--- Log opened Fri Sep 24 00:00:25 2010
20100924 00:15:32< Mica> shikadibot: seen espreon?
20100924 00:31:01-!- SpoOkyMagician [~chatzilla@74-138-202-211.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100914125854]]
20100924 00:32:51< Gambit> wesbot: see Espreon?
20100924 00:32:57< Gambit> wesbot: seen Espreon?
20100924 00:32:57<+wesbot> Gambit: The person with the nick Espreon last spoke 23h 43m ago.  23h 30m ago person left:
20100924 00:33:02< Mica> oh wrong bot
20100924 00:33:05< Mica> brb
20100924 01:08:49< Gambit> Haha from freenode policy:
20100924 01:08:51< Gambit> "Avoid advocacy debates. BSD versus GPL, vi versus emacs, centralized versus decentralized, RMS versus ESR: these discussions are frequently religious and may not involve significant new ideas. They can also raise the channel temperature quite a bit. Certain advocacy discussions, such as those revolving around actual religion or politics, are almost guaranteed to raise the channel temperature to levels that make other conversation difficult. "
20100924 01:09:06< Gambit> We all know who wins in RMS versus ESR.
20100924 01:09:09< Gambit> Amirite?
20100924 01:09:14< esr> *snort*
20100924 01:09:34< esr> RMS cannot prevail against my m4d ninja skillz!
20100924 01:13:13-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20100924 01:13:15< shadowm_laptop> nobody wins
20100924 01:13:17< shadowm_laptop> except me
20100924 01:13:23< shadowm_laptop> :p
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20100924 01:13:54 * esr does a stupid flashy move with a katana.
20100924 01:14:41< esr> Wait.  I don't own a katana.  Never mind.
20100924 01:23:09< loonycyborg> Use your handgun instead :P
20100924 01:23:38< loonycyborg> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GunFu
20100924 01:27:37< esr> Oh, *that* one.  Damn stupid trope, actually.  *Last* thing you do if you have a firearm is close to hand-to-hand range - and I speak as one competent with both.
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20100924 02:02:21< Mica> Gambit: You're knowledgeable. How can I find Wesnoth add-on archives?
20100924 02:03:15< Gambit> addons.wesnoth.org
20100924 02:05:09< Mica> Gracias senor
20100924 02:08:13-!- Mica_ [~Mica@d27-96-76-1.nap.wideopenwest.com] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev
20100924 02:09:42< Mica_> Gambit: What do you use to read .cfg files? I'm trying to remember a good program D:
20100924 02:10:34< Gambit> What OS?
20100924 02:10:56< Gambit> I use Kate these days because shadowmaster coded a plugin that gives it syntax highlighting
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20100924 02:11:27< Gambit> Also one of the GSoC projects this year was that someone wrote a complete WML IDE
20100924 02:11:31< Gambit> So you might want to look into that
20100924 02:11:33< Mica> Windows
20100924 02:11:37< Gambit> It's a plugin for eclipse.
20100924 02:11:45< Gambit> Yeah on windows I used notepad
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20100924 02:12:30< Mica> THANKS! It's Notepad ++ that I was looking for !
20100924 02:12:45< Mica> It's amazing
20100924 02:12:47< Mica> I love it
20100924 02:13:10< Gambit> But
20100924 02:13:15< Gambit> does it WML syntax highlighting?
20100924 02:13:16< Gambit> Eh?
20100924 02:13:25< Gambit> closing tag auto completion
20100924 02:13:27< Gambit> macro exploration
20100924 02:13:37< Gambit> front ends to wmllint, wmlindent, and wmlscope
20100924 02:13:45< Gambit> And buttons to test your code directly in game?
20100924 02:13:56< Gambit> [/advertisements for the WML IDE]
20100924 02:13:58< Gambit> Actually one more
20100924 02:14:04< Gambit> http://eclipse.wesnoth.org/
20100924 02:14:07< Gambit> now [/]
20100924 02:15:44< Mica> lol
20100924 02:15:55< Mica> It allows me to find things easy, counts the lines for me, etc etc
20100924 02:16:06< Gambit> the WML IDE does that
20100924 02:16:08< Gambit> And more
20100924 02:16:16< Gambit> you can IIRC shrink sections of code
20100924 02:16:23< Gambit> like minimize an [if] block
20100924 02:16:30< Gambit> So why don't I use it?
20100924 02:16:32< Gambit> Uhh...
20100924 02:16:35< Gambit> Ummmm
20100924 02:16:46< Mica> Yeah..
20100924 02:16:47< Gambit> I'm not at liberty to disclose that information at this time.
20100924 02:16:51< Mica> You can do that with notepad ++ XD
20100924 02:16:57< Gambit> Like Notepad++ I found it to be extremely bulky
20100924 02:19:24< Mica> Oh my god
20100924 02:19:31< Mica> I fucking LOVE Mythological's WML
20100924 02:19:33< Mica> It's so clean
20100924 02:19:40< Mica> it's NOTHING like Bob_The_Mighty's
20100924 02:19:44< Mica> his is so HORRIBLY MESSY XD
20100924 02:20:00< PeterPorty> O.o
20100924 02:20:18< Mica> Oh, I'm looking at Undead Empire. jb wanted me to help him revive the project
20100924 02:20:19< PeterPorty> Bob is my hero.
20100924 02:20:23< Mica> And the coding was done by Mythological
20100924 02:20:27< Mica> Bob has sloppy WML
20100924 02:20:33< PeterPorty> O.o
20100924 02:20:35< Mica> It was almost impossible for me to take over ANL
20100924 02:20:38< Mica> I had to clean it up
20100924 02:20:42< Mica> before I could do anything
20100924 02:20:43< PeterPorty> He's a WML Wizzard
20100924 02:20:45< Mica> And that took HOURS
20100924 02:20:53< Mica> So?
20100924 02:20:57< Gambit> PeterPorty: He's my hero too
20100924 02:21:02< Mica> He's great with it, yeah. But he's not good at keeping it neat
20100924 02:21:02< Gambit> That doesn't mean his code isn't a giant landfill.
20100924 02:21:03< PeterPorty> Wizzards are cool
20100924 02:21:12< PeterPorty> Awesome, Gambit 
20100924 02:21:58< Gambit> My first project was a copypasta of ANL
20100924 02:22:03< Gambit> Ah fond memories.
