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20100909 00:15:16< esr> anonymissimus: Sorry, this has to be some kind of Windows port bug.  I've never seen it under Linux.
20100909 00:17:51< anonymissimus> so the problem seems to be rather with gtk than trackplacer and I can do nothing about it ? :(
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20100909 00:21:59< Ivanovic> Gambit: btw beetlenaut has commit accecss now, too
20100909 00:22:08< Ivanovic> he plans to work on maintaining dead water, too
20100909 00:22:20< Ivanovic> so when changing stuff you should coordinate somehow
20100909 00:22:41< Gambit> I don't suppose he frequents IRC?
20100909 00:22:54< Ivanovic> does not look like, i'd recommend using the forum(pm)
20100909 00:23:06< Ivanovic> though feel free to ask him to join in here
20100909 00:23:18< Ivanovic> off to bed now, n8
20100909 00:26:23< Gambit> Bye
20100909 00:30:11< esr> anonymissimus: Tell me what map you were editing and what operation you did, I'll try to duplicate under Linux.  But yes, I'm guessing it's a GTK problem.
20100909 00:31:08< anonymissimus> I already tried reproducing on ubuntu; I did everything in the logical same way, the bug does not happen there
20100909 00:32:00< anonymissimus> it's the wesnoth core map, from data\core\images\maps
20100909 00:40:12< anonymissimus> it happens when trying to place any of the symbols (travel dot, flag, battle cross etc) on the map; the symbol does not appear and that error message displays
20100909 00:41:57< anonymissimus> there are also some deprecation warnings earlier; here are the full console messages from eclipse-pydev http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/fiaMNS7m
20100909 00:43:58< CIA-35> beetlenaut * r46318 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/ (5 files in 3 dirs): New portraits for Gwabbo and Caladon (by kitty)
20100909 00:46:50< Gambit> awww
20100909 00:47:02< Gambit> Well at least they got in ^_^
20100909 00:48:17< CIA-35> beetlenaut * r46319 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/scenarios/01_Invasion.cfg: Removed attacks and moves from newly spawned zombies, and added a [message] about them.
20100909 00:49:11< Gambit> :awesome:
20100909 00:49:12< CIA-35> beetlenaut * r46320 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/scenarios/09_The_Mage.cfg: Added a few turns.
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20100909 01:26:55< CIA-35> beetlenaut * r46321 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/scenarios/01_Invasion.cfg: Set the traits for all starting citizens instead of letting them be randomly assigned.
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20100909 01:30:55< shadowmaster> anonymissimus: finally, I've reached you.
20100909 01:31:13< anonymissimus> I don't want to be red pls :P
20100909 01:31:16< shadowmaster> why
20100909 01:31:51< anonymissimus> Gambit is green :P
20100909 01:31:58< shadowmaster> yeah, so?
20100909 01:32:10< Gambit> I was red for a day.
20100909 01:32:23< Gambit> But then I unlocked green :o
20100909 01:32:29< shadowmaster> he wanted to concentrate on forum moderation, hence he got Developer status but we set Forum Moderator as his primary group
20100909 01:32:38< anonymissimus> well I prefer being a sevret dev as always 
20100909 01:32:44< anonymissimus> secret
20100909 01:32:57< anonymissimus> there are people with write access but they are blue
20100909 01:33:14< shadowmaster> because they chose to stay cyan
20100909 01:33:24< Gambit> shadowmaster: And he chooses to stay black I guess...
20100909 01:33:35< shadowmaster> no, black is reserved for Forum Services.
20100909 01:33:38< shadowmaster> you mean "neutral"
20100909 01:33:42< Gambit> gray?
20100909 01:33:48< shadowmaster> no, neutral
20100909 01:33:56< shadowmaster> the actual color varies by forum theme
20100909 01:34:08< shadowmaster> I am a Forum Moderator by my own decree ( :P ), but I'm not green either because I prefer a read name
20100909 01:34:14< shadowmaster> *red
20100909 01:34:15< Gambit> Oh yeah..
20100909 01:34:24< Gambit> It's actually a dark blue on prosilver
20100909 01:34:26< Gambit> Interesting
20100909 01:34:38< shadowmaster> this is totally not a dictatorship, don't look at me like that.
20100909 01:35:06< shadowmaster> Gambit: you should also note that forum styles will nset actual "colorful" users' names in bold
20100909 01:35:13< shadowmaster> neutral users don't get bold
20100909 01:35:19< Gambit> shadowmaster: Green and orange are way cooler than red
20100909 01:35:39< shadowmaster> I'd have blue.
20100909 01:35:45< shadowmaster> but I reserved that to Shady Test People.
20100909 01:36:01< Gambit> I thought they were purple
20100909 01:36:07< Gambit> What is GAAA ?
20100909 01:36:08< shadowmaster> no, blue
20100909 01:36:33< shadowmaster> my lost twin brother
20100909 01:36:36< Gambit> Looks purple to me.
20100909 01:36:42< shadowmaster> IT'S BLUE.
20100909 01:36:50< shadowmaster> your eyes are broken.
20100909 01:37:26< shadowmaster> the group color is set in the ACP to #000099
20100909 01:37:40< shadowmaster> that is, R(0x00), G(0x00), B(0x99)
20100909 01:38:30< shadowmaster> Gambit: let's leave it at that. I'll remember you are colorblind in the future.
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20100909 01:42:16< shadowmaster> heh, Content Feedback's uid is 123454
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20100909 01:42:33< shadowmaster> had I waited for another 2 members to register...
