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20101002 00:19:26< Ivanovic> alink: btw the issue i showed you with r600g seems to be kernel related
20101002 00:19:45< Ivanovic> with 2.6.35.7 only the initial loading screen is borked, with 2.6.36-rc6 it is, uhm, everything
20101002 00:20:33< alink> do you also test your box with other opengl apps ?
20101002 00:20:42< Ivanovic> now rebooting with fglrx
20101002 00:20:48< Ivanovic> i tend to check speed in ut2004
20101002 00:21:19< Ivanovic> i don't have many other things that are in 64bit (so don't use the 32bit fallback stuff) and use opengl
20101002 00:24:14< Ivanovic> in fglrx the main menu is now a whole lot better with composite active (that is: it does work!)
20101002 00:24:26< Ivanovic> though the mouseover tooltips still leave some shadow
20101002 00:24:29< zookeeper> esr, regarding daravel's UtBS stuff: i've only read half of it, but i think he's somewhat wrecking nym's character.
20101002 00:25:32< esr> I haven't. Been fighting a fire on another project.  But I take your objerctions seriously - what's he done that makes you unhappy? 
20101002 00:26:15< alink> afk
20101002 00:26:25< Ivanovic> alink: that is the ghosting ingame is still there with fglrx
20101002 00:26:39< Ivanovic> so yeah, the open source driver is currently better suited for wesnoth-gl than fglrx!
20101002 00:26:51< Ivanovic> (though it is slower, but things are at least rendered correctly)
20101002 00:32:24< CIA-35> espreon * r46860 /trunk/data/tools/wmllint: Added a 'colour_lock' -> 'color_lock' conversion to wmllint.
20101002 00:32:26< zookeeper> esr, i think he's making her speech way too "generic epic archaic wannabe" -style. example:
20101002 00:32:33< zookeeper> Original: That’s a question for another time. Let’s keep exploring the wreckage.
20101002 00:32:33< zookeeper> Revised: A question for later, let us begin our search.
20101002 00:33:17< esr> Thereby de[riving Nym's lines of any individual style.  I see.
20101002 00:33:30< esr> s/de[riving/depriving/
20101002 00:33:55< esr> You're right.  That's a significant error.
20101002 00:34:49< zookeeper> Original: Maybe they’re hiding in the stables. Let’s go check.
20101002 00:34:54< zookeeper> Revised: The poor beasts must have taken shelter in the stables.
20101002 00:35:10< Espreon> Ewwww...
20101002 00:36:33< zookeeper> unfortunately i think the majority of his changes suffer from the same personality-depriving effect, so i can't really vote for applying any of that...
20101002 00:40:29< esr> Yeah.  I mean I'm not opposed to the use of that archaizing style, Goddes knows I've written enough of it into canon.  But Nym's supposed to sound like a somewhat wild-spirited teenage girl.  FAIL.
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20101002 00:47:13< Gambit> Is the source code for lobby available?
20101002 00:47:27< Gambit> And if not, can it be requested? :)
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20101002 01:42:38< CIA-35> espreon * r46861 /trunk/ (58 files in 26 dirs): Renamed [removeitem] to [remove_item]; deprecated [removeitem].
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20101002 01:47:44< fendrin> zookeeper: Just in case you read the logs, it would fit for Landar to be gay and have something going on between him and Kalenz who is surely bisexual. That would really fit the story.
20101002 01:48:55< fendrin> Arc: :-)
20101002 01:49:50< fendrin> esr: The romance you developed for Cleodil and Kalenz is really well done, no doubt there.
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20101002 02:12:13< anonymissimus> Espreon: that's an important syntax change, this should be mentioned in a syntax changes thread
20101002 02:13:54< Espreon> OK.
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20101002 02:16:05< anonymissimus> the colour->color stuff too, actually
20101002 02:16:40< Gambit> Oh someone fixed that? :D
20101002 02:17:42< Espreon> Gambit: Yeah, alink fixed that awhile ago.
20101002 02:18:40< Espreon> Meh, I'm too lazy to whip up something for the fora; I'll compile something/have something compiled tomorrow.
20101002 02:20:38< anonymissimus> The deprecation message stuff is not of much use at all. all mainline content is wmllint'ed, and umc authors jump rom one stable branch to the next
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20101002 02:21:59< anonymissimus> That is, I suggest that deprecation messages should stay longer, so that umc authors could make use of them...
20101002 02:22:41< Espreon> How long do you think deprecated stuff should linger?
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20101002 02:27:45< anonymissimus> maybe until the beta series ?
20101002 02:28:06< anonymissimus> so umc authors who update early enough benefit from them
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20101002 02:34:00< Espreon> Goodbye.
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20101002 08:29:07< CIA-35> silene * r46862 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Added a delay Lua function.
