--- Log opened Fri Sep 03 00:00:23 2010 20100903 00:09:58-!- Greywhind [~Greywhind@harkness-49.resnet.brown.edu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20100903 00:12:25< alink> zookeeper: nice idea, but using the terrain doesn't improve the random seed, because terrain directly depend of location and we already use location in the formula 20100903 00:13:23< boucman> night all 20100903 00:13:32-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100903 00:14:48< alink> Also, it's maybe very important but we want several different random number on the same hex, because we apply several rules on it. For example, we don't want to have the same random pattern in base and overlay 20100903 00:16:07< alink> (even if they need to use similar probability distribution and number of images to make this a problem) 20100903 00:16:58< alink> * not very important 20100903 00:17:30< alink> it's not my day with words today, I go back to code 20100903 00:21:10-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 00:21:33-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-103-91-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 00:21:33-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-103-91-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 20100903 00:21:33-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 00:25:13< CIA-35> alink * r46228 /trunk/src/ (builder.cpp builder.hpp): 20100903 00:25:13< CIA-35> Use 100 as default for terrain probability as specified in wiki. 20100903 00:25:13< CIA-35> This spare a lot of calls to the RNG because c++ code used -1 as 'no probability'(=100%), but WML macros use 100 20100903 00:26:29-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 00:27:13-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100903 00:35:18-!- ekki_ [~chatzilla@chello085216211131.chello.sk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158]] 20100903 00:42:18-!- Blueblaze2 [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-171-160-84.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 00:42:35-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-146-153.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20100903 00:42:35-!- Blueblaze2 is now known as Blueblaze 20100903 00:47:56-!- billynux [~billy@wesnoth/developer/billynux] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 00:48:02< billynux> hi all, Soliton, around? 20100903 00:50:27< billynux> Ivanovic, around? 20100903 00:55:55-!- _jbx_ [~jbailey@12.190.80.225] has quit [Quit: Home. Home again.] 20100903 00:59:47-!- Upth [~ogmar@71-215-130-113.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 00:59:47-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20100903 01:00:24-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@225.189.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 01:00:43-!- billynux [~billy@wesnoth/developer/billynux] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100903 01:02:53< CIA-35> anonymissimus * r46229 /trunk/src/actions.cpp: Applied my patch for bug #16604: "Ambushed!" message cannot be changed 20100903 01:04:45-!- billynux [~billy@wesnoth/developer/billynux] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 01:13:39-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-171-160-84.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20100903 01:14:46< fendrin> alink: /home/fabi/wesnoth_develop is a symlink to /usr/local/wesnoth_develop 20100903 01:14:47< anonymissimus> how does one usually do the "backport from trunk" thing when fixing a bug ? 20100903 01:14:59< fendrin> alink: So I am sure that the right datafolder is used. 20100903 01:19:56< alink> fendrin: ok, it works here and I sill don't see any "void" (instead of "void/void") in trunk other than the ones that I pointed to you, but I recheck 20100903 01:20:17-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 01:22:19< alink> anonymissimus: if you mean backport it to 1.8, then you need a 1.8 checkout. If you only have a checkout of trunk and not all wesnoth, then you need to checkout 1.8 too (in an other place, and keep it since it's often needed) 20100903 01:22:45< anonymissimus> yes I have a 1.8 checkout 20100903 01:22:58< anonymissimus> and thanks I think I've found it out 20100903 01:24:04< CIA-35> espreon * r46230 /trunk/ (114 files in 5 dirs): Added some pofix rules for quote conversions and spacing fixes. 20100903 01:24:17< alink> anonymissimus: ok, and of course, don't forget that the code may have changed a little around the area of your bugfix, so recheck things 20100903 01:24:47< anonymissimus> hm 20100903 01:24:48-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@71-215-130-113.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100903 01:26:25-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 01:27:09< CIA-35> espreon * r46231 /trunk/po/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Applied new/uncommented pofix rules to the pot files. 