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20100915 06:37:13< SpoOkyMagician> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=21333&start=0 (the first post could be updated saying that for 1.7.*, it is now [terrain_type] instead of [terrain])
20100915 06:39:57< SpoOkyMagician> shadowmaster: can you make a note in the first post? (read above)
20100915 06:40:16< shadowmaster> as soon as I finish fixing some forum code
20100915 06:40:21< SpoOkyMagician> sure
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20100915 07:01:09< shadowmaster> I just replaced instances of [terrain] and [/terrain]
20100915 07:01:27< shadowmaster> better than adding a note which is more likely to pass unnoticed
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20100915 07:02:23< shadowmaster> SpoOkyMagician_: 
20100915 07:02:29< SpoOkyMagician_> yes?
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20100915 07:02:36< shadowmaster> read above
20100915 07:02:53< shadowmaster> and stop asking for topics to be locked whenever they are solved
20100915 07:03:06< SpoOkyMagician> okay. ...and why?
20100915 07:03:20< SpoOkyMagician> isnt that the point of a report button?
20100915 07:03:25< shadowmaster> Just 'Cause™.
20100915 07:03:27< shadowmaster> no
20100915 07:03:36< shadowmaster> the report button is not a simple moderator hotline
20100915 07:03:36< SpoOkyMagician> (of course there are other reasons)
20100915 07:03:40< shadowmaster> it's for reporting violations
20100915 07:03:43< shadowmaster> of the posting guidelines
20100915 07:03:48< shadowmaster> and other common sense violations
20100915 07:03:55< SpoOkyMagician> alright...
20100915 07:04:12< shadowmaster> besides, you are assuming that thepost author wants it to be locked.
20100915 07:04:17< shadowmaster> that's bad.
20100915 07:04:26< shadowmaster> if the author requests it, fine, but you can't decide for them
20100915 07:04:42< SpoOkyMagician> alright.
20100915 07:05:03< shadowmaster> what would happen if he suddenly had problems with a specific part of the issue again, and needed to ask further questions?
20100915 07:05:23< shadowmaster> and found the topic locked? "sorry, the old topic was locked, so I'll ask here instead: why X doesn't work when I set Y to Z?"
20100915 07:05:27< shadowmaster> :P
20100915 07:05:39< SpoOkyMagician> yes, i understand now. no need to continue explaining
20100915 07:05:52< SpoOkyMagician> (but some forums are picky like that)
20100915 07:05:54< shadowmaster> sure, I'm just being annoying.
20100915 07:06:17< shadowmaster> but often, if I'm not annoyingly explanative, people later complain why I didn't tell them something
20100915 07:06:43< shadowmaster> anyway don't take it too seriously, I'm not telling you off ;)
20100915 07:06:52< SpoOkyMagician> i see. and its fine.
20100915 07:08:16< shadowmaster> we'll soon have a topic-solved system to help with this kind of situations anyway
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20100915 07:08:47< shadowmaster> as soon as I edit a little 16x16 GIF for the second time. It may take a few months.
20100915 07:08:50< shadowmaster> give me 36 months maximum.
20100915 07:09:05< SpoOkyMagician> lol
20100915 07:11:15< SpoOkyMagician> hm...
20100915 07:12:12< SpoOkyMagician> i was thinking that the topic was wrote for 1.5 (some people still play older versions) but, I guess this is fine for now.
20100915 07:14:12< shadowmaster> it'll work unless there is an appropriate explanation of the same matter in the wiki.
20100915 07:14:18< shadowmaster> (unlikely)
20100915 07:15:09< SpoOkyMagician> alright.
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20100915 14:28:35< testpil0t> Hello :)
20100915 14:28:42< Pentalis> Hello
20100915 14:28:58< testpil0t> I have problems with wesnoth since today (after some ubuntu updates)
20100915 14:29:06< Pentalis> What is the problem?
20100915 14:29:18< Ivanovic> does clicking work no longer?
20100915 14:29:33< Ivanovic> switch to fullscreen or install a different libsdl version (1.2.14 is known to be broken!)
