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20100927 02:53:38< Mica> shadowmaster: If I replace a map with the exact same size as one map, the units will stay where they are, right?
20100927 02:54:16< shadowmaster> yes
20100927 02:54:26< shadowmaster> you mean at runtime, right?
20100927 02:54:47< Mica> uh, maybe?
20100927 02:54:56< shadowmaster> are you talking about [replace_map] or not?
20100927 02:55:06< Mica> yes I am
20100927 02:55:22< Mica> Wait, isn't there an easier way to change just some terrain?
20100927 02:55:35< shadowmaster> [terrain]
20100927 02:55:38< shadowmaster> and [terrain_mask]
20100927 02:55:43< Mica> Thanks!
20100927 02:57:54< Mica> shadowmaster: What's the difference between terrain_mask and terrain?
20100927 02:58:04< shadowmaster> lots
20100927 02:58:33< shadowmaster> terrain_mask uses  a terrain mask, whereas terrain uses a standard location filter and a replacement tile type
20100927 02:59:15< shadowmaster> ... http://wiki.wesnoth.org/TerrainMaskWML
20100927 02:59:20< Mica> Mkay thanks
20100927 02:59:22< Mica> I was already looking
20100927 02:59:27< Mica> that's why I had to ask, it looks pretty..
20100927 02:59:28< Mica> uh
20100927 02:59:30< Mica> Similar to me
20100927 02:59:39< shadowmaster> it isn't.
20100927 02:59:41< Mica> and [then] goes insdie the [if] right?
20100927 02:59:45< Mica> inside*
20100927 03:00:03< shadowmaster> yes.
20100927 03:00:12< shadowmaster> I'm busy btw
20100927 03:00:23< Mica> sorry:x
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20100927 03:49:19< shadowmaster> shikadibot: dir /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire
20100927 03:49:19<+shikadibot> Web interface URL to directory /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/branches/1.8/Undead_Empire
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20100927 04:01:13<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7619 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/ (Undead_Empire.cfg Undead_Empire.map): 
20100927 04:01:13<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: Made minor changes to the map.
20100927 04:01:13<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: Removed all teleport events and anything relating to the now-gone Dwarves in the
20100927 04:01:13<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: very top left. Added a terrain change event that changes the terrain of the
20100927 04:01:13<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: impassable mountains to something the player can cross if orange/brown are
20100927 04:01:14<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: missing their leaders.
20100927 04:01:17< Mica> shadowmaster: Is THAT a better commit message?
20100927 04:02:35< shadowmaster> If you think it suits your changes, yes.
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20100927 04:17:30<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7620 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire.cfg: Removed a lot of Berserker spawns, changed some to Ulfserkers. Lowered orange and browns income, increased brown's gold to 15.
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20100927 05:44:25<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7621 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_macros.cfg: Fixed a bug that allowed leaders to do diplomacy an unlimited number of times.
20100927 05:51:57<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7622 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/TODO: New bug added to 'TODO'
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20100927 06:53:50< manic_mica> AI0867: Does thou remember me?
20100927 06:54:06< manic_mica> AI0867: my old one was Mica, but it was registered so I changed to this :p
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20100927 07:46:05< shadowmaster> manic_mica: actually, you can get Mica back
20100927 07:46:14< shadowmaster> if you are willing to follow every single instruction from me though.
20100927 07:46:19< manic_mica> Uh, ok
20100927 07:46:24< manic_mica> It was never mine though
20100927 07:46:35< shadowmaster> it's expired AFAIK
20100927 07:46:40< manic_mica> It said it was registered when I first logged in on irc all them years ago
20100927 07:47:00< manic_mica> besides, this is fine
20100927 07:47:05< manic_mica> It's my SF name
20100927 07:47:07< shadowmaster> join #freenode and ask whether Mica can be dropped for you.
20100927 07:47:10< shadowmaster> but first change to Mica.
20100927 07:48:19< manic_mica> Wut
20100927 07:48:25 * shadowmaster adds  manic_mica to his list of people who will never register their nickname like they should.