20101002 08:29:08< CIA-35> silene * r46863 /trunk/ (data/lua/wml-tags.lua src/game_events.cpp): Moved [delay] implementation to Lua. (Fix for bug #16755.)
20101002 08:29:11< CIA-35> silene * r46864 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: Added test for [delay] before [animate_unit].
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20101002 08:39:13< mordante> servus
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20101002 09:12:17< mordante> alink Ivanovic isle of the damned still at 0 fps but TB more like 4 fps so there is improvement :-)
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20101002 09:42:43< CIA-35> silene * r46865 /trunk/src/game_preferences.cpp: Defaulted startup effect to disabled, since bug #16722 has been postponed.
20101002 09:43:41< shadowmaster> wesbot: bug 16722
20101002 09:43:41< wesbot> Bug #16722  Assigned to: Mark de Wever <mordante>  Status: Postponed  Priority: 5 - Normal
20101002 09:43:44< wesbot> Summary: Home Page - Massive Slowdown by main Wesnoth logo
20101002 09:43:47< wesbot> Original submission: When starting Battle for Wesnoth up, the main page's "Bat
20101002 09:43:50< wesbot> tle for Wesnoth" title with matching shield / sword that appears from left to ri
20101002 09:43:53< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?16722
20101002 09:44:11< shadowmaster> don't we want that thing to be removed?
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20101002 09:47:39< shadowmaster> also, wow, "copy NUL path/to/file"? what's wrong with "del path/to/file", person-who-posted-that-comment? :/
20101002 09:49:58< silene> perhaps it avoids an error message?
20101002 09:55:40< shadowmaster> wow, xephyr is really nice.
20101002 09:56:08< shadowmaster> there's something just nice about being able to run fluxbox in a little window inside my KDE session, with all my config etc.
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20101002 10:05:10< boucman> silene: thx for fixing 16755
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20101002 10:08:53< zookeeper> so does trunk still have problems with disconnections when uploading/downloading something big? http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31798
20101002 10:12:27< silene> boucman: np, it was just a side effect of a much bigger bug that had annoyed me for some time (that is, unresponsible game when using [delay])
20101002 10:12:46< boucman> unresponsive ?
20101002 10:13:36< shadowmaster> so [delay] no longer blocks the game UI? cool.
20101002 10:13:53< boucman> that's great :)
20101002 10:14:00< silene> boucman: yes, it was a plain sleep
20101002 10:15:05< zookeeper> huh. really?
20101002 10:15:10< zookeeper> cool.
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20101002 10:37:29< zookeeper> silene, btw, i still haven't figured out an efficient way to finish my [store_reachable_locations] implementation... :P
20101002 10:38:52< silene> what are you missing?
20101002 10:39:34< Arc> im actually building a tool to do shavian translations faster (using per-word dictionary lookups, etc) using python and ncurses
20101002 10:39:44< zookeeper> silene, the commented out part, which should control whether it stores the attack range or just the movement range (default)
20101002 10:39:58< Arc> http://media.concordance-xmpp.org/shawpo1.png << how far ive gotten, with word-by-word matchups and highlighting words it cant autotranslate
20101002 10:40:50< Arc> and a full .po parser/writer in python 3
20101002 10:41:55< zookeeper> silene, i think the reason i didn't get it working just by using another [store_locations] with find_in=variable and radius=1 was that it messes with the [filter_location] that the tag also needs to accept (that is, only reachable locations which also pass the given filter are stored)
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20101002 10:42:07< zookeeper> or something like that. gotta go afk for a bit... ->
20101002 10:42:16< zookeeper> i don't have a testcase for it in trunk yet
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20101002 10:45:39< Ivanovic> moin
20101002 10:50:24< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
20101002 10:52:05< Arc> hey Ivanovic 
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20101002 10:59:53< zookeeper> silene, i'll try to figure it out myself one more time later today and if that fails, i can give you a proper testcase for it
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20101002 11:45:21< CIA-35> mordante * r46866 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/window_builder/tree_view.cpp: 
20101002 11:45:22< CIA-35> Fix some spelling errors.
20101002 11:45:22< CIA-35> One found by Arc.
20101002 11:46:42< Arc> uh-o, here come translation changes!
20101002 11:47:10< Arc> ->.pot->.po
20101002 11:48:54< Ivanovic> Arc: uhm, no
20101002 11:49:05< Ivanovic> this depends on when i run the pot-update and i don't think it is time yet...
20101002 11:49:06< Arc> no?
20101002 11:49:12< Arc> ah ok
20101002 11:49:22< Arc> that helps me a lot, i have a lot of uncommitted changes
20101002 11:50:58< CIA-35> mordante * r46867 /trunk/ (changelog cmake/revision.cmake src/CMakeLists.txt): 
20101002 11:50:58< CIA-35> Properly updates cmake revision numbers.