20100909 01:50:53< anonymissimus> here http://forums.wesnoth.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108844 macchark is black although he's write access :P
20100909 01:51:10< anonymissimus> McShark
20100909 01:51:44< shadowmaster> why so serious.
20100909 01:51:57< shadowmaster> you don't need to prove anything. I respect your choice.
20100909 01:52:07< shadowmaster> wait.
20100909 01:52:16< shadowmaster> McShark has commit access?
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20100909 02:02:14< anonymissimus> wesbot: --help
20100909 02:02:43< anonymissimus> anyway, Revision: 40196 that was McShark
20100909 02:02:48< anonymissimus> and some others
20100909 02:03:59< shadowmaster> wesbot: log 40196
20100909 02:04:00< wesbot> mcshark * r40196 : Update according to recent file changes
20100909 02:04:01< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=40196
20100909 02:04:10< shadowmaster> shikadibot: log 40196
20100909 02:04:11< shikadibot> Revision 40196 (mcshark, 2009-12-11 22:52:55 +0000 (Fri, 11 Dec 2009)):
20100909 02:04:15< shikadibot> Update according to recent file changes
20100909 02:04:17< shikadibot> Web interface URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=40196
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20100909 02:06:56< Gambit> shikadibot was faster
20100909 02:06:56< janebot> Gambit: Sometimes wesbot is fast.
20100909 02:06:56< wesbot> Gambit: Sometimes we are fast
20100909 02:07:07< Gambit> err
20100909 02:07:30< Gambit> That Never Happened™
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20100909 03:29:28< CIA-35> espreon * r46322 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/images/portraits/transparent/ (caladon.png gwabbo.png): Ran umcpropfix.
20100909 03:31:01< CIA-35> espreon * r46323 /trunk/src/ (multiplayer_lobby.cpp multiplayer_lobby.hpp): Ran umcpropfix.
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20100909 04:57:41-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 156 bugs, 296 feature requests, 18 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20100909 05:01:47< shadowmaster> Gambit: I'm telling you off for claiming that you've not been told off for weeks.
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20100909 05:40:22 * shadowmaster pokes esr
20100909 05:40:46< esr> shadowmaster: What's up?
20100909 05:41:23< shadowmaster> esr: I just noticed that Linaera has no dying lines in AOI, scenario 6
20100909 05:41:32< shadowmaster> I mean 5
20100909 05:41:34< esr> Hm.
20100909 05:41:51< shadowmaster> it looks a bit awkward, since her death triggers the player's defeat anyway
20100909 05:42:13< esr> Easily fixed.
20100909 05:42:27< shadowmaster> isn't it nice how I still manage to get my heroes killed in what's supposed to be the easiest campaign ever, after Two Brothers?
20100909 05:42:45< esr> That's so...special.
20100909 05:45:27< CIA-35> esr * r46324 /trunk/data/campaigns/An_Orcish_Incursion/scenarios/06_A_Detour_through_the_Swamp.cfg: Give Linaera a short death speech, at shadowmaster's suggestion.
20100909 05:46:36< shadowmaster> esr: I did mean scenario 5, not 6
20100909 05:47:03< shadowmaster> I haven't finished scenario 5 yet so I don't know what's supposed to happen if she dies in the 6th, and I'm too busy playing to check the WML
20100909 05:49:34< CIA-35> esr * r46325 /trunk/data/campaigns/An_Orcish_Incursion/scenarios/05_Linaera_the_Quick.cfg: Duplicate a last-breath event for Linaerra in order to minimize translation load.
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20100909 05:55:25< shadowmaster> ah, I had not played wesnoth singleplayer for a long itme
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20100909 06:01:28< shadowmaster> hm.
20100909 06:01:37< shadowmaster> it seems Wesnoth somehow forgot that Linaera's single unit has a portrait
20100909 06:01:52< shadowmaster> during the course of a single scenario, no less
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20100909 06:14:36< CIA-35> shadowmaster * r46326 /branches/1.8/ (changelog src/editor/editor_palettes.cpp): 
20100909 06:14:37< CIA-35> Added a standard click sound to brush bar buttons in the editor.
20100909 06:14:37< CIA-35> (Fixes bug #15635.)
20100909 06:17:23< CIA-35> shadowmaster * r46327 /trunk/ (changelog src/editor/editor_palettes.cpp): 
20100909 06:17:23< CIA-35> Added a standard click sound to brush bar buttons in the editor.
20100909 06:17:23< CIA-35> (Fixes bug #15635. Merges r46326 from 1.8.)
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20100909 06:25:57< CIA-35> shadowmaster * r46328 /trunk/src/editor/editor_palettes.cpp: 
20100909 06:25:57< CIA-35> Fix misplaced code change in r46326.
20100909 06:25:57< CIA-35> (Fixes bug #15635, correctly in trunk this time.)
20100909 06:26:39< Espreon> Hello rusty.
20100909 06:27:06< shadowmaster> note to self: make sure you are editing the correct class' member method when porting changes by hand.
20100909 06:27:23< shadowmaster> *the member method of the correct class
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20100909 06:52:08< rusty> Espreon: hi!
20100909 06:58:45< shadowmaster> I hereby declare fontconfig completely useless.
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20100909 06:59:10< shadowmaster> someone should throw fish at thits develoeprs.
20100909 06:59:14< shadowmaster> *its
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20100909 07:12:26< shadowmaster> whoah. Wait. is it radeon's fault? who edited my xorg.conf file without my authorization?
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20100909 09:19:41< ilor> hi, could someone give me a link to a recent git-svn wesnoth tarball?
