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20100925 00:23:36< Gambit> anonymissimus: You still need someone in the server?
20100925 00:23:49< anonymissimus> um no
20100925 00:23:53< anonymissimus> wait
20100925 00:23:59< Gambit> Oh wait I have trunk not 1.9. /me looks for port number
20100925 00:24:03< Gambit> Or not
20100925 00:24:30< anonymissimus> now
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20100925 00:25:34< Gambit> I'm in I think.
20100925 00:25:35< anonymissimus> why don't you submit your gold patch ?
20100925 00:25:48< Gambit> Err no I went to trunk's
20100925 00:25:49< Gambit> :\
20100925 00:25:50< anonymissimus> yes I see you :)
20100925 00:25:50< Gambit> Hold on
20100925 00:25:53< Gambit> Oh okay.
20100925 00:26:23< anonymissimus> where can you specify a port number ?
20100925 00:26:32< Gambit> "connect to server"
20100925 00:26:38< Gambit> "wesnoth.org:15000"
20100925 00:26:55< anonymissimus> uh, crashed
20100925 00:28:22< anonymissimus> hm communication error
20100925 00:29:21< anonymissimus> I compile with the old network stuff I think
20100925 00:29:37< anonymissimus> instead of ana thats why I'm worried
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20100925 01:28:51< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: Mac build up in ~3.3 hours
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20100925 01:46:18< AI0867> fendrin: I haven't, all I've done so far is get it up to date
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20100925 01:58:54< CIA-35> eleazar * r46724 /trunk/ (579 files in 3 dirs): converting the ocean variants to auto-recolor and adding a third ocean variant (Wog).
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20100925 02:58:36< shadowmaster> shikadibot: repo
20100925 02:58:36< shikadibot> Repository URI: http://svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth
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20100925 05:23:41< un214> anybody know about that strange bug where sometimes a unit will be robbed of its MP?
20100925 05:24:04< un214> has sometihng to do with network disconnect or something
20100925 05:30:02< un214> ah here we are https://gna.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=16299#options
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20100925 06:47:58< fendrin> AI0867: Oh, then the wiki is representing a state in the future :-)
20100925 06:56:29< shadowm_laptop> where? sounds fun
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20100925 07:41:47< fendrin> shadowm_laptop: shadowm_laptop
20100925 07:41:55< shadowm_laptop> fendrin: fendrin 
20100925 07:41:56< fendrin> shadowm_laptop: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/DirectActionsWML#.5Btunnel.5D
20100925 07:42:43< shadowmaster> is that the awesome wiki fragment frmom the future?
20100925 07:42:50< fendrin> Yes :-)
20100925 07:43:08< shadowmaster> I suppose that means that the relevant code has not been marged into trunk yet.
20100925 07:44:31< fendrin> shadowmaster: Right. It had been in for some time but you know, my code gets removed faster than I can write and commit it ;-P
20100925 07:46:27< shadowmaster> I sometimes wish that happened to my code too.
20100925 07:46:44< shadowmaster> I can't look at the monstrosity that is src/storyscreen/ anymore
20100925 07:47:36< fendrin> shadowmaster: It is working well. As long as it doesn't make things more complicated for other regions or eats a lot of cpu/ram it should be fine.
20100925 07:47:36 * shadowmaster goes back to his beautiful Perl code.
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20100925 09:47:04< Ivanovic> moin
20100925 09:53:36< CIA-35> jetryl * r46725 /trunk/data/core/ (72 files in 3 dirs): Added animations for the saurian oracle.
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20100925 10:04:53< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: is there some easy way to extend the windows installer that a reboot might be required to have fonts displayed correctly?
20100925 10:05:53< Ivanovic> fendrin: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31730&start=0
20100925 10:15:22< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Yes. Though I'm still mystified why it happens. Hopefully I won't forget to update the version of pango/cairo used for next dev version.
20100925 10:15:37< loonycyborg> Maybe that'll fix it..
