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20101011 00:01:06< CIA-88> zookeeper * r47014 /trunk/data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/2_Closing_the_Gates.cfg: General tweaking and cleanup.
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20101011 00:01:49< gabba> bonjour
20101011 00:03:50< Espreon> Ic grete þe.
20101011 00:05:20< Aethaeryn> και
20101011 00:05:27< SpoOkyMagician> okay. let's see if anyone can help me here. (got wesnoth trunk) I have installed a bunch of the dependencies thusfar (mostly thanks to two other devs) However, while trying to compile with scons, I am getting: Checking for Boost thread library... no. I did however install boost and boost-devel. Any helpful suggestions?
20101011 00:06:07< SpoOkyMagician> oh and I have a 64 bit OS
20101011 00:06:10< SpoOkyMagician> fedora 13
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20101011 00:06:18< Espreon> Aethaeryn: and what?
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20101011 00:08:46< un214> too old of boost?
20101011 00:08:47< gabba> Hi Espreon
20101011 00:09:14< SpoOkyMagician> (i just installed it. I am assuming I have the most recent version)
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20101011 00:10:27< SpoOkyMagician> 1.41.0-9.fc13
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20101011 00:10:57< gabba> SpoOkyMagician: try installing libboost-thread? Maybe it doesn't install by default.
20101011 00:11:10< SpoOkyMagician> i believe i tried that
20101011 00:11:16< SpoOkyMagician> (but just to be sure...)
20101011 00:11:57< gabba> libboost-thread-dev to be precise
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20101011 00:12:19< SpoOkyMagician> Error: No matching Packages to list
20101011 00:12:24< SpoOkyMagician> what now?
20101011 00:12:38< SpoOkyMagician> google?
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20101011 00:12:59< gabba> Try searching in your graphical package manager for "boost thread" and see what comes up?
20101011 00:13:07< SpoOkyMagician> ok
20101011 00:13:23< gabba> I'm under Ubuntu Lucid 64 bits btw
20101011 00:13:36< gabba> So the package names will probably differ
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20101011 00:16:22< gabba> find / -name libboost* 2>/dev/null | grep thread
20101011 00:16:34< gabba> SpoOkyMagician: try this in the command line as well ^
20101011 00:16:50< SpoOkyMagician> shown some results
20101011 00:17:07< SpoOkyMagician> so this means its installed and working?
20101011 00:17:14< SpoOkyMagician> (or should be?)
20101011 00:17:35< gabba> well, it depends if the results you saw were shown as active/installed or not
20101011 00:18:00< gabba> (you're talking about the results in the package manager, right?)
20101011 00:18:07< SpoOkyMagician> oops
20101011 00:18:19< SpoOkyMagician> (with the find)
20101011 00:18:32< gabba> For the find command above you can run it and paste the output to pastebin, and I'll look through
20101011 00:18:37< SpoOkyMagician> ill pastebin it
20101011 00:18:40< gabba> k
20101011 00:19:12< SpoOkyMagician> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/1VVkvuCb
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20101011 00:20:41< gabba> Hmm, looks like its installed
20101011 00:20:57< gabba> dunno why it's suffixed with -mt though
20101011 00:21:18< SpoOkyMagician> it was mentioned that i had to use a argument since it was a 64 bit os
20101011 00:21:30< SpoOkyMagician> but that didn't help much at the time
20101011 00:21:38< SpoOkyMagician> (when compiling)
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20101011 00:22:16< gabba> as a comparison: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/S98Ti1D1
20101011 00:22:42< SpoOkyMagician> well this should help some
20101011 00:23:17< SpoOkyMagician> but, not sure on how to "get to that"
20101011 00:23:40< gabba> Neither me... the 1.38 version could be a leftover from my upgrade, too
20101011 00:23:43< SpoOkyMagician> (i only know minimal linux)
20101011 00:24:13< gabba> You could try making symlinks, but I'd advise against it
20101011 00:24:20< gabba> Better find the real problem
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20101011 00:24:27< SpoOkyMagician> right
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20101011 00:25:40< gabba> Well, I'm out of ideas for now. All I can say is, try installing all the boost thread packages you find (make a list so you can remove them later)
20101011 00:26:02< SpoOkyMagician> i believe i tried yum install boost* alreadt
20101011 00:26:06< SpoOkyMagician> already *
20101011 00:26:10< gabba> And then you can try compiling wesnoth again, and run that search above again to see what difference it made
20101011 00:26:13< gabba> ah...