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20100909 09:30:45< Ivanovic> moin
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20100909 09:47:57< ilor> Ivanovic: do you have a git-svn repo tarball link handy?
20100909 09:48:08< Ivanovic> no, i don't
20100909 09:48:17< Ivanovic> i think Soliton should know it though
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20100909 09:52:20< Soliton> ilor: files.wesnoth.org/hidden/git
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20100909 09:53:26< timotei> yey! Notebook on it's way home
20100909 09:53:35< timotei> Ivanovic: it seemed they changed the LCD and wifi card:P
20100909 09:54:48< Ivanovic> :)
20100909 09:56:26< Soliton> ilor: if you wait a bit there'll be an uptodate version there.
20100909 09:57:37< ilor> Soliton: okay thanks, I'll check in a while
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20100909 11:15:57< CIA-35> ivanovic * r46329 /branches/1.8/po/ (5 files in 5 dirs): updated Vietnamese translation
20100909 11:15:57< CIA-35> ivanovic * r46330 /trunk/po/ (5 files in 5 dirs): updated Vietnamese translation
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20100909 14:06:11< CIA-35> esr * r46331 /trunk/data/campaigns/Two_Brothers/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Meged in plot and character erewrite by A-Rod.
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20100909 14:26:40< esr> zookeeper: You there?
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20100909 14:42:04< Ivanovic> esr: please do not forget to add this change to the textdomain changes
20100909 14:42:10< Ivanovic> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/TextdomainStatus
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20100909 14:52:14< esr> Ivanovic: I have added a lot of good news to that page.  The campaigns I am responsible for or have mainlined are text stable now, barring surprises like A-Rod's good rewrite of aToTB.
20100909 14:53:05< Ivanovic> since you have not mainlined two brothers but "only" did some later prose polishing that is fine
20100909 14:53:07< Ivanovic> ;)
20100909 14:53:44< Ivanovic> esr: especially important is the column "Changes since 1.8"
20100909 14:54:16< Ivanovic> ("general development" does not include "plot and character rewrite")
20100909 14:54:51< esr> Yes, I've filled that in for several.  I have no plot or character rewrites planned.
20100909 14:55:47< Ivanovic> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/TextdomainStatus
20100909 14:56:19< Ivanovic> to me it looks like there is almost only "general development" listed in the changes collumn, though just now you commited a "larger change" for wesnoth-tb
20100909 14:56:39< Ivanovic> seeing this one case i prefer to be sure and point out that stuff should be kept up to date for all domains
20100909 14:58:56< esr> Ivanovic: I had forgotten this page existed, frankly.  And until A-Rod materialized with some very good ideas about the Two Brothers back-story, I wasn't planning to change that text at all.
20100909 15:02:40< esr> Mainline text is pretty stable at this point.  There are the obvious exceptions - fabi's dong some work on MP-LoW, and beetlenaut might tweak DW a little - but the days when I had to run around rewriting stuff wholesale because our prose quality sucked so badly are behind us.
20100909 15:03:39< esr> Even the new writers are turning in better prose than they used to - beetlenaut is a case in point, I barely had to edit him at all.
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20100909 15:11:45< stikonas> esr: quite a lot of stuff was added here: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SpellingMistakes
20100909 15:14:30< esr> stikonas: I see.  This is all pretty low-level stuff, though; single-string changers.
20100909 15:15:32< stikonas> Simons Mith added some more comments at the bottom of the page
20100909 15:15:52< esr> stikonas: I see those.  They're good.
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20100909 15:41:20< CIA-35> anonymissimus * r46332 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: Fixed [filter_adjacent] only matching for one's own side's units if is_enemy= unspecified.
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20100909 15:48:30< eleazzaar> zookeeper: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=29691&p=455485#p455485
20100909 15:49:35< eleazzaar>  Is there more that can be easily done to include new terrain stuff in random maps?
20100909 15:53:07< CIA-35> esr * r46333 /trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Small fixes suggested by the Spelling Mistakes page.
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20100909 16:32:49< zookeeper> eleazzaar, i don't know, i'll have a look...
20100909 16:34:05< Ivanovic> Upthorn: don't forget to upload your sample code to google, this is not optional
20100909 16:34:31< Ivanovic> (the other three gsoc students commited their work into the google system at http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2010-wesnoth/downloads/list )
20100909 16:38:31< Upthorn> oh man, I lost track of the date. I'll do that right now.
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20100909 16:45:14< zookeeper> eleazzaar, it'd seem to be easy to add the new village types there, but i don't see for example a way to use embellishments automatically. however, that could easily be done by a WML event if you'd like that.
20100909 16:45:35< Upthorn> Ivanovic: done.
20100909 16:45:44< Upthorn> thanks for the reminder.
20100909 16:46:44< zookeeper> eleazzaar, so, if you want embellishments to be used, give me a list with the embellishments, terrains on which each one should appear and a probability and i can easily add such an event in there.
20100909 16:47:27< zookeeper> i think we can also add some of the new forests there
20100909 16:48:18< zookeeper> basically what's needed when adding them is a height and a temperature range. we can have pines in low temp and in higher altitudes, and deciduous in higher temp and lower altitudes
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20100909 17:04:31< CIA-35> alink * r46334 /trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): unhardcoding missing-image to game_config.cfg
20100909 17:04:39< CIA-35> alink * r46335 /trunk/images/misc/missing-image.png: 
20100909 17:04:39< CIA-35> Replace "working peasant" by semi-transparent "Image not found"
20100909 17:04:39< CIA-35> Text/font need improvement for readability (common problem: unit frame are under hp/xp bar)
20100909 17:04:39< CIA-35> Still use flashy yellow to increase visibility for missing short frame in anim.
