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20100822 07:21:39< dta2> This channel seems so dead, yet so full.
20100822 07:22:19< sevis> Say something controversial about technology/software?
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20100822 07:22:42< dta2> IPV4 is a horrible protocol?
20100822 07:23:20< dta2> Oh, that isn't controversial. :)
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20100822 07:24:26< dta2> What do you gentlemen think about 4chan?
20100822 07:24:51< dta2> I think it's a pretty cool site, they aren't afraid to speak their minds.
20100822 07:24:56< sevis> Good source of wallpapers/scenic pictures.
20100822 07:24:59< R4SP> It's a bad scene, it ruins people and lives.
20100822 07:25:28< dta2> Yea, it can be a little harsh.
20100822 07:25:56< dta2> But, I think it just teaches people how to express their thoughts, and not be afraid of authority.
20100822 07:26:14< dta2> So, it's a good life lession, not letting other people think for you.
20100822 07:27:11< R4SP> Some people get intoxicated with that feeling and spend their time intentionally causing a scene just to be anti though.
20100822 07:27:38< dta2> R4SP, That's true, rules aren't made to be broken. But, it's important to question them.
20100822 07:28:01< dta2> It's important change the things that need changed.
20100822 07:28:14< R4SP> But not to change rules just to have changed them.
20100822 07:28:20< YB-Betacrow> What are you guys' opinions on the legalization of Marijuana and other drugs?
20100822 07:28:39< dta2> I think one of the things that needs changed around here is, the premise on which mods can ban.
20100822 07:29:07< dta2> Has anyone in here been banned by a mod?
20100822 07:29:24< dta2> If you haven't it's ok to participate too. I don't think they can ban for that, yet.
20100822 07:30:27< dta2> Are all Wesnoth players sheep? Do they not want to question the injustice? The abuse of power that the mods display?
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20100822 07:31:46< R4SP> Yes.
20100822 07:37:59< Dragoth_jpn> ahhhhhhh.....
20100822 07:38:24< Dragoth_jpn> 1.90 is crushing....
20100822 07:40:54< Cookie> ehy Dragoth_jpn?
20100822 07:41:49< Cookie> why*
20100822 07:42:22< Dragoth_jpn> i'm Scenario playing.... it is $B!V(BError Message c++$B!A!W(B
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20100822 07:43:01< R4SP> That was a little garbled.
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20100822 07:56:38< dta2> Hey noy. :)
20100822 07:56:45< Dragoth_jpn> sup
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20100822 07:57:54< dta2> So, noy, bro, it'd be cool if you could pm me, or answer me on the forums. I'd like to discuss a permanent  ban for general discussion in the lobby. :)
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20100822 07:58:49< shadowmaster> dta2: did you PM him in the first place?
20100822 07:59:02< dta2> shadowm_laptop, I am talking with noy.
20100822 07:59:07< shadowmaster> ah, okay
20100822 07:59:18< dta2> shadowm_laptop, Thanks for you concern.
20100822 08:00:01< CookieBite> hey shadowmaster ;D
20100822 08:00:34< shadowmaster> hi CookieBite 
20100822 08:01:08< YB-Betacrow> Hey cookie, shadow.
20100822 08:01:21< CookieBite> how are you today shadowmaster?
20100822 08:01:30< shadowmaster> backache
20100822 08:03:33< YB-Betacrow> I know what you mean, I've had a head/neckache most of the day.
20100822 08:03:35< CookieBite> o.O  get a message?
20100822 08:03:54< R4SP> neckrolls.
20100822 08:04:27< CookieBite> get people to walk on you ^^
20100822 08:04:35< dta2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
20100822 08:04:38 * dta2 rickrolls
20100822 08:07:20< joo> You just defeated the entire purpose of rickrolling
20100822 08:07:33< dta2> Did you click it?
20100822 08:07:44< dta2> And, you mean joo just defeated?*
20100822 08:08:02< joo> I clicked it, wondering if it was a rickroll or not
20100822 08:08:08< joo> but I wasn't surprised at all that it was
20100822 08:08:12< dta2> So, it was a trick rickroll.
20100822 08:08:21< dta2> But, you clicked.
20100822 08:08:24< joo> A trickroll, if you will
20100822 08:08:26< dta2> XD
20100822 08:08:34< dta2> Ahh, the trickroll.
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20100822 08:12:50 * shadowmaster pokes wesnoth.org
20100822 08:13:23< shadowmaster> oh no.