20100927 07:48:39< shadowmaster> exactly why did you leave? :\
20100927 07:48:45< manic_mica> Issues
20100927 07:48:53< shadowmaster> issues with what?
20100927 07:49:03< manic_mica> Life
20100927 07:49:21< shadowmaster> and yet you are here.
20100927 07:49:27< shadowmaster> I was asking why you left from #freenode.
20100927 07:50:04< manic_mica> Oh
20100927 07:50:08< shadowmaster> bleh, never mind.
20100927 07:50:08< manic_mica> lOl
20100927 07:50:10< manic_mica> lol
20100927 07:50:11< manic_mica> 'Cause you said first switch to Mica
20100927 07:50:13< manic_mica> :p
20100927 07:50:16< manic_mica> and I didn't
20100927 07:50:25< shadowmaster> you could as well have swtiched to mica there
20100927 07:50:35< shadowmaster> I meant to switch nicknames first, ask later.
20100927 07:50:53< manic_mica> Plus I get nervous when there's so many people there
20100927 07:51:02< shadowmaster> don't be ridiculous
20100927 07:51:16< shadowmaster> more than 97% of them are idlers.
20100927 07:51:28< shadowmaster> and half of the rest is asleep or afk at this time
20100927 07:51:48< manic_mica> Bleh fine, what do I have to do?
20100927 07:52:05< shadowmaster> /nick Mica
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20100927 07:52:15< shadowmaster> then ask whether Mica can be dropped so you can register it
20100927 07:53:14< Mica> Is linkin speaking @ me?
20100927 07:53:17< shadowmaster> now try to be patient since staffers aren't permanently attached to their computers
20100927 07:53:21< shadowmaster> no
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20100927 08:23:58< shadowmaster> Mica: what client do you use?
20100927 08:24:05< Mica> Chatzilla
20100927 08:24:25< shadowmaster> do you have it set to autoidentify you on connect?
20100927 08:25:06< Mica> I don't know, I'm looking into it now
20100927 08:25:15< shadowmaster> 22:58:16 <shadowmaster> yes, that's the correct command, but you want this instead in your auto-perform list:
20100927 08:25:18< shadowmaster> 22:58:24 <SpoOkyMagician> ok
20100927 08:25:21< shadowmaster> 22:58:30 <SpoOkyMagician> (adds)
20100927 08:25:23< shadowmaster> 22:58:39 <shadowmaster> msg nickserv identify SpoOkyMagician PassWordHere
20100927 08:25:31< SpoOkyMagician> wha -
20100927 08:25:40< shadowmaster> look in the chatzilla preferences, under the network (Freenode) config, somewhere in the tabs
20100927 08:25:46< shadowmaster> there's an autoperform list
20100927 08:26:00< shadowmaster> SpoOkyMagician you are still around I didn't notice.
20100927 08:26:02< Mica> It's still registering me as manic_mica even though I did what the guy said
20100927 08:26:03< SpoOkyMagician> so add that comment?
20100927 08:26:04< Mica> =\
20100927 08:26:11< shadowmaster> Mica: that's normal.
20100927 08:26:18< Mica> k
20100927 08:26:19< shadowmaster> Mica: you just grouped the new nick to the manic_mica account
20100927 08:26:23< SpoOkyMagician> ooh talking to mica
20100927 08:26:37< shadowmaster> if you want to change the account's main nickname, do   /msg nickserv set accountname Mica
20100927 08:27:04< Mica> ok
20100927 08:27:06< Mica> thank you
20100927 08:27:36< Mica> Do I have to identify again?
20100927 08:28:01< shadowmaster> for issuing the set -accountname command, yes.
20100927 08:28:27< shadowmaster> and you want to identify at all times to avoid your nickname being expired and beco ming free for another person to take, hence I mentioned chatzilla's autoperform command thingy
20100927 08:28:37< Mica> Ok
20100927 08:29:59< Mica> It says without the leading "/". Does that mean without it? I'm just.. checking
20100927 08:30:13< shadowmaster> yes, it means without it
20100927 08:30:14< shadowmaster> i.e.
