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20101021 00:10:03< anonymissimus> maybe someone takes a look at http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=31531&p=462135#p462135 ? That guy did a lot to provide some bt info, but it failed apparently
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20101021 02:04:04< CIA-105> eleazar * r47127 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/sand/ (52 files): remove abandoned prototype graphics for sand-to-water transitions.
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20101021 02:16:01< CIA-105> eleazar * r47128 /trunk/data/core/ (25 files in 3 dirs): removal of more obsolete terrain leftovers.
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20101021 02:27:39< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47129 /branches/umcmg/: Create branch umcmg
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20101021 02:33:00< shadowmaster> sigh. I did something wrong locally
20101021 02:33:12< shadowmaster> shouldn't have created the local branch first I guess
20101021 02:34:12< shadowmaster> now I need to figure out how to make svn-dcommit push to the correct remote instead of trunk
20101021 02:35:31< shadowmaster> solved with git checkout remotes/umcg ; git checkout -b umcmg
20101021 02:36:32< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47130 /branches/umcmg/src/addon/blah: test commit
20101021 02:38:27< ancestral> shadowmaster: More curious than necessary, does an uncompressed, unarchived copy of trunk or a particular release live on wesnoth.org or is it solely on gna.org and sf.net servers?
20101021 02:38:55< shadowmaster> trunk is a tree inside the Gna.org SVN repository.
20101021 02:39:07< shadowmaster> we don't make sn apshots of that due to its sheer size.
20101021 02:39:38< ancestral> Any of the resources that are used on wesnoth.org, are they copied to it or do they call them from gna.org?
20101021 02:39:39< shadowmaster> in any case it is possible to link to files in trunk directly over the web if that's what you need.
20101021 02:39:50< loonycyborg> ancestral: There is a trunk checkout on the server but it isn't accessible for people without accounts there :P
20101021 02:40:05< ancestral> For example, the portraits that display on the front page, are those pulled from wesnoth.org?
20101021 02:40:10< shadowmaster> I'm not sure, it depends on what kind of place you are talking about.
20101021 02:40:35< ancestral> In the box where you have the links to download
20101021 02:40:39< shadowmaster> ancestral: ah, those portraits are custom versions of the mainline portraits, and stored in wesnoth.org
20101021 02:41:15< loonycyborg> The svn repositoty is hosted on gna and the downloads are on sourceforge.
20101021 02:41:15< shadowmaster> they are generated separately since they are stored in the JPEG format and contain part of the box's layout design
20101021 02:42:08< shadowmaster> a little PHP script I made poses as a JPEG file but in reality pulls the contents of one of  several files in a directory in the web server tree
20101021 02:42:10< loonycyborg> wesnoth.org is mostly for the website itself, for wiki and for mp/addon servers.
20101021 02:42:19< ancestral> Of course
20101021 02:42:30< ancestral> I'm just doing some forward thinking ;-)
20101021 02:43:03< ancestral> Regardless of its importance, how reliable do you find gna.org as far as uptime?
20101021 02:43:14< shadowmaster> not a lot.
20101021 02:43:23< shadowmaster> hotlinking files from there is something I'd discourage.
20101021 02:43:42< shadowmaster> mainly because they already have enough load with the SVN and CVS repositories
20101021 02:45:10< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47131 /branches/umcmg/src/addon/blah: Remove test file
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20101021 03:01:32< ancestral> Can anyone think of a particular case (at least with core) where a unit's ID would be different than the unit's title?
20101021 03:01:43< ancestral> Because I can't think of any
20101021 03:02:00< King_Elendil> me neither
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20101021 03:03:09< shadowmaster> I suggest not relying on them being always the same
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20101021 03:06:52< ancestral> I'm thinking that knowing the ID for informational, non-game purposes is unnecessary
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20101021 03:07:31< ancestral> Doing a regex string search to find out nonetheless! :-P
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20101021 03:54:26< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47132 /branches/umcmg/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Prototype GUI2 download progress dialog
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20101021 05:12:43< CIA-105> eleazar * r47133 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/ (47 files in 2 dirs): improved shore transitions.
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20101021 05:28:28< CIA-105> eleazar * r47134 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/water/ (36 files): less subtile waves.