20100903 01:32:52-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 01:33:57-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-103-91-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 01:34:08-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-103-91-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 20100903 01:34:08-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 01:37:31-!- Upth [~ogmar@66.6.147.92] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 01:37:31-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20100903 01:38:04-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@66.6.147.92] has quit [Client Quit] 20100903 01:47:54< CIA-35> anonymissimus * r46232 /branches/1.8/src/actions.cpp: Applied my patch for bug #16604: "Ambushed!" message cannot be changed. Backported from trunk. 20100903 01:56:09< Simons_Mith> @Ivanovic: Bad news, Espreon's just given me the go-ahead to start apostrohe work on /core :-) 20100903 01:58:01-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 02:04:26-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 02:06:09< shadowmaster> Gambit: do you want to have all DW threads assigned to you? 20100903 02:06:37< Gambit> Uh. sure. 20100903 02:07:11< eleazzaar> i've discovered another issue with the terrain combos 20100903 02:07:55< eleazzaar> triple terrains aren't reported by the game correctly 20100903 02:08:08-!- fangism1 [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 02:08:09< eleazzaar> i.e. forest on snow hills 20100903 02:08:19-!- crimson__ [~irchon@64.201.60.211] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 02:08:42< eleazzaar> the bit in parenthesis only ever lists 2 items 20100903 02:10:08-!- fangism [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100903 02:10:16< Gambit> So it looks like the main thing with DW is not making the enemy capturing villages and getting free recruits so shocking 20100903 02:12:19< anonymissimus> just for the record, I like the old titlescreen better too :P 20100903 02:12:53< anonymissimus> apart from the bugs 20100903 02:14:37-!- crimson__ [~irchon@64.201.60.211] has quit [Quit: crimson__] 20100903 02:15:07-!- crimson__ [~irchon@64.201.60.211] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 02:19:51-!- crimson__ [~irchon@64.201.60.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 02:22:56< shadowmaster> shikadibot: repo 20100903 02:22:56< shikadibot> Repository URI: http://svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth 20100903 02:26:16< CIA-35> eleazar * r46233 /trunk/data/core/terrain.cfg: 20100903 02:26:16< CIA-35> further clean up of terrain names, so that there's less 'flat (flat)' type 20100903 02:26:16< CIA-35> redundancy. Some triple combo terrains will display oddly which illustrates the 20100903 02:26:16< CIA-35> brokeness of the current system. Village on snow hills should report it's 20100903 02:26:16< CIA-35> aliases as (snow, hills, village), but it will only list the two most immediate 20100903 02:26:16< CIA-35> names in the tree of aliases. 20100903 02:29:06-!- crimson__ [~irchon@64.201.60.211] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 02:32:36< shadowmaster> I should just ban all *homework*@* addresses 20100903 02:32:45< shadowmaster> and *@*homework* 20100903 02:33:02< shadowmaster> no, I'm not being completely serious. 20100903 02:33:21< Gambit> But that's not the first time that website has come up. 20100903 02:33:29< shadowmaster> I know 20100903 02:33:33< shadowmaster> so I'll ban them 20100903 02:34:41< shadowmaster> "E-mail address pattern used by spambots. If you think this is a mistake, please drop an email to forums@wesnoth.org. Thanks." 20100903 02:35:20-!- crimson__ [~irchon@64.201.60.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 02:36:40< shadowmaster> okay, I'll try with just *homework*@gmail.com 20100903 02:37:05< Simons_Mith> In a few years time, the bots may have advanced sufficiently that they can reply convincingly to these scams and waste the perpetrators enormous amounts of time trying to follow up non-existent sales leads. 20100903 02:37:34< shadowmaster> it's not so much the spam that annoys me. 20100903 02:37:52< Simons_Mith> Turnabout would be fair play, I'd say. 20100903 02:38:03< shadowmaster> but the incredibly moronic attempts at scamming people with what appears to be some kind of "free homework resolving" service 20100903 02:38:29< shadowmaster> the really bad thing is that I know people at my uni who make homework for others, for money 20100903 02:38:44< shadowmaster> that really makes me even more angry about it 20100903 02:39:08< Gambit> I would have no problem being "that guy" (the guy that turns them in I mean) 20100903 02:39:20< Simons_Mith> Hear hear. Who wants to be treated by, say a nurse who paid someone else to do those difficult studies for her. 20100903 02:39:49< shadowmaster> nobody 20100903 02:39:58< shadowmaster> but most won't find it out 20100903 02:40:12< shadowmaster> heck, I mean all 20100903 02:41:53< shadowmaster> I mean hell, I have really bad grades and I'm struggling to progress with my studies while coping with a depression and my BfW work. 20100903 02:41:55< CIA-35> anonymissimus * r46234 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Fixed infinite loop in [have_unit]search_recall_list=yes if there is more than 1 unit in the recall list. 20100903 02:42:04< shadowmaster> and yet, I'd never go so down as to cheat in my studies. 