20100925 10:15:44< Ivanovic> could be
20100925 10:16:01< Ivanovic> though it happens basically everywhere in the windows binary from what i heard
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20100925 10:16:25< Ivanovic> that is also eg in the main menu of the 1.8.x series which is the non pangocairo based
20100925 10:16:39< loonycyborg> It doesn't for me :/
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20100925 10:20:20< shadowmaster> that's odd considering that the windows installer doesn't install fonts to Windows' fonts dir
20100925 10:20:51< shadowmaster> unless someone changed that, which would bring the rage of the Windows purists upon us
20100925 10:21:23< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: in theory the fonts should be there and "just work"
20100925 10:21:35< Ivanovic> i don't see anything that a reboot should change in regards to wesnoth
20100925 10:22:06< Ivanovic> we don't touch any system files, don't alter any running programs, ...
20100925 10:22:54< shadowmaster> since there doesn't seem to be any cause in Wesnoth's code or packaging, and both the Pango and freetype backends are affected, you can probably blame Microsoft.
20100925 10:23:06< Ivanovic> but this is windows, it does not behave as deterministic as sane systems where you get the same error in a reproducible fashion and a reboot ain't the magic wand
20100925 10:23:27< Ivanovic> either windows or some 3rd party app running
20100925 10:23:30< shadowmaster> it might be yet another "ridiculously obscure bug that nobody is really supposed to come across ever"
20100925 10:23:42< Ivanovic> some virus scanner or some other kind of "monitor software"
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20100925 10:32:47< silene> isn't it some dumb "need to restart the font server" issue like it was in the old X times when there was a font server there too?
20100925 10:44:08< shadowmaster> I've never had issues with installing fonts and using them without restarting on Windows 95 and later.
20100925 10:44:34< shadowmaster> individual apps may need to be restarted though, just like in current X.org based Linux distros
20100925 10:44:41< loonycyborg> Since that happens even with SDL_ttf which just reads the font file directly then the only reason can be that something makes that file unreadable for some reason..
20100925 10:45:13< shadowmaster> hence I suspect it's an  improbably obscure bug in the Windows libraries for...stuff.
20100925 10:45:52< shadowmaster> who knows, the bug could even be in a network API library, and yet it somehow affects file reads because...uh...it's closed source.
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20100925 10:47:21< mordante> servus
20100925 10:49:21< silene> loonycyborg: you sure? i thought sdl_ttf was relying on the freetype library to load fonts
20100925 10:51:05< loonycyborg> Yes. That. But freetype doesn't rely much on OS functions either afaik.
20100925 10:53:01< shadowmaster> half of me is curious about exactly what's the relation between the X11 framework, Xft and freetype on Linux.
20100925 10:53:15< shadowmaster> the other half says that I already know too many disgusting things in that area so I should not ask for more.
20100925 10:54:27< mordante> shadowmaster, regarding http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31725 pango < 1.20 can't set the height properly
20100925 10:55:01< shadowm_laptop> mordante: then it's your fault for saying that we just need >= 1.14.x in the INSTALL file
20100925 10:55:20< shadowm_laptop> 1.14.8 to be specific, in 1.8 and trunk.
20100925 10:55:52< shadowm_laptop> If I had known that I'd not have wasted so much time helping spookymagician's mate with that. Now I know.
20100925 10:55:52< shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20100925 10:56:04< mordante> shadowm_laptop, it checks it in the code and ignores the height for older pango versions
20100925 10:56:37< shadowm_laptop> that doesn't make it any less broken.
20100925 10:56:55< mordante> haven't increased the requirement since people still use the old version
20100925 10:57:18< shadowm_laptop> those people who still use the old version will have broken story screens then.
20100925 10:57:31< mordante> yup
20100925 10:58:02< shadowm_laptop> which is terrible since less than 25% (?????) of our mainline story screens have lines that don't fit in the most common singlescreen display widths
20100925 10:58:03< mordante> maybe I will bump the version before 1.9
20100925 10:58:09< shadowm_laptop> so go and change the INSTALL file.
20100925 10:58:19< silene> shadowm_laptop: and broken titlescreen and broken wml messages and...
20100925 10:58:41< mordante> silene, no it only breaks if you fix the height
20100925 10:58:57< mordante> which I don't use in my gui2 code
20100925 10:59:02< shadowm_laptop> only my code adjusts the height due to perfectly reasonable reasons.
20100925 10:59:54< mordante> shadowm_laptop, I'm not changing the INSTALL file before discussing it on the dev-ml
20100925 10:59:59< shadowm_laptop> wait- if you don't set the maximum height, then what do you do to prevent message screens from overflowing ?
