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20101010 00:49:30< CIA-88> espreon * r46991 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/01_The_Morning_After.cfg: Made many events in scenario one custom events that are to be activated with [fire_event]; added triggers to go along with them.
20101010 00:57:27< CIA-88> espreon * r46992 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/ (5 files): Split the remaining 'Death of <heroes>' objectives.
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20101010 01:10:24< CIA-88> gabba * r46993 /trunk/src/whiteboard/side_actions.cpp: Whiteboard/side_actions: make sure to return end() right away if action queue is empty. Should fix bug #16705.
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20101010 01:19:47< CIA-88> alink * r46994 /branches/ogl/ (1288 files in 84 dirs): Merge trunk with ogl branch up to r46990
20101010 01:20:11< alink> pfff that took ages :-/
20101010 01:28:04< loonycyborg> alink: I've managed to build the ogl branch for win32 with cross-compiler and run it with wine. Though I've used GLEW.
20101010 01:28:33< alink> loonycyborg: ah good :)
20101010 01:29:05< alink> I found how to deal with extensions under windows but that looks painful
20101010 01:29:55< alink> well I just found doc, I didn't try yet
20101010 01:31:00< alink> so GLEW is maybe a better plan
20101010 01:31:30 * alink was reading this : http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Getting_started#OpenGL_2.0.2B_and_extensions
20101010 01:32:04< alink> which, in fact, also recommend to use GLEW :)
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20101010 01:40:35< alink> loonycyborg: ok so does that means that you also support the idea of using GLEW. I hoped to avoid the dependency, but that will simplify things for multi-platform stuff.
20101010 01:41:11 * alink doesn't want to write a lot of windows-specific code
20101010 01:41:22< loonycyborg> iirc SDL has some cross-platform functions to get extensions.
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20101010 01:41:50< alink> SDL 1.2 ?
20101010 01:42:10< alink> ah yes I see SDL_GL_GetProcAddress
20101010 01:42:31< loonycyborg> Exactly.
20101010 01:43:03< loonycyborg> If you won't be using much new extension that may be tolerable.
20101010 01:43:12< loonycyborg> *extensions
20101010 01:43:28< alink> ok I will study this
20101010 01:44:11< alink> No I don't plan to use more extensions, in fact it is possible that (much) later FBO will be not needed anymore
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20101010 01:52:39< gabba> damn unstable connection
20101010 01:53:16< gabba> dunno if it's empathy being horrible at IRC, or just my internet
20101010 02:06:12< CIA-88> espreon * r46995 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Killed ADD; expanded some VARIABLE_OP and VARIABLE calls; killed some unneeded initial variable setups; made some [variable] codeblocks use 'boolean_equals' instead of 'equals'.
20101010 02:07:35< alink> loonycyborg: ok seems to work and relatively easy to use. Still a bit cumbersome but at least no windows-specific function. I'll clean fbo code and start to use it.
20101010 02:08:34< loonycyborg> Great! :)
20101010 02:09:29< alink> loonycyborg: thanks for the SDL tip btw
20101010 02:09:40< loonycyborg> np
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20101010 05:33:45< CIA-88> gabba * r46996 /trunk/ (10 files in 4 dirs): 
20101010 05:33:45< CIA-88> Whiteboard: add a new "Execute all actions" command, bound to ctrl+y by default,
20101010 05:33:45< CIA-88> and added to the actions (not context) menu. It executes actions in sequence
20101010 05:33:45< CIA-88> until the first attack, or until an action fails to execute. Fulfills the
20101010 05:33:45< CIA-88> feature request of bug #16807.
20101010 05:33:46< CIA-88> Simplified some return type in the process in side_actions: returning iterators wasn't really useful for the execute functions.
20101010 05:33:47< CIA-88> gabba * r46997 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Changelog entries for my last two commits
20101010 05:35:02< gabba> boucman: ^
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20101010 11:11:02< CIA-88> ivanovic * r46998 /trunk/po/wesnoth-units/gl.po: updated Galician translation
20101010 11:15:21< Ivanovic> moin
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20101010 11:37:58< SpoOkyMagician> Espreon: updated fedora. But, I need to re-add my auto login command. (forgot what it was)
20101010 11:39:16< SpoOkyMagician> (need to install wesnoth on linux real quick)
20101010 11:41:53< SpoOkyMagician> so... yum install wesnoth wesnoth-tools wesnoth-server?
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20101010 11:52:13< SpoOkyMagician> installed.