20101002 11:50:58< CIA-35> Rewrote the code and should properly work with out-of-tree builds and
20101002 11:50:58< CIA-35> also no longer causing unneeded recompilations if the version number
20101002 11:50:58< CIA-35> didn't change. Fixes bug #16483.
20101002 11:50:59< CIA-35> mordante * r46868 /trunk/cmake/revision.cmake: Spaces to tabs.
20101002 11:51:02< mordante> Ivanovic, would be nice if you can also test it ^^
20101002 11:51:25< Ivanovic> mkay
20101002 11:51:39< mordante> I only tested with 2.6 and works for me
20101002 11:52:38< Ivanovic> i just need another commit afterwards to really be able to test it
20101002 11:52:45< Ivanovic> currently recompiling with r46868
20101002 11:53:41< mordante> svn up -r 46867 should do the trick ;-)
20101002 11:53:52< mordante> the second one is just formatting
20101002 11:54:07< Ivanovic> hey, i don't like to change my build scripts!
20101002 11:54:07< mordante> but I'll commit something
20101002 11:54:12< Ivanovic> (the include svn up to head)
20101002 11:55:58< Ivanovic> and yes, i am not 100% awake yet, currently busy with my breakfast tea...
20101002 11:55:59< Ivanovic> ;)
20101002 11:56:13< CIA-35> mordante * r46869 /trunk/changelog: End entries in the changelog with a point.
20101002 11:56:30< mordante> there you are^
20101002 11:56:55< mordante> I'm about leave for dinner ;-)
20101002 11:57:30< Ivanovic> dinner?!?
20101002 11:57:50< mordante> yeah well dinner is when I eat stuff I cool
20101002 11:57:52< Ivanovic> jepp, the change works, not just backport it to 1.8, too
20101002 11:57:56< mordante> cook*
20101002 11:57:59< Ivanovic> ahhh, okay
20101002 11:58:18< mordante> s/not/now/ ?
20101002 11:58:26< Ivanovic> yeah
20101002 11:58:38< Ivanovic> like i said, not really awake yet which leads to a high typo ratio
20101002 11:59:22< mordante> :-)
20101002 12:02:45< Ivanovic> and yeah, i got to leave the house today for some shopping so that i can cook something tomorrow
20101002 12:03:00< Ivanovic> (todays warm food will be something delivered by the asian restaurant close by...)
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20101002 12:15:05< mordante> I already did shopping
20101002 12:15:11< mordante> off for dinner now
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20101002 12:26:45< CIA-35> boucman * r46870 /trunk/ (changelog src/unit_frame.cpp src/unit_frame.hpp): add two new animation parameters : directional_x and directional_y
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20101002 13:02:40< CIA-35> mordante * r46871 /branches/1.8/ (changelog cmake/revision.cmake src/CMakeLists.txt): 
20101002 13:02:40< CIA-35> Properly updates cmake revision numbers.
20101002 13:02:40< CIA-35> Rewrote the code and should properly work with out-of-tree builds and
20101002 13:02:40< CIA-35> also no longer causing unneeded recompilations if the version number
20101002 13:02:40< CIA-35> didn't change. Fixes bug #16483, backported from r46867.
20101002 13:05:14< Ivanovic> hi boucman
20101002 13:05:15< Ivanovic> /src/wesnoth/src/unit_frame.cpp: In member function 'std::set<map_location, std::less<map_location>, std::allocator<map_location> > unit_frame::get_overlaped_hex(int, const map_location&, const map_location&, const frame_parameters&, const frame_parameters&, bool) const':
20101002 13:05:17< Ivanovic> /src/wesnoth/src/unit_frame.cpp:584: error: unused variable 'd2'
20101002 13:07:09< boucman> that's weird, it compiles here
20101002 13:07:13< boucman> but i'll fix that 
20101002 13:10:13< Ivanovic> the warning for this d2 is correct
20101002 13:10:24< Ivanovic> the one further up is used, the one down there (which is identical) is not
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20101002 13:10:36< boucman> yes, fixing it, it's a real bug
20101002 13:11:14< boucman> what's weird is that I always check for errors before comitting and didn't catch it
20101002 13:11:36< Ivanovic> different compiler version?
20101002 13:11:43< boucman> maybe
20101002 13:12:44< boucman> done
20101002 13:12:52< CIA-35> boucman * r46872 /trunk/src/unit_frame.cpp: fix small bug in previous code spotted by ivanovic
20101002 13:15:45< Ivanovic> eleazzaar, zookeeper: many terrains in the editor seem to have no description assigned at mouse over, would be cool if you could look into this
20101002 13:16:35< Ivanovic> eleazzaar: regarding animated terrains: what about giving the abyss stuff (the chasm with some "stars" in it) some kind of sparkle/twinkle?