20100925 11:00:26< mordante> adding scrollbars
20100925 11:00:44< shadowm_laptop> gods.
20100925 11:01:06< Soliton> well, just add a note that it only really works with version 1.20+. there is nothing to discuss about that.
20100925 11:01:34< shadowmaster> mordante: some random user mentioned that 1.9.x suffers from an odd bug in the titlescreen that makes the The End screen appear when pressing Enter. Just in case you didn't know about it.
20100925 11:01:59< silene> mordante: set_maximum_height is called from gui/widgets/text_box.cpp which is gui2
20100925 11:02:09< shadowmaster> although I'm the who classified it as a bug, I think. http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/106-Not-a-bug.html
20100925 11:03:25< shadowmaster> mordante: oh btw, don't forget to tell that forumer what the problem is ^^
20100925 11:03:31< silene> mordante: and from gui/auxiliary/canvas.cpp
20100925 11:04:12< mordante> silene, ok odd well I tested it with 1.2.14 at that time and worked, but maybe just look at bumping the requirement
20100925 11:04:35< mordante> 1.14*
20100925 11:04:51< mordante> and that version is indeed by now quite ancient
20100925 11:12:20< CIA-35> thespaceinvader * r46726 /trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Add and wire new Drake Blademaster portrait by myself and LordBob. Update changelogs, portrait credits.
20100925 11:13:50< CIA-35> mordante * r46727 /trunk/changelog: Reformat changelog.
20100925 11:13:55< CIA-35> mordante * r46728 /trunk/ (changelog data/core/hotkeys.cfg): 
20100925 11:13:55< CIA-35> Changed the refresh cache Mac hotkey to CMD+F5.
20100925 11:13:55< CIA-35> (Fixes bug #16744)
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20100925 11:21:20< CIA-35> mordante * r46729 /trunk/data/core/hotkeys.cfg: Fix an error in my last commit.
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20100925 11:38:37< CIA-35> mordante * r46730 /trunk/ (changelog src/gui/dialogs/title_screen.cpp): 
20100925 11:38:37< CIA-35> Don't assert if no tips are defined.
20100925 11:38:37< CIA-35> (Fixes bug #16731).
20100925 11:45:29< CIA-35> mordante * r46731 /trunk/ (changelog src/gui/dialogs/title_screen.cpp): 
20100925 11:45:29< CIA-35> Disable enter in the title screen.
20100925 11:45:29< CIA-35> No longer shows 'The End' followed by the credits.
20100925 11:45:31< mordante> shadowmaster, Unnheulu ^
20100925 11:45:59< Unnheulu> Huh?
20100925 11:46:03< Unnheulu> Aww
20100925 11:46:12< Unnheulu> :P
20100925 11:48:02< mordante> well you reported it to shadowmaster 
20100925 11:48:12< Unnheulu> Not as a bug ofc
20100925 11:48:28< Unnheulu> shadowmaster reported it as a bug, rather than a rather cool feature
20100925 11:48:29< mordante> no just an unwanted feature
20100925 11:48:58< Unnheulu> Heh
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20100925 12:27:37< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46733 /branches/resources/images/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Added the .svg files for lurker's wood bridge.
20100925 12:29:15< zookeeper> eh, how the heck did the files end up there...
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20100925 14:37:59< scibotic> Hi zookeeper.
20100925 14:38:33< scibotic> Had to do some research on medieval european fashion and armour, managed to pick up a couple of reference books.
20100925 14:51:48< CIA-35> thespaceinvader * r46735 /trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Add and wire new Hurricane Drake portrait by myself. Update changelogs, portrait credits.
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20100925 17:56:05< anonymissimus> silene: in .valid the returned valus for recall list/ on map units are exchanged
20100925 17:56:48< FAAB1> hi silene, I have a problem with a lua AI, can you help ?
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20100925 18:10:00< FAAB1> for any candidate, my code is here: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/ai/ais/lua_ai_curse.cfg?revision=7605&view=markup
20100925 18:10:49< FAAB1> I have a trouble passing the argument from the evaluation function (line 167) and the execution function (line 201)
20100925 18:11:43< FAAB1> the debug message at lines 203/204 give me cfg.me and cfg.target are nil
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20100925 18:20:43< silene> anonymissimus: indeed; (the code i had tested initially was correct, but then i decided units on map were more common and i exchanged the tests; didn't occur to me that i should exchange the values too...)
