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20101019 00:25:53< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: you could use wml_actions.message to debug in prestart, that works
20101019 00:26:12< anonymissimus> you need to enter a table with speaker=narrator etc however
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20101019 00:55:06< CIA-105> eleazar * r47109 /trunk/data/core/terrain.cfg: giving proper editor names to most terrains.
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20101019 00:59:06< CIA-105> anonymissimus * r47110 /trunk/projectfiles/CodeBlocks/wesnoth.cbp: Re-added serialization/string_utils.cpp and .hpp to CodeBlocks project file (see loony's previous commit, sry...)
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20101019 01:58:55< shadowmaster> what's supposed to be the difference between natural cave walls and "earthy" natural cave walls, in terms of definition?
20101019 01:59:13< shadowmaster> I'm not completely sure I understand the implications of the "earthy" part
20101019 02:00:02< shadowmaster> same for cave floor and chasm, actually
20101019 02:00:30< shadowmaster> eleazzaar: ^^
20101019 02:00:46< eleazzaar> it's a different color
20101019 02:01:22< eleazzaar> also when i have a chance to work on it more "earthy" will look more like dirt
20101019 02:01:44< shadowmaster> so, no practical difference for map designers, other than that they have more choices for underground terrains?
20101019 02:01:52< eleazzaar> exactly
20101019 02:02:24< eleazzaar> earthy chasm often looks better in outdoors maps too
20101019 02:03:33< shadowmaster> yeah. that's nice. :)
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20101019 03:47:57< Gambit> Hmm I just ran wesnothd.pl from utils and attempted to connect to localhost and wesnoth (the client) crashed :(
20101019 03:48:12< Gambit> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::iostreams::gzip_error'
20101019 03:48:12< Gambit>   what():  gzip error
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20101019 09:18:02< Soliton> wesnothd.pl is far outdated. it probably doesn't do gzip compression.
20101019 09:24:32< Soliton> i suppose wesnoth could show a nicer error message though.
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20101019 10:42:20< Ivanovic> moin
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20101019 11:11:04< Crab_> hi
20101019 11:15:53< zookeeper> TRoW doesn't start...but the last time it was touched (by me) was two weeks ago, not counting an optipng run.
20101019 11:15:58< zookeeper> hrhm...
20101019 11:20:23< CIA-105> zookeeper * r47111 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/scenarios/19_The_Vanguard.cfg: Fixed a WML error.
20101019 11:20:26< zookeeper> i didn't bother testing after i commented out some debug lines, but of course i missed one in the middle... -.-
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20101019 12:09:57< AI0867> ancestral: that's exactly what I did. Either my algorithm is bugged, or you're using a version from before my changes
20101019 12:10:23< AI0867> does it look like this: { "theme" : [ ..., ...], "somethignelse" : .. }?
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20101019 12:40:38< Ivanovic> when running wesnoth-optipng i get some interesting messages for two files in the attic folder:
20101019 12:40:39< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/ZNvU2FEv
20101019 12:40:48< CIA-105> ivanovic * r47112 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/ (90 files in 3 dirs): 
20101019 12:40:48< CIA-105> another run of utils/wesnoth-optipng...
20101019 12:40:48< CIA-105> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20101019 12:40:48< CIA-105> Original size: 735 KiB on 90 files
20101019 12:40:48< CIA-105> Optimized size: 482 KiB
20101019 12:40:49< CIA-105> Total saving: 253 KiB = 34% decrease
20101019 12:41:22< Ivanovic> since those are stored in the attic folder, what about removing them from trunk?
20101019 12:44:20< zookeeper> removing what from trunk? desert-elvish-druid-statue.png.new? i don't see that anywhere.
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20101019 12:51:06< CIA-105> ivanovic * r47113 /trunk/ (data/core/help.cfg utils/pofix.py): 
20101019 12:51:06< CIA-105> fix an en_GB form in help
20101019 12:51:07< CIA-105> remove a conversion of en_GB->en_US from pofix.py
20101019 12:51:46< Ivanovic> zookeeper: remove the .new part and you got the "real" file
20101019 12:52:17< zookeeper> Ivanovic, yes, but where do you see those files except in the attic?
20101019 12:52:26< Ivanovic> they are only in attic
20101019 12:52:30< zookeeper> (btw, most files in the attic seem completely useless...)