20101002 13:18:32< Ivanovic> and i love the animated lava
20101002 13:19:28< Ivanovic> though it feels a little "flickering" (hard to describe) as if it could use more "alternative animations"
20101002 13:20:02< Ivanovic> if there is a larger patch of the animated lava you see basically the same change at several locations identical looking and this is just interswitched a little
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20101002 13:37:54< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: any ideas about this report? https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16794
20101002 13:38:10< Ivanovic> most likely some borked deps, but since it is scons you might have a better idea
20101002 13:42:03< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: I've responded to it.
20101002 13:43:21< Ivanovic> ok
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20101002 15:13:34< mordante> boucman, it seems r42851 breaks terrain display in tiny gui, shall I file a report or do you want to look at it now?
20101002 15:13:52< boucman> wesbot: r42851
20101002 15:14:00< boucman> wesbot: log 42851
20101002 15:14:01< wesbot> boucman * r42851 : reorganize single hex drawings (base, overlay, villages) to all derive from a common macro. Usage should be more straightforward, all parameters and usage are similar. No expected compatibility problems
20101002 15:14:05< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=42851
20101002 15:15:05< Ivanovic> mordante: honestly i'd say that we should depricate tinygui for the moment
20101002 15:15:15< Ivanovic> wait for the result of the opengl branch and then check further
20101002 15:15:21< boucman> mordante: in what way does it break stuff ? afik there is nothing about tinygui in terrain WML
20101002 15:15:28< Ivanovic> if we got basically free zooming there that could be the best way to go
20101002 15:15:53< mordante> boucman, the terrains are drawn wrong, let me take a screenshot
20101002 15:16:11< boucman> Ivanovic: afaiu tiny gui is more about adapting the input and menus to tiny screen than about adapting the graphics (though we did that too) and in that regard shouldn't be depreciated
20101002 15:16:16< boucman> mordante: thx
20101002 15:16:26< Ivanovic> boucman: the menu adaption stuff sucks currently anyway
20101002 15:16:32< boucman> ok
20101002 15:16:35< Ivanovic> boucman: we can easiy implement this part in the normal system
20101002 15:17:01< Ivanovic> the main part currently about tinygui is the ingame graphics being scaled to 36x36
20101002 15:17:51< mordante> Ivanovic, I think tiny-gui has advantages regarding memory usage
20101002 15:18:04< Ivanovic> mordante: the main memory abuser currently is terrains
20101002 15:18:37< mordante> yeah so scaling them down will help
20101002 15:18:40< Ivanovic> since tinygui is most often used together with lowmem (where no unit images but the base is used) we should also offer this lowmem system for terrains
20101002 15:19:00< Ivanovic> if there are by far less terrains handled (with transitions and all the stuff) memory usage should go down nicely, too
20101002 15:19:39< boucman> Ivanovic: I think in lowmem/tiny we should remove all non-essential transitions, it would both help memory and readability in low resolution
20101002 15:19:40< Ivanovic> just from the idea tinygui should only allow using wesnoth on system with a low resolution
20101002 15:19:54< Ivanovic> lowmem is meant to reduce the memory usage
20101002 15:20:07< Ivanovic> in fact that tiny does significantly lower memory usage is a side effect
20101002 15:20:16< Ivanovic> but it does come with problems like blurring
20101002 15:20:31< Ivanovic> what if you got a device with a really low resolution but enough ram to handle non lowmem mode?
20101002 15:21:02< Ivanovic> boucman: we should remove non-essential transitions, animations and no idea what else in low mem mode
20101002 15:21:24< mordante> boucman, http://imagebin.org/116669
20101002 15:21:41< boucman> wow 
20101002 15:21:46< boucman> broken indeed
20101002 15:22:03< Ivanovic> a lot more is broken there, have a look at the top bar
20101002 15:22:14< Ivanovic> the flag should be close to the menu buttons
20101002 15:22:16< Ivanovic> ;)
20101002 15:22:36< mordante> Ivanovic, I'm aware more is broken ;-)
20101002 15:22:58< boucman> mordante: you sure that particular commit broke it ?
20101002 15:22:58< Ivanovic> mordante: since "a lot" is broken at the moment i am all for not officially supporting tinygui for the moment
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20101002 15:23:26< Ivanovic> mordante: once we see how the opengl stuff works out we can check further
20101002 15:23:50< mordante> Ivanovic, well with the other problems it's playable, scrolling in here makes a mess even worse
20101002 15:23:54< Ivanovic> IMO the best case would be if the game supported resolutions from 320x240 up to 2560x1600 (as single screen)
20101002 15:24:07< mordante> boucman, I did a git-bisect which blames this commit
20101002 15:24:12< Ivanovic> without any switches required and whatnot
20101002 15:24:32< mordante> Ivanovic, I agree that would be great
20101002 15:24:51< Ivanovic> mordante: currently in theory tinygui does 2 things:
20101002 15:24:59< Ivanovic> 1) define different font sizes and menu layouts
20101002 15:25:12< Ivanovic> with the tinygui work this is possible to do all resolution based, right?