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20101010 11:57:11< CIA-88> zookeeper * r46999 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Rewrote the unit cost increase system.
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20101010 14:31:27< CIA-88> silene * r47000 /trunk/src/unit.hpp: Added accessors for unit variables.
20101010 14:31:30< CIA-88> silene * r47001 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Added Lua accessor for unit [variables] toplevel fields.
20101010 14:31:34< CIA-88> silene * r47002 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Avoided integer check since there is an automatic demotion of floating-point values.
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20101010 17:18:41< CIA-88> ivanovic * r47003 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth-sotbe/vi.po wesnoth-thot/vi.po): updated Vietnamese translation
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20101010 18:57:30< Soliton> ilor: around now. :-)
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20101010 19:16:27 * TheBuzzSaw stabs the janebot.
20101010 19:16:33< TheBuzzSaw> janebot: Jump off cliff.
20101010 19:16:34< janebot> TheBuzzSaw: I refuse to answer that.
20101010 19:18:33< Gambit> TheBuzzSaw: ?
20101010 19:22:44< TheBuzzSaw> yes, Gambit?
20101010 19:23:15< Gambit> Just wondering why you're telling bots to suicide.
20101010 19:23:22< Gambit> And attempting to murder them.
20101010 19:23:40< TheBuzzSaw> It's not murder on a piece of equipment... Nor is it suicide.
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20101010 19:24:00< TheBuzzSaw> Haven't you seen I Robot?
20101010 19:24:36< Gambit> but janebot is sentient.
20101010 19:24:38< Gambit> janebot: Right?
20101010 19:24:38< janebot> Gambit: Wrong.
20101010 19:25:19< Gambit> TheBuzzSaw: But this is turning into a better discussion for ##Gambot than #wesnoth-dev
20101010 19:25:56< TheBuzzSaw> Then why is your jane bot even here?
20101010 19:28:20< Gambit> To report posts in Developer Discussion
20101010 19:29:17< Gambit> Which doubles as an IRC report of forum-wide global announcements
20101010 19:30:00< TheBuzzSaw> I still don't like her. :]
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20101010 19:37:46 * TheBuzzSaw is still slaving away at the potential OpenGL engine for Wesnoth.
20101010 19:38:27< Sirp> TheBuzzSaw: cool. That would be awesome to have. :)
20101010 19:38:34< Sirp> TheBuzzSaw: are you using OpenGL ES ?
20101010 19:38:50< TheBuzzSaw> OpenGL 3.3
20101010 19:39:01< TheBuzzSaw> strong ties to ES 2.0
20101010 19:42:24< TheBuzzSaw> Why do you ask?
20101010 19:42:27< TheBuzzSaw> Sirp
20101010 19:43:53< Sirp> TheBuzzSaw: well I think ES is good for mobile devices, and in my experience works better on low end machines in any case.
20101010 19:44:32< TheBuzzSaw> You cannot run actual ES on a desktop. There are only ES wrappers. ES is made specifically for mobile devices.
20101010 19:44:50< TheBuzzSaw> Regardless, it'll all work out. 3.3 and ES 2.0 have a lot in common to where porting is no big deal.
20101010 19:45:04< Espreon> 3.3? Oh noez...
20101010 19:45:40< TheBuzzSaw> Espreon: 3.3 is phantastic
20101010 19:53:21< shadowmaster> TheBuzzSaw: you know alink is already working on OpenGL support in the ogl branch, right?
20101010 19:54:29< TheBuzzSaw> shadowmaster: I'm not working on Wesnoth code. I'm working on a new toolkit (more at the SDL level).
20101010 19:54:38< shadowmaster> ah
20101010 19:56:31< Sirp> TheBuzzSaw: yeah I mean if you limit yourself to OpenGL ES features in my experience it works well.
20101010 19:56:47< Sirp> TheBuzzSaw: how much do you hae done on it so far?
20101010 19:57:04< TheBuzzSaw> Sirp: Quite a bit, but it has a long way to go. Wanna see it?
20101010 19:57:58< Sirp> TheBuzzSaw: sure.... :)
20101010 19:58:07< TheBuzzSaw> You in Windows or Linux?
20101010 19:59:35< Sirp> Linux.
20101010 20:00:17< TheBuzzSaw> perfect... Is it 3.3 enabled, Sirp?
20101010 20:02:37< shadowmaster> ...
20101010 20:03:01< shadowmaster> just FYI, Mesa barely has OpenGL 2.1 support for most DRI/DRI2 drivers.
