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20100908 00:11:54< Ivanovic> Upth: don't forget to upload your code sample!
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20100908 08:05:22< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: have you had any input from the Spanish translation maintainer lately?
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20100908 08:06:20< shadowmaster> I see that the last update to trunk and 1.8 was on May 5 :/
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20100908 09:59:37< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46315 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/scenarios/09_The_Mage.cfg: Removed a few typoed and unnecessary keys.
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20100908 10:10:26< zookeeper> esr, http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=31502 seems like a job for you
20100908 10:11:48< esr> zookeeper: Yeah.  Just skimming the first bit that looks like pretty dam good writing.
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20100908 10:17:03< esr> The prose needs a bit of archaizing but the constructions is pretty sound.  I'll reply.
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20100908 10:34:40< Ivanovic> moin
20100908 10:35:27< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: no, there was nothing from the spanish translation for quite a while
20100908 10:36:25< Ivanovic> zookeeper: beetlenaut was the creator of dead water, right?
20100908 10:36:35< Ivanovic> he just applied for gna group membership
20100908 10:36:42< Ivanovic> no idea if he should get it or not
20100908 10:39:01< zookeeper> yes, he is
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20100908 10:39:50< zookeeper> IIRC back when DW was being prepped for mainlining, he was intending on possibly starting to maintainin it once 1.9.0 is out, or something along those lines.
20100908 10:40:24< Ivanovic> now gambit stepped up to maintain DW, too
20100908 10:40:33< Ivanovic> so what do you think i/we should do?
20100908 10:42:16< zookeeper> i guess i'd give him membership and see if he'll ask about svn access
20100908 10:42:31< zookeeper> or just ask him right away if he's intending on maintaining it
20100908 10:51:32< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46316 /trunk/data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/maps/ (4 files): Some aesthetic map tweaks to EI.
20100908 10:52:18< Ivanovic> membership *is* svn access
20100908 10:52:33< Ivanovic> his request message:
20100908 10:52:35< Ivanovic> This is beetlenaut. I would like to help maintain Dead Water when I have
20100908 10:52:36< Ivanovic> time.
20100908 10:53:16< zookeeper> oh, ok. sounds fine to me?
20100908 10:58:42< Ivanovic> okay, added him in
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20100908 11:30:12< Soliton> the more maintainers the better, especially if one of them knows how things were originally supposed to work. :-)
20100908 11:47:27< zookeeper> indeed
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20100908 13:22:52< esr> Ivanovic: beetlenaut seems to me to have clue.  If I'd been listening when you and zookeeper were discussing giving him access I'd have said +1.  Just so you know.
20100908 13:23:51< esr> And he did a *damn* fine job on DW.  Easiest mainline adaptation I've ever dome.
20100908 13:24:08< esr> s/dome/done/
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20100908 14:53:08 * shadowmaster throws an iPhone at esr.
20100908 14:53:20< shadowmaster> you aren't the one who dealt with some ridiculous WML mistakes prior to mainlining
20100908 14:53:33< shadowmaster> and had to merge unversioned changes after the mainlining
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20100908 15:25:42< fendrin> hi esr
20100908 15:27:12< fendrin> esr: Did you see the wmlscope error about using wrong keyword for x,y coordinates in a {UNIT} macro called from LoW?
20100908 15:27:27< shadowmaster> I forgot that turning off DNS caching at the university wifi is a horribly bad idea.
20100908 15:27:35< shadowmaster> wrong channel.
20100908 15:28:35< fendrin> esr: Wmlscope doesn't recognize x,y=recall, recall as valid macro arguments.
20100908 15:33:23< shadowmaster> doing a traceroute to my site only gives me "<number> * * *"
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20100908 15:33:54< shadowmaster> is that a symptom of some firewall or router filtering traceroute's stuff or what?
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20100908 15:35:04< shadowmaster> fendrin: your UtBS threads in Feedback will be transferred to the Content Feedback account
20100908 15:35:08< shadowmaster> fine with that?
20100908 15:36:51< fendrin> shadowmaster: Sigh. I asked you to take away my ownership of this thread exactly to be not bothered with questions regarding UtBS any longer. Ask Espreon for that. And please transfer the ownership of those threads.
20100908 15:37:05< shadowmaster> fendrin: no, this is part of a mass change
20100908 15:37:24< shadowmaster> the same will happen to DM and LoW
20100908 15:37:40< shadowmaster> assuming they are yours. I hope they exist, too.