20100927 08:30:21< shadowmaster> msg nickserv identify Mica Passwordhere
20100927 08:30:25< Mica> k
20100927 08:30:30< Mica> I'm paranoid, sorry. xD
20100927 08:30:55< Mica> and isn't it just msg nickserv identify passwordhere, no mica?
20100927 08:31:09< shadowmaster> both forms work, but I prefer th eone I specified.
20100927 08:31:28< Mica> mk
20100927 08:31:33< shadowmaster> this is because it'll always work regardless of what nick your client chooses for connecting, in case you are having connection issues and end up with like 100 ghosts
20100927 08:32:26< shadowmaster> which you can then disconnect from th e network using /msg nickserv ghost <DeadSessionNickname>, yet another benefit of nickname registration
20100927 08:35:45< Mica> What if I told you my password was peanut butter? :)
20100927 08:36:06< shadowmaster> then someone else would quickly abuse that feature.
20100927 08:36:10< shadowmaster> I mean information.
20100927 08:36:23< shadowmaster> i.e. /msg nickserv ghost yournickname thepasswordyoujustgaveaway
20100927 08:41:05< shadowmaster> good night everyone
20100927 08:46:17< Mica> night shadowmaster.
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20100927 09:11:57<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r7623 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_Era.cfg: UE: ran umcpropfix.
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20100927 09:12:02< Espreon> Damn, it got away...
20100927 09:12:15< Espreon> I just wanted to feed it to my Venus's Flytrap...
20100927 09:12:47< Espreon> ... and I can't feed it ants... so... IDK what to do..
20100927 09:13:11< Espreon> Oh, SpoOkyMagician, what shall I do?
20100927 09:13:25< SpoOkyMagician> dunno. go find some flies?
20100927 09:13:28< SpoOkyMagician> :P
20100927 09:13:46< Espreon> We don't have any...
20100927 09:13:56< SpoOkyMagician> (i mean elsewhere)
20100927 09:14:05< Espreon> Blargh... IDK...
20100927 09:14:15< Espreon> Maybe some stinkbugs will pop up...
20100927 09:14:23< Espreon> Once they do... heh...
20100927 09:15:39 * SpoOkyMagician thinks of what to do
20100927 09:22:00< Espreon> Ah, it never got away...
20100927 09:22:22< Espreon> ... and now it is trapped in my Venus's Flytrap's domain...
20100927 09:22:32< Espreon> 'Tis only a matter of time......
20100927 09:22:45< Espreon> Yeah, hopefully, it'll walk/fly into one of the live heads.
20100927 09:23:03< Espreon> I killed three of them by feeding them ants... and the other two are still developing.
20100927 09:23:04< SpoOkyMagician> heh
20100927 09:23:21< Espreon> So, I only have one live, fully-developed head.
20100927 09:24:33< Espreon> Hmmmm, let's see if unleashing a deluge upon the bug'll agitate it...
20100927 09:30:42< Espreon> Well, I got it out of its sleep...
20100927 09:30:50< Espreon> But when I lowered it into the head, it escaped...
20100927 09:31:27< Espreon> I'll just wait till the head reopens in... God-knows-how-many hours... and I shall sacrifice X soba noodles to feed the damn thing.
20100927 09:31:52< Espreon> I already sacrificed five soba...
20100927 09:32:21< Espreon> SpoOkyMagician: This sucks, eh?
20100927 09:32:42< SpoOkyMagician> um
20100927 09:32:47 * SpoOkyMagician reads
20100927 09:33:43< SpoOkyMagician> I suppose so.
20100927 09:34:00< SpoOkyMagician> (started playing a survival)
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20100927 23:15:39<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7624 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_macros.cfg: Another attempt at fixing the ability to do diplomacy more than once a turn.