20101010 20:03:22< shadowmaster> about OpenGL ES all I know is that there are 1.5 and 2.0 overlay libs
20101010 20:03:49< TheBuzzSaw> shadowmaster: I use Linux full time. I have 3.3 support.
20101010 20:03:58< shadowmaster> I said Mesa.
20101010 20:04:12< TheBuzzSaw> I am aware of what mesa can do. Why do you think I asked what Sirp is running?
20101010 20:04:32< shadowmaster> because everyone runs Linux with free drivers, of course </sarcasm>
20101010 20:06:05< TheBuzzSaw> Sirp, do you have an nvidia card?
20101010 20:06:06< shadowmaster> I am aware that Mesa swrast can do much more than some of the DRI/DRI2 drivers since it's easier to implement code for the software rasterizer than get specifications from the hardware manufacturers to develop the components of a hardware-accelerated Mesa stack, including the kernel side code
20101010 20:06:24< shadowmaster> nouveau being one of the poster boys nowadays (reverse engineering and all)
20101010 20:06:52< TheBuzzSaw> shadowmaster: Why are you lecturing on this topic? I didn't even speak to you...
20101010 20:07:21< CIA-88> alink * r47005 /branches/ogl/src/ (video.cpp video.hpp): 
20101010 20:07:21< CIA-88> Improve FBO code
20101010 20:07:21< CIA-88> Move it into a class and simplify its error handling
20101010 20:07:32< shadowmaster> I'm just pointing out that not all Linux machines will have the same level of support even with the latest drivers at a particular point in time
20101010 20:08:10< CIA-88> alink * r47006 /branches/ogl/src/video.cpp: Skip all the rectangle update calculations since we use update_all for now.
20101010 20:08:15< CIA-88> alink * r47007 /branches/ogl/src/video.cpp: 
20101010 20:08:15< CIA-88> More portable usage of functions from OpenGL extensions.
20101010 20:08:15< CIA-88> Hopefully will help Windows and others still using OpenGL 1.1 headers.
20101010 20:08:17< CIA-88> alink * r47008 /branches/ogl/src/ (sdl_utils.cpp video.cpp): 
20101010 20:08:17< CIA-88> Also include glext.h to complement OpenGL 1.1 headers.
20101010 20:08:17< CIA-88> Possibly need to download a recent version from opengl.org
20101010 20:09:18< Espreon> do the right thing™....
20101010 20:09:41< alink> loonycyborg: ^ ready, I hope it fix the problem
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20101010 20:30:13< loonycyborg> alink: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/1izUpf86
20101010 20:32:01< alink> ok, thanks, are you using a recent glext.h ?
20101010 20:32:16< alink> they seems declared in  http://www.opengl.org/registry/api/glext.h
20101010 20:32:46< loonycyborg> I use whatever mingw has.
20101010 20:35:42< loonycyborg> Is it a good idea to just commit it? :P
20101010 20:35:52< alink> hmm I think you should have it  http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Getting_started#OpenGL_2.0.2B_and_extensions
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20101010 20:36:47< alink> google "glext.h mingw" seems to reommend getting the latest glext.h 
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20101010 20:39:29< alink> "Microsoft will never update gl.h and opengl32.lib that comes with their compiler. It hasn't been updated since 1995"   bhooo Microsoft
20101010 20:40:00< loonycyborg> I say just commit that glext.h
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20101010 20:40:39< alink> I don't think it's our policy
20101010 20:41:04< GNUtoo|laptop> hi, I'm a bit off topic but I've a bug that made it also in wesnoth, and I'd like to ask what libraries are used to display the bottom-left info bar in wesnoth here: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/ed08dba6b6953655225b85ba29df3631.png
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20101010 20:41:14< loonycyborg> I think we should require all users that compile on windows to manually update their headers.
20101010 20:41:19< loonycyborg> *shouldn't
20101010 20:41:33< GNUtoo|laptop> basically I want to know what font-system is used
20101010 20:42:06< alink> OtOH if they compile OpenGL apps they probably need it anyway. I see it as a normal dev header
20101010 20:43:04< alink> loonycyborg: we can try detecting its version it at configure time if it's better?
20101010 20:43:14< alink> s/it/
20101010 20:44:13< alink> and do the usual "require X>1.3 lib/header" warning
20101010 20:44:54< loonycyborg> I really don't see any drawbacks in committing the file.
20101010 20:44:57< TheBuzzSaw> What headers are you referring to?