20100909 17:04:47< alink> zookeeper: ^ feel free to improve it
20100909 17:06:14< alink> but I wonder if translators will make localized images
20100909 17:10:16< zookeeper> alink, nice
20100909 17:10:58< zookeeper> alink, btw, have you read the logs and seen my imagepathfunction problem?
20100909 17:12:49< zookeeper> i already told mordante about it and i guess he said he'll look into it, but i was just wondering...
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20100909 17:31:19< stikonas> alink: there is a wiki page (http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ImageLocalization) where all localized images are listed
20100909 17:33:03< alink> zookeeper: yes I saw it, it's not really related to imagepath, just a message/profil hack which need to be improved or killed, but I didn't followed the portrait/transparent stuff, so probably better to let mordante handle it
20100909 17:33:22< alink> stikonas: checking, thanks
20100909 17:33:29< zookeeper> alink, ok, no problem
20100909 17:35:01< Ivanovic> Upthorn: you have to follow some naming conventions for the upload
20100909 17:35:19< Ivanovic> Upthorn: since google has to somehow keep track of the stuff you have to rename the tarball
20100909 17:35:31< alink> mordante: but I can do a quick fix if you want, something like construct a image::locator and works on the string returned by get_filename() instead of the full image string
20100909 17:35:53< Ivanovic> Upthorn: the correct name would be this; Jody_Northup.tar.gz
20100909 17:36:08< Ivanovic> you're welcome for the reminder
20100909 17:36:21< alink> mordante: also, unit::transparent() seems unused.
20100909 17:36:40< Upthorn> oh dammit. last year there were neither file naming conventions nor archive format requirements.
20100909 17:36:58< Ivanovic> looks like some stuff changed this year in those regards
20100909 17:37:08< Upthorn> Is there a way to rename that right now?
20100909 17:37:29< Ivanovic> at least that is what i heard in #gsoc from some other student who asked what his real name to use there was supposed to be, the on "on doc" or "normal"
20100909 17:37:33< Ivanovic> no idea
20100909 17:39:07< Ivanovic> i'd say: download the file available there, rename it, delete the old file, upload the new one with the correct name
20100909 17:39:16< Ivanovic> for deleting: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2010-wesnoth/downloads/detail?name=gsoc10_upthorn.tar.gz&can=2&q=#makechanges
20100909 17:40:53< alink> stikonas: ok, but I will wait a little before adding missing-image there. The image is not final (just a quick Gimp of mine) and I am not even sure if it make sense to translate it. I initially preferred using a icon, but the working peasant was not clear enough. Text is unambiguous but sometimes not fully readable 
20100909 17:41:37< Upthorn> Ivanovic: I have corrected it.
20100909 17:41:43< Ivanovic> okay
20100909 17:42:18< alink> but one good thing with text, is that it make clear that it's not the icon of a game element
20100909 17:43:11< alink> hehe, I could use "404" to fix the language problem :-)
20100909 17:43:46< alink> and make it cryptic again ;-p
20100909 17:44:17< stikonas> hmm, Dead water map is in jpg format instead of png
20100909 17:44:49< stikonas> and I think that it is unprepeared for localization
20100909 17:45:11< stikonas> Espreon: ^^
20100909 17:47:47< shadowm_tty> maybe beetlenaut has a PNG version
20100909 17:49:10< beetlenaut> Hello--yes I do. It's just a lot bigger.
20100909 17:49:36< beetlenaut> What would it need to be localizable?
20100909 17:49:53< beetlenaut> Names in a separate file?
20100909 17:50:27< shadowm_tty> stikonas: ^
20100909 17:52:44< stikonas> beetlenaut: main Wesnoth map is also stored in resources branch in GIMP XCF format where names are in separate layer
20100909 17:52:58< stikonas> I'll give you a link
20100909 17:53:33< shadowm_tty> shikadibot: dir /branches/resources/
20100909 17:53:33< shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /branches/resources/: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/resources
20100909 17:53:34< stikonas> then we can just replace names layer with our own layer
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20100909 17:56:39< stikonas> beetlenaut: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/resources/cartography-tools/great-continent.xcf?view=log
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20100909 17:58:15< stikonas> though this one has lots of layers since it contains all campaings that uses the main map
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20100909 18:07:52< beetlenaut> hmm. I can't find a png or xcf right now. I'll keep looking for it later.
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20100909 18:33:40< CIA-35> alink * r46336 /trunk/src/sdl_utils.cpp: Make it clear that sdl_utils functions return NULL when passed NULL
20100909 18:33:40< CIA-35> alink * r46337 /trunk/src/minimap.cpp: 
20100909 18:33:56< CIA-35> Missing minimap image (=symbol_image) now just doesn't blit anything and only trigger a warning
20100909 18:33:56< CIA-35> instead of error + crash. Note that overlay image are also not blitted when base is missing
20100909 18:33:56< CIA-35> (to avoid hiding the error), and debug-mode still replace missing image.
20100909 18:34:14< alink> ^I hope that it's a good behavior (for the overlay thing)
20100909 18:34:47< alink> fendrin: btw, should fix your crash
20100909 18:35:01< fendrin> alink: Where is it?
20100909 18:35:08< alink> r46337
20100909 18:35:43< fendrin> alink: Ah, good. I first thought I made a mistake and wesnoth crashes because of one of my commits again.