20100924 02:22:03< PeterPorty> Also, Gambit, I'm mad at you for leavng Minecraft SpA server.
20100924 02:22:14< Mica> You guys play Minecraft?
20100924 02:22:20< PeterPorty> Of course.
20100924 02:22:24< Gambit> Yeah I played it before it was cool :)
20100924 02:22:29< Gambit> Oh no
20100924 02:22:39< Gambit> I just became one of those guys.
20100924 02:22:45< PeterPorty> >.<
20100924 02:23:00< Gambit> $faith_in_self--
20100924 02:23:01< PeterPorty> I'm an op now... and I enjoy banning trolls.
20100924 02:23:17< PeterPorty> It's... realxing.
20100924 02:23:19< Gambit> Not to mention giving yourself all the diamond pickaxes you can eat
20100924 02:23:29< PeterPorty> Gambit, everyone can do that
20100924 02:23:37< Gambit> ?
20100924 02:23:37< PeterPorty> also, I mean creative.
20100924 02:23:54< Gambit> Meh
20100924 02:23:57< PeterPorty> you just type /kit tools and you get diamond tools
20100924 02:24:15< Gambit> OH
20100924 02:24:15< Gambit> OH
20100924 02:24:17< Gambit> "You've been hand selected for the Multiplayer Closed Beta: PLAY NOW"
20100924 02:24:18< Gambit> HAHA
20100924 02:24:20< Gambit> I love it.
20100924 02:24:29< Mica> Congrats
20100924 02:24:30< PeterPorty> for what game?
20100924 02:24:34< Mica> Wesnoth is all I need now though
20100924 02:24:34< PeterPorty> FF again?
20100924 02:24:35< PeterPorty> :p
20100924 02:24:47< Gambit> "Game with the DS2 dev team on PSN 9/26/10"
20100924 02:25:04 * Gambit lols
20100924 02:25:04< PeterPorty> DS2=?
20100924 02:25:06< Gambit> "Dear Dead Space 2 Fan,"
20100924 02:25:13< Gambit> I have *no* interest in DS2
20100924 02:25:16< PeterPorty> awesome
20100924 02:25:37< Gambit> Game developers just love me.
20100924 02:25:38< PeterPorty> why did you apply for the beta testing then?
20100924 02:25:42< Gambit> I didn't
20100924 02:25:42< PeterPorty> lol
20100924 02:25:45< Gambit> I was HAND SELECTED
20100924 02:25:50< PeterPorty> lol
20100924 02:26:02< Gambit> It's like the more betas get into and participate in, the more you get into and participate in
20100924 02:26:13< PeterPorty> yeah
20100924 02:26:15< Gambit> It's to the point where if EA has a game
20100924 02:26:20< Gambit> I am guarunteed to get int othe beta
20100924 02:26:31< Mica> I hate EA
20100924 02:26:33< PeterPorty> anyways, bye now, I'll go eat dinner and then ban some random people.. just for the lulz
20100924 02:26:34< Gambit> Me too.
20100924 02:26:36< Mica> they're greedy sons of a bitches 
20100924 02:26:37< Gambit> But they love me.
20100924 02:26:40 * Gambit chuckles.
20100924 02:26:42< Mica> They don't make quality games
20100924 02:26:46< Gambit> Well now...
20100924 02:26:51< Mica> And if they do, you need like 50 billion expansions
20100924 02:26:52< Gambit> They've had some good'n's.
20100924 02:26:57< PeterPorty> c ya guys
20100924 02:26:58< Mica> Which costs you tons of money
20100924 02:27:13< Gambit> I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of BC2 and burnout paradise this generation.
20100924 02:27:15< PeterPorty> also, before I leave / get kicked, piiracy is the answer
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20100924 02:28:47< Gambit> and I think this is why:
20100924 02:28:48< Gambit> "With gamers like you - who have a deep experience with multiplayer gameplay - we're hoping to gather feedback and ensure that we're giving the Dead Space Community a phenomenal multiplayer "
20100924 02:29:03< Gambit> When I say EA game, that is actually much more restricted.
20100924 02:29:05< Gambit> EA shooter
20100924 02:29:09< Gambit> or racer
20100924 02:29:30< Gambit> If it's violent, and multiple players, I test, and I always do their silly surveys.
20100924 02:29:40< Gambit> Though I ussually tell them how s*** the game was.
20100924 02:30:13< Mica> lol
20100924 02:30:28< Mica> Damn it
20100924 02:30:33< Mica> Espreon isn't on
20100924 02:30:39< Mica> I remembered WHY I wanted him earlier justn ow
20100924 02:30:42< Mica> now*
20100924 02:31:06< Mica> Gambit: I remember most WML, but I forgot how macros work. How do you use a set macro?
20100924 02:31:52< Gambit> #define MACRO_NAME ARG1 ARG2 ARG3
20100924 02:31:55< Gambit> code goes here
20100924 02:31:57< Gambit> #enddef
20100924 02:32:02< Mica> yes yes I know that
20100924 02:32:03< Gambit> And to use the arguments you use {ARG1}
20100924 02:32:16< Gambit> oh "use a set macro"
20100924 02:32:16< Gambit> oop
20100924 02:32:24< Gambit> {MACRO_NAME ARG1 ARG2 ARG3}
20100924 02:32:35< Mica> right
20100924 02:32:36< Mica> thanks
20100924 02:32:42< Mica> WTF
20100924 02:32:45< Mica> My wesnoth is messing up now
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20100924 03:03:37< Mica> Gambit: Is there a way to view the 1.4 terrain codes for WML?
20100924 03:04:04< Gambit> hmmm
20100924 03:04:13< Gambit> maybe if there's still an SVN branch of 1.4
20100924 03:04:16< Gambit> But I doubt it.