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20100915 14:30:10< testpil0t2> sorry, got disconnected
20100915 14:30:14< testpil0t2> i cant even start wesnoth
20100915 14:30:23< testpil0t2> Battle for Wesnoth v1.8.4
20100915 14:30:23< testpil0t2> Started on Wed Sep 15 14:29:37 2010
20100915 14:30:23< testpil0t2> Unexpected characters at line start, value '&' at <unknown>:1
20100915 14:30:26< testpil0t2> is what i get
20100915 14:30:42< testpil0t2> i first tried with v1.8.0 from the repos and then decided to compile 1.8.4 from source
20100915 14:30:47< testpil0t2> but the results were the same
20100915 14:31:06< Ivanovic> how do you start wesnoth?
20100915 14:31:13< testpil0t2> from console
20100915 14:31:29< Ivanovic> have you run make install?
20100915 14:31:35< testpil0t2> (ubuntu 10.04 x64)
20100915 14:31:39< Ivanovic> or do you run it right from the folder where you compiled?
20100915 14:31:42< testpil0t2> sure, its all in its place. 
20100915 14:31:48< Ivanovic> if you do so: you have to supply a userdata dir
20100915 14:31:58< Ivanovic> eg by using "./wesnoth ."
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20100915 14:32:30< testpil0t2> its installed aswell. but same stuff happened to the 1.8.0 which i had installed until today, which worked without problems yesterday
20100915 14:32:38< testpil0t2> i think some ubuntu update screwed it
20100915 14:33:04< Ivanovic> yeah, that might be
20100915 14:33:07< Ivanovic> no idea
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20100915 14:33:32< testpil0t2> i just checked. running from the source dir gives the same error
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20100915 14:35:35< testpil0t> any idea which library could cause that ?
20100915 14:35:42< Ivanovic> do you have some kind of update log that shows what you updated?
20100915 14:36:40< testpil0t> lemme check
20100915 14:37:46< testpil0t> Start-Date: 2010-09-15  01:08:05
20100915 14:37:47< testpil0t> Upgrade: libsmbclient (3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.1, 3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.2), apt-transport-https (0.7.25.3ubuntu9.1, 0.7.25.3ubuntu9.3), smbclient (3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.1, 3.4.7~dfsg-1$
20100915 14:37:47< testpil0t> End-Date: 2010-09-15  01:08:44
20100915 14:37:51< testpil0t> are the last updates
20100915 14:37:59< testpil0t> before wesnoth didnt work anymore
20100915 14:38:17< Ivanovic> those should not influence wesnoth at all
20100915 14:38:28< testpil0t> yep. thats what i just thought
20100915 14:38:33< Ivanovic> looking for something like boost, sdl or the likes sounds more promising
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20100915 14:38:49< Ivanovic> sorry, no idea what is going on there
20100915 14:38:53< Pentalis> testpil0t: try renaming your user folder such as to let Wesnoth generate a fresh one
20100915 14:39:38< testpil0t> oke
20100915 14:39:41< testpil0t> that did the job ;p
20100915 14:39:47< testpil0t> renaming my old wesnoth1.8 to wesnoth
20100915 14:39:58< Pentalis> There you go  :-)
20100915 14:40:03< Ivanovic> then you most likely got some broken file in there, eg a broken addon
20100915 14:40:04< testpil0t> many thanks
20100915 14:40:37< testpil0t> ah okay, that explains stuff
20100915 14:40:41< testpil0t> many thanks for your support
20100915 14:40:45< testpil0t> now i can live my addiction again ;p
20100915 14:40:52< Pentalis> What have we done!
20100915 14:41:59< testpil0t> :)
20100915 14:42:04< Pentalis> :]
20100915 14:45:15< testpil0t> oh just some little "feature-request" or rather some idea. When joining new maps/mods/whatever. it would be cool if those would be downloaded, so you can create own games like that
20100915 14:45:26< testpil0t> i think this would spread the mod stuff pretty much better :)
20100915 14:46:20< hylje> should be simple enough to make tags streamlining addons.wesnoth.org downloads
20100915 14:46:48< hylje> and after that making a.w.o better and more known
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