20100909 18:35:47< alink> I still need to clean the void/void stuff, but the crash is fixed
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20100909 18:37:14< alink> fendrin: hehe, no, other things than your commits crash wesnoth ;-p
20100909 18:37:25< fendrin> lol
20100909 18:39:56< alink> mmh, as expected, my new missing-image text is not very readable when rendered as a minimap tile :-/
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20100909 18:43:12< zookeeper> alink, and you think it's possible to have missing-image text that's readable when rendered as a minimap tile? :P
20100909 18:44:38< alink> zookeeper: no, of course :), but i was hoping that it would show up more
20100909 18:45:02< alink> one current problem is that scaling show too much black (from the text) and not enough yellow (maybe because of the alpha)
20100909 18:45:29< alink> perhaps I should try other colors
20100909 18:46:56< alink> but yeah 3 words in a 8x8 image needs tiny fonts
20100909 18:46:59< zookeeper> alink, well, sounds like a pretty minor problem
20100909 18:47:39< alink> zookeeper: yes not important
20100909 18:47:40< zookeeper> usually people would see the missing image properly in the editor palette anyway, unless they were using a separate editor icon
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20100909 18:48:46< alink> it's just that I decreased the error level of missing minimap image, so I don't want that people start to miss them
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20100909 18:53:51< alink> mmh text is also barely readable when scaled in the editor palette, and there is alpha building :-/
20100909 18:54:18< alink> OtOH the error is visible enough
20100909 18:55:26< zookeeper> yeah, as long as it attracts attention it's probably fine
20100909 19:04:22< eleazzaar> zookeeper: Ok, i'm working on a list
20100909 19:04:42< eleazzaar> i see 4 random scenario generators in mulitiplayer/
20100909 19:04:52< eleazzaar> isn't there a cave generator somewhere?
20100909 19:06:34< zookeeper> eleazzaar, not that i know of
20100909 19:07:44< alink> there is a cavegen.cpp, so it's maybe hardcoded. At least it uses different c++ code
20100909 19:08:29< eleazzaar> HttT has a random cave map
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20100909 19:09:05< zookeeper> right, but i thought you were only talking about the MP ones
20100909 19:09:22< zookeeper> HttT and SoF both have one
20100909 19:10:07< eleazzaar> the MP ones are the only ones whose files i can locate
20100909 19:10:37< alink> the begginning of cavegen.cpp show some hardcoded terrains (including dwarven castle, which is probably a bad thing)
20100909 19:11:47< zookeeper> yeah
20100909 19:12:30< zookeeper> it's a very rarely touched part of the code AFAICT...probably because it's almost never really used ;)
20100909 19:16:55< alink> seems so, was added 6 years ago and code didn't change since then, besides global maintenance 
20100909 19:17:56< alink> hehe  nice commit message : http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&revision=1331
20100909 19:18:32< eleazzaar> zookeeper: here you go:
20100909 19:18:32< eleazzaar> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=455513#p455513
20100909 19:19:43< zookeeper> eleazzaar, ok, i think i can probably do that right away, i'll get to it
20100909 19:19:52< eleazzaar> many thanks :)
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20100909 19:48:12< zookeeper> eleazzaar, it's gonna take a while though, i'd like to do it right(tm)
20100909 19:52:35< anonymissimus> can mainline terrains be undefined ?
20100909 19:52:55< anonymissimus> in an addon
20100909 19:53:13< zookeeper> no
20100909 19:53:36< zookeeper> i'm not sure if you can overwrite a mainline terrain in an add-on though
20100909 19:53:40< zookeeper> i think not
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20100909 19:58:23< anonymissimus> failed to add...overwrite conflict etc
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20100909 20:01:40< Espreon> stikonas: I don't think the image format matters, but I'm not sure. Lemme test.
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20100909 20:03:03< stikonas> Espreon: editing loosy image is not really a good idea
20100909 20:03:11< Espreon> True.
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20100909 20:04:11< Espreon> beetlenaut: Around?
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20100909 20:16:46< beetlenaut> around now
20100909 20:16:58< beetlenaut> Espreon
20100909 20:18:58< Espreon> beetlenaut: Would you please recreate DW's map in the xcf?
20100909 20:20:08< beetlenaut> Yeah. I thought I had that already, but I couldn't find it.
20100909 20:20:18< beetlenaut> I'll redo it.
20100909 20:20:24< Espreon> All right.
20100909 20:20:57< Espreon> Of course, put names and such in their own layers (look at the xcf for reference).
20100909 20:22:09< Espreon> Thanks.
20100909 20:22:42< shadowmaster> Gambit: am I the only one who sees the whistle smiley disappear around the last frame?
20100909 20:23:19< Gambit> shadowmaster: Does Not Reproduce
20100909 20:24:21< zookeeper> beetlenaut, hi. i don't recall; are there any landmine surprises in DW? that is, enemies appearing (potentially lethally close to you) on moveto?
20100909 20:24:48< zookeeper> i could check each scenario's code, but i'd rather just ask ;)
20100909 20:25:15< shadowmaster> Gambit: okay...it must be the cairo package(s) I got from Debian experimental then
20100909 20:25:22< shadowmaster> I'll go back to testing/unstable for those
20100909 20:26:12< Gambit> shadowmaster: What about :lol2: ?
20100909 20:26:15< Gambit> Or :rolleyes: ?
20100909 20:26:35< shadowmaster> no, those work fine. It's only the whistle smiley that glitches here for some reason.