20100822 08:15:47< CookieBite> :OOO
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20100822 10:13:04< Ivanovic> moin
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20100822 11:28:55< G-Lo> is there an alternate server adress ?
20100822 11:29:08< G-Lo> *an "official" alternate...
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20100822 11:33:59< Ivanovic> sure
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20100822 11:34:28< G-Lo> nervermind, i can connect again to the official one now
20100822 11:34:34< G-Lo> thanks, anyway
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20100822 14:05:10< Gambit> Awww man someone broke lua-users.org
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20100822 15:00:49< R4SP>  /DCC SEND This is a test.
20100822 15:00:52< R4SP> hrm
20100822 15:00:56< R4SP> oh
20100822 15:01:14< R4SP> wrong channel that.
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20100822 18:32:28< G-Lo> hi all, is there a command to make another player host in a game?
20100822 18:32:41< Soliton> no.
20100822 18:32:50< G-Lo> all i have to do is leaving the game?
20100822 18:32:57< G-Lo> no other way?
20100822 18:33:03< Soliton> yes.
20100822 18:34:44< G-Lo> thx
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20100822 20:25:42< artisticdude> Oh crap.
20100822 20:26:11< artisticdude> Since I got my blue name I've had 3 PMs asking for UMC art.
20100822 20:26:44< Gambit> artisticdude: On the upside, your blue name does come with UMC author repellent.
20100822 20:26:56< Gambit> Aim for the eyes.
20100822 20:27:00< artisticdude> XD
20100822 20:27:31< artisticdude> Well, I said I'd work on their projects if I ever get some spare time, but that most of my time will be taken up with the mainline projects I have lined up.
20100822 20:27:51< Gambit> No don't do that. You've got to be firm!
20100822 20:28:05< Gambit> We will eat you alive.
20100822 20:28:16< artisticdude> Well, they were all requests from friends, so...
20100822 20:28:34< artisticdude> If they were from someone I didn't know that well, I'd definitely turn it down.
20100822 20:28:57< Gambit> [14:28:05] <Gambit> We will eat you alive.
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20100822 20:29:48< artisticdude> Well, I'm definitely not going to do anything until I get this merman warrior's south attack animation finished >.<
20100822 20:30:11< Gambit> artisticdude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weBu7PbS4g8
20100822 20:30:14< Gambit> skip to 4:10
20100822 20:30:15< artisticdude> Dang south-facing perspective.
20100822 20:30:24< Gambit> 4:10 - 5:00
20100822 20:30:25< Gambit> :)
20100822 20:30:57< artisticdude> Lol.
20100822 20:31:24< Gambit> If we corner you in an alley and ask for a sprite.
20100822 20:31:27< Gambit> Well now you know!
20100822 20:31:27< shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100822 20:32:04< artisticdude> Which is why I live in a rural area... very few alleys. ;)
20100822 20:32:19< artisticdude> And satellite internet. >.<
20100822 20:32:25< Gambit> Oh... now I know!
20100822 20:32:25< shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100822 20:33:47< artisticdude> I should really download 1.9 tonight.
20100822 20:34:01< artisticdude> I really want to check out the art improvements.
20100822 20:34:03< Gambit> Yes. Everyone should.
20100822 20:34:46< artisticdude> I would have done it last night, but I've been staying up late to post on the forums for several weeks now, so I needed a proper night's sleep.
20100822 20:34:55< Gambit> I think after 1.9.1 I will make a copy of SX that uses persistence.
20100822 20:35:42< artisticdude> I love the idea of persistent variables. I could do all sorts of cool things with that.
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20100822 20:38:00< artisticdude> Although my merman animation didn't get finished in time for 1.9.0 :(
20100822 20:39:05< artisticdude> (although I just copied the unit's .cfg from trunk and backported it to 1.8 :P)
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20100822 21:10:31< zookeeper> i wonder why i seem to be the only one who's _not_ excited about persistent variables
20100822 21:11:20< Gambit> zookeeper: Because you don't make enough multiplayer add-ons?
20100822 21:11:43< zookeeper> not that i can't see uses for it, but those are mostly things like saving common settings, like your favourite PYRE picks or character generation stuff in RPGs
20100822 21:12:58< Gambit> Through some incredibly complex combination of [set_variables] and [insert_wml] an in game scenario creator could be made.
