulavuta> bye
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20100820 20:30:41< Naeddyr> i have made pretty piccies!
20100820 20:30:49< Naeddyr> ^_^ yay~
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20100820 20:36:04< Dragoth_jpn> good Evening.
20100820 20:36:11< Naeddyr> evening
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20100820 21:49:43< Naeddyr> dammit
20100820 21:49:54< Naeddyr> "KISS", my ass.
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20100820 22:02:04< shadowmaster> Rhonda: my bot isn't really "wasted time" for me. I wouldn't have decided to learn Perl otherwise.
20100820 22:08:47< hylje> lol perl
20100820 22:11:24< shadowmaster> lol bias
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20100820 22:31:55< dta2> Heya, noy, what's up? Care to chat, man?
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20100820 22:48:14< shadowmaster> uname -a
20100820 22:48:23< shadowmaster> wrong window
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20100820 22:55:37< dta2> John Richbourg?
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20100820 23:04:18< Rhonda> lol chatslang nerd
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20100820 23:06:00< dta2> Rhonda, Hey there.
20100820 23:07:15< shadowmaster> do you really need to poke every single person that joins/speaks?
20100820 23:07:35< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Poke?
20100820 23:07:41< shadowmaster> hilight
20100820 23:08:06< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Just being friendly, sorry if to bothers you. :)
20100820 23:08:35< shadowmaster> it tends to bother other people.
20100820 23:08:44< shadowmaster> namely those who are being hilighted.
20100820 23:08:55< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Then I will cease my greetings of people.
20100820 23:12:16< Rhonda> shadowmaster: Right. Still would like to merge at some point. :)
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