20100903 02:42:53-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-007-247.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316074819]] 20100903 02:47:38-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [~eli@71-10-224-192.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100903 03:05:50-!- happygrue [~quassel@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 03:20:42-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz] 20100903 03:28:40-!- Simons_Mith [524536cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.69.54.207] has quit [] 20100903 03:31:31-!- joo|sleep [~joo@unaffiliated/joo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100903 03:35:36-!- joo [~joo@unaffiliated/joo] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 03:54:44-!- DesertPanther [~Khalid@unaffiliated/desertpanther] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100903 04:04:10-!- ancestral [~ancestral@174-20-107-107.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 04:05:14-!- alink [~alink@wesnoth/developer/alink] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 04:05:19-!- un214 [~quassel@adsl-75-45-0-228.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 04:10:37-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 04:11:18-!- Espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 04:12:34-!- Espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 04:27:14-!- ancestral [~ancestral@174-20-107-107.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Smell ya later!] 20100903 04:34:54-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 04:34:54-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 04:34:54-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 04:35:58-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 04:35:58-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 04:35:58-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 04:37:20-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 04:37:20-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 04:37:21-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 04:41:58-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2fda8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 04:43:00-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 04:45:08-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-148-244-75.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 04:45:38-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100903 04:45:56-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20100903 05:05:02-!- fangism [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 05:06:23-!- fangism1 [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100903 05:11:50< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: yeah, I was not informed of that back then. Now I am and I have posted a follow-up with the news 20100903 05:11:57< shadowmaster> and assigned the DW dev thread to him. 20100903 05:19:52< Gambit> You know... I should probably locate said thread. 20100903 05:20:27< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=31283 ? 20100903 05:21:35-!- Blueblaze2 [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-145-127.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 05:23:03-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-148-244-75.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100903 05:23:03-!- Blueblaze2 is now known as Blueblaze 20100903 05:25:48-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 05:25:52-!- Gambit [~Gambit@unaffiliated/gambit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 05:29:38-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Carneus 20100903 05:37:55-!- Carneus [~Carneus@carneus.tontut.fi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 05:50:28-!- fangism1 [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 05:52:19-!- fangism [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100903 05:53:51-!- happygrue [~quassel@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20100903 05:56:22-!- un214 [~quassel@adsl-75-45-0-228.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 06:00:14< shadowmaster> eleazzaar: you double posted in mods 20100903 06:04:03-!- billynux [~billy@wesnoth/developer/billynux] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100903 06:04:32-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20100903 06:08:46-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 06:16:26-!- Greywhind [~Greywhind@harkness-49.resnet.brown.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 06:17:05-!- happygrue [~quassel@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 06:27:58-!- happygrue [~quassel@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20100903 06:40:56-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20100903 06:42:10-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-145-127.