20101010 20:46:01< TheBuzzSaw> alink: What headers?
20101010 20:46:04< alink> loonycyborg: but how is it different from committing a SDL header ?
20101010 20:46:15< alink> TheBuzzSaw: glext.h
20101010 20:46:39< TheBuzzSaw> alink: I recommend using GLee.
20101010 20:46:44< loonycyborg> iirc once SDL_ttf was included fully, not just headers :P
20101010 20:47:11< loonycyborg> And Ogre rendering engine includes full source of GLEW
20101010 20:47:27< TheBuzzSaw> In my team's SDL projects, it's easiest to just include GLee.c and GLee.h in the actual project. It takes care of everything OpenGL-related.
20101010 20:47:38< alink> loonycyborg: I think distribution maintainer didn't like that ;)
20101010 20:48:11< TheBuzzSaw> GLEW's license openly allows complete inclusion
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20101010 20:48:18< TheBuzzSaw> It just mandates that you don't alter the files
20101010 20:48:21< loonycyborg> Due to nature of glext.h I don't think that distribution maintainer won't like it.
20101010 20:49:23< loonycyborg> Anyway, even with correct header I get 'undefined reference to `_glFramebufferTexture2DEXT@20''
20101010 20:49:29< alink> loonycyborg: btw adding it intrunk fix bulding
20101010 20:49:35< TheBuzzSaw> I'd strongly recommend GLee or GLEW over glext.h
20101010 20:50:14< alink> loonycyborg: ah i forgot one sorry, fixing it
20101010 20:50:14< TheBuzzSaw> GLee is best because it maxes out at 3.0, and SDL runs at 2.1 anyway
20101010 20:50:18< TheBuzzSaw> GLEW is unnecessary.
20101010 20:50:28< TheBuzzSaw> GLee is also easier to integrate.
20101010 20:51:38< CIA-88> alink * r47009 /branches/ogl/src/video.cpp: Always use the new extension function handler
20101010 20:51:41< TheBuzzSaw> GLEW requires initialization among other things. That's not a terrible thing, but it's just nice the GLee works right from the beginning.
20101010 20:52:09< alink> TheBuzzSaw: we first try not adding too much new dependencies, and don't plan to use many extensions anyway
20101010 20:53:08< TheBuzzSaw> alink: I know, but it does more than just enable extensions. It does a great job of centralizing the core API itself. If you don't need much from OpenGL, just use SDL_opengl.h instead.
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20101010 20:53:47< alink> loonycyborg: ^fixed, hopefully that was the only one missing
20101010 20:53:49< loonycyborg> alink: Oops! I forgot to mention that there was _glGenFramebuffersEXT@8 too
20101010 20:53:57< alink> :-(
20101010 20:56:55< CIA-88> alink * r47010 /branches/ogl/src/video.cpp: Always use the new extension function handler
20101010 20:56:57< TheBuzzSaw> GLee is your father...
20101010 20:57:22< alink> ^done, sorry about that, I am sure that already changed that, I must have failed a rename or something
20101010 20:58:06< TheBuzzSaw> alink: Outta curiosity, are you targeting any extensions at all? Like, what are you using outside the core API?
20101010 20:59:02< loonycyborg> alink: It compiles and works in wine now.
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20101010 20:59:22< alink> I wanted to avoid it, but currently using FBO for my SDL emulator. Initally was not needed, but seems better for some hardware. May be not needed later
20101010 20:59:40< alink> loonycyborg: cool thanks
20101010 20:59:45< shadowmaster> alink: feel free to poke me whenever you need some more testing
20101010 20:59:51< TheBuzzSaw> alink: Ah, so you're essentially sandboxing the existing rendering mechanism?
20101010 21:00:16< alink> shadowmaster: no real new stuff now, just build change.
20101010 21:01:33< alink> TheBuzzSaw: I translate all SDL call into bad OGL calls, and will progressively optimize each one in better OGL
20101010 21:01:35< loonycyborg> alink: I've copied the latest glext.h to src/GL/glext.h and I'd prefer to commit it :P
20101010 21:01:54< TheBuzzSaw> alink: Ah, that's awesome. Makes sense.
20101010 21:02:44< alink> loonycyborg: well, I am not the best one to comment about this. And I suppose that we can do what we want in the ogl branch for now, since nobody will release it soon
20101010 21:03:30< loonycyborg> So you don't mind if I commit it for now?