20100908 15:38:29< shadowmaster> I'm still at the last page and the phpBB guys didn't help me with the overcomplicated SQL query spanning at least three different tables and two columsn on each one, to do a mass change
20100908 15:39:04< fendrin> shadowmaster: I have honestly the right to say no and stop a mass change?
20100908 15:39:12< shadowmaster> gah.
20100908 15:39:22< shadowmaster> that's why I asked yesterday if there was anyone against it.
20100908 15:39:23< shadowmaster> :(
20100908 15:39:54< fendrin> I am slightly amused :-)
20100908 15:40:00< shadowmaster> I'll do only the locked threads then.
20100908 15:41:02< fendrin> shadowmaster: Which threads do you mean exactly? Every utbs related thread anywhere? Or only the maintenance threads created by developers?
20100908 15:41:28< shadowmaster> only the Feedback threads in Mainline Blah Feedback
20100908 15:41:55< shadowmaster> (I'd appreciate it if people can make up their mind and decide whether Gambit or beetlenaut should own the main DW development thread btw)
20100908 15:42:59< fendrin> shadowmaster: So you consider a ownership change between Gambit and Beetlenaut but let me stick with the rotten utbs forever? How unfair.
20100908 15:43:22< Soliton> because of such back and forth i'd just always assign it to a/the special account.
20100908 15:44:09< shadowmaster> hey, Feedback threads' original posts are never edited. Development threads, on the other hand...
20100908 15:45:42< shadowmaster> now that I think of it, Developers can edit them anyway.
20100908 15:47:15< shadowmaster> I forgot they're moderators
20100908 15:48:00< fendrin> Soliton: Well, owning the thread of a campaign you maintain does have it's benefits. I use the thread ownership thing to keep track of news that are important to me. So it's nice for me to own LoW thread but not UtBS ones any longer.
20100908 15:48:51< fendrin> shadowmaster: Is there already some work done? Can I see how the new forum layout will be like?
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20100908 15:49:50< Soliton> fendrin: that just doesn't scale to more than one maintainer.
20100908 15:49:55< shadowmaster> fendrin: decide, you want to keep ownership of anything, or not?
20100908 15:50:13< shadowmaster> I already switched LoW's and UtBS' dev threads to the Development Team umbrella account
20100908 15:50:21< Soliton> as long as there is just one it's fine to leave it as is but for the future i wouldn't constantly switch owners back and forth.
20100908 15:50:44< shadowmaster> fendrin: and I believe taking a look at the new forum layout only takes reading the forums :)
20100908 15:51:21< shadowmaster> okay, you own the LoW dev thread again.
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20100908 15:53:23< fendrin> shadowmaster: Please give all scenario specific threads in mainline campaign feedback for utbs to "Development Team" as well.
20100908 15:53:33< shadowmaster> no, those go to Content Feedback
20100908 15:54:05< fendrin> shadowmaster: Content Feedback is a user? Not a subforum? 
20100908 15:54:08< shadowmaster> and that applies to every thread in Feedback - I think there's some confusion here regarding what I mean with "Feedback" and what I mean with "Development" :)
20100908 15:54:10< fendrin> I am confused.
20100908 15:54:17< shadowmaster> fendrin: it's an umbrella account just like Development Team
20100908 15:54:31< shadowmaster> belongs to the Forum Services hidden group
20100908 15:55:23< fendrin> shadowmaster: Very nice. It would be nice if I can be a team member of Feedback and see those threads in the "View your posts" page.
20100908 15:55:26< shadowmaster> this is it: Feedback threads -> "Content Feedback". Development threads -> "Development Team" when maintained by multiple/default people, or the current maintainer otherwise.
20100908 15:55:55< shadowmaster> fendrin: you can't :( there's no such a thing as team members here, hence "account".
20100908 15:56:06< fendrin> I see.
20100908 15:56:19< shadowmaster> and there are e-mail and Atom feed subscriptions too.
20100908 15:56:26< Soliton> maybe there should be a subforum for every mainline campaign feedback? then you could subscribe to that forum as a whole and en/disable the forum when a campaign gets added/removed.
20100908 15:56:28< shadowmaster> those can be used by any user
20100908 15:57:54< shadowmaster> Soliton: makes sense. I proposed that circa 2009. Certain person rejected my idea (*cough* Turuk *cough*)
20100908 15:58:04< shadowmaster> but I guess that doesn't matter anymore :)
20100908 15:58:17< Soliton> indeed.
20100908 15:58:41< fendrin> Good idea. 