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20100903 06:47:36-!- silene [~plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 07:27:02-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100903 07:35:54-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 07:39:35-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 07:42:33-!- fangism [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 07:43:53-!- fangism1 [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100903 07:51:29< zookeeper> eleazzaar, hmm, _which_ forest on snow hills? the basic pine snow hills show up as (Snow Hills, Forest) to me, as do the deciduous and mixed forested snow hills 20100903 07:51:29-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 07:51:32-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 07:51:33< zookeeper> gah 20100903 07:51:44< zookeeper> good timing there... 20100903 07:51:46-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 07:52:05-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 07:53:29< zookeeper> eleazzaar, hmm, _which_ forest on snow hills? the basic pine snow hills show up as (Snow Hills, Forest) to me, as do the deciduous and mixed forested snow hills 20100903 07:53:30-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 07:53:33-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 07:53:33< zookeeper> argh! 20100903 07:54:18-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 07:54:18-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 07:54:18-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 08:00:11< shadowmaster> and why double z's anyway? 20100903 08:07:43-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@225.189.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 08:17:10-!- silene [~plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100903 08:18:05-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20100903 08:25:07-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 08:55:36-!- joo is now known as joo|afk 20100903 08:55:48-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Quit: bedtime] 20100903 09:04:50< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46235 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_South_Guard/maps/6b_The_Long_March.map: Reverted parts of r45710 which interfere with the path-seeking WML of the scenario. 20100903 09:05:42-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 09:05:42-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20100903 09:05:42-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 09:23:26-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100903 09:25:35< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46236 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_South_Guard/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Changed a few remaining green grass tiles to dry grass and fixed a little bridge glitch. 20100903 09:30:18< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46237 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/maps/Home_2.map: Removed a few remaining uses of the old Ggf flower terrain. 20100903 09:30:52-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 09:33:44-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 09:34:30-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 09:39:37< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46238 /trunk/data/multiplayer/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fixed a few remaining uses of the Ggf flower terrain in multiplayer maps. 20100903 09:40:04< fendrin> Okay, now I am angry. 20100903 09:40:18 * zookeeper wonders why 20100903 09:40:22< fendrin> I just hate that gui debug output that clutters my testing sessions. 20100903 09:41:19< fendrin> Always that bullshit with event and now that timer fuck. 20100903 09:41:46< zookeeper> angry, huh? i can tell ;) 20100903 09:42:57< fendrin> It's just ruthless to leave debug output lying around for ages. 20100903 09:43:28< fendrin> mordante: ^ 20100903 09:44:28< shadowmaster> fendrin: what do you need to log? 20100903 09:44:46-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 09:45:21< shadowmaster> you could just exclude log domains you don't want using the command-line-switch-which-I-forgot-but-is-in-the-[--help]-output-anyway 20100903 09:45:53< shadowmaster> unless that debug stuff isn't using any log domain and it's being directly spit to stderr, which would be terrible. 20100903 09:46:03< fendrin> shadowmaster: Maybe. But that switch can guard the gui output as well. I don't want to do fancy stuff, I want the output to vanish. 