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20100924 03:35:14< NotShadowmaster> shikadibot: dir /branches/1.6/Undead_Empire
20100924 03:35:14<+shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /branches/1.6/Undead_Empire: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/branches/1.6/Undead_Empire
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20100924 03:49:06< NotShadowmaster> shikadibot: file /branches/1.6/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.map
20100924 03:49:06<+shikadibot> Web interface URL to file /branches/1.6/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.map: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/branches/1.6/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.map?view=markup
20100924 03:49:09< NotShadowmaster> Mica: ^
20100924 03:49:15< Mica> thanky ou
20100924 03:49:18< Mica> thank you*
20100924 03:49:37< NotShadowmaster> the wml isn't clean according to wmllint, though :(
20100924 03:49:39< NotShadowmaster> only the map
20100924 03:50:08< NotShadowmaster> although I could give you the output to serve as a clue
20100924 03:50:30< Mica> Hm
20100924 03:50:36< Mica> It's clean enough for me
20100924 03:50:46< Mica> and I'm pretty sure the WML still works
20100924 03:50:46< NotShadowmaster> really, it won't work properly
20100924 03:50:51< Mica> o.oo
20100924 03:50:54< Mica> o.o
20100924 03:50:56< NotShadowmaster> user_description is a problem, for starters
20100924 03:51:23< Mica> Oh right
20100924 03:51:24< Mica> Um
20100924 03:51:26< Mica> Shadowmaster
20100924 03:51:35< NotShadowmaster> I'm running wmllint on the whole thing
20100924 03:51:38< Mica> I installed my wesnoth for my user only (dumb dumb me). How can I..
20100924 03:51:40< Mica> Find the addons?
20100924 03:51:45< Mica> I looked under data in the file
20100924 03:51:50< Mica> but there was no add-ons folder
20100924 03:51:54< NotShadowmaster> wiki.wesnoth.org/EditingWesnoth
20100924 03:51:58< Mica> mk
20100924 03:52:16< NotShadowmaster> I'll send you the zip and the wmllint output for stuff that needs to be fixed by hand
20100924 03:52:31< NotShadowmaster> if esr asks, tell him I'm not shadowmaster.
20100924 03:52:33< NotShadowmaster> (duh)
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20100924 03:53:10< Mica> You guys are evil
20100924 03:53:16< Mica> I swear.
20100924 03:53:18< NotShadowmaster> why?
20100924 03:53:49< Mica> Changing it on me
20100924 03:53:53< Mica> I'm used to userdata
20100924 03:54:05< NotShadowmaster> I did that.
20100924 03:54:09< NotShadowmaster> well, I had the initiative.
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20100924 03:54:22< Mica> EVILLL
20100924 03:54:26-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
20100924 03:54:34< NotShadowmaster> and that's supposed to be a good thing, mind you. It's better for Vista and 7 users, and is analogous to Linux and Mac OS X behavior
20100924 03:54:47-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
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20100924 03:55:14< Espreon> Hello, children.
20100924 03:55:27< Mythological> hello mom
20100924 03:55:28<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7567 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/: Undead Empire: branch 1.6 to 1.8
20100924 03:55:48< Mythological> that was a hit below the belt but I could not resist 
20100924 03:56:01< Mica> lol
20100924 03:56:12 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20100924 03:56:32< Mythological> mica: do you still want help you run wmllint?
20100924 03:56:39< Mythological> +me to
20100924 03:57:00< Mica> Mythological: NotShadowmaster was running it for me, then going to mark what needed to be changed manually
20100924 03:57:06< NotShadowmaster> I'm ready
20100924 03:57:14< NotShadowmaster> I'm committing right now
20100924 03:57:51< Gambit> Yeah
20100924 03:57:55< Gambit> Mica: Get with the times
20100924 03:58:02< Gambit> :P
20100924 03:58:14< Gambit> userdata is *SO* 2008
20100924 03:58:15< Mica> Gambit: It's not even my project. Blame Mythological and jb
20100924 03:58:20< Mica> oh
20100924 03:58:21< Mica> lol
20100924 03:58:29< Mica> Hey hey now, I haven't been here since 1.4.x
20100924 03:58:32< Mica> WAY to welcome me back
20100924 03:59:01< Gambit> [21:58:04] <Gambit> :P
20100924 04:00:02<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7568 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/ (TODO Undead_Empire.cfg Undead_Empire_macros.cfg _main.cfg): 
20100924 04:00:02<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: Undead Empire: ran 1.8 wmllint on 1.8 branch
20100924 04:00:02<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: There is still a lot of things that wmllint can't automatically fix.
20100924 04:00:02<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: The complete wmllint output is given in the new TODO file for reference.
20100924 04:00:02< NotShadowmaster> Mica: have you got tortoisesvn already?
20100924 04:00:12< NotShadowmaster> s/got/installed and configured/
20100924 04:00:36< Mica> NotShadowmaster: Espreon can't run me through tortoise so he was taking me the cygwin path
20100924 04:00:46< Mica> If you want to get me the tortoise route, then I'm open!
20100924 04:00:47< NotShadowmaster> Espreon: you bad person.
20100924 04:00:57< NotShadowmaster> you should feel ashamed. This is why Mica thinks we are evil.
20100924 04:01:22< NotShadowmaster> Mica: just get tortoisesvn and install it, first.
20100924 04:01:33-!- NotShadowmaster is now known as shadowm_laptop
20100924 04:01:34< Espreon> But, why can't he just run my svn co command?
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20100924 04:01:56< Espreon> Noöne cares anymore...
20100924 04:02:03< Mythological> Mica: I'll teach you how to set tortoisesvn up
20100924 04:02:04< Espreon> <insert BAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWing here>
20100924 04:02:05< Mica> Downloading now
20100924 04:02:12< Mythological> and wmllint too
20100924 04:02:29< Mythological> but another day
20100924 04:02:31 * esr is not fooled by the Not
20100924 04:02:34< Mythological> it is 4 AM for me
20100924 04:02:48< Mica> Mythological: Oddly enough, shadowmaster ran me through running wmllint forever ago, but it still didn't work
20100924 04:02:53< shadowmaster> Mica, Mythological : I can help with Tortoise right now.
20100924 04:03:03< shadowmaster> if only because I can learn on the fly and teach other people... uh.
20100924 04:03:09< shadowmaster> I have it installed on a XP VM anyway.
20100924 04:03:32< Mica> It's installed, let me tell some people on wesnoth I have to restart my comp then I'll be back
20100924 04:03:49< shadowmaster> okay
20100924 04:04:52< shadowmaster> Mica: still here?
20100924 04:04:56< Mica> Yes
20100924 04:05:03< shadowmaster> do you remember your SF.net account name and password?
20100924 04:05:12< shadowmaster> (not mandatory for this, but anyway)
20100924 04:06:14< Mica> uh
20100924 04:06:23< Mica> manic_mica and I probably used one of my ghost passwords
20100924 04:06:51< shadowmaster> we can try with that later so you can restore your commit access.