20100908 15:58:47< shadowmaster> Gambit: you'll hate me for this I guess. :P
20100908 16:00:18< Soliton> can't hate you for an excuse to refine his bot.
20100908 16:01:07< shadowmaster> that depends on how lazy he is atm.
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20100908 16:10:23< shadowmaster> this is a nice exercise to avoid falling asleep at the library.
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20100908 16:17:32< Gambit> Soliton: It's not really a problem with needing refinement as it is X new http requests every 10 minutes
20100908 16:18:44< shadowmaster> "you're doing it wrong"
20100908 16:19:27< shadowmaster> Gambit: although sure you're only interested in the soon-to-be-created Dead Water subforum, right?
20100908 16:19:48< Gambit> Yeah, I do like the idea.
20100908 16:20:20< Gambit> I don't hate you. I hate adobe for not making their linux port inferior.
20100908 16:20:24< Gambit> s/not//
20100908 16:22:38< Gambit> I have a plan for creating a non-IRC bot in perl that checks the feeds, and adds them to the database. Then I'll add a column for "reported" y/n. Then janebot will check the database every 10 minutes. Coldfusion will be entirely removed from the equation.
20100908 16:23:28< Gambit> Any rows that don't have reported as true will be reported and checked off.
20100908 16:24:49< Gambit> On a more topic-related note, once shadowmaster is done with all these new forums, and once I add them to the bot, campaign maintainers can subscribe to get updates on IRC of new posts about their campaign
20100908 16:25:10< Gambit> with "janebot: !subscribe #;w" where # is the forum's number
20100908 16:25:37< shadowmaster> only when you are around, anyway
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20100908 16:25:57< Gambit> Yes only between 8 and 11 eastern
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20100908 16:26:25< Gambit> Though posts it misses overnight will be reported the next morning.
20100908 16:26:38< Gambit> And if you're not here when it reports... well sorry. :P
20100908 16:26:58< shadowmaster> I am always here.
20100908 16:27:14< Gambit> Where "you" equals the subscribing individual.
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20100908 16:27:57< shadowmaster> I know, but I wanted to give you a healthy dose of smartassery. You know, like those you give me from time to time.
20100908 16:31:44< shadowmaster> Forumers: we are experiencing some turbulences. For the time being, please make sure your seat belts are tight and grab the oxygen masks from the emergency compartments.
20100908 16:32:17< shadowmaster> Translation: the moderator lists are going to disappear and reappear while I create forums.
20100908 16:35:32< shadowmaster> I'm also having connectivity issues because the nearest wifi router died.
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20100908 16:49:41< fendrin> shadowmaster: Hmm, can the scenarios be made sticky in their order?
20100908 16:50:06< fendrin> shadowmaster: Assumed the campaign does have a linear scenario flow.
20100908 16:51:06< Unnheulu> fendrin, when someone posts then the sticky would move...
20100908 16:51:51< Gambit> shadowmaster: Does phpBB allow for changing the ordering of specific subforums?
20100908 16:51:56< Gambit> Order by subject rather than date.
20100908 16:52:09< Gambit> err wait why am I asking you
20100908 16:53:50< Gambit> Nope. It doesn't. :(
20100908 16:54:18< fendrin> Gambit: Even anouncements?
20100908 16:54:38< fendrin> What about going even further and give each scenario it's own subsubforum.
20100908 16:54:43< fendrin> ?
20100908 16:55:25< Gambit> 0_0
20100908 16:55:26< fendrin> With a thread for each wesnoth version for general feedback and more room to discuss other stuff.
20100908 16:56:00< fendrin> I just hate that halve of the feedbackers don't manage to add version information to the feedback.
20100908 16:56:26< fendrin> If the threads would be splitted for versions they have at least to think a little bit which thread to open.
20100908 16:58:05< Gambit> Heh apparently even if you sort them by subject it wants to do 1, 10, 11, 12, 2, 3, 4, 5
20100908 16:59:26 * Unnheulu congratulates Gambit
20100908 16:59:58< Gambit> Thanks? I guess...
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20100908 17:10:10< Gambit> I wonder if shadowmaster would like help moving things...
20100908 17:10:12< fendrin> shadowmaster: Still around?
20100908 17:10:29< Gambit> fendrin: He's busy moving a ton of threads.
20100908 17:11:01< fendrin> Gambit: Yeah, and I want him stop to talk about the subsubforums
20100908 17:11:12< fendrin> To avoid duplicate work.