20100903 09:46:14-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2fda8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20100903 09:46:14-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 09:47:17< Ivanovic> moin 20100903 09:48:20< shadowmaster> moan 20100903 09:48:27< shadowmaster> this headache is killing me 20100903 09:53:51-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 09:53:51-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20100903 09:53:51-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 09:54:07< fendrin> shadowmaster: Okay, I think I have calmed down a bit. I need to output what happened with the persistent variables and I am thinking about the best way. 20100903 09:55:01< fendrin> shadowmaster: I know two ways to debug output wml stuff: #ifdef DEBUG_MODE [message] and the [debug_message] thing. 20100903 09:55:21< shadowmaster> you mean [wml_message] I believe 20100903 09:55:31< shadowmaster> unless that's something new 20100903 09:55:40< fendrin> shadowmaster: yes 20100903 09:55:55< fendrin> [wml_message] was never my friend. 20100903 09:56:06 * shadowmaster *heart cracks* 20100903 09:56:54< fendrin> Sorry, I don't get that statement. Are you seriously ill? 20100903 09:56:56< shadowmaster> my poor, dear [wml_message]! underappreciated as it is, abandoned in the world. omg what have I done wrong with you? there was anything I didn't teach you? 20100903 09:56:58-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 09:57:03< shadowmaster> fendrin: no, just acting. 20100903 09:57:12< fendrin> Ah okay. 20100903 09:57:15< zookeeper> i don't need no [wml_message] when i got DEBUG_MSG :P 20100903 09:57:18< shadowmaster> if I had a heart attack I'd simply be unable to type, don't you think :p 20100903 09:57:33< fendrin> zookeeper: DEBUG_MSG is a wrapper around it? 20100903 09:57:40< shadowmaster> no 20100903 09:57:52< shadowmaster> it's around [message] IIRC. 20100903 09:57:55< zookeeper> yeah 20100903 09:58:12-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 09:58:12-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20100903 09:58:12-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 09:58:23< fendrin> zookeeper: Looking into it. 20100903 09:59:24 * zookeeper blinks 20100903 09:59:27< zookeeper> you never used it? wow. 20100903 09:59:38< fendrin> I don't even get it. 20100903 10:00:06< fendrin> It is overwritten by an empty macro in the case you don't want to see output? 20100903 10:00:10< zookeeper> there's nothing to get 20100903 10:00:38< zookeeper> no, when i'm done writing my scenario or whatever, i just remove or comment out my DEBUG_MSG calls 20100903 10:01:05< fendrin> hmmm 20100903 10:01:12< fendrin> I think that is not what I am looking for. 20100903 10:01:30< fendrin> I think I will go with [wml_message] somehow. 20100903 10:02:14< zookeeper> sure. all i was saying was that DEBUG_MSG is good enough for all my debug output needs. 20100903 10:02:17< shadowmaster> I usually don't use either anyway. I used saved games and [message]s that I'd rather remove 20100903 10:02:30< shadowmaster> just like I do with programs, really 20100903 10:04:33< fendrin> Well, most of the times I am acting like that as well. But sometimes I take the time to establish a debug facility or even try to have a working exception and testing system. 20100903 10:04:43< fendrin> It is time to do something like that to LoW. 20100903 10:05:31< shadowmaster> yeah 20100903 10:06:10< shadowmaster> I tend to focus on doing such failure-handlilng frameworks on my own programs. needless to say, it only serves for distarcting me since I have to implement the whiole thing from scratch 20100903 10:06:35< shadowmaster> i think my spelling and thinking is deteriorating past the critical limit. it's 04:06 am i'm going to sleep night 20100903 10:07:10< zookeeper> i just write WML with no bugs! 20100903 10:07:29< fendrin> rofl 20100903 10:07:44< fendrin> zookeeper: Good for you, did I ever mentioned that debugging wml is hell? 20100903 10:08:18< zookeeper> it is? 20100903 10:08:53< fendrin> No, I am just in a bad mood. Don't mind. 20100903 10:10:12< fendrin> shadowmaster: Please take another 5 mins to explain the wml_message to me. 20100903 10:10:25< shadowmaster> zookeeper: if you write WML with no bugs, how do you explain the existence of more than a half of the entires in http://tinyurl.com/3xf5ry3 ? :P 20100903 10:10:29< zookeeper> it's not hell, it's just...mysterious, sometimes ;) 20100903 10:10:37< fendrin> The output domain is always wml. 20100903 10:10:45< shadowmaster> fendrin: yes, that's intentional 20100903 10:10:54< fendrin> Fine, I can live with that. 20100903 10:11:02< fendrin> But what is logger? 20100903 10:11:11< zookeeper> shadowmaster, uh, i don't know...i guess someone else must have broken them ;) 20100903 10:12:13< zookeeper> now _this_ was one of the most genuinely mysterious bugs i had ever encountered (before silene explained it to me): http://gna.org/bugs/?16498 20100903 10:12:25< shadowmaster> fendrin: the log level I believe 20100903 10:12:34< shadowmaster> let me check 20100903 10:13:04< shadowmaster> i need to sleep. i thought i had seen "train-utils.cfg" in data/core/amacros 20100903 10:13:29< fendrin> shadowmaster: The --log-err=wml is the default that doesn't need to be triggered? 