20100924 04:07:08< shadowmaster> you could try by logging into sf.net in your web browser with your account info
20100924 04:07:49< Mica> Logged in
20100924 04:07:53< Mica> restarting comp
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20100924 04:08:05< Espreon> Screw it, I'm changing my song essay's topic to the 4Kids One Piece intro... for I can say a million things about that piece of crap.
20100924 04:08:28< shadowmaster> Espreon: LOL.
20100924 04:08:44< shadowmaster> I watched a video about 4kids' practices  yesterday
20100924 04:08:53< Espreon> Oh? What do you think?
20100924 04:08:59< shadowmaster> and I got the full 4Kidsified One Piece intro in it.
20100924 04:09:06 * Espreon chuckles
20100924 04:09:07< shadowmaster> I think 4Kids should be nuked.
20100924 04:09:14< Espreon> Good.
20100924 04:09:17< shadowmaster> seriously.
20100924 04:09:24< Espreon> Well, duh...
20100924 04:09:51< shadowmaster> and what the hell with removing guns and blood? o_O
20100924 04:10:00< Espreon> Good, I got the lyrics... now I just need to dl a vid from YouTube and I'll be set.
20100924 04:10:43< Espreon> LOL, just watch Yu-Gi-Oh! and LOL at Pegasus's goons' invisible guns.
20100924 04:10:47< shadowmaster> Espreon: weren't you in wesbreak anyway?
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20100924 04:11:03< shadowmaster> oh dear gods.
20100924 04:11:04< shadowmaster> Windows XP crashed.
20100924 04:11:10< shadowmaster> while upgrading tortoise
20100924 04:11:14 * shadowmaster goes to the rescue
20100924 04:11:21< Mica> k
20100924 04:11:22< Mica> o.o
20100924 04:11:23< Espreon> shadowmaster: Well, it's more like, I'm on some sort of break, but I show up whenever the hell I want.
20100924 04:11:48< shadowmaster> k
20100924 04:11:58< shadowmaster> Mica: hang on a sec
20100924 04:11:58< Espreon> shadowmaster: Watch Yu-Gi-Oh! the Abridged Series... it's awesome.
20100924 04:11:59< shadowmaster> a minute
20100924 04:12:09< Mica> shadowmesr scares me sometimes
20100924 04:12:15< Mica> shadowmaster: *
20100924 04:12:17< shadowmaster> why do I scare you?
20100924 04:12:19< Mica> esr*
20100924 04:12:20< Mica> :p
20100924 04:12:32< Mica> I fear he has lack of patience for morons like me D:
20100924 04:13:08< shadowmaster> he just doesn't want to hear anything about Windows.
20100924 04:13:16< shadowmaster> I'd tell you why but he'd not approve.
20100924 04:13:25< shadowmaster> :Awesome:
20100924 04:13:37< esr> Mica: I don't consider you a moron, just sadly ignorant.  
20100924 04:13:38 * Espreon wonders if shadowmaster will watch it...
20100924 04:13:59< shadowmaster> Espreon: eventually.
20100924 04:14:14< Mica> Heh, in computer stuff like this, I'm a moron. Trust me :(
20100924 04:14:27< shadowmaster> esr: accept it, not everyone can be a tech-savvy computer user :(
20100924 04:14:44< shadowmaster> this isn't the 80s when computer users were a quite privileged bunch
20100924 04:15:27< shadowmaster> Mica: do you have 30 minutes?
20100924 04:15:33< Mica> Yes I have all night
20100924 04:16:14< shadowmaster> oh wait, I think it won't be necessary
20100924 04:16:17< shadowmaster> I found my download
20100924 04:16:34< shadowmaster> restarting VM
20100924 04:16:41< shadowmaster> and brb I'm going to fetch tea
20100924 04:24:28< shadowmaster> back
20100924 04:24:53< shadowmaster> er.
20100924 04:25:41< shadowmaster> hold on, reinstalling TortoiseSVN. That system crash didn't do any good.
20100924 04:25:59< shadowmaster> good that rebooting is cheap on virtual machines
20100924 04:31:29< shadowmaster> Mica: pling
20100924 04:31:36< Mica> plong?
20100924 04:32:19< shadowmaster> Mica: so, you are on your add-ons dir already?
20100924 04:32:28< shadowmaster> if not, open it and create a folder named "Undead_Empire" in it
20100924 04:32:40< Mica> k
20100924 04:33:44< Mica> Done
20100924 04:34:11< shadowmaster> Mica: after doing that, right click on the folder's view, and click on SVN Checkout in the contex tmenu
20100924 04:34:23< Mica> k
20100924 04:35:12< shadowmaster> https://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev/branches/1.8/Undead_Empire    is the URL of the repository
20100924 04:35:24< shadowmaster> leave the rest unchanged, and click on OK
20100924 04:35:43< Mica> Weee
20100924 04:35:47< Mica> That's how I set up svn for ANYTHING
20100924 04:35:48< Mica> ?
20100924 04:35:50< Espreon> Well, bye for now.
20100924 04:36:03< shadowmaster> Mica: hm, yes
20100924 04:36:17< shadowmaster> that's why I recommend Tortoise to Windows users.
20100924 04:36:31< shadowmaster> (and kdesvn to Linux/Unix KDE users)
20100924 04:37:21< shadowmaster> Mica: so you should also be able to modify stuff and commit your changes. Check the TortoiseSVN submenu in the context menu for any dir or file
20100924 04:37:28< shadowmaster>  there's even a Help option so you can learn more
20100924 04:37:35< Mica> YAY THEY MAKE IT MORON FRIENDLY!
20100924 04:37:41< Mica> I can learn! I CAN LEARN
20100924 04:39:55< shadowmaster> Mica: so, if you check the TODO file in that dir you'll see what wmllint suggests that needs to be done
20100924 04:40:13< shadowmaster> the .user_description lines are particularly important
20100924 04:40:20< Mica> OK
20100924 04:40:26< shadowmaster> (the replacement should be .description in most cases)
20100924 04:42:35< shadowmaster> anyway, I'm going back to my coding now. If you need me, poke shadowm_laptop
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20100924 04:47:02< Mica> Mythological: What do you want me to do for UE?
20100924 04:48:18< shadowm_laptop> (note: if you commit a change, TortoiseSVN will probably ask you for a username and password if it hasn't already. You are supposed to provide your SF.net credentials there.)