20101002 15:25:35< Ivanovic> 2) reduce all graphics to half in each dimension and by this reducing memory usage
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20101002 15:26:03< mordante> "with the tinygui work this is possible to do all resolution based, right?" not sure what you mean
20101002 15:26:05< Ivanovic> the problem is that with '2' we also get blurry graphics and team colorization not working anymore
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20101002 15:26:27< Ivanovic> mordante: in the gui config stuff for the game screen things are defined resolution based
20101002 15:26:38< Ivanovic> the fontsizes will differ between 800x600 and 2014x768
20101002 15:26:45< Ivanovic> s/2014/1024
20101002 15:26:53< Ivanovic> this is already possible
20101002 15:27:15< mordante> the gui2 config has code for it, but only tests upon loading a dialog
20101002 15:27:19< Ivanovic> currently the tinygui modes are only available when the tinygui is set simply to directly define this stuff for the main menu
20101002 15:27:29< mordante> switching at runtime isn't supported (yet)
20101002 15:27:51< Ivanovic> the main idea of tinygui was to make the game screen usable
20101002 15:27:59< mordante> I know
20101002 15:28:00< Ivanovic> if there are just 4 hex shown it is clearly not using
20101002 15:28:05< Ivanovic> s/using/usable
20101002 15:28:18< Ivanovic> so all dimensions are halfed resulting in more stuff being shown
20101002 15:28:21< mordante> still I think we should either fix the bug or postpone it and wait and see what OGL brings us
20101002 15:28:27< Ivanovic> this can in theory be done by zooming
20101002 15:28:37< Ivanovic> currently this is really expensive
20101002 15:28:43< Ivanovic> with opengl it should come "for free"
20101002 15:28:57< Ivanovic> (if it is supported by the graphics adaptor)
20101002 15:29:07< mordante> I know OGL will also fix some other issues in the code for free
20101002 15:29:20< Ivanovic> that is why i'd say that we should put tinygui on the "lets wait what OGL will bring"-list
20101002 15:29:31< mordante> therefore I also postponed some bugs
20101002 15:29:54< mordante> well I just wanted to notify boucman about the bug, it might be an easy fix for him or not
20101002 15:32:09< boucman> it's completely broken for me but in a totally different way...
20101002 15:32:34< boucman> it's compaining that image arn't 72x72 and can't be masked
20101002 15:32:51< mordante> boucman, you need to install wesnoth
20101002 15:33:00< boucman> oh :(
20101002 15:33:14 * boucman hasn't installed wesnoth for ages
20101002 15:33:21< boucman> always run from the build dir
20101002 15:33:41< mordante> I normally also do that, but I know it's required for tiny-gui ;-)
20101002 15:33:55< Ivanovic> boucman: and you need imagemagic for the conversion of tinygui
20101002 15:39:57< Ivanovic> boucman: just let it be as it is for the moment
20101002 15:40:09< boucman> yes, 
20101002 15:40:35< boucman> my guess is that there are some subtle problems with the path to tiny images and the images are simply not found
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20101002 15:47:38< mordante> boucman, do you want to look at it further or shall I file a bug report?
20101002 15:47:50< boucman> no, please fill a BR
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20101002 15:53:12< mordante> boucman, https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?16801
20101002 15:54:17< mordante> GNUtoo|laptop, not sure whether you followed the discussion above, but it starts at 15:13 GMT +2
20101002 15:54:22< mordante> afk now
20101002 15:54:37< GNUtoo|laptop> mordante, no I didn't
20101002 15:55:05< mordante> GNUtoo|laptop, it's about the problems with tinygui especially the terrain
20101002 15:57:40< GNUtoo|laptop> yes I just looked at the screenshot
20101002 15:57:52< GNUtoo|laptop> should I do some videos+screenshots with other devices?
20101002 15:58:40< mordante> not really I found the commit that caused the bug and filed a report 
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20101002 16:03:55< GNUtoo|laptop> ok
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20101002 16:18:52< eleazzaar> Ivanovic: re terrain tooltips:
20101002 16:18:53< eleazzaar> https://gna.org/bugs/?16450
20101002 16:20:15< eleazzaar> Ivanovic: i've had a related FR filed for years, so i moved forward with it, slightly breaking things, to encourage a fix
20101002 16:21:31< eleazzaar> Ivanovic: the lava is not a great animation-- i threw something together to make it easier to for an artist to come along and do something better
20101002 16:39:42< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46873 /trunk/data/scenario-test.cfg: Added two menu items to test [store_reachable_locations].