20100822 21:13:11< Gambit> *insert tag
20100822 21:13:26< zookeeper> yeah, kinda, but that's not very practical
20100822 21:14:51< Gambit> A version of wesball that allows you to train your team
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20100822 21:15:38< zookeeper> "train" meaning what? make a high-level team so no one with a worse team wants to play with you? :s
20100822 21:15:53< Gambit> zookeeper: Well like human football teams there would be maximums
20100822 21:16:20< zookeeper> ok, but how is that then different from just getting to pick your team freely at the beginning?
20100822 21:16:28< Gambit> I meant more along the lines of specializing particular players
20100822 21:16:45< Gambit> zookeeper: Time
20100822 21:16:52< Gambit> zookeeper: Also with persistent units comes trading
20100822 21:17:02< Gambit> Wasn't someone trying to make a TCG era?
20100822 21:17:20< Gambit> He was nowhere near skilled enough to do it IIRC, but someone could.
20100822 21:18:00< Gambit> That'd be sweet...
20100822 21:18:03< Gambit> random boosters for the winner
20100822 21:18:08< Gambit> Everyone starts with the same starter deck.
20100822 21:18:26< zookeeper> time meaning that if you want a team with a quick royal guard, you have to grind a couple local games first to get it, instead of just picking it from a menu when the game starts?
20100822 21:18:26 * Gambit twitches; really wanting to go start on that
20100822 21:18:47< Gambit> zookeeper: Yeah I wasn' thinking advancements like that.
20100822 21:18:49< zookeeper> i still don't really see it
20100822 21:19:06< Gambit> I was thinking: This spearman is faster because he's trained speed a lot, but now he deals less damage
20100822 21:19:21< zookeeper> okay..
20100822 21:21:16< Gambit> This bowman has taken a lot of damage without dying. He's bulked up. +1% defense on all terrains
20100822 21:21:40< Gambit> OH darn my mage died. He's going to be injured an usable for a whole two games!
20100822 21:21:46< Gambit> *unusable
20100822 21:22:17< zookeeper> (unless i cheat)
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20100822 21:24:01< Gambit> zookeeper: Yeah I'm going to beg for an encrypt = yes
20100822 21:24:05< Gambit> * = bool
20100822 21:24:12< Gambit> And if that doesn't work I will try to add it myself
20100822 21:24:15< zookeeper> if you want to prevent it from becoming a contest of who can grind the strongest team for themselves (or cheat), then all the customizations or changes which happen need to be balanced, at which point i'd rather just choose them instead of having to grind to make the kind of team i want.
20100822 21:24:19< Gambit> And if that doesn't work I'll do it in WML
20100822 21:25:17< Gambit> I could probably make a lua [encrypt] tag even that scrambled the value of a local variable
20100822 21:25:22< Gambit> And then you could set it to a globa
20100822 21:27:37< Soliton> for any encrypt you need a decrypt that is publicly available...
20100822 21:29:16< Gambit> Soliton: Right
20100822 21:29:30< Gambit> The key will be to make it such a pain in the ass that no cheater will want to deal with it.
20100822 21:29:59< Gambit> Of course...
20100822 21:30:11< Gambit> they could just load and decrypt in another add-on...
20100822 21:30:25< Gambit> In fact it'd be trivial to make an add-on specifically for cheating in other add-ons
20100822 21:30:31< Gambit> Well darn...
20100822 21:31:19< Soliton> security through obscurity just doesn't work. especially in an open source project.
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20100822 21:32:14< Gambit> Well it'd it least rule out regular joes armed purely with text editors
20100822 21:35:12< Darker_Dreams> I'm just thinking here, but I'm not sure that "regular joes armed with the game they are trying to cheat in, which the only part they need to modify only requires a text editor" is really ruling out "regular joes armed purely with text editors" in any meaningful sense.
20100822 21:35:53< Gambit> Darker_Dreams: Cheating would then require both a text editor AND some basic WML knowledge
20100822 21:36:06< Gambit> Note the adjective "purely"
20100822 21:36:20< Soliton> just randomly change the encrypted string and hope for the best!
20100822 21:36:40< Gambit> Well it'd require one person with a text editor and some basic WML knowledge to publish a cheating add-on
20100822 21:36:48< Darker_Dreams> Gambit: as opposed to a text editor and some basic understanding of the savegame structure?
20100822 21:37:37< Gambit> The savegame structure is WML
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20100822 21:38:09< Darker_Dreams> I'm not sure how practical it is with something like Wesnoth, but don't most MMOGs keep the "real" character information on their own servers for exactly this reason?
20100822 21:39:12< Gambit> Well that's not an option here [yet]
20100822 21:39:35< Darker_Dreams> right, that would be the practical concern.
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