20100924 04:48:38< shadowm_laptop> (that should be a one-time thing)
20100924 04:51:32< Mica> shadowm_laptop: It should be runnable on 1.8.x right? 
20100924 04:51:47< shadowm_laptop> UE? yes, especially after you fix the remaining problems
20100924 04:52:04< Mica> But now is ok?
20100924 04:52:15< shadowm_laptop> you could try.
20100924 04:52:48< shadowm_laptop> (translation: I haven't tried)
20100924 04:53:10 * shadowm_laptop goes afk again
20100924 04:59:16<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: faabumc * r7569 /trunk/Nightmares_of_Meloen/ai/ais/lua_ai_curse.cfg: NoM: add first version of lua AI (not hooked as doesn't work yet)
20100924 05:05:23< Mythological> Mica: I recommend you find the logic behind the macro structure, then start rewriting all the macros in 1.8 WML
20100924 05:06:01< Mythological> about wmllint... do you have python installed?
20100924 05:08:24< Mica> No I don't, but I have all the updates I can get
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20100924 05:08:28< Mica> wmllint won't fix anymore
20100924 05:08:36< Mica> The rest has to be done manually.
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20100924 05:09:01< Mythological> I know, I read the chat
20100924 05:09:10< Mica> mk
20100924 05:09:22< Mica> I'll work on reading the macros and getting used to them
20100924 05:09:26< Mica> Then seeing what ones need fixing
20100924 05:09:35< Mythological> but you will be using wmllint in the future
20100924 05:09:54< Mythological> well, bobs macros are very complex
20100924 05:10:22< Mythological> tedious even
20100924 05:10:29< Mica> Oh I know
20100924 05:10:33< Mica> I worked on ANL for awhile
20100924 05:10:41< Mythological> that is what stopped jb and me from doing the rewrite ourselves
20100924 05:11:46< Mythological> I tried it a couple of times but I kept ending up with the urge to run away from my comp :P
20100924 05:12:05< Mica> xD
20100924 05:12:14< Mica> I'll handle the macros if you can handle updating the rest
20100924 05:12:24< Mythological> deal
20100924 05:17:08< Mica> Mythological's like YESSSS I DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MACROS
20100924 05:26:35 * SpoOkyMagician laughs
20100924 05:28:32< Mica> shadowm_laptop: Hey shadowmaster, it's saying there's translate signs (the _) in front of a non-string. Well, the thing is, it's a macro. So it's not tranlatable YET but it will be. Can I leave it? Or should I remove it and make a different way to mark it as translate?
20100924 05:28:56< shadowm_laptop> you mean like    _{TEXT}  ?
20100924 05:29:04< Mica> _{MSG}
20100924 05:29:14< shadowm_laptop> Mythological, Mica : that won't work.
20100924 05:29:20< Mica> Mk
20100924 05:29:21< SpoOkyMagician> no it wont
20100924 05:29:27< Mica> _  _ {MSG} actually LOL
20100924 05:29:30< Mica> _  _
20100924 05:29:32< Mica> er.
20100924 05:29:34< Mica> there's a space
20100924 05:29:36< Mica> inbetween the 2.
20100924 05:29:36< shadowm_laptop> that's because the tool that generates the translation catalogue will believe "{MSG}" is a translatable string.
20100924 05:29:37< Mica> >_<
20100924 05:29:39< SpoOkyMagician> write it like this -
20100924 05:29:44< Mica> Ok
20100924 05:29:47< Mica> So remove the _
20100924 05:29:50< Mica> and bam.
20100924 05:29:51< SpoOkyMagician> (_ "message") for the argument
20100924 05:29:51< Mica> Thanks
20100924 05:29:57< shadowm_laptop> what SpoOkyMagician says
20100924 05:30:05< Mica> Wait
20100924 05:30:23< Mica> So it should be {_MSG}
20100924 05:30:25< Mica> ?
20100924 05:30:25< Gambit> He is probably the least rusty WML user in the room.
20100924 05:30:28< shadowm_laptop> Mica: no
20100924 05:30:34< shadowm_laptop> Mica: give me a line exampe
20100924 05:30:42< Mica>                 message= {MSG}
20100924 05:30:44< Mica> It's a macro
20100924 05:30:55< Gambit> message={MSG}
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20100924 05:31:02< shadowm_laptop> #define BEGIN_MSG_OPTION MSG
20100924 05:31:03< shadowm_laptop>     [option]
20100924 05:31:03< shadowm_laptop>         message=_  _ {MSG}
20100924 05:31:03< shadowm_laptop> #enddef
20100924 05:31:07< shadowm_laptop> Mica: that?
20100924 05:31:08< Gambit> and for the parameter use (_ "blah")
20100924 05:31:17< Mica> Yes
20100924 05:31:25< shadowm_laptop> Mica: remove the underscores and useless whitespace
20100924 05:31:29< Mica> Alright
20100924 05:31:32< Mica> that's what I planned on doing
20100924 05:31:37< Mica> I just.. was unsure of myself
20100924 05:31:42< shadowm_laptop> and make the lines that include {BEGIN_MSG_OPTION} pass translatable strings instead of plain strings
20100924 05:31:50< shadowm_laptop> i.e. {BEGIN_MSG_OPTION ( _ "Translatable text")}
20100924 05:32:15< Mica> uhm, what.
20100924 05:32:17< Mica> o.o
20100924 05:32:22< shadowm_laptop> what?
20100924 05:32:33< Mica> Oh
20100924 05:32:43< Mica> So # define BEGIN_MSG_OPTION _MSG
20100924 05:32:44< Mica> ?
20100924 05:32:47< shadowm_laptop> NO
20100924 05:32:53< Mica> D: sorry
20100924 05:32:55< shadowm_laptop> 23:31:41 <shadowm_laptop> and make the lines that include {BEGIN_MSG_OPTION} pass translatable strings instead of plain strings
20100924 05:32:55< Gambit> shikadibot: paste
20100924 05:32:56<+shikadibot> Gambit: Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com
20100924 05:32:58< shadowm_laptop> 23:31:49 <shadowm_laptop> i.e. {BEGIN_MSG_OPTION ( _ "Translatable text")}
20100924 05:33:09< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: screw the rules, I have plot.
20100924 05:33:32< Gambit> I think it'd be more helpful than IRC.