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20101002 16:42:44< ilor> hi all
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20101002 17:10:53< zookeeper> silene, http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/x3PPL1zP <- can you help me with the ??? part?
20101002 17:14:29< silene> zookeeper: why do you think you can't do [store_locations]?
20101002 17:15:01< silene> sorry, my mistake
20101002 17:15:25< zookeeper> because you told me so some days ago ;)
20101002 17:17:55< silene> zookeeper: some days ago, you wanted to modify the content of location_filter; but according to your comment, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore, so the commented should work (just remove the brackets around location_filter, they don't make any sense)
20101002 17:18:38< zookeeper> oh.
20101002 17:18:39 * zookeeper tries
20101002 17:19:33< silene> i'm not an expert on slf, but isn't the first [and] superfluous? only one for location_filter should be enough, shouldn't it?
20101002 17:19:57< silene> or perhaps not, due to the radius line
20101002 17:20:15< zookeeper> ah, it works! thanks
20101002 17:20:24< zookeeper> yeah, [and]s are often needed when radius is used
20101002 17:22:11< zookeeper> bummer. i already found a corner case which this doesn't handle...
20101002 17:23:31< zookeeper> a location can be within attack range but still be excluded since the first [store_locations] only stores the locs matching filter_location
20101002 17:24:42< silene> zookeeper: just add "range == 'attack' or" at line 14?
20101002 17:32:38< zookeeper> silene, i did this, seems to work: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/xT6dv88s
20101002 17:32:46< zookeeper> lots of brackets though...
20101002 17:37:22< silene> zookeeper: i'm not too worried about brackets, but i fear the performances will be bad; [store_locations] has not been designed with your usage in mind, so the [or]find_in= construct will have a nonnegligible cost
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20101002 17:38:39< zookeeper> silene, well, if i knew how i'd have tried to remove the inner loop entirely, since it seems likely that there's a much more efficient way to do it
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20101002 17:40:06< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46874 /trunk/data/lua/wml-tags.lua: Fixed range=attack in [store_reachable_locations] not working.
20101002 17:40:22< silene> zookeeper: it may be worth writing this idiom directly in lua; something like "local res={}" before, "for k,p in ipairs(wesnoth.get_locations(...)) do res[p[1] + 1000*p[2]] = {x=p[1],y=p[2]} end" in place of the [store_location], "for k,p in pairs(res) do wesnoth.set_variable(..., p) end" at the end
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20101002 17:46:29< zookeeper> silene, can't say i fully understand your description
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20101002 18:28:48< CIA-35> ilor * r46875 /branches/new_addon_server/ (1489 files in 107 dirs): Merge branch 'master' into new_addon_server
20101002 18:29:04< CIA-35> ilor * r46876 /branches/new_addon_server/data/tools/addon_server/run: remove cruft from new addon server run script
20101002 18:29:09< CIA-35> ilor * r46877 /branches/new_addon_server/data/tools/addon_server/ (settings.py settings.py.example): move new addon server's settings.py to settings.py.example since it needs to be customized anyway
20101002 18:29:16< CIA-35> ilor * r46878 /branches/new_addon_server/data/tools/addon_server/media/ (30 files in 3 dirs): add the MIA addon server media (css, images)
20101002 18:29:24< CIA-35> ilor * r46879 /branches/new_addon_server/data/tools/addon_server/ (9 files in 4 dirs): reduce the amount of hard-coded paths in the new addon server by using MEDIA_URL in templates and MEDIA_ROOT where applicable
20101002 18:31:43< mordante> nice ilor :-)
20101002 18:35:28< ilor> mordante: well I got a while to clean up some of the issues in the new addon server
20101002 18:35:46< ilor> at the very least, it will actually have a working web interface now
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20101002 18:37:03< ilor> I've put up a status page at http://wiki.wesnoth.org/NewAddonServer
20101002 18:39:22< mordante> ah nice
20101002 18:39:23< ilor> Ivanovic: you might be interested in ^
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20101002 18:40:03< ilor> mordante: generally the issue is I've learned some thins about django since this was written, and I see how bad it is in some places ;)
20101002 18:41:44< mordante> was it the first time you used django?