20101021 05:52:23< eleazzaar> i'm quite happy to get that chunk of work done
20101021 06:01:46< eleazzaar> night
20101021 06:16:49< shadowmaster> hey, lua isn't so difficult to learn after all
20101021 06:16:57< shadowmaster> I'm liking it
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20101021 08:28:57< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47135 /branches/umcmg/src/addon/ (client.cpp client.hpp umc_entry.cpp umc_entry.hpp): Add source code files
20101021 08:29:10< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47136 /branches/umcmg/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Update scons files, add new source files and --umcmg cmdline switch
20101021 08:30:28< shadowmaster> hm, I'd better leave that part alone for now since ilor is working on it too.
20101021 08:30:53 * shadowmaster takes a look at the download progress dialog again
20101021 08:38:58< shadowmaster> hm. I have some random idea on the addons download dialog now.
20101021 08:39:41< shadowmaster> maybe we could scale down icons in the list to 16x16 pixels and hae a sidebar where the addon details and 72x72 icon is shown - bad idea. I keep forgetting Wesnoth's horrendous font size.
20101021 08:44:04< zookeeper> eleazzaar, looks like the waves-convex-* frames shouldn't be there anymore. shall i remove?
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20101021 09:05:51< shadowmaster> D: when did the green undead leader in HttT VoD learn to summon wraiths?
20101021 09:05:51< shadowmaster> I'm so doomed
20101021 09:14:18< shadowmaster> or not
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20101021 10:09:42< CIA-105> zookeeper * r47137 /trunk/data/core/macros/ (debug-utils.cfg utils.cfg): Added a new macro file debug-utils.cfg and moved some debugging macros there.
20101021 10:11:24< CIA-105> zookeeper * r47138 /trunk/data/core/macros/ (debug-utils.cfg deprecated-utils.cfg): Moved the now-deprecated TIMED_ACTIONS macro to deprecated-utils.cfg.
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20101021 10:18:16< Ivanovic> moin
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20101021 11:05:08< zookeeper> eleazzaar, nevermind what i said about the convex tiles. however, it seems there's still no convex beach anims at all (except for the placeholder one for one direction which i was referring to), and since you said that you're done i'm assuming you've forgotten to commit them...
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20101021 12:45:57< einHarzil> hi
20101021 12:46:01< einHarzil> am i missing something or are there no inofficial debs for 1.9 linked from the webpage?
20101021 12:46:36< einHarzil> there used to be debian.wesnoth.org but that does not seem to be configured anymore, just points to normal webpage
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20101021 13:01:42< Ivanovic> why not use the official debian wesnoth-1.9 package?
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20101021 13:18:10< Rhonda> Because I haven't uploaded it yet.
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20101021 13:19:17< Rhonda> einHarzil: Please bear with me until next week, I am almost finished with them. The packaging changes are already commited to git and pushed so you could extract them from there.
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20101021 13:27:23< einHarzil> Ivanovic: there are none afaics?
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20101021 13:32:32< einHarzil> Rhonda: ah, kk
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20101021 13:37:24< CIA-105> ivanovic * r47139 /trunk/ (24 files in 23 dirs): updated Lithuanian translation
20101021 13:38:02< einHarzil> im trying to compile by hand right now and it complains about libboost being too old. but i have 1.35 iostreams and regex in addition to 1.34.1
20101021 13:41:18< loonycyborg> Maybe you don't have appropriate -dev packages installed..
20101021 13:44:06< einHarzil> i meant the dev packages of course
20101021 13:44:57< einHarzil> oh wait
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20101021 13:46:23< einHarzil> hmm... right, i thought i'd have them but i only have both 1.34 and 1.35 libs and 1.34 -dev :(
20101021 13:47:43< loonycyborg> I suspected as much..
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20101021 14:35:26< einHarzil> hmm
20101021 14:35:37< einHarzil> not much action on the 1.9 server :/
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20101021 14:46:59< Soliton> well, quite some crashing action actually.
20101021 14:49:10< einHarzil> just managed to crash the planning mode
20101021 14:49:26< einHarzil> thats what i really wanted to see when looking for 1.9 :D
20101021 14:50:02< einHarzil> did not find the combined damage feature though
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20101021 16:26:46< CIA-105> eleazar * r47140 /trunk/data/core/images/terrain/water/ (6 files): removing the prototype convex animation.