20100924 05:33:38< Mica> Mmm
20100924 05:33:43< shadowm_laptop> for the aforementioned case it doesn't matter, Gambit 
20100924 05:33:43< Gambit> This protip was brought to you buy Mung Dahl's Catering
20100924 05:33:45< Mica> just use that?
20100924 05:34:00< shadowm_laptop> Mica: what is "that"?
20100924 05:34:10< Mica> {BEGIN_MSG_OPTION ( _ "Translatable text")}
20100924 05:34:14< shadowm_laptop> yes
20100924 05:34:19< Mica> Exactly.. like that?
20100924 05:34:23< shadowm_laptop> yes
20100924 05:34:38< shadowm_laptop> and avoid macroifying translatable text like   foo= _ {MACROARGUMENT}   or  bar= _ {MACRO}
20100924 05:34:44< Mica> So that's the define?
20100924 05:34:57< Gambit> You're technically not supposed to dig directly above your head, but just put it on peaceful or, have a bucket of water handy.
20100924 05:35:01< Gambit> errr
20100924 05:35:04< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: please help him for me
20100924 05:35:06 * Gambit whistles
20100924 05:35:07< Mica> I'm sorry, I'm just..
20100924 05:35:12< Mica> trying to understand the why and such.
20100924 05:35:14< Mica> >_<
20100924 05:35:16< shadowm_laptop> I can't help someone who doesn't have a basic grasp of the WML preprocessor :(
20100924 05:35:17< SpoOkyMagician> want me to write an example?
20100924 05:35:27< SpoOkyMagician> (just when i started playing sxc...)
20100924 05:35:42< SpoOkyMagician> or you gonna do it Gambit?
20100924 05:35:50< Mica> I used to know a lot
20100924 05:35:53< shadowm_laptop> SpoOkyMagician: you have more time in your hands
20100924 05:35:57< Mica> Now I'm a nub again
20100924 05:35:58< shadowm_laptop> SpoOkyMagician: so it'd be great if you could help Mica 
20100924 05:35:58< Mica> xD
20100924 05:36:09< SpoOkyMagician> sure... one moment...
20100924 05:36:15< Gambit> [23:35:59] <Gambit> And now I'm off to play the dead space 2 multiplayer beta that I was supposedly "hand selected" for
20100924 05:36:27< shadowm_laptop> I learned the basics of WML in 2005. two years later, I still remembered them.
20100924 05:36:59< Mica> I know the basics
20100924 05:37:07< shadowm_laptop> these are the basics :(
20100924 05:37:09< Gambit> OH NO
20100924 05:37:11< Gambit> WTF
20100924 05:37:12< Gambit> WTF
20100924 05:37:12< Mica> THEY CHANGED
20100924 05:37:15< Gambit> The agreement says
20100924 05:37:16< Gambit> ...
20100924 05:37:17< shadowm_laptop> Mica: no
20100924 05:37:20< Mica> D:
20100924 05:37:21< Gambit> I can't be a develop of any other video games
20100924 05:37:23< Gambit> NOOOOO
20100924 05:37:24< Gambit> DAMNIT WESOTH
20100924 05:37:27< shadowm_laptop> Mica: the stuff we are talking about has been like this since 0.7 or 0.8
20100924 05:37:32< Gambit> YOU HAVE MADE ME INELIGABLE FOR BETAS
20100924 05:37:45< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: you don't need to tell them you are.
20100924 05:37:46< Gambit> Meh I'll agree anyways.
20100924 05:37:51< shadowm_laptop> ;)
20100924 05:37:53< Gambit> shadowm_laptop: Yeah...
20100924 05:37:54< Mica> Why has it?
20100924 05:37:58< Gambit> [/overlydramatic]
20100924 05:38:24< Gambit> What a retarded agreement
20100924 05:38:26< Gambit> And then it says
20100924 05:38:31< Mica> Actually shadowm_laptop, I haven't worked with this before
20100924 05:38:32< Gambit> "Oh but it's okay if you're EA employee"
20100924 05:38:34< Gambit> xD
20100924 05:38:35< Mica> That's why I don't know
20100924 05:38:41< shadowm_laptop> Mica: then don't say they changed.
20100924 05:38:43< shadowm_laptop> ;)
20100924 05:38:45< Mica> D:
20100924 05:38:47< Mica> Sorry
20100924 05:38:55< Mica> These are
20100924 05:39:02< Mica> Either Myth's macros or Bob's
20100924 05:39:04< Mica> I dunno which
20100924 05:39:05< SpoOkyMagician> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/1rG6NYsA
20100924 05:39:07< shadowm_laptop> btw, try to write stuff in 1 line every time
20100924 05:39:07< Mica> Probably Bob's
20100924 05:39:11< SpoOkyMagician> there... god...
20100924 05:39:12< shadowm_laptop> I mean on IRC
20100924 05:39:22< SpoOkyMagician> thats an example
20100924 05:39:35< SpoOkyMagician> sorry i didnt post much but im playing sxc
20100924 05:39:36< shadowm_laptop> i.e. don't be trigger-happy with the Enter key. I'm the only one allowed to do that whenever the plot requires it.
20100924 05:39:42< Mica> You guys were showing me.. how I'd use it in the actual code?
20100924 05:39:44< Mica> Not in the macro?
20100924 05:39:44< shadowm_laptop> Mica: 
20100924 05:39:56< shadowm_laptop> in the macro you do nothing
20100924 05:40:01< Mica> So.. it was..
20100924 05:40:04< Mica> Fine... as it was..
20100924 05:40:06< shadowm_laptop> you don't mark macro arguments as translatable in the macro
20100924 05:40:08< Mica> Just minus the _
20100924 05:40:11< shadowm_laptop> no
20100924 05:40:12< shadowm_laptop> message=_  _ {MSG}
20100924 05:40:13< shadowm_laptop> should be
20100924 05:40:16< shadowm_laptop> message={MSG}
20100924 05:40:18< Mica> Yeah
20100924 05:40:31< shadowm_laptop> and whenever you include the macro you pass the relevant argument as translatable
20100924 05:40:33< Mica> Just set it to that, and make sure when I USE the macro, to put the _ infront of what's replacing {MSG}
20100924 05:40:42< shadowm_laptop> {FOO_MACRO ( _ "Translatable argument contents")}
20100924 05:40:43< Gambit> Hmmm there is an NDA
20100924 05:40:45< Gambit> Well too late
20100924 05:40:48< Mythological> Mica: yes
20100924 05:40:49< Gambit> They should have put that in the email
20100924 05:40:52< Mica> Yeah.. I'm just changing the macros
20100924 05:40:57< Mica> xD
20100924 05:40:59< Mica> Wow..