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20100908 17:13:34< fendrin> The undead haven't been around since ever, have they? I thought I had read about a mage inventing necromancy who created the entire faction, do I remember correctly?
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20100908 17:26:31< joo> Well someone had to start it
20100908 17:27:22< fendrin> joo: Well, no. I don't believe in a world creator.
20100908 17:27:46< fendrin> Some god or whatever.
20100908 17:30:00< shadowmaster> fendrin: duplicate work?
20100908 17:30:17< fendrin> shadowmaster: I would like to have subsubforums for every scenario.
20100908 17:30:28< shadowmaster> what. why?
20100908 17:31:15< shadowmaster> anyway,  I finished moving everything and I'll switch OP authors later.
20100908 17:31:55< fendrin> I want a separate thread for each version of wesnoth per scenario and double them again for multiplayer. That will make many threads and I want the feedbacker forced to choose the version actively. 
20100908 17:31:57< joo> Err
20100908 17:32:06< joo> I meant someone had to start the practice of necromancy
20100908 17:32:07< shadowmaster> fendrin: you won't get that.
20100908 17:32:18< joo> Which I'm assuming was a mortal
20100908 17:32:44< shadowmaster> whoo, ACP log spam
20100908 17:32:57< fendrin> shadowmaster: Why not?
20100908 17:33:02< shadowmaster> good that I'm the only one who looks at admin logs anyway
20100908 17:33:09< fendrin> shadowmaster: It does really make sense for me.
20100908 17:33:22< fendrin> shadowmaster: Just in LoW if you dislike the idea for every campaign.
20100908 17:33:26< shadowmaster> fendrin: extra work for me, since I'll need to split existing threads as required, etc. etc. etc. et.c
20100908 17:33:42< shadowmaster> you need to realize nothing of this is automatized.
20100908 17:33:56< fendrin> shadowmaster: All you need to do is giving me the right to create subforums in the LoW forum. I won't do anything nasty, I promise.
20100908 17:34:01< shadowmaster> and LoW is pretty much a nightmare of a long campaign
20100908 17:34:18< shadowmaster> fendrin: nope.  I don't give admin powers like candy :(
20100908 17:34:27< shadowmaster> (besides it's very easy to misclick and delete stuff...)
20100908 17:34:42< fendrin> shadowmaster: You can remove them after I am finished and I only need them in the subforum.
20100908 17:35:22< shadowmaster> I need to take a nap.
20100908 17:35:28< shadowmaster> I'm tired after all this work.
20100908 17:37:06< shadowmaster> gah.
20100908 17:37:13< shadowmaster> I mixed up SotBE and DiD
20100908 17:38:56< shadowmaster> and LoW and DW. and DiD and DM.
20100908 17:40:38< shadowmaster> where the hell did the DiD index go?
20100908 17:40:59< shadowmaster> oh, Users' Forum
20100908 17:42:20< shadowmaster> phew. fixed. nap.
20100908 17:45:25< shadowmaster> actually, no nap, or I'll end up with a numb arm
20100908 17:46:08< fendrin> shadowmaster: Any idea how to easily multiply the scenario threads first post into new threads?
20100908 17:46:22< shadowmaster> there's no easy method.
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20100908 17:47:26< shadowmaster> why can't you just use an atom feed reader.
20100908 17:47:45< shadowmaster> and pay attention to the answer to the "what version" question? people are very likely to post in the wrong thread otherwise.
20100908 17:47:56< shadowmaster> I had that with the IftU development threads. Multiple times.
20100908 17:50:33< shadowmaster> also, assume I'm semi-afk. I need the Konsole window for something else now and I'm too lazy to detach the ssh tab
20100908 18:09:09< shadowmaster> sigh
20100908 18:09:29< shadowmaster> bugs are supposed to go to dev threads, not feedback threads
20100908 18:11:48< zookeeper> fendrin, if there's anything on the origins of undead then it's just some silly UMC.
20100908 18:13:10< shadowmaster> zookeeper: do we need feedback threads for the tutorial anymore?
20100908 18:14:30< shadowmaster> fendrin: on the other hand, bugs go into the Technical Support forum.
20100908 18:15:21< fendrin> shadowmaster: That is fine for me if their was a subforum for each mainline campaign in Technical Support.
20100908 18:15:33< shadowmaster> :|
20100908 18:15:42< zookeeper> shadowmaster, well, not for long i hope, but i'm not sure if we want to get rid of the current ones yet
20100908 18:15:51< shadowmaster> okay, I'll guess you aren't able to use an Atom feed reader.