20101002 18:41:57< ilor> BTW if anyone's brave enough to try and use the addon server, feel free to add issues to the wiki page (and ping me in here)
20101002 18:42:02< ilor> mordante: yeah 
20101002 18:44:07< mordante> then I guess it's normal you see ways for improvement
20101002 18:44:09< mordante> ;-)
20101002 18:44:30< ilor> I could use a current list of valid addon types
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20101002 18:51:55< ilor> nevermind, got it
20101002 19:03:45< CIA-35> ilor * r46880 /branches/new_addon_server/data/tools/addon_server/addons/fixtures/ (. initial_data.json): new addon server: add fixture with addon types per the spec
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20101002 19:15:39< silene> zookeeper: don't worry about that; i've been willing to add a location_set/map class to helper.lua; that will be a good time to do it and you will get to see the end result
20101002 19:19:10< zookeeper> silene, okay
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20101002 20:03:51< CIA-35> ilor * r46881 /branches/new_addon_server/data/tools/addon_server/ (addons/views.py settings.py.example urls.py): NAS: fix addon publication by cleaning up the icon code a bit
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20101002 20:05:59< shadowmaster> ilor: wow.
20101002 20:06:20< shadowmaster> you are alive and kicking butt like crazy. Nice.
20101002 20:07:07< silene> zookeeper: by the way, in case you missed my post, you can now release a version of proximity with a proper ai
20101002 20:07:15< shadowmaster> may I know if you have any client-side changes in your queue already?
20101002 20:08:58< shadowmaster> (and whether you have chosen a name for the new server yet) ^^
20101002 20:12:57< zookeeper> silene, yes, i saw it, really nice :) i'll try to release a new version with it probably tomorrow
20101002 20:13:16< beetlenaut> I want to put in a portrait for the wraith. (One has a line in DW.) Kitty says to use the ghost for now, and she'll do a wraith eventually.
20101002 20:13:22< beetlenaut> So: should I wire in ghost.png or make a copy of it and call that one wraith.png? That would make it easier to update later when the portrait exists--and also make it possible to do after the string freeze (right?).
20101002 20:13:53< ilor> shadowmaster: today's been surprisingly productive for me ;)
20101002 20:14:11< beetlenaut> zookeeper ^
20101002 20:14:33< ilor> shadowmaster: there are some client-side changes in the branch when compared to master, but I don't have anything pending
20101002 20:14:35< zookeeper> beetlenaut, ohh, good reminder. i was supposed to wire in the ghost portrait for the wraith some time ago...
20101002 20:14:51< zookeeper> i can do it now
20101002 20:15:03< ilor> shadowmaster: at the moment the name is "new addon server", which is annoyingly long to type ;P
20101002 20:15:28< shadowmaster> consier umcd :p
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20101002 20:15:39< ilor> niiiice :P
20101002 20:16:03< ilor> shadowmaster: it;s not a standalone daemon though, just a django web-app
20101002 20:17:17< shadowmaster> umcserver, umcsvr, umcweb, umcservice, umcsvc, umci, umcinterface, etc.
20101002 20:18:05< shadowmaster> I had plans to rewrite the add-ons management code at the client side, including the add-ons manager interface
20101002 20:18:21< ilor> shadowmaster: my class team had those plans as well
20101002 20:18:34< ilor> it was one of the first feature cuts
20101002 20:18:53< shadowmaster> so that won't come from there?
20101002 20:19:09< ilor> sadly no, the in-game UI is ugly as ever
20101002 20:19:13< CIA-35> zookeeper * r46882 /trunk/data/core/units/undead/Spirit_Wraith.cfg: Wired in the Ghost portrait to the Wraith as well.
20101002 20:19:31< shadowmaster> okay, well, my idea was to pave the road for potential new features and a GUI2 manager
20101002 20:19:38< ilor> the code is a *bit* better partitioned now that the addon communication class is separate
20101002 20:19:42< zookeeper> beetlenaut, ^ actually i had just forgotten to commit that, it seems ;)
20101002 20:20:02< shadowmaster> I'll take a look at it when I have some time/energy then
20101002 20:20:18< ilor> shadowmaster: there's some WIP gui2 addon code I think
20101002 20:20:21< ilor> yours?
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20101002 20:20:31< shadowmaster> no, that's modrdante's
20101002 20:20:36< shadowmaster> *mordante's
20101002 20:20:38< ilor> figures ;)
20101002 20:21:03< mordante> ilor, that code is really crude and used for testing only a long way from being usable
20101002 20:21:23< beetlenaut> zookeeper: OK. I'll keep my hands off of it.
20101002 20:22:03< ilor> mordante: yeah I recall something to that effect
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20101002 20:22:38< ilor> anyway, addon publication and download actually works with the current new-addon-server code
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20101002 20:23:06< ilor> it's a big step :P
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20101002 20:33:57< ilor> shadowmaster: was it you who added addon dependency support?
20101002 20:34:10< shadowmaster> hm, no, it's been there for ages.
20101002 20:34:29< shadowmaster> FAAB did the last improvement to the client-side handling of that.