20100924 05:41:01< Mica> Lol
20100924 05:41:05< Mythological> btw, all the macros are bob's
20100924 05:41:06< Mica> THAT'S why I got so confused
20100924 05:41:09< shadowm_laptop> Mica: 23:39:35 <shadowm_laptop> i.e. don't be trigger-happy with the Enter key. I'm the only one allowed to do that whenever the plot requires it.
20100924 05:41:22< Mica> shadowm_laptop: this isn't my code
20100924 05:41:24< shadowm_laptop> Mythological: eh, I personally dislike Bob's overuse of macros
20100924 05:41:28< Mythological> but have in mind that the results of wmllint are not completely predictable
20100924 05:41:28< shadowm_laptop> Mica: I was talking about IRC
20100924 05:41:28< Mica> I plan to clean it up after I fix it 
20100924 05:41:32< Mica> Oh. >_< Sorry
20100924 05:41:53< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: we have like 9001 tropes at this point.
20100924 05:41:55< Mythological> in rare cases wmllint can actually produce bugs
20100924 05:42:18< Gambit> shadowm_laptop: And at least one 4chan reference :)
20100924 05:42:26< Gambit> OMG CALL THE COPS
20100924 05:42:28< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: sssssh, don't mention that.
20100924 05:42:32 * shadowm_laptop hides
20100924 05:43:20< Mythological> shadowm_laptop: why are you telling me that when I already wrote the same thing before
20100924 05:43:33< shadowm_laptop> Mythological: uh, where?
20100924 05:44:50< Mica> What does @ in front of a menu entry do again?
20100924 05:45:08< Gambit> nothing as of 1.8
20100924 05:45:17< Mythological> shadowm_laptop: here:
20100924 05:45:20< Mythological> [05:09] <Mythological> well, bobs macros are very complex
20100924 05:45:21< Mythological> [05:10] <Mythological> tedious even
20100924 05:45:31< Mica> Oh, so I should remove it
20100924 05:45:32< shadowm_laptop> that must've been long ago, I didn't notice
20100924 05:45:34< Mythological> [05:10] <Mythological> that is what stopped jb and me from doing the rewrite ourselves
20100924 05:45:34< Mythological> [05:11] <Mythological> I tried it a couple of times but I kept ending up with the urge to run away from my comp :P
20100924 05:46:04< shadowm_laptop> ah, 35 minutes ago
20100924 05:46:12< SpoOkyMagician> meh im curious... you dont want complex macro but yet, my "tags only" version was turned down too... so... what do you want?
20100924 05:46:19< shadowm_laptop> about 10 scrollback pages ago
20100924 05:46:28< Mica> What?
20100924 05:46:37< SpoOkyMagician> (when i made my patch)
20100924 05:46:47< shadowm_laptop> SpoOkyMagician is talking about his ANL patch for mainline
20100924 05:46:50< Mythological> SpoOkyMagician: your tags only version was good for me
20100924 05:47:03< Mica> Oh.
20100924 05:47:05< Mythological> but apparently it was not good enough for zookeeper
20100924 05:47:06< SpoOkyMagician> but zookeeper hated it
20100924 05:47:14< Mythological> and it was his call
20100924 05:47:16< SpoOkyMagician> even the one with macros
20100924 05:47:34< SpoOkyMagician> (oh this isnt the mainline one? sorry.)
20100924 05:47:51< SpoOkyMagician> but true. it was his call.
20100924 05:48:18< Mica> We're doing Undead Empires
20100924 05:48:22< Mica> an ANL clone type thing
20100924 05:48:26< Mica> made by jb and Mythological 
20100924 05:48:39< Mica> And, I'm now aiding them with it
20100924 05:48:49< SpoOkyMagician> ah i see. (ignore my other posts then. although im curious about this)
20100924 05:48:53< shadowm_laptop> I'd volunteer for the macro removal thing, but I'm not sure if I'd get to it before 2014.
20100924 05:49:02 * shadowm_laptop being busy with his own non-Wesnoth stuff
20100924 05:49:29< shadowm_laptop> wait
20100924 05:49:33< shadowm_laptop> 1754 lines of code.
20100924 05:49:36< shadowm_laptop> er, maybe not.
20100924 05:49:37 * shadowm_laptop runs
20100924 05:50:00< Mica> What does @ do in front of $player
20100924 05:50:02< Mica> ?
20100924 05:50:04< SpoOkyMagician> your scared of 1800 lines? i took 10000+ lines and turned it to 6000...
20100924 05:50:08< SpoOkyMagician> :P
20100924 05:50:21< shadowm_laptop> Mica: it used to stand for green AFAIK.   now you want <span color="green">
20100924 05:50:24< SpoOkyMagician> (different addon though)
20100924 05:50:33< shadowm_laptop> and end the green text with </span>
20100924 05:50:44< Mica> OK
20100924 05:50:46< Mica> Thank you
20100924 05:50:52< shadowm_laptop> I mean <span color='green'>
20100924 05:51:00< shadowm_laptop> I forgot that WML doesn't like double quotes.
20100924 05:51:18< Mica> message= _ "@$player[{TARGET_SIDE}].name" It colors the text, right?
20100924 05:51:29< shadowm_laptop> right
20100924 05:51:31< Mica> k
20100924 05:51:57< shadowm_laptop> so message="<span color='green'>$player[{TARGET_SIDE}].name"
20100924 05:51:59< Mica> I just like to be 100% positive.
20100924 05:52:05< shadowm_laptop> er, forgot the </span> at the end
20100924 05:52:09< shadowm_laptop> also, remove the translatable mark from that
20100924 05:52:38< shadowm_laptop> and add a comment in the same line like   # wmllint: ignore     so wmllint doesn't complain later
20100924 05:52:46< SpoOkyMagician> technically it could be translated but. not recommended. (using string concatenation)
20100924 05:53:01< shadowm_laptop> SpoOkyMagician: it MUST NOT be translated
20100924 05:53:08< shadowm_laptop> the player name is given by the MP server
20100924 05:53:22< shadowm_laptop> or by the game engine when it's about autogenerated units
20100924 05:53:26< SpoOkyMagician> hm well if thats the only text then true.