20100909 20:27:12< Gambit> Weird. Well afk for a while.
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20100909 20:28:05< beetlenaut> zookeeper: no, why do you ask?
20100909 20:29:37< zookeeper> beetlenaut, i've just recently been looking into eliminating those from mainline one by one, so i was just curious if there's any in DW i could try to "fix"
20100909 20:30:43< beetlenaut> Oh good. No one likes those (Except sadistic scenario designers)
20100909 20:31:08< zookeeper> yeah, they're not nice
20100909 20:33:52< shadowmaster> zookeeper: I wish you luck fixing Northern Rebirth then.
20100909 20:35:29< fendrin> hello
20100909 20:35:44< shadowmaster> hi there
20100909 20:36:00< zookeeper> shadowmaster, err, ok, when i say "mainline" i mean "mainline except for the few campaigns i never touch" ;)
20100909 20:36:11< shadowmaster> what a pity.
20100909 20:36:35< fendrin> zookeeper: Do you touch LoW and DM?
20100909 20:36:47< zookeeper> of course secretly i wish that NR eventually falls into enough disrepair that we can drop it :p
20100909 20:37:36< zookeeper> fendrin, not really. i guess i've made some small commits here and there, but especially LoW i don't want to touch much due to all the complex stuff in it like the recall list and leader shuffling.
20100909 20:37:54< zookeeper> (or was the leader shuffling only in DM?)
20100909 20:38:43< shadowmaster> Gambit: yeah, it's just Cairo being stupid. Although it is possible my GIMP install did something when encoding the GIF...
20100909 20:38:55< shadowmaster> downgrading to Cairo from Debian testing fixed it.
20100909 20:39:00< fendrin> zookeeper: DM has that changing of recall list all the time, the leader is mostly Delfador with one exception. LoW doesn't change the recall list that often but there is some leader change as well.
20100909 20:39:10< zookeeper> okay
20100909 20:39:32< Crab_> fendrin: but, LoW changes the recall list after first arc, when all veterans are left behind...
20100909 20:39:32< shadowmaster> Gambit: on the other hand, Iceweasel was updated in Debian experimental, so maybe there's a relation...
20100909 20:40:13< fendrin> Crab_: Yeah, but nothing in compare to DM. DM is just a hell of change.
20100909 20:40:18< zookeeper> also, all the years that those two campaigns spent by being really bad have left a bad taste in my mouth even though they're surely tons better now
20100909 20:40:30< Crab_> fendrin: yes
20100909 20:41:02< fendrin> Crab_: And merging as well. Elves from there join together with humans from another scenario and then kalenz is the leader and what not. 
20100909 20:41:30< fendrin> It was pretty nasty to handle all that stuff.
20100909 20:41:55< CIA-35> espreon * r46338 /trunk/ (20 files in 4 dirs): Standardized filenames and scenario ids in TB; fixed capitalization in a translatable string; did not run pofix yet.
20100909 20:41:59< Crab_> yes, it'd be a lot easier if there was specific code to handle manipulations of recall lists between scenarios
20100909 20:42:18< Espreon> Ivanovic: For some reason, pofix doesn't apply the rule I added to the po/pot files.
20100909 20:42:25< Crab_> e.g., we have persistent sides, but we can't work with them fully
20100909 20:42:42< fendrin> Crab_: Or if the normal recall list carryover would be more coder friendly in some way. 
20100909 20:42:50< Ivanovic> Espreon: any output message?
20100909 20:42:55< Crab_> e.g., we can't work with recall lists before teams are placed, and we can't touch the recall lists of sides which are not on map but are persistent
20100909 20:43:00< Ivanovic> if there is a pofix but you should talk to esr
20100909 20:43:06< Ivanovic> s/but/bug
20100909 20:43:20< shadowmaster> sure it isn't a Python bug?
20100909 20:43:21< shadowmaster> ;)
20100909 20:43:23< Crab_> fendrin: yes. so, the scenario designer is forced to reimplement the weel
20100909 20:43:25< Crab_> *wheel
20100909 20:43:30< Espreon> Ivanovic: No interesting output.
20100909 20:43:42< fendrin> Crab_: Right, maybe that can be solved as another gsoc project.
20100909 20:43:53< Crab_> fendrin: yes, it can.
20100909 20:44:22< Crab_> fendrin: basically, it'll be a continuation of one of gsoc projects from 2009
20100909 20:44:40< Ivanovic> Espreon: and you are sure that the conversion is not somehow covered by a different one?
20100909 20:44:59< Ivanovic> or that there are not two rules active for a line?
20100909 20:45:02< esr> Espreon: You need to go look at SpellingMistakes.  There are a raft of complaints on it about two-byte characterts that I think are due to you introducing sexed quotes.  Please fix them.
20100909 20:45:09< Crab_> fendrin: btw, 'allow to manipulate things before team construction' would also allow some things like 'allow player to select options not present in lobby before game starts'
20100909 20:45:19< Ivanovic> no idea what the limitations of pofix.py are
20100909 20:45:31< Espreon> Ivanovic: Yeah, it's not covered by any other rule.
20100909 20:46:16< Ivanovic> Espreon: in case you are not aware of the site: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SpellingMistakes
20100909 20:47:15< fendrin> Crab_: And maybe even a difficult chooser for multiplayer campaigns.
20100909 20:48:41< Crab_> fendrin: diff chooser is better left for the lobby...
20100909 20:48:50< Crab_> fendrin: since it, as of now, preprocessor stuff
20100909 20:49:50< fendrin> Crab_: Yes right. I was thinking about it being in the lobby.