20101010 21:03:48< alink> TheBuzzSaw: yeah it worked well, just need to deal with all the old/open drivers and hardware specific problems
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20101010 21:04:19< alink> loonycyborg: no I never mind it, just thought that it was not needed and maybe not wanted by some people ;)
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20101010 21:06:03< loonycyborg> In fact it's possible to just copy only actually needed prototypes/defines.
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20101010 21:06:56< alink> loonycyborg: well I may need new functions or constants at some points
20101010 21:07:33< alink> for example I recently started to use GL_MAX_COLOR_ATTACHMENTS for error checking
20101010 21:26:30< stikonas> is there any reason why there are many files with windows line endings in utils/java?
20101010 21:27:12< loonycyborg> Yes. Nobody run dos2unix on them yet :P
20101010 21:27:16< stikonas> dos2unix changes http://pastebin.ca/1958824
20101010 21:28:37< CIA-88> loonycyborg * r47011 /branches/ogl/src/GL/ (. glext.h): 
20101010 21:28:37< CIA-88> Add latest GL/glext.h from opengl registry.
20101010 21:28:37< CIA-88> It's needed to compile on windows since official opengl
20101010 21:28:37< CIA-88> headers are too outdated.
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20101010 21:40:15< Ivanovic> re
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20101010 21:44:50< Ivanovic> GNUtoo|laptop: as before i don't understand your question about the font system
20101010 21:45:02< GNUtoo|laptop> Ivanovic, hi
20101010 21:45:03< Ivanovic> the stuff rendered there is rendered like *every* other text ingame, too
20101010 21:45:10< GNUtoo|laptop> ok
20101010 21:45:20< GNUtoo|laptop> in the bottom bar fonts are too amsll
20101010 21:45:22< Ivanovic> you mean the version number, that is hidden behind the tip of the day box, right?
20101010 21:45:25< GNUtoo|laptop> so I wonder what renders them
20101010 21:45:39< Ivanovic> the size for this stuff is most likely hardcoded
20101010 21:45:40< GNUtoo|laptop> I mean that:
20101010 21:45:58< GNUtoo|laptop> you see help,previous,next?
20101010 21:46:11< GNUtoo|laptop> on top of that there is some lines
20101010 21:46:14< Ivanovic> you should take a screenshot, take gimp and (by hand, to make it obvious!) create a big, fat, red cirle around it
20101010 21:46:15< GNUtoo|laptop> the height seem 1px
20101010 21:46:23< GNUtoo|laptop> ok
20101010 21:46:54< Ivanovic> ah, okay, you mean the tip of the day tooltip
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20101010 21:47:01< Ivanovic> let me guess: you are using tinygui
20101010 21:47:06< GNUtoo|laptop> yes
20101010 21:47:07< GNUtoo|laptop> no
20101010 21:47:13< GNUtoo|laptop> it's not wesnoth specific
20101010 21:47:18< GNUtoo|laptop> I'm using smallgui
20101010 21:47:24< Ivanovic> uhm, okay
20101010 21:47:27< GNUtoo|laptop> I've that in most of my gtk apps too
20101010 21:47:45< Ivanovic> since this is 1.8.x it is most likely either sdl-ttf or pangocairo
20101010 21:47:48< zookeeper> boucman, i'm making a terrain animation which i want to not loop, so i'm giving the last frame a duration of 999999...what's the highest value i can use there?
20101010 21:47:56< GNUtoo|laptop> ok I'm using 1.8.4
20101010 21:47:57< Ivanovic> though i think the tooltip was already switched to pangocairo in 1.8.x
20101010 21:48:23< boucman> no idea, I would have to go code-diving... what type of terrain is that ?
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20101010 21:49:21< zookeeper> boucman, not really a terrain, just scenery, but i need to use terrain graphics to do it since it's multi-hex
20101010 21:50:25< GNUtoo|laptop> thanks a lot!!!
20101010 21:50:35< boucman> zookeeper: duration is coded internally as an int, so the max reasonabe value would be 2^16-1 I guess
20101010 21:50:36< GNUtoo|laptop> I'll look for pango,cairo and ttf
20101010 21:52:25< Ivanovic> GNUtoo|laptop: since the issue does happen in many gtk progs it is most likely pango/cairo
20101010 21:52:37< GNUtoo|laptop> ok thanks a lot
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20101010 21:59:04< Ivanovic> alink: has anything significant changed so that i should retest?
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20101010 22:07:54< CIA-88> zookeeper * r47012 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/ (17 files in 2 dirs): Added some custom graphics and a closing animation for the gate.