20101019 12:52:40< Ivanovic> that is why i ask if we can remove those, since they are likely broken anyway
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20101019 12:52:59< zookeeper> yes. i can remove some of the clearly useless images there
20101019 12:54:40< Ivanovic> makes sense IMO
20101019 12:55:49< Ivanovic> hmmm, i think that alink will hate me when he syncs his branch with trunk the next time
20101019 12:55:54< zookeeper> actually i see very little there that has any purpose...
20101019 12:56:10< Ivanovic> some 70MB images to upload, some 20MB translation files, ...
20101019 12:56:21< Ivanovic> zookeeper: i'd say get rid of the stuff that makes no sense
20101019 12:57:13< zookeeper> unless someone has a good reason for keeping it, i'd say remove the entire attic :x
20101019 12:57:55< Ivanovic> personally i don't have one since the files can always be fetched using svn or simply getting older tarballs
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20101019 12:59:06< zookeeper> yeah... and it's currently just an assortment of a couple dozen random old images, mostly useless junk.
20101019 12:59:24< zookeeper> and a couple of unused campaign maps and some macros none of which probably even work anymore
20101019 12:59:54< CIA-105> ivanovic * r47114 /trunk/ (980 files in 25 dirs): 
20101019 12:59:54< CIA-105> pot-update
20101019 12:59:54< CIA-105> regenerated doc files
20101019 13:00:47< zookeeper> Ivanovic, i'll ask esr if he's fine with removing the whole attic when he's around
20101019 13:00:54< Ivanovic> mkay
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20101019 14:28:52< stikonas> this looks suspicious in lib textdomain: 'Castle Human Keep'. Shoudn't it be 'Human Castle Keep'?
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20101019 16:47:27< CIA-105> zookeeper * r47115 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/scenarios/22_Rise_of_Wesnoth.cfg: 
20101019 16:47:28< CIA-105> Simplified the various die events and defeat/victory condition checks by use of
20101019 16:47:28< CIA-105> [filter_condition], improved the cutscene of the last orc sailing away,
20101019 16:47:28< CIA-105> refactored the corpse and skeleton spawn code once more and removed the last
20101019 16:47:28< CIA-105> traces of a couple of related old macros.
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20101019 17:04:50< CIA-105> zookeeper * r47116 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added a little treaty icon to Aethyr in the last scenario.
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20101019 17:33:53< eleazzaar> stikonas: you are right, i went over the names a little hurriedly
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20101019 17:45:47< eleazzaar> zookeeper: i think perhaps we should get rid of  the tent village Vct replacing it's instances with Vdt, because Vct is simply the encampment keep images reused
20101019 17:46:09< eleazzaar> i'd rather have keeps graphics as unique
20101019 17:47:53< zookeeper> eleazzaar, right, but that'd leave us with no "temporary encampment"-style village, unless we'd use the desert tents for that.
20101019 17:48:12< zookeeper> wait, maybe that was what you said, checking..
20101019 17:48:18< eleazzaar> yeah
20101019 17:48:45< zookeeper> right. yeah, i guess those would work just as well, although i'd rather just switch the graphics, not the terrain itself.
20101019 17:49:42< zookeeper> the desert tent tile needs the cacti removed anyway for it to work as a non-desert camp
20101019 17:50:04< zookeeper> although they're more like two green blobs instead of cacti...
20101019 17:50:04< eleazzaar> K, i'll do that.  it's simpler :)
20101019 17:50:50< zookeeper> ok, thanks. so, you only need to replace the village/tent* tiles, although do note that there's the snowy ones too...
20101019 17:52:07< eleazzaar> the snowy one isn't used for villages
20101019 17:53:10< eleazzaar> the visual difference is minute
20101019 17:54:53< zookeeper> right
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20101019 17:55:15< eleazzaar> sneaky:  the encampment actually uses the graphics in the village subfolder
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20101019 18:18:37< CIA-105> eleazar * r47117 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/ (10 files in 2 dirs): further fixes to editor names, and switching the tent village to not look like the encampment village.
20101019 18:23:16< CIA-105> eleazar * r47118 /trunk/data/core/ (terrain-graphics.cfg terrain.cfg): further fixes to editor names, and switching the tent village to not look like the encampment village. Part 2. Done.
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20101019 23:21:53< CIA-105> espreon * r47121 /trunk/data/core/terrain.cfg: Made the deprecated volcano's name string untranslatable.
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