20100909 20:50:34< Crab_> it has to take a sneak peek at the map file, see what diffs are available, and then load the correct version...
20100909 20:51:10< Espreon> esr: I don't see any screwed up characters. Perhaps the reporter's files got screwed up.
20100909 20:52:28< esr> Delete the bug reports you can't reproduce, then.  I don't want anything to do with that whole headache.
20100909 20:53:46< fendrin> Crab_: There are many more issues with the lobby regarding multiplayer campaigns. But most of them can be done after macro expansion.
20100909 20:54:01< Espreon> esr: Would you please take a look at the pofix code? Pofix doesn't apply a rule I just added to the po/pot files.
20100909 20:54:39< esr> Espreon: What rule?
20100909 20:54:45< fendrin> Crab_: I think the best solution would be to introduce a [multiplayer_campaign] tag. Currently a multiplayer campaign is just a set of scenarios.
20100909 20:55:22< fendrin> Crab_: This tag is read before the scenarios get macro expanded. And there is the definition of the difficult levels right now but only for singleplayer campaigns.
20100909 20:55:29< Espreon> esr: ("Rooting Out A Mage", "Rooting Out a Mage"),
20100909 20:56:39< Crab_> difficulty levels are not only for MP campaigns, but for MP scenarios as well...
20100909 20:56:55< Crab_> and we can read them after macroses are expanded, it'll be easier that way
20100909 20:57:02< esr> Espreon: looking...
20100909 20:57:12< Crab_> just reread and reexpand after adding the difficulty define..
20100909 20:57:53< fendrin> Hmmm, I would go and copy the way it is done with singleplayer campaigns.
20100909 20:58:17< Espreon> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SpellingMistakes#Son_of_the_Black_Eye — "Can't translate"... LOL, hwæt?
20100909 20:58:36< fendrin> If a scenario wants to have a difficult setup it can use the new tag. It doesn't need to be named "campaign".
20100909 20:58:54< Crab_> fendrin: 'do as sp does' -  that requires each MP scenario/campaign to have +1 extra file with the definition
20100909 20:59:16< fendrin> Crab_: No, it doesn't.
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20100909 20:59:58< fendrin> Crab_: Have a look at the thing. Everything else is just guarded by IFDEF #CAMPAIGN_NAME now. You can do that in a single file as well.
20100909 21:00:11< Espreon> Hello Simons_Mith.
20100909 21:00:32< Simons_Mith> Espreon: hello!
20100909 21:00:58< Simons_Mith> Just catching up on the chat log
20100909 21:01:34< esr> Espreon: I don't see any obviious bug.
20100909 21:01:40< Espreon> Hmmmm...
20100909 21:02:10< Crab_> fendrin: ah, clever.
20100909 21:02:14< Crab_> fendrin: yes, you're right, then
20100909 21:02:26< esr> Simons_Mith: I like the list of notes you added to SpellingMistakes.  But perhaps it actually belongs in NotSpellingMistakes?
20100909 21:03:04< fendrin> Crab_: Well, at least I hope it is so. Can you put several [scenario] in one file? I think it is doable. 
20100909 21:03:38< Simons_Mith> esr: Ye-es. It was partly a question of where it would be most likely to be seen. If it gets long enough it might even warrant its own page.
20100909 21:04:39< Simons_Mith> That's my eventual plan for it
20100909 21:05:05< Simons_Mith> Want to do writing style guide and UI style guide too.
20100909 21:06:02< Espreon> esr: Then what is to be done?
20100909 21:06:44< esr> Espreon: You may have to learn enough Python to implement a debugging switch :-)
20100909 21:06:53< Espreon> ...
20100909 21:07:00< Espreon> Not funny.
20100909 21:07:19< Simons_Mith> Epreon: Yes it was :-)
20100909 21:07:24< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46339 /trunk/data/core/macros/terrain-utils.cfg: Added a new SCATTER_EMBELLISHMENTS macro which can be used, unsurprisingly, to randomly scatter embellishments.
20100909 21:07:48< Espreon> 'Twas not.
20100909 21:08:42< Simons_Mith> All right. 'Learn Python' is another thing on my list of stuff to do too, bu don't hold your breath.
20100909 21:09:35 * Espreon has a better chance of mastering Proto-Indo-European than Python.
20100909 21:10:17< Simons_Mith> esr: pofix only appears to respect commented out lines if the # is the first char on the line.
20100909 21:10:21< Simons_Mith> Or am I reading it wrong?
20100909 21:11:03< esr> Simons_Mith: Looking...
20100909 21:12:34< esr> Simons_Mith: I think you're reading it wrong.  re.sub() doesn't require a match anchored at start of string.
20100909 21:12:44< Simons_Mith> Espreon: BTW, I've just apostrophised (if 'apostrophised' wasn't a word before, it is now) tips.cfg. 
20100909 21:13:53< Espreon> Cool.
20100909 21:14:02< fendrin> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=455488#p455488 rofl
20100909 21:15:30< Simons_Mith> new tips.cfg On the forums: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=31577
20100909 21:15:54< Simons_Mith> That's mainly to get feedback on the half-dozen new ones I;'ve added.
20100909 21:16:44< Espreon> Simons_Mith: Did you make pofix rules tips.cfg? If so, please give them to me.
20100909 21:16:50< Espreon> *rules for
20100909 21:18:05< Simons_Mith> not yet. Actually, I think I'll start with a diff. I did change quite a lot.
20100909 21:20:22< Espreon> All right.