20101011 00:26:42< gabba> that could actually be part of the problem if some packages are mutually exclusive
20101011 00:28:15< loonycyborg> SpoOkyMagician: Pass boost_suffix=-mt
20101011 00:28:25< CIA-88> ivanovic * r47015 /trunk/po/wesnoth-units/gl.po: updated Galician translation
20101011 00:28:43< SpoOkyMagician> write that command exactly?
20101011 00:28:47< SpoOkyMagician> or what
20101011 00:29:22< gabba> loonycyborg: ah see, I didn't know you could do that
20101011 00:29:24< loonycyborg> 'boost_suffix=-mt'
20101011 00:29:31< loonycyborg> 'scon boost_suffix=-mt'
20101011 00:29:34< loonycyborg> 'scons boost_suffix=-mt'
20101011 00:29:50< Ivanovic> alink: just tested with latest git from ogl branch, this is the error message i get using LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 wesnoth-gl --max-fps 1000 --fps
20101011 00:30:05< SpoOkyMagician> the second command didnt work
20101011 00:30:12< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/HN779eaf
20101011 00:30:35< SpoOkyMagician> bash: scon: command not found
20101011 00:30:44< SpoOkyMagician> oh
20101011 00:31:15< SpoOkyMagician> seems to be working now
20101011 00:31:51< SpoOkyMagician> i also need to compile 1.8.5 later. same deal?
20101011 00:32:10< loonycyborg> No. It doesn't require boost_thread yet.
20101011 00:32:25< SpoOkyMagician> so what would i write to compile that?
20101011 00:32:28< SpoOkyMagician> 1.8.5
20101011 00:32:43< SpoOkyMagician> (using scons)
20101011 00:33:22< gabba> Just 'scons' probably
20101011 00:33:22< Ivanovic> alink: and i found a way to get some glitches: the fps counter does create glitches when scrolling over labels (having the labels and the counter overlap)
20101011 00:33:31< loonycyborg> Yes.
20101011 00:33:35< SpoOkyMagician> ok
20101011 00:33:48< SpoOkyMagician> (thats what i thought. just wanted to be sure)
20101011 00:33:53< SpoOkyMagician> thanks for the assistance
20101011 00:34:05< Ivanovic> ah, no, even worse: the labels err when they are partly out of the visible section
20101011 00:34:10 * SpoOkyMagician waits for it to compile
20101011 00:34:38< SpoOkyMagician> how long does compiling take?
20101011 00:34:43< SpoOkyMagician> roughly
20101011 00:35:26< Ivanovic> alink: especially glitchy with a halo partly displayed (like eg the darken halo in the test scenario)
20101011 00:35:26< loonycyborg> That heavily depends on cpu.
20101011 00:35:53< SpoOkyMagician> okay. ill just do something else in the meantime
20101011 00:36:33< Ivanovic> hmm, interesting, only happens with the halo on the left screen edge
20101011 00:36:42< Ivanovic> and looks interesting with the halo at the buttom edge
20101011 00:36:50< Ivanovic> perfectly normal when the halo is at the right
20101011 00:37:09< Ivanovic> (or at the top edge)
20101011 00:38:38< Ivanovic> okay, it is driver specific, only happens with r600c, not with r600g
20101011 00:41:35< gabba> loonycyborg: does scons automatically start multiple threads for multiple CPUs? With cmake I use "make -j 5".
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20101011 00:41:57< loonycyborg> gabba: It takes -j switch too.
20101011 00:42:36< gabba> ah, so SpoOkyMagician should probably use scons -j 5 if he has a quad core
20101011 00:42:56< SpoOkyMagician> i got dual
20101011 00:42:57< gabba> and 4 Gigs of RAM
20101011 00:42:58< SpoOkyMagician> 2
20101011 00:43:15< gabba> Ok, so 'scons -j 3' and see if it works
20101011 00:43:18< SpoOkyMagician> AFAIK anyway
20101011 00:43:30< gabba> You can stop the current build with ctrl+c
20101011 00:43:32< SpoOkyMagician> er, i already started it... you want me to stop it?
20101011 00:43:41 * SpoOkyMagician sighs
20101011 00:43:47< gabba> I won't start over
20101011 00:43:56< SpoOkyMagician> oh ok
20101011 00:44:30< SpoOkyMagician> there
20101011 00:44:34< gabba> It's smart enough to detect what's already done, most of the time
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20101011 00:44:58< un214> I compile from a ramdrive
20101011 00:47:23< shadowmaster> so?