20100908 18:15:57< shadowmaster> zookeeper: maybe lock them
20100908 18:17:02< zookeeper> fendrin, http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=31540 has some garbage at the end
20100908 18:18:00< fendrin> zookeeper: Thanks.
20100908 18:19:00< shadowmaster> more like lock the whole Tutorial subforum
20100908 18:19:32< shadowmaster> Gambit: around?
20100908 18:20:40< Gambit> Err no
20100908 18:20:45< Gambit> Not really.
20100908 18:20:47< shadowmaster> damn
20100908 18:20:48< Gambit> What's up?
20100908 18:21:01< Gambit> I can't do anything, but if you have something to tell me I can listen.
20100908 18:21:13< shadowmaster> don't worry, I'm almost finishe already
20100908 18:22:41< Gambit> [11:47:25] <shadowmaster> why can't you just use an atom feed reader.
20100908 18:22:47 * Gambit coughs
20100908 18:22:57< shadowmaster> finished stickifying the index posts.
20100908 18:23:00 * Gambit goes back to english class and remembers to disconnect this time
20100908 18:23:02< shadowmaster> Gambit: elaborate, please.
20100908 18:23:07< shadowmaster> ...
20100908 18:23:12< Gambit> shadowmaster: janebot is an atom feed reader :P
20100908 18:23:20< shadowmaster> yeah, but fendrin isn't able to use it.
20100908 18:23:23< Gambit> Tailored specifically to wesnoth and frogatto forums.
20100908 18:23:33< shadowmaster> and I was suggesting something more advanced.
20100908 18:23:47< Gambit> Your words burn like a thousand ice cubes.
20100908 18:23:48< fendrin> shadowmaster: I think my feedbackers won't be able to use it.
20100908 18:24:01< shadowmaster> fendrin: feedbackers do nothing
20100908 18:24:08< shadowmaster> the atom feed is served by phpbb.
20100908 18:24:21< shadowmaster> the atom feed is read by people who want to by notified of posts
20100908 18:25:03< fendrin> I realy don't want to code a atom something that searches for low support requests in technical support.
20100908 18:25:43< shadowmaster> sure there are feed readers out there who can do searching
20100908 18:25:59< shadowmaster> in fact, I'm staring at one myself, although the search function is pretty useless to me.
20100908 18:26:04< Gambit> I will allow regex subscriptions eventually.
20100908 18:26:17< shadowmaster> anyway, you are completely missing the point, so never mind.
20100908 18:26:18< Gambit> Probably about the same time Thunderstone is release ;)
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20100908 18:43:42< fendrin> shadowmaster: Maybe a own subforum for the MP version of LoW at least?
20100908 18:45:45< shadowmaster> yes, I can do that.
20100908 18:46:04< shadowmaster> it'll not be part of the Legend of Wesmere forum, though. It'll be just a companion
20100908 18:47:01< fendrin> shadowmaster: Fine
20100908 18:47:12< shadowmaster> done
20100908 18:47:30< shadowmaster> I mean, it can be nested, but it'd look..."argh"
20100908 18:47:40< Gambit> subsubsubforum
20100908 18:47:47 * Unnheulu thinks that would be wicked
20100908 18:47:55< Unnheulu> Sorry...
20100908 18:48:13< fendrin> shadowmaster: Please move it up to be neighboring the single player thread.
20100908 18:48:20< shadowmaster> I'm at that right now
20100908 18:48:28< shadowmaster> it's not precisely the easiest thing in the world
20100908 18:48:35< Gambit> fendrin: You maintain LoW?
20100908 18:48:49< Gambit> fendrin: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28536
20100908 18:48:56< fendrin> shadowmaster: And please rename the singleplayer version to by adding "(singleplayer)" :-)
20100908 18:49:02< fendrin> Gambit: Thank you :-9
20100908 18:49:41< shadowmaster> ...done
20100908 18:50:07< shadowmaster> now whether anyone can find that is a different matter
20100908 18:50:37< shadowmaster> since MP people will probably not be visiting the Mainline Campaign Feedback forum- and how many people know of its existence anyway? is LoW MP available by default in trunk?
20100908 18:51:06< shadowmaster> also, if you need to mass-relocate threads, look at the moderator control panel at the viewforum view
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20100908 18:52:35< fendrin> shadowmaster: Yes, LoW is available per default even in 1.8
20100908 18:52:40< fendrin> Multiplayer
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20100908 18:53:35< shadowmaster> in that case, please explain to me why I don't see it in the game setup screen in 1.8.4+svn
20100908 18:54:19< fendrin> shadowmaster: checking...