20100909 21:23:21< Simons_Mith> Crikey, by the time I'd made all the markup consistent throughout the entire tips db, and done the editing, it looks like there's more changed than not. Like the tutorial, I think it ought to be actively okayed rather than just slipped in.
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20100909 21:28:26< Simons_Mith> Espreon: I'll add a new patch later tonight, marked for your attention.
20100909 21:28:42< Espreon> OK, thanks.
20100909 21:33:23< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46340 /trunk/data/multiplayer/scenarios/ (4 files): Added random embellishments to random MP maps. However, these won't show up in the map editor.
20100909 21:34:20< zookeeper> eleazzaar, ^ there you go. i did a few small changes to the patterns you gave and dropped your frequencies to about half of what they were since using what you gave me the map ended up very crowded
20100909 21:35:10< eleazzaar> that's fine-- i was just picking numbers out of the air
20100909 21:36:10< zookeeper> yeah, i actually ended up with six windmills on the screen at once initially :P
20100909 21:36:35< zookeeper> (and yes, i'm checking to make sure i just didn't botch up my algorithm...)
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20100909 21:38:02< Simons_Mith> Espreon: Patch 1926 (core), i've compiled the changes into my build of a couple of days ago. Still haven't noticed anything wrong. #1906, zookeeper's on the case.
20100909 21:38:23< Simons_Mith>  #1911, apart from the duplicate msgid issue, also appears fine. As the dupe msgids are gradually all being eliminated anyway, what do you want me to do with it next?
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20100909 21:39:53< zookeeper> eleazzaar, oh, and btw we still want to change the roads to cobbled ones in the generators...currently all roads are dirt so you get crops on them :p i can do that in an hour or so
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20100909 21:46:08< Ivanovic> Simons_Mith: have you not said that you want to rework stuff for #1906 so that zookeeper should *not* check it yet?
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20100909 21:48:09< Simons_Mith> I did rework it, and already sent him a PM informing him the corrected version was available. 
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20100909 21:59:16< Espreon> Ivanovic: What is to be done if the rule cannot be applied? Let the string fuzzy?
20100909 21:59:40< Ivanovic> 1) check why it might not be applied
20100909 21:59:55< Ivanovic> if you find really no possible cause: remove the rule and let the string go fuzzy
20100909 22:00:03< Ivanovic> though i'd assume some typo first
20100909 22:00:11< Ivanovic> or a newline in the "to be replaced" string
20100909 22:01:37< Espreon> Ivanovic: Yeah, it's just not applying, and I copied the stuff directly from the pot.
20100909 22:03:51< CIA-35> espreon * r46341 /trunk/utils/pofix.py: Removed a rule that doesn't work.
20100909 22:05:44< loonycyborg> Espreon: There is a possibility that one of my changes there caused it, but I tested by undoing one of substitutions and it reapplied them.
20100909 22:06:13< Espreon> loonycyborg: Shall I readd it and have you try to solve the problem?
20100909 22:07:39< loonycyborg> Fixes seem to be organized by textdomains. Are you sure you're adding to right domain?
20100909 22:08:01< Espreon> Yes.
20100909 22:08:06< loonycyborg> I can revert that change myself locally.
20100909 22:08:27< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: IIRC the textdomain in there is irrelevanz
20100909 22:08:30< Ivanovic> s/z/t
20100909 22:08:33< Espreon> Indeed.
20100909 22:08:44< Ivanovic> seems to only be some kind of "where i expect the string to appear"
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20100909 22:19:16< CIA-35> espreon * r46342 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixed a string; removed the pofix rule that was supposed to add a period to that string.
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20100909 22:35:37< loonycyborg> Espreon: Interesting. It doesn't apply the fix even with my changes reverted.
20100909 22:36:12< Espreon> Oh wow...
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20100909 22:43:36< Espreon> Awww...
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20100909 22:46:19< loonycyborg> Espreon: There are two "wesnoth-tb" domains in pofix.py, and if I make it print fixes from domain it's actually applies changes from then it prints from fixes from the second one,
20100909 22:46:42< loonycyborg> Namely ("4 scenarios; the 'Hard' version may challenge", "4 scenarios; the ‘Hard’ version may challenge")
20100909 22:47:59< Espreon> Well, I guess I'll merge them.
20100909 22:51:39< loonycyborg> { "a" : 1, "a" : 2 } ends up {'a': 2}. I wonder why it doesn't emit an error instead..
20100909 22:51:49 * Espreon shrugs
20100909 22:54:23< Ivanovic> Espreon: i can explain why your replacement was not working:
20100909 22:54:26< Espreon> loonycyborg: Merging them did the trick.
20100909 22:54:33< Ivanovic> you need something in front and *behind* the change you want done
20100909 22:54:41< Ivanovic> adding something just at the end ain't working because of this
20100909 22:56:51< Espreon> Note to self: smite Simons.
20100909 22:56:54< CIA-35> espreon * r46343 /trunk/ (54 files in 2 dirs): Readded the capitalization correction rule; merged the two wesnoth-tb domain things; applied pofix to wesnoth-tb.
20100909 22:56:56< loonycyborg> Espreon: Great! :)
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20100909 23:03:10< anonymissimus> is there a way to [unit_type][base_unit] for terrains, that is redefine only the terrain base or so
20100909 23:04:28< CIA-35> espreon * r46344 /branches/1.8/data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/scenarios/09_A_Small_Favor3.cfg: Ported part of r46342 to 1.8.
20100909 23:04:58< anonymissimus> for the terrain graphics to be more specific
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