20101011 00:48:26< SpoOkyMagician> its done. so ./wesnoth >
20101011 00:48:28< SpoOkyMagician> ? *
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20101011 00:50:21< SpoOkyMagician> ill go ahead and try compiling 1.8.5 real quick
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20101011 01:00:08< janebot> Wesnoth Forum | shadowmaster posted in Developers' Discussions • [Policy] Transitional Policy on Forum Signatures on 10-10-2010 at 22:52:00 URL: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=31871&p=460563#p460563
20101011 01:00:53< shadowmaster> oh gods, look, it's an alliterative name!
20101011 01:01:03 * shadowmaster points at the forum name
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20101011 03:59:08< CIA-88> gabba * r47016 /trunk/src/whiteboard/side_actions.hpp: Whiteboard/side_actions: expose size() function from the underlying structure.
20101011 03:59:20< CIA-88> gabba * r47017 /trunk/src/whiteboard/side_actions.cpp: Whiteboard/side_actions: test to try and diagnose a problem under msvc 9.
20101011 03:59:31< CIA-88> gabba * r47018 /trunk/src/whiteboard/move.cpp: Whiteboard/move: rename a variable, and extra trace to try and detect a bug under msvc 9.
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20101011 07:53:02< CIA-88> espreon * r47019 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/utils/macros.cfg: Fix macro name.
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20101011 08:11:23< shadowmaster> hmm, zsh is nice.
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20101011 09:42:33< Ivanovic> moin
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20101011 10:37:33< CIA-88> ai0867 * r47020 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wmlparser2.py: Remove trailing commas from JSON lists, they are illegal
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20101011 11:05:23< CIA-88> zookeeper * r47021 /trunk/data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/03_Towards_Mountains_of_Haag.cfg: Colour-shifted Gr?\195?\188?\195?\188 to have a somewhat redder skin tone.
20101011 11:13:32< zookeeper> nice, half of the troll hero's melee directions have been broken ever since the new sprites were committed over a year ago.
20101011 11:13:42 * zookeeper headdesks
20101011 11:17:20< Ivanovic> alink: btw cpu load is really decent over here with the open source drivers
20101011 11:17:45< Ivanovic> one of my cores basically does not go above 60% load and stays clocked down to 800MHz most of the time
20101011 11:17:55< Ivanovic> (the other levels would be 1500, 2200 and 2800)
20101011 11:18:27< Ivanovic> (this is when just scrolling over the map in 1024x768
20101011 11:18:55< Ivanovic> and no difference between doing so in the first scenario of two brothers or isle of the damned (yeah, that is my worst case test scenario))
20101011 11:20:19< Ivanovic> ah, okay, found a new worst case scenario: starting dead water
20101011 11:20:44< Ivanovic> 70% load on one core and the cpu clocks up to 1500
20101011 11:21:30< Ivanovic> fps are usually at about 30fps, maybe a little below
20101011 11:25:19< Ivanovic> now i am about to rebuild on my laptop with intel graphics to test if the issues are fixed
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20101011 12:54:19< Ivanovic> alink: still the same problem with the center not redrawing correctly on my intel laptop
20101011 12:55:05< Ivanovic> alink: that is scrollspeed ain't too good when in fullscreen at 1400x1050 where everything is drawn correctly once i come into an area with animated water, while scrolling over normal terrain with villages and units speed is really okay though
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20101011 13:36:33< CIA-88> zookeeper * r47022 /trunk/data/core/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Added a northwards melee animation for the Troll Hero and fixed bugs in the existing ones.
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20101011 13:58:51< zookeeper> thespaceinvader, the troll hero's melee anims had apparently always been pretty broken, so i added a northwards anim too and fixed the timings
20101011 13:59:07< thespaceinvader> cool, thanks zookeeper
20101011 13:59:34< thespaceinvader> one of these days I must dredge the Great Troll up from the bottom of my list and animate it
20101011 14:00:12< timotei> do we use xml in something regarding wesnoth?
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20101011 14:20:07< CIA-88> thespaceinvader * r47023 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add new alternate Swordsman portrait by LordBob. Update changelogs, portrait credits.
20101011 14:24:47< CIA-88> timotei * r47024 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth/ (plugin.xml src/org/wesnoth/product/ActionWiper.java): 
20101011 14:24:47< CIA-88> eclipse plugin: now I'm pissed. That run menu still
20101011 14:24:47< CIA-88> appears there. Hope I'll destroy it eventually
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20101011 14:27:14< CIA-88> thespaceinvader * r47025 /trunk/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Add and wire new Spearman standing animation by Atz. Update changelogs.