20100903 10:13:29< shadowmaster> fendrin: ah, logger is the log level (error, warning, info, debug) 20100903 10:14:08< shadowmaster> and the default level for any log domain is "error" unless overriden by a cmdline switch 20100903 10:14:13< shadowmaster> or possibly by some crazy developer hardcoding stuff 20100903 10:15:08-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@225.189.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 10:15:30< fendrin> shadowmaster: --debug does also trigger --log-debug=wml to be set? 20100903 10:16:10< shadowmaster> no 20100903 10:16:26< fendrin> shadowmaster: But that would be a nice feature, wouldn't it? 20100903 10:16:30< shadowmaster> it may have been a good idea, but I probably didn't do that for the sake of consistency with other log domains' behavior, which isnt modified by --debug 20100903 10:16:59< shadowmaster> either that or I just fell asleep while coding. you are welcome to fix that shrotcoming that steeesmfr ommy hesleep status 20100903 10:17:05< fendrin> shadowmaster: I think it is well in consistency since --debug is a pure wml only thing. 20100903 10:17:41< shadowmaster> i vaguely recall going to add more effects to --debug so that might have been one 20100903 10:21:13< Soliton> how is --debug a WML only thing? 20100903 10:22:15-!- joo|afk is now known as joo 20100903 10:24:27< shadowmaster> it isn't a wml thing at all 20100903 10:24:53< shadowmaster> it's just enabling debug commands in the game interface, and adding that peasant at work sign for missing images afai 20100903 10:25:07< shadowmaster> ..know. fendrin ^ 20100903 10:25:19< fendrin> shadowmaster: And it is setting #DEFINE DEBUG_MODE 20100903 10:25:34< shadowmaster> oh. not "only" anyway :) 20100903 10:26:30< fendrin> shadowmaster: Please point me to the c++ code where I can trigger the log thing for --debug. 20100903 10:26:35-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@76.202.18.24] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 10:26:38< fendrin> shadowmaster: Before you fall asleep. 20100903 10:26:54< shadowmaster> fendrin: I can't. I can barely open my eyes atm 20100903 10:27:09< fendrin> shadowmaster: Okay, have a fine sleep :-) 20100903 10:27:15< shadowmaster> you'd need to find the code processing "--debug" in game.cpp 20100903 10:27:33< shadowmaster> and then figure out how to switch log levels like the "--lg-iforgotwaht" switch does. 20100903 10:27:57< shadowmaster> that's really the only think i know without reading the code an dpotentially falling asleep on my laptop 20100903 10:28:26-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: night] 20100903 10:33:27-!- dtiger [~dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-91-149-132-70.telecom.by] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 10:33:51-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: this] 20100903 10:39:01-!- krotop [~kvirc@smj33-1-82-233-64-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 10:48:08-!- krotop [~kvirc@smj33-1-82-233-64-163.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 20100903 10:48:18-!- krotop [~kvirc@smj33-1-82-233-64-163.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 11:05:39-!- mysticX [nbcy@85.17.222.12] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100903 11:10:50-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 11:10:50-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 11:10:50-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 11:12:21-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 11:12:21-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 11:12:22-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 11:12:52-!- Crab_ [~Crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 11:12:54-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 11:13:13-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 11:14:13-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 11:14:13-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 11:14:13-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 11:15:11< Crab_> fendrin: about wml debugging, don't forget that you can use [inspect]name=foo[/inspect as a wml tag, that'll allow you to see the values of all the wml variables at a given point-of-execution 20100903 11:15:45< fendrin> Crab_: Ah yes. That will be useful. 20100903 11:16:17< Crab_> it might be a good thing to expand :inspect to show the values of persistent vars 20100903 11:19:16-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@76.202.18.24] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20100903 11:35:10-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 11:58:37-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 147 bugs, 296 feature requests, 14 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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I have first to load them into local vars? 20100903 14:09:31< Crab_> fendrin: as of you, right. but you can open the file on hdd 20100903 14:09:54< Crab_> as they are stored into files.. so, you can view current stoped values (taking the fact that the write is delayed into account) 20100903 14:10:04< Crab_> they're in your user profile dir 20100903 14:19:39-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 14:30:53< anonymissimus> may I ask why this bug http://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16111 isn't dealt with ? it has been mentioned several times in the forum now; is it hard to fix ? 