20101002 20:35:01< ilor> I see
20101002 20:35:10< mordante> Ivanovic, does update-po4a also fail for you? (I want to make sure it works with autotools before looking at cmake)
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20101002 21:02:15< zookeeper> esr, kitty seems almost done with the liberty portraits, so i suppose you could do the relnan gender switch anytime now.
20101002 21:06:16< zookeeper> i don't recall if we ever discussed what unit type she should be, though.
20101002 21:16:00< CIA-35> ilor * r46883 /branches/new_addon_server/src/addon/client.cpp: NAS: slightly better error messages in-game (show contents of the h1 tag of the error page if present)
20101002 21:22:40< mordante> I'm off bye
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20101002 21:26:10< esr> zookeeper: I'm open to suggestions.
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20101002 21:27:40< zookeeper> esr, i was thinking of just making a female variant of the village elder
20101002 21:28:07< esr> zookeeper: Competely reasonable.
20101002 21:28:37< zookeeper> (or rather senior village elder, the highwayman equivalent)
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20101002 21:40:55< ilor> how are addon dependencies stored on the current server?
20101002 21:40:58< ilor> shadowmaster ?
20101002 21:41:31< shadowmaster> as a comma-separated list of add-on ids in the .dependencies member of the add-on config
20101002 21:43:17< ilor> is it possible to upload an addon with unmet deps on the server?
20101002 21:43:38< shadowmaster> yeah. there's no server-side validation (or client-side, for that matter) done on that list at upload time
20101002 21:43:58< ilor> I'm gonna have to implement this in the new server and its faster to ask than to look in the code ;)
20101002 21:45:07< ilor> I'd like to do it as a relation on the addons table
20101002 21:45:28< ilor> but this will get messy in case someone deletes an addon others depend on, and then reuploads it
20101002 21:48:10< ilor> shadowmaster: by ids you mean names, right?
20101002 21:48:10< shadowmaster> probably.
20101002 21:48:29< shadowmaster> yeah, I do.
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20101002 21:49:35< shadowmaster> you may want to make that thing use the new naming conventions (i.e. "name" should be "id") as well, since campaignd's code is a mess because of that too
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20101002 21:50:11< ilor> shadowmaster: I rather need id to be the internal addon number
20101002 21:50:36< shadowmaster> maybe you could use unique_id like in the game's unit management code?
20101002 21:51:23< ilor> shadowmaster: messy, django uses id by default and overriding it is possible but takes work
20101002 21:51:34< Espreon> mordante: The source of tip cutoff seems to only occur on Windows on Mac OS X. So, that's why you're not experiencing it.
20101002 21:51:36< shadowmaster> aw
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20101002 22:03:08< CIA-35> espreon * r46884 /trunk/data/temp-file_send_data_strings.cfg: Removed file that only contained strings for the statistics upload stuff.
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20101002 22:29:47< nejucomo> Hi, I'm building from source with scons on a server.  I'd like to build only wesnothd, and not the client.  Must I install all dependencies (such as sdl) even if I only need wesnothd?
20101002 22:31:26< boucman> nejucomo: i'm not sure how it works, but there is a build param for scons telling it what binary to build, select only wesnothd and see if that reduces the number of dependencies he's requiring
20101002 22:31:35< boucman> loonycyborg probably knows more about that
20101002 22:31:53< ilor> nejucomo: iirc the server still needs some parts of sdl like sdlnet
20101002 22:32:34< loonycyborg> Yes. SDL is always needed. But wesnothd can be compiled without pango etc
20101002 22:32:42< ilor> but "scons wesnothd" should need less than a full build
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20101002 22:33:10< nejucomo> Ok, thx.
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20101002 22:48:17< iwontbecreative> Hi
20101002 22:48:56< iwontbecreative>  I've heard that they were some (tools or server) parts of wesnoth written in Python. DOes sombody now if those need work ?
20101002 22:49:48< boucman> iwontbecreative: esr is probably the one you want to talk to...
20101002 22:50:19< iwontbecreative> Ok
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20101002 23:13:43< shadowmaster> Gambit: http://shadowm.rewound.net/asuka/  of course it's still a work-in-progress, but it's starting to  look like an actual db
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20101002 23:16:54< shadowmaster> it's essentially a simple front-end to the code behind http://shadowm.rewound.net/wesnoth-fortune.php
20101002 23:17:28< Gambit> shadowmaster: It's completely stark white
20101002 23:17:30< Gambit> :\
20101002 23:17:42< shadowmaster> try again
20101002 23:17:55< Gambit> Ah
20101002 23:18:05< shadowmaster> you probably tried at the same time I was uploading the new revision
20101002 23:19:11< Gambit> hehe http://shadowm.rewound.net/asuka/?mode=show&id=ebce8741199b510d3de338a8904b01f50bce0298
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20101002 23:49:04< ilor> night
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