20100908 18:55:04< fendrin> shadowmaster: Maybe because it is the lowest entry?
20100908 18:55:15< shadowmaster> no.
20100908 18:55:18< shadowmaster> I just don't see it
20100908 18:55:47< shadowmaster> oh, I see it now. I was expecting multiple entries.
20100908 18:55:57< shadowmaster> and I haven't seen anyone on the MP server playing it, I think.
20100908 18:56:20< fendrin> shadowmaster: Yes, but I have already got some feedback for it.
20100908 18:56:47< fendrin> shadowmaster: It's quite hidden being the latest entry, but I don't know how to change that.
20100908 18:58:07< shadowmaster> now, a better question for the rest of the audience
20100908 18:58:16< shadowmaster> do we really want Wesnoth Benchmark anymore?
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20100908 18:59:55< fendrin> hi Bocom
20100908 18:59:59< fendrin> hi boucman
20100908 19:00:06< boucman> hey fendrin
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20100908 19:32:04< fendrin> Gambit: shadowmaster: How can I get rid of moved topic entries?
20100908 19:33:05< shadowmaster> moderator control panel on viewforum, delete the shadow topic for every entry
20100908 19:33:20< shadowmaster> the option appears to the right of every topic
20100908 19:33:29< shadowmaster> btw, don't you want to do a mass-move of topics?
20100908 19:34:02< fendrin> shadowmaster: Yes, I do. 
20100908 19:34:28< shadowmaster> so there oyu have th emeans to do it
20100908 19:34:40< fendrin> shadowmaster: I got it.
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20100908 20:48:39< shadowmaster> fendrin: please update http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=22465
20100908 20:49:08< shadowmaster> and create a similar sticky index for the MP mode forum
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20100908 20:50:45< shadowmaster> shutting down. bye.
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20100908 21:09:02< mordante> servus
20100908 21:10:55< zookeeper> hello
20100908 21:11:36< mordante> hi zookeeper 
20100908 21:11:39< zookeeper> mordante, i have a bug for you (and/or alink)
20100908 21:11:40< zookeeper> < zookeeper> uh...my imagepath "misc/blank-hex.png~SCALE(234,216)~BLIT(misc/blank-hex.png~SCALE(126,144)~BLIT(terrain/alphamask.png~RC(000000>red),0,0)~BLIT(terrain/alphamask.png~RC(000000>blue),0,72)~BLIT(terrain/alphamask.png~RC(000000>green),54,36),54,36)" causes an "error display: could not open image 'terrain/transparent/alphamask.png'"
20100908 21:11:54< zookeeper> < silene> zookeeper: according to the code, the engine automatically inserts "transparent/" at the last / and then it tests if the file exists; if not, it reverts to the nontransparent one; unfortunately in your case, misc/blank-hex.png is not the last /, so it still exists and the image path becomes broken
20100908 21:12:59< mordante> yeah that's left from the portrait change
20100908 21:13:29< zookeeper> i don't think it's needed anymore, so if no one wants to fix that bug then maybe the feature can be removed already...
20100908 21:14:20< mordante> I've to see what the exact status is, I know I discussed about it long ago and can't remember the exact status
20100908 21:17:19< zookeeper> well, is there any information i can provide to help?
20100908 21:17:36< anonymissimus> esr: around ?
20100908 21:18:01< zookeeper> for example, i don't think that feature is used anywhere in mainline, and AFAIK it's undocumented anyway so UMC use isn't an issue (and i doubt UMC relies on it either; it's not like there's almost any UMC unit type portraits in the first place)
20100908 21:18:03< mordante> zookeeper, not really I need to look at the code and what it does
20100908 21:18:06< zookeeper> okay
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20100908 21:23:11< CIA-35> mordante * r46317 /trunk/src/multiplayer_lobby.cpp: Make Wesnoth more compatible with C++0x (g++-4.5).
20100908 21:30:34< esr> anonymissimus: Yes, what's up?
20100908 21:32:14< anonymissimus> this is what I get when trying to set a journey marker: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/FiFN40Yq
20100908 21:33:07< anonymissimus> any ideas what I could do ? they appear in the menu bar however; and on Linux this problem does not appear
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20100908 21:38:18< anonymissimus> none of the setable icons appears on-map, which renders trackplacer useless on windows
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20100908 21:51:01< mordante> I'm off night
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20100908 23:10:14< anonymissimus> esr: ?
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