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20101021 16:32:21< eleazzaar> zookeeper: yes, i didn't mean to leave the convex in.  I don't have a convex animation because i'm pretty dissatisfied with the concave -- but it should be enough to spur on a real animator
20101021 16:34:02< eleazzaar> Also:
20101021 16:34:20< eleazzaar> zookeeper:  add this in to UtBS if you wish.  http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31967&sid=aa9384c1233ac8919909dc00273c8b28#p462180
20101021 16:35:14< eleazzaar> i don't want to add a ruined castle that doesn't include ruined keep to mainline, but should be fine for UtBS
20101021 16:36:22< zookeeper> okay, will do
20101021 16:36:28< eleazzaar> doofus apparently doesn't want to do the keeps, which doesn't surprise me the way he's been trying to do a lot of quick little terrain projects and abandoning them whenever they don't turn out to be quick
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20101021 17:58:09< anonymissimus> zookeeper: there's a macro named {DEBUG...} that should go into debug-utils, in interface-utils iirc
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20101021 18:09:46< CIA-105> anonymissimus * r47141 /trunk/data/core/macros/ (debug-utils.cfg interface-utils.cfg): Moved the {DEBUG...} macro from interface-utils.cfg to debug-utils.cfg.
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20101021 19:15:37< zookeeper> anonymissimus, thanks. feel free to move other similar macros there.
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20101021 20:13:34< CIA-105> anonymissimus * r47142 /trunk/data/core/macros/ (debug-utils.cfg interface-utils.cfg): 3 more [wml_message] macros, overlooked to move...
20101021 20:15:16< anonymissimus> zookeeper: btw looks good what you did with the final scenario in TroW; I never played it however
20101021 20:16:28< timotei> does anyone know how I can skip commits from the 'po' folder? ^_^
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20101021 20:18:16< shadowmaster> timotei: git checkout po/   to reset the po/ changes
20101021 20:18:52< timotei> shadowmaster: I want something like ignoring commits made on the svn to that folder
20101021 20:18:56< shadowmaster> you may want to use a sane build recipe or disable internationalization altogether
20101021 20:18:58< timotei> just like... a trunk without that folder
20101021 20:19:25< shadowmaster> you can't.
20101021 20:19:36< shadowmaster> it'd screw up history.
20101021 20:19:42< timotei> hmm
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20101021 20:19:59< timotei> ok, fine:)
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20101021 21:05:47 * Soliton . o O (71MB addon, really?)
20101021 21:07:43< shadowm_laptop> ilor: when do you expect your addon server/client changes to be mergable into mainline?
20101021 21:08:21< shadowm_laptop> are the client changes too tightly related to the server changes or can those be merged separately?
20101021 21:09:36< shadowm_laptop> (mergeable?)
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20101021 21:12:05< timotei> shadowmaster: what's the new branch of umcmg for?:)
20101021 21:12:20< timotei> damn, can't belive HP installs so much bloat just for a multifunctional printer :-<
20101021 21:12:59< shadowm_laptop> me fooling around with addon management-related code, although I am currently leaving most of the work aside to avoid diverging from master and ilor's branch too much
20101021 21:13:28< shadowm_laptop> I'm probably going to work on GUI2 components first and cherry-pick patches into trunk as I go
20101021 21:14:00< shadowm_laptop> my next task is a prettier download progress dialog
20101021 21:17:27< shadowm_laptop> I wish KDevelop didn't cause multi-gigabyte memory leaks here with wesnoth's code though
20101021 21:18:50< timotei> nicee
20101021 21:18:52< timotei> :)
20101021 21:19:08< shadowm_laptop> no, not nice :(
20101021 21:19:15< timotei> well me didnt have any problem with KDevelop
20101021 21:19:28< timotei> I said nice, about the work, not KDevelop:D
20101021 21:21:27< shadowmaster> oh, there's a simplified parsing option
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20101021 21:22:39< shadowmaster> hm. I'm thinking that maybe what kdevelop does is trying to load the git packed files into memory.