20100903 14:35:08-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 14:35:08-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 14:35:09-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 14:36:25-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 14:36:25-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 14:36:25-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 14:37:18< Soliton> not a question that can usually be answered until you try. 20100903 14:37:18-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 14:37:26-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.234.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20100903 14:37:33-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 14:38:16-!- joo [~joo@unaffiliated/joo] has quit [Quit: Vroom vroom vroom!] 20100903 14:39:03< fendrin> Crab_: Yes, I have seen them on disk already. 20100903 14:39:03-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 14:39:13-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 14:41:03< anonymissimus> Soliton: well that bug has or seems to have relations to two other bugs, and even silene didn't fully understand the first one 20100903 14:43:57-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 14:44:03< Soliton> i guess you already assume it's hard to fix then. 20100903 14:45:00< Soliton> otherwise the bug is not assigned and no one made a comment so presumably no one looked closer... 20100903 14:49:47-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.234.80] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 15:05:35-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@225.189.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 15:27:13-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@225.189.60.213.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 15:34:43-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20100903 15:45:10< CIA-35> ivanovic * r46239 /trunk/po/wesnoth-thot/id.po: updated Indonesian translation 20100903 15:45:14< CIA-35> ivanovic * r46240 /branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-thot/id.po: updated Indonesian translation 20100903 15:47:35-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 15:49:37-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Client Quit] 20100903 15:59:44-!- Upth [~ogmar@97-126-59-100.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 15:59:44-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20100903 16:08:50-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20100903 16:19:12-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 16:23:00-!- billynux [~billy@wesnoth/developer/billynux] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 16:24:16-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 16:25:10< billynux> Soliton, around? 20100903 16:26:49 * Soliton nods. 20100903 16:27:34< billynux> Soliton, hi. Were you able to confirm if it was the same bug or not? 20100903 16:27:49< Soliton> read the bug report? :-P 20100903 16:28:00< Soliton> i already mentioned the revision in it. 20100903 16:28:16< Soliton> and i added another crash bt today. 20100903 16:28:41< Soliton> probably a different error though. 20100903 16:28:43< billynux> Soliton, you said "I'm not sure" 20100903 16:29:13< billynux> Soliton, that was you? How do I reproduce that bug? 20100903 16:29:15< Soliton> i said i'm not sure if it is uptodate enough since i don't monitor every commit. 20100903 16:29:57< Soliton> no idea. 20100903 16:30:23< Soliton> there is pretty much everything i know in the report. 20100903 16:30:48< billynux> ok 20100903 16:43:50-!- krotop [~kvirc@smj33-1-82-233-64-163.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20100903 16:47:00-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 16:47:58-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 16:47:58-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20100903 16:47:58-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 16:48:07-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 16:49:55-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 16:49:56-!- stikonas [~and@ctv-213-164-99-190.vinita.lt] has quit [Changing host] 20100903 16:49:56-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 16:54:16-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 16:58:40-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 17:04:48-!- wesbot_ [~wesbot@asteria.debian.or.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 17:05:19-!- wesbot [~wesbot@wesnoth/bot/wesbot] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20100903 17:05:19-!- isaac [~isaac@debian/developer/isaac] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20100903 17:05:23-!- Espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20100903 17:05:23-!