20100924 05:53:47 * shadowm_laptop disappears before he ends up rewriting the code for everyone
20100924 05:53:53< Mica> What is this madness?
20100924 05:54:01< Mica> Bob had text like this
20100924 05:54:12< Mica> message= _ "What shall I do my liege?   (Two empty lines) "
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20100924 05:54:21< Mica> Like wow really Bob..?
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20100924 05:58:09< SpoOkyMagician> Mica: just let me know if you need any help but PM me. I am playing sxc right now.
20100924 05:58:28< Mica> I shouldn't need any help, that was really just a mix up between shadowmaster and I
20100924 05:58:47< Mica> He was telling me how to write it in the actual file while I didn't want to know that, and already knew it
20100924 06:02:15< SpoOkyMagician> very well. gl
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20100924 06:49:47<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7570 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/ (TODO Undead_Empire_macros.cfg): Fixed macros, they should work fine now. Tried to get rid of some unnecessary spaces. Cleaned up the WML a bit. Deleted what I did from the TODO list.
20100924 06:52:17<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7571 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/ (TODO Undead_Empire_macros.cfg): Changed spellings I forgot to do.
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20100924 07:18:57<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7572 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/ (TODO Undead_Empire.cfg): Fixed what wmllint told me to fix. Fixed some misspellings (unsure what Myth wants for implacible). Added mixed fighter to side 7's ai. Removed what I did from the to do list.
20100924 07:30:34<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7573 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/ (TODO Undead_Empire.cfg): Changed 99 to {UNREACHABLE}. Removed some stuff from the TODO list.
20100924 07:36:50< SpoOkyMagician> hey "In SpoOkyMagician We Trust" lol
20100924 07:37:10< Mica> ?
20100924 07:37:32< SpoOkyMagician> check topic :P
20100924 07:38:03< SpoOkyMagician> im honored. :)
20100924 07:54:28<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7574 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/TODO: Updated TODO list.
20100924 07:54:52<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7575 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.cfg: 
20100924 07:54:53<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: Undead Empire: change a path to a non-existent (?) image to a more appropriate image
20100924 07:54:53<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: that wasn't originally available when this add-on was written.
20100924 07:59:12<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7576 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.cfg: 
20100924 07:59:12<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: Undead Empire: Quoted a few translatable strings to make my syntax hilighter happier
20100924 07:59:12<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: (Might also help with wmlxgettext?)
20100924 08:01:40<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7577 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.cfg: Undead Empire: remove leading whitespace on a exclamation mark
20100924 08:04:19<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7578 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/ (Undead_Empire.cfg _main.cfg): 
20100924 08:04:19<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: Undead Empire: reindent the scenario and stub file
20100924 08:04:19<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: Not reindenting the macros file because wmlindent gets confused with it.
20100924 08:07:16<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7579 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/_main.cfg: Undead Empire: remove useless commented-out line from stub, move binary_path decl. under the MULTIPLAYER #ifdef
20100924 08:07:54<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7580 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.cfg: Combined a whole bunch of starting events into one big event. Should be better now.
20100924 08:10:38<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7581 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Undead Empire: add textdomain definition and specifications
20100924 08:16:46<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7582 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.cfg: Undead Empire: simply initial player objectives setup code
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20100924 08:18:36< Espreon> Awwwww...
20100924 08:19:07< Espreon> Doing all of that myself would have been fun...
20100924 08:19:45 * Espreon wonders why the hell he finds cleaning up addons amusing...
20100924 08:20:19<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7583 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/TODO: Undead Empire: add a to-do item for code that needs to be checked
20100924 08:23:34<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7584 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.cfg: Undead Empire: text markup changes
20100924 08:25:21<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7585 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/_main.cfg: Undead Empire: comment-out UtBS-related code from the stub (it's also bogus anyway)
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20100924 11:01:07 * SpoOkyMagician meh, later all
20100924 11:01:09< SpoOkyMagician> oops
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20100924 11:13:59< zookeeper> Espreon, should we italicize all quoted passages? like these: "Drogan, the captain of the guard, replied, “Surely you know that the penalty for necromancy ...blabla”"
20100924 11:14:08< zookeeper> esr too ^
20100924 11:15:04< zookeeper> i think it always looks nicer when quoted stuff distinquishes itself a bit somehow
20100924 12:00:33< fabi> Espreon: If you take your wesbreak like discussed here some days ago, please find a substitute for maintaining utbs before you leave.
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20100924 12:49:44< esr> zookeeper: I'd be OK with italizicing reported quotes.
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20100924 13:00:14< esr> fendrin: Thanks for fixing the MULTIPLAYER_GOLD thing.
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20100924 15:58:07< FAAB1> hi mysticX
20100924 15:58:17< mysticX> hey
20100924 16:14:15< FAAB1> Espreon ! Already back :S
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20100924 19:11:54<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7586 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/ (TODO Undead_Empire_macros.cfg): Changed $side_number to $side like the rest of the macros. No idea why it was different there.
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20100924 19:24:09< Mica> Oh my god I think I just fell in love with everyone who contributed terrain art for 1.9.x
20100924 19:27:50< Mica> Gambit: Can you do me a favor?
20100924 19:57:57< Gambit> Ummm
20100924 19:57:58< Gambit> Maybe
20100924 19:58:05< Mica> Can you run wmllint ?
20100924 19:58:26< Mica> I want Undead Empire run through wmllint (updated to 1.9.1)
20100924 19:59:32< Gambit> I can't run that thing any better than you.
20100924 20:00:21< Mica> Lol 
20100924 20:00:24< Mica> Thanks anyways, then
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20100924 21:38:31< Mica> wesbot: seen Mythological?
20100924 21:38:32<+wesbot> Mica: The person with the nick Mythological last spoke 15h 51m ago.  15h 8m ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-dev with the message: Quit: "goodbye"
20100924 21:38:32<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7587 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.map: Made minor changes to the map, such as adding coastal reef to make it look better, and summer deciduous forest. Also changed dirt in the cave areas to cave path.
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20100924 22:07:15<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7588 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_macros.cfg: Added in a macro that no longer existed. Testing will commence soon.
20100924 22:29:54<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7589 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.cfg: Changed the map path.
20100924 22:30:47<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7590 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/:
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