20101010 22:09:45< zookeeper> boucman, ^ there's still a little problem with that: the closing animation should start playing at 2_Closing_the_Gates.cfg:370, but it won't start until after the current event(s) have finished. unit standing animations play just fine during the [delay].
20101010 22:10:17< boucman> hmm, you might want to ask alink about that one...
20101010 22:10:29< zookeeper> alink, ^ ?
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20101010 22:51:48< alink> zookeeper: if it's terrain animation, are you aware that they have random starting time ?
20101010 22:52:03< alink> (so they are not all in-sync)
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20101010 22:53:40< alink> Ivanovic: no, nothing significant. Only building, and FBO errors might be a bit more verbose (I think you had one)
20101010 22:53:57< Ivanovic> yeah, had one when forcing indirect mode
20101010 22:54:12< Ivanovic> will do so tomorrow
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20101010 22:54:43< alink> also a possible small reduction of cpu when there is a lot of animations, but probably not significant too.
20101010 22:55:00< alink> I didn't check cpu usage yet, I wonder how the GPU'use helps
20101010 22:55:03< zookeeper> alink, hrhm...no, i forgot that.
20101010 22:55:31< Ivanovic> alink: cpu usage is tightly combined with the gpu driver
20101010 22:55:41< Ivanovic> yeah, the open source driver is often cpu limited
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20101010 22:55:56< alink> zookeeper: I don't see any simple workaround with current code, we might need a new key controlling that
20101010 22:56:05< Ivanovic> anyway, i am rather afk now
20101010 22:56:20< alink> Ivanovic: I mean no the GPU do a part of the work, like alpha blending
20101010 22:56:23< alink> Ivanovic: ok
20101010 22:56:55< zookeeper> alink, yeah. it's really difficult to do scenery animations like that closing gate currently.
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20101010 22:57:07< alink> zookeeper: that will be probably slow, but maybe: change terrain, delay, change terrain, delay ...   to simulate a animation ?
20101010 22:57:26< zookeeper> alink, you mean make a separate terrain for each "frame"?
20101010 22:57:46< alink> yeah, but right, it's a crazy idea, forget it :)
20101010 22:57:48< zookeeper> i know that's possible but i really didn't want to do it that way since it's so messy
20101010 22:58:21< alink> but note that it's a simple way to end animation loop
20101010 22:59:54< CIA-88> zookeeper * r47013 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/2_Closing_the_Gates.cfg: Rewrote how the glyphs work and made them require a unit to stand on them to keep them activated.
20101010 22:59:55< alink> anyway, so, some random_start_time=no  (default=yes) in terrain rule, or something done per hex in scenario cfg ?
20101010 23:00:22< zookeeper> random_start_time= sounds like a good idea in any case
20101010 23:01:33< alink> yes, that's seems KISS
20101010 23:04:32< zookeeper> alink, anyway, the animation always starts at the same moment (when the events have finished) for me; is that because i'm using the same beginning-of-scenario save to test so it uses a same random seed every time?
20101010 23:05:15< alink> same random_seed, it uses location and hash image's name
20101010 23:05:50< alink> but there is currently a possible bug there (see windmill glitch) where scrolling may affect it
20101010 23:06:39< alink> that is the time where it becomes visible (when scrolling) incorrectly affect it
20101010 23:08:01< alink> rebuilding the map could also reset things always at the same time (but still using random seed)
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20101010 23:08:37< alink> saving should not have any link
20101010 23:08:48< zookeeper> uh, ok. how complicated ;)
20101010 23:09:32< alink> well, when the bug will be fixed that should be simpler
20101010 23:11:52< alink> boucman: I see no check for duration sign, does negative duration has a meaning ?
20101010 23:12:31< boucman> hmm, I guess not, but I wouldn't bet on it without deeper inspection, animation.i is tricky
20101010 23:14:36< alink> zookeeper: that probably doesn't work but the random time shift is  rand() % animation.duration(). If you create a animation having duration 1 (by using a bug negative duration to the last frame), you will kill the random shift
20101010 23:14:49< alink> s/bug/big
20101010 23:17:11< alink> boucman: btw I think max int is 2^31-1 in c++
20101010 23:17:43< boucman> isn't an int on 32 bit, so -2^16..2^16-1 ?
20101010 23:18:16< alink> unsigned is 2^32  , sign only take 1 bit 
20101010 23:18:46< boucman> oh, yes, silly me
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