20100925 18:21:10< silene> FAAB1: what do you expect them to be?
20100925 18:21:38< anonymissimus> hehe :P
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20100925 18:23:38< FAAB1> silene: shouldn't they be at the value I set line 197 ?
20100925 18:27:39< silene> FAAB1: is the code at line 197 executed? (i don't know much about the ai, so my questions will seem dumb)
20100925 18:30:02< FAAB1> so Crab would be the guy to ask then ? I thought it was you as you seem like being the lua guy
20100925 18:31:40< silene> FAAB1: i'm the lua guy, crab is the ai guy, and yours is a ai matter (but perhaps i can still help)
20100925 18:32:18< FAAB1> so yes line 197 is executed
20100925 18:34:31< FAAB1> could it be because the value are set as return of the evaluation function are stored in a local variable (line 168 and 170) ?
20100925 18:35:02< FAAB1> *the values that are set ...
20100925 18:35:40< silene> FAAB1: no, i think the issue is that the ai code expects a wml object, you are returning a lua table that can't be translated to one
20100925 18:38:24< FAAB1> there is an example, let me find the link
20100925 18:38:31< FAAB1> shikadibot: repo
20100925 18:38:32< shikadibot> Repository URI: http://svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth
20100925 18:39:27< silene> FAAB1: looking at the c++ code, i'm sure that's your issue, the content of your table is just discarded by the engine (and crab didn't put a warning message about it, i will add one)
20100925 18:40:33< FAAB1> function candidate_action_evaluation_hello returns a value used in the execution function candidate_action_execution_hello in the code http://svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/trunk/data/ai/scenarios/scenario-lua-ai.cfg
20100925 18:41:12< FAAB1> ok, so should I use wesnoth.set_variable then ?
20100925 18:41:29< silene> FAAB1: note that, in the example, the table has the format of a wml object
20100925 18:41:40< silene> FAAB1: no, just arrange your fields another way
20100925 18:42:10< silene> something like: { { "me", { x = ..., y = ... } }, { "target", { x = ..., y = ... } } } for instance
20100925 18:42:28< silene> (and access them back accordingly)
20100925 18:43:59< FAAB1> ok I will try, thanks a lot !
20100925 18:45:38< CIA-35> silene * r46736 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Fixed inverted placement values.
20100925 18:47:24< CIA-35> silene * r46737 /trunk/src/ai/lua/core.cpp: Added error output for misformated WML objects in AI functions.
20100925 18:48:43< silene> FAAB1: while my suggestion would work, you may also use a simpler structure, e.g. { me_x=..., me_y=..., target_x=..., target_y=... }
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20100925 18:55:17< FAAB1> silene: still not working, where is the C++ code you were looking at ?
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20100925 18:56:04< FAAB1> I changed line 197 into return result[1][2], {{"me", {x=result[1][1].x, y=result[1][1].y}}, {"target" , {x=result[1][3].x, y=result[1][3].y}}}
20100925 18:56:51< FAAB1> do I need the fixes you have just made ?
20100925 18:57:11< silene> FAAB1: no, you don't need them; how did you change line 205?
20100925 18:57:32< silene> (or line 203)
20100925 18:58:01< FAAB1> yeah, I have now local me = wesnoth.get_unit(cfg.me.x, cfg.me.y)
20100925 18:58:42< silene> that won't work, cfg doesn't have a "me" field, it only has two unnamed fields 1 and 2
20100925 18:59:05< silene> if that confuses you, just use the flatter structure i suggested
20100925 18:59:44< FAAB1> so it will be cfg.me_x on the receiving side ?
20100925 18:59:51< silene> yes
20100925 19:00:00< FAAB1> hold on
20100925 19:00:16< silene> with the complicated structure, it would have been cfg[1][2].x
20100925 19:09:39< FAAB1> ok, that is working now
20100925 19:10:05< FAAB1> I have another problem later but the arguemnts are just fine :)
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20100925 19:15:12< FAAB1> anyway that is the work for another day, thanks a bunch for your help
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20100925 19:16:06< CIA-35> silene * r46738 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: Saturated modified defense values. (Fix for bug #16730.)