20100927 23:33:46< Mica> SpoOkyMagician: It's not loading, and it said I was missing tags that I'm NOT missing
20100927 23:34:00< Mica> Like missing closing tag for [have_unit
20100927 23:34:08< Mica> but there was [/have_unit]
20100927 23:34:14< SpoOkyMagician> hm
20100927 23:34:26< SpoOkyMagician> sometimes macros can do that with errors
20100927 23:34:42< Mica> How do I fix it?
20100927 23:35:07< SpoOkyMagician> hm... can I get the scenario?
20100927 23:35:20< Mica> it's on svn
20100927 23:35:30< SpoOkyMagician> oh (checks)
20100927 23:36:06< SpoOkyMagician> care to give me a url?
20100927 23:36:41< SpoOkyMagician> (so i can find it)
20100927 23:37:39< Mica> uhm
20100927 23:38:04< Mica> https://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev/branches/1.8/Undead_Empire
20100927 23:38:23< SpoOkyMagician> thanks
20100927 23:39:33< SpoOkyMagician> did it say which specific line of error?
20100927 23:40:09< SpoOkyMagician> (check stderr.txt)
20100927 23:41:02< Mica> 18
20100927 23:41:07< Mica> was ONE of them
20100927 23:41:17< Mica> It's not listed anymore, it just ignores the add-on now
20100927 23:41:57< SpoOkyMagician> in the scenario?
20100927 23:42:28< SpoOkyMagician> er, how about this, post the stderr.txt in a pastebin
20100927 23:42:39< SpoOkyMagician> (this would be easier for me)
20100927 23:44:17< Mica> It's not listed anymore
20100927 23:45:44< SpoOkyMagician> well, that doesnt help very much no does it? (i'll have to read over the code...)
20100927 23:45:56< Mica> I'm trying to get it to list again
20100927 23:46:40< SpoOkyMagician> meh... forget it... ill just download it...
20100927 23:47:31 * zookeeper facepalms
20100927 23:49:21< Mica> paste binning
20100927 23:49:37< SpoOkyMagician> zookeeper: please tell me you didnt find it already... 
20100927 23:49:42< Mica> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/GvPrMs3n
20100927 23:50:03< SpoOkyMagician> oh lord
20100927 23:50:15< zookeeper> no i didn't, and i'm not going to
20100927 23:50:42< Mica> zookeeper is  very lazy :p
20100927 23:52:27< SpoOkyMagician> it doesnt like #define LEADER_OPTIONS
20100927 23:52:33< SpoOkyMagician> (checks)
20100927 23:52:41< zookeeper> i wouldn't be as lazy if the questions ever changed
20100927 23:54:08< SpoOkyMagician> Mica: which line(s) did you change to this anyway?
20100927 23:54:26< Mica> SpoOkyMagician: It has to do with something I changed. All I did change was {VARIABLE worked_this_turn yes} to {COMPLETE_ACTION 0}
20100927 23:54:43< Mica> Which SHOULDN'T cause error
20100927 23:54:46< Mica> errors*
20100927 23:55:00< Mica> I'm going to look it over
20100927 23:56:25< SpoOkyMagician> i see the problem i think...
20100927 23:56:51< Mica> ?
20100927 23:56:55< SpoOkyMagician> #define COMPLETE_ACTION GOLD_NUMBER (and below) #define COMPLETE_ACTION GOLD
20100927 23:57:05< SpoOkyMagician> that has to be it
20100927 23:57:25< Mica> Lmao
20100927 23:57:31< Mica> you're probably right
20100927 23:57:45< Mica> let's see
20100927 23:57:56< SpoOkyMagician> eh, it happens to even the best...
20100927 23:58:06< Mica> The problem is, this isn't MINE
20100927 23:58:07< SpoOkyMagician> we are only human
20100927 23:58:12< Mica> so I don't know WTF is in there really
20100927 23:58:24< SpoOkyMagician> ah well okay
20100927 23:59:05< Mica> SpoOkyMagician: Can I ask you a stupid question?
20100927 23:59:11< SpoOkyMagician> er, okay
20100927 23:59:35< Mica> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=458293#p458293 How do I make a link look like that in the Wesnoth forums?
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