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20101011 14:31:59< thespaceinvader> sorry, that last one is by Cloud, not doofus-01
20101011 14:37:47< AI0867> timotei: wmlparser2 (among other tools) can output in an XMLey format, some IDEs use xml-formatted files, but the game itself doesn't
20101011 14:54:21< Ivanovic> timotei: xml is an intermediate step in creating the (translated) html manuals
20101011 14:54:35< Ivanovic> but ingame there is no use of any xml stuff
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20101011 20:13:46< mordante> servus
20101011 20:14:37< mordante> Ivanovic, could you do a po4a update? Then I can use that as baseline to test some changes
20101011 20:14:43< Ivanovic> sure
20101011 20:15:19< mordante> the manual seems to work and I can update the .html files parallel but have some problems with the po files
20101011 20:15:36< Ivanovic> huh?
20101011 20:15:37-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 161 bugs, 298 feature requests, 15 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20101011 20:16:03< mordante> po4a doesn't seem to work parallel :-(
20101011 20:16:23< Ivanovic> the manpages are done in no time on my systems anyway
20101011 20:16:32< Ivanovic> the manual on the other hand is a "little" more fat
20101011 20:16:52< mordante> I only looked at the manual at the moment
20101011 20:19:52< mordante> alink starting ogl ends with an error and the termination of Wesnoth http://paste.debian.net/95692/
20101011 20:27:05< mordante> boucman, around?
20101011 20:27:10< boucman> yes
20101011 20:28:11< mordante> boucman, regarding patch 1952, I'm still not convinced it's a good idea
20101011 20:28:21< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen crab_
20101011 20:28:22< wesbot> Ivanovic: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 3d 8h ago.  3d 7h ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
20101011 20:28:24< CIA-88> ivanovic * r47027 /trunk/doc/manual/ (19 files): "make update-po4a" upon mordantes request
20101011 20:28:26< mordante> especially since the speedup claims still seem odd to me
20101011 20:28:42< boucman> wesbot: patch 1952
20101011 20:28:42< wesbot> Patch #1952  Assigned to: Mark de Wever <mordante>  Status: In Progress  Priority: 5 - Normal
20101011 20:28:44< mordante> the code between 1.8 and 1.9 hasn't changed in that area
20101011 20:28:45< wesbot> Summary: improved rendering algorithm which speeds up drawing_buffer_add and drawing_buffer_commit
20101011 20:28:48< wesbot> Original submission: Speed up the rendering algorithm by using one list of tbl
20101011 20:28:48< Ivanovic> crab_: please make sure to send noy the recipe for your flight ticket ASAP
20101011 20:28:51< wesbot> it objects instead of a map of a map of a map of vectors. The correct order for 
20101011 20:28:54< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/patch/?1952
20101011 20:28:57< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/patch/download.php?file_id=10328
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20101011 20:29:09< Ivanovic> crab_: since he also has to handle the money overall and getting a refund for the 3rd attendee
20101011 20:30:24< boucman> mordante: well, I can't help much in that area, if you doubt it, you can go back and forth with OP or close it as won't do... I personally won't mind
20101011 20:31:20< mordante> boucman, the problem is you committed the code
20101011 20:31:34< boucman> :P
20101011 20:31:37< mordante> and I don't have the time to profile the code
20101011 20:31:53< mordante> I wanted to do it the last weekends, but too much came in between :-(
20101011 20:32:23< boucman> mordante: well we can leave it in if it does no harm or revert it, again I don't consider that sort of stuff personally...
20101011 20:32:35< boucman> vir hasn't been around for some time either afaik
20101011 20:35:14< mordante> nope he didn't
20101011 20:37:37< mordante> I'll think about it, but if the speedup it's that great I like the old routine better since it was clearer how the code worked
20101011 20:38:06< mordante> and that piece of code is tricky, we spend quite a while at the FOSDEM to get it right
20101011 20:38:21< mordante> thanks Ivanovic 
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20101011 21:11:16< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20101011 21:19:37< timo_> hi all
20101011 21:19:37< timo_> hmm
20101011 21:19:55< timo_> I presume it's a know issue. but compiled the branches/ogl 
20101011 21:20:00< timo_> and I got error
20101011 21:20:07< timo_> Ivanovic: did you have something like this, too?: GPU: Mesa DRI R600 (RV710 9553) 20090101  TCL DRI2 by Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 20101011 15:18:30 error display: GL_FRAMEBUFFER_INCOMPLETE_ATTACHMENT 20101011 15:18:30 error display: Can't setup Frame Buffer Object.
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20101011 21:34:35< mordante> I'm off night
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