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20100925 19:24:43< CIA-35> alink * r46739 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix rare cases breaking encapsulation of SDL_Surface by surface
20100925 19:25:06< CIA-35> alink * r46740 /trunk/src/sdl_utils.hpp: Directly use surface in the new SDL wrappers
20100925 19:25:06< CIA-35> alink * r46741 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics/internal-generic.cfg: 
20100925 19:25:06< CIA-35> Also use the single hex trick in the new animated water macros.
20100925 19:25:06< CIA-35> This restores some 1.9.1 optimization recently lost.
20100925 19:25:06< CIA-35> (still planned to make c++ detect this)
20100925 19:35:02< Ivanovic> alink: any news from your opengl tests?
20100925 19:36:48< alink> yes, my SDL/OpenGL translators can now start and run editor \o/  
20100925 19:37:03< alink> I mean without any visible problems (except slower scrolling)
20100925 19:37:11< Gambit> Hmm more of those "missing extension" errors http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31737
20100925 19:38:17< alink> I still get 50fps on a full animated water map, but adding more terrain transitions hurts it
20100925 19:38:41< Soliton> Gambit: old data lying around somewhere.
20100925 19:38:44< CIA-35> silene * r46742 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: Fixed discrepancy of missing defense values between help and effects. (Fix for bug #16730.)
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20100925 19:40:19< alink> Ivanovic: titlescreen works too, but sometimes crash, probably because of tooltip
20100925 19:41:43< alink> GUI1 seems mostly ok. I didn't tested main game yet, but test-scenario still crashed
20100925 19:45:34< Ivanovic> hey, it is a start
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20100925 20:02:50< CIA-35> soliton * r46743 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
20100925 20:02:50< CIA-35> * Decreased the XP requirement of the Mage from 60 to 54.
20100925 20:02:51< CIA-35> * Decreased the XP requirement of the White Mage from 150 to 136.
20100925 20:02:51< CIA-35> * Decreased the XP requirement of the Mermaid Priestess from 150 to 132.
20100925 20:02:52< CIA-35> soliton * r46744 /trunk/data/core/hotkeys.cfg: changed the refresh cache hotkey to ctrl+F5 for macs (fixes bug #16744)
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20100925 20:33:31< alink> Ivanovic: I got test-scenario running with all features it seems   \o/
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20100925 20:33:38< Ivanovic> WOW!
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20100925 20:34:05< alink> just disabled blur behind turn dialog
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20100925 20:35:40< Ivanovic> hehe
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20100925 20:36:19< Gambit> (Are we talkig about openGL?)
20100925 20:36:24< alink> starting a campaign works, but some GUI2 menu don't, when that will be fixed, game should be playable
20100925 20:36:41< alink> Gambit: yes, but just a hack for now
20100925 20:37:17< Gambit> alink: Well way to go anyways! That's awesome.
20100925 20:42:14< alink> I am happy that, even if much slower, it works well enough to provide a decent fallback for unoptimized parts during OpenGL transition
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20100925 21:53:48< anonymissimus> zookeeper: have you checked whether your ON_SIGHTING macro adds lag to wesnoth when units move ?
20100925 21:55:36< anonymissimus> hm ok the SLF only fires when there is a sigthing thats good
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20100925 22:14:42< anonymissimus> zookeeper: there is a major flaw in your on_sithing macro
20100925 22:15:28< anonymissimus> in case that the sighted unit did move and has few max_moves it can happen that primary_unit isn't set
20100925 22:15:41< anonymissimus> although thew sighted unit is already visible
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20100925 22:17:37< anonymissimus> um no was wrong sorry, you filter for the sighting unit always
20100925 22:23:45 * Soliton . o O (on_sithing? must be a macro from the dark side.)
20100925 22:24:09< anonymissimus> well yes thats probably the best workaround without using lua; why did you exchange unit and second_unit in the resulting event compared to the sighted event ?
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20100925 22:59:18< alink> Aaah got the last one and it was GUI1 problems, not GUI2
20100925 23:01:02< alink> well, SDL undocumented behavior when mixing it with OpenGL (lasy SDL didn't reset the screen clipping because it assumed that we will only use OpenGL)
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20100925 23:02:03< alink> Now all work, visually identical, except a missing darker background behind some text in menu, but you need to know the game to notice it
20100925 23:03:39< alink> and it seems to never crash anymore 
20100925 23:04:41< alink> yeah uncrashable :)
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