- wesbot_ is now known as wesbot 20100903 17:05:26-!- Espreon [~espreon@83.149.110.34] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 17:05:45-!- isaac [~isaac@debian/developer/isaac] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 17:05:54-!- Espreon is now known as Guest76506 20100903 17:07:24-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 17:08:45-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-103-91-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 17:08:46-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-103-91-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 20100903 17:08:46-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 17:30:01-!- fangism1 [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 17:30:33-!- fangism [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20100903 17:36:38< anonymissimus> Gambit: btw nice indentation in your recent work :P :P 20100903 17:41:31-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20100903 17:43:15-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 17:44:13-!- silene [~plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 17:58:38-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 146 bugs, 296 feature requests, 14 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20100903 17:59:29-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@97-126-59-100.tukw.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20100903 18:00:50-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 18:00:50-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 18:00:50-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20100903 18:03:13-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20100903 18:03:47-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-221-223.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 18:08:50-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 18:17:54< Soliton> billynux: any reason you instist that the report for r46017 is a duplicate of bug #16502 which was fixed in r45943? 20100903 18:18:46< Soliton> billynux: btw, that "pure virtual method called" error probably means an object is used while it is being destroyed. 20100903 18:33:01-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 18:36:08-!- fangism [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 18:36:57-!- fangism1 [~davidfang@gilbert.achronix.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20100903 18:39:57< silene> Soliton: or when it is created 20100903 18:46:31< anonymissimus> zookeeper: yround ? 20100903 18:47:53-!- joo [~joo@unaffiliated/joo] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 18:58:55-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20100903 19:06:38< zookeeper> anonymissimus, not really...what do you need? 20100903 19:07:40< anonymissimus> wanted to ask about the "windows grep" your're using 20100903 19:07:40< Soliton> silene: yeah, i think that's less likely here though. 20100903 19:08:13< zookeeper> anonymissimus, ok, what about it? 20100903 19:08:33< anonymissimus> the 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zookeeper> eleazzaar, not yet 20100903 22:11:01< eleazzaar> zookeeper: why not? 20100903 22:11:30< zookeeper> that's been on my list for quite a while now, however the problem is this: to do that we need to make villages alias to village,base which means that "normal" villages would become aliased to flat,village, which screws up the defense values of bats 20100903 22:12:12< zookeeper> the plan is to give bats a "feral" trait which forces their defense to be only 40% in all villages regardless of base terrain, but it's not yet working well enough. silene said he'll be looking into it this weekend 20100903 22:12:38-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20100903 22:13:35< zookeeper> i'll be making that aliasing change immediately when we get the bats sorted out, after that we can start dropping the village terrains which are then redundant 20100903 22:13:55< eleazzaar> zookeeper: i don't see how that directly applies to what i've said 20100903 22:14:44 * zookeeper re-reads 20100903 22:14:52< eleazzaar> never mind, i see villages aren't working quite the way i thought 20100903 22:14:52< eleazzaar> ' 20100903 22:15:29-!- joo is now known as joo|sleep 20100903 22:16:14< eleazzaar> zookeeper: please let me know when you get that bat thing changed 20100903 22:16:22-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-007-247.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316074819]] 20100903 22:16:59< zookeeper> eleazzaar, yeah, sure thing 20100903 22:17:16< zookeeper> i'm really itching to get to make that change, i hate the huge palette of villages :x 20100903 22:18:02< eleazzaar> yeah, plus it easy to accidentally make villages behave in very confusing ways 20100903 22:19:39< zookeeper> yep 20100903 22:20:02< zookeeper> at last i can make a village on lava which aliases right \o/ 20100903 22:20:04< zookeeper> ... 20100903 22:20:13< eleazzaar> ;P 20100903 22:20:53< 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