20101021 21:23:04< timotei> lol?
20101021 21:23:08< timotei> what kdev version?
20101021 21:23:17< shadowmaster> 4.0.1
20101021 21:23:37< timotei> oh
20101021 21:23:39< timotei> brb restart
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20101021 21:23:48< zookeeper> anonymissimus, the changes must be real good if you can say that without ever having played the scenario :P
20101021 21:26:13< zookeeper> Soliton, it has a heckload of huge scenery/item images...some with animations
20101021 21:27:06< Soliton> zookeeper: any fun?
20101021 21:32:39< zookeeper> erm, well, i've never liked EoMa so it's not really my cup of tea. i did play it a couple of scenarios just to see what sort of stuff he's done, and some of it is pretty cool.
20101021 21:33:33< Soliton> haven't played EoMa so far, guess i should try it sometime.
20101021 21:34:20< zookeeper> the art itself is pretty crude but he does some interesting things with animations and such
20101021 21:34:48< zookeeper> and the way he makes scenery in the campaign is kinda neat
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20101021 21:50:56< shadowmaster> woo, I got KDevelop working by whitelisting project file patterns!
20101021 21:51:44< shadowmaster> and it even understands how to complete find_widget<tprogress_bar>(&window, "progress_bar", false).
20101021 21:59:43< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47143 /branches/umcmg/ (2 files in 2 dirs): taddon_download_progress: fix alignment issues, test progressbar
20101021 22:01:31< shadowmaster> mordante: is the progress bar widget really working atm?
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20101021 22:42:30< shadowmaster> yay, it works!
20101021 22:42:34< shadowmaster> (the dialog, not the progress bar)
20101021 22:42:53< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47144 /branches/umcmg/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
20101021 22:42:53< CIA-105> taddon_download_progress: Now this thing works except for the progressbar
20101021 22:42:53< CIA-105> Network connection code mostly taken from dialogs.cpp
20101021 22:43:18< shadowmaster> it might be good to generalize this dialog enough to reuse it for other stuff than add-on downloads.
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20101021 22:51:50< zookeeper> shadowmaster, what is that?
20101021 22:52:09< shadowmaster> a new add-ons download progress dialog written in GUI2
20101021 22:52:11< zookeeper> a new in-game add-on server interface?
20101021 22:52:28< zookeeper> just a progress dialog?
20101021 22:52:30< zookeeper> okay
20101021 22:53:59< shadowmaster> the next step would be the main downloads dialog
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20101021 23:18:48< shadowmaster> hm, the network logic isn't good as I initially thought.
20101021 23:20:34< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47145 /branches/umcmg/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): taddon_download_progress: WIP fix-up of the network logic
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20101021 23:30:34< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47146 /trunk/ (changelog src/addon/manager.cpp): 
20101021 23:30:34< CIA-105> Make the add-ons download progress dialog show the add-on title instead of its internal type string
20101021 23:30:34< CIA-105> Fixes a bug caused by wrong parameters order.
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20101021 23:31:58< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47147 /branches/umcmg/ (changelog src/addon/manager.cpp): 
20101021 23:31:58< CIA-105> Make the add-ons download progress dialog show the add-on title instead of its internal type string
20101021 23:31:58< CIA-105> Fixes a bug caused by wrong parameters order.
20101021 23:41:36< shadowmaster> zookeeper: you are using daily trunk builds lately?
20101021 23:47:38< zookeeper> shadowmaster, well, they're not quite daily...
20101021 23:47:57< zookeeper> i'm using the ones in hidden/win/
20101021 23:47:57< CIA-105> shadowmaster * r47148 /trunk/ (changelog src/game_events.cpp): Implement message.scroll (bug #16843)
20101021 23:48:06< shadowmaster> ah well. I implemented a [select_unit] tag a couple of days ago
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20101021 23:48:35< zookeeper> yeah, i saw that, i'll test it as soon as i can
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20101021 23:49:31< zookeeper> ah, message.scoll. that's great too, thanks
20101021 23:49:34< zookeeper> scroll, even
20101021 23:50:19< zookeeper> i've wanted to make the discussion between haldric and rugnur at the start of SoF scroll around less, but it'd have required annoying message hacking before...
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