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20101027 00:26:55< eleazzaar>  Ivanovic: your pandora thingy is 480x600 yes?  I'd like to consider anything smaller "unsupported" as i start to look into updating the GUI.  Any compelling reason to support smaller resolutions?
20101027 00:37:43< shadowmaster> updating the GUI? hooray!
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20101027 00:45:55< boucman> hey all
20101027 00:45:59< noy> hey
20101027 00:46:02< noy> how's NY?
20101027 00:46:08< boucman> noy:  other examples http://www.x.org/wiki/GoogleCodeInIdeas
20101027 00:46:16< boucman> it's cool
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20101027 00:46:47< boucman> I went to the metropolitan museum of art today, this place is huge, i'll probably go back tomorow
20101027 00:46:53< noy> shadowmaster: can you add one or two campaigns that a 13-18 year old can test?
20101027 00:46:56< noy> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GCI
20101027 00:47:09< noy> heh, good call
20101027 00:49:06< boucman> I did greek+primitive+asian art, and i'd really like to do at least european+egyptian, maybe byzantian and modern if I have time
20101027 00:49:52< noy> thats fantastic
20101027 00:50:51< eleazzaar> I spent about 4 hours there once -- not nearly enough time
20101027 00:51:51< boucman> it's one of those museum that is worth the trip by themselves
20101027 00:52:19< boucman> vatican and louvre are in, and I suspect st petersbourg too, tho I never visited that one
20101027 00:53:26< eleazzaar> my brain nearly exploded after 4 hours -- i don't know if i could survive the louvre or vatican...
20101027 00:55:28< noy> I love museums like these... however I have a particular love for air museums.
20101027 00:56:20< noy> I devolve to the age of 8 and change genders when I walk into some of them
20101027 00:57:06< noy> http://flyingheritage.com/TemplateHome.aspx?contentId=1
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20101027 01:11:56< shadowmaster> noy: eh, how am I supposed to choose campaigns?
20101027 01:12:16< noy> its really up to you
20101027 01:12:40< shadowmaster> I'd really ask zookeeper for that instead since he's more familiarized with the mainline campaigns' state.
20101027 01:13:06< noy> I did, but I thought you had one or two that you were responsible for
20101027 01:15:13< shadowmaster> not really. I've co-maintained UtBS at some point(s) and I occasionally put my hands anywhere I consider necessary during rare playtesting sprees
20101027 01:15:40< shadowmaster> I've mainlined two other campaigns (DM and DW) but they have their own maintainers
20101027 01:16:12< Gambit> noy: Are you comparing women to 8 year olds in the maturity factor?
20101027 01:16:23< noy> no. 
20101027 01:16:24< shadowmaster> although I may want to suggest Northern Rebirth with a prize of 1 million USD for finishing it on the HIGHEST difficulty setting
20101027 01:16:28< shadowmaster> ;)
20101027 01:16:44< noy> I'm comparing myself to an screaming 8 year old schoolgirl at a justin bieber concert
20101027 01:17:11< Gambit> You've been molested at an air museum 0_0
20101027 01:18:11< noy> uhh... are you saying that if you're eight years old and at a justin bieber concert you must be molested?
20101027 01:18:36< Gambit> http://www.theonion.com/video/justin-bieber-found-to-be-cleverly-disguised-51yea,18178/
20101027 01:19:55< Gambit> noy: Ear rape
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20101027 01:22:18< noy> right
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20101027 03:19:09< shadowmaster> Gambit: wait, what do you need a question mark icon for?
20101027 03:19:47< shadowmaster> also, there is such an icon in mainline phpBB already.
20101027 03:20:51< shadowmaster> okay, restored.
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20101027 03:29:24< Gambit> shadowmaster: I assume there are people out there that watch tech support and ideas just to help solve problems, or to interject their silly opinions
20101027 03:29:26< Gambit> (guilty)
20101027 03:29:31< Gambit> I want a way to mark unresolved issues
20101027 03:29:59< shadowmaster> okay, so now you have such a way
20101027 03:32:28< Gambit> I wish more developers would watch ideas
20101027 03:32:53< shadowmaster> so I did at the beginning.
20101027 03:32:54< shadowmaster> then I learned better
20101027 03:36:42< Gambit> I realize it's a useless ****hole
20101027 03:36:49< Gambit> But occasionally there might be diamonds...
20101027 03:37:20< Gambit> And on the non diamonds a developer turn down expedites the thread's closure.
20101027 03:37:30< Gambit> Thus reducing the volume of ****.
20101027 03:38:10< Gambit> So they can only do good by participating in the forum.
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20101027 03:42:00< shadowmaster> the last time we had developers participating in the forum we had to recruit moderators to pacify people
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20101027 03:54:46< Gambit> I am not worried about an armed rebellion.
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20101027 09:46:14< Ivanovic> moin
20101027 09:47:08< Ivanovic> eleazzaar: the smallest res we should support is 800x480
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20101027 09:47:27< Ivanovic> eleazzaar: that is what the pandora has and what several other mobile devices got
20101027 09:47:37< Ivanovic> 480x600 is something rather uncommon
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20101027 14:50:59< boucman> morning all
20101027 14:51:06< fendrin> hi boucman
20101027 15:13:42< fendrin> Ivanovic: Hello, how far is the release of 1.9.2 in the future?
20101027 15:14:36< Ivanovic> hmm, i don't know yet
20101027 15:14:43< Ivanovic> won't release this weekend since i won't be around
20101027 15:14:53< Ivanovic> what about sometime next week or next weekend?
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20101027 15:15:53< fendrin> Yes, sounds okay.
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20101027 15:32:13< sfb> boucman: Hello
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20101027 20:57:15< noy> does anybody know how to use subversion svn?
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20101027 20:57:21< noy> specifically upolading something?
20101027 20:57:32< mordante> servus
20101027 20:57:57< mordante> noy which svn client do you use? command line or a gui?
20101027 20:58:33< shadowmaster> noy: if you are on Mac crimson_penguin can help you.
20101027 20:58:56< noy> mordante: I don't have one... which maybe an issue
20101027 20:59:16< crimson_penguin> noy: I believe you do, actually
20101027 20:59:22< crimson_penguin> noy: open up a terminal and type svn
20101027 21:01:00< noy> it didn't do anything
20101027 21:01:14< noy> it said type SVN help for usage
20101027 21:02:03< noy> crimson_penguin: is there a client that I can download which is good?
20101027 21:02:11< noy> you would recommend?
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20101027 21:08:52< shadowmaster> mordante: I'm adding an optional image to transient_message if you don't mind
20101027 21:09:40< mordante> shadowmaster, I go ahead
20101027 21:09:46< mordante> s/I//
20101027 21:12:08< noy> [12:01pm] noy: it didn't do anything
20101027 21:12:08< noy> [12:01pm] noy: it said type SVN help for usage
20101027 21:12:08< noy> [12:02pm] noy: crimson_penguin: is there a client that I can download which is good?
20101027 21:12:09< noy> [12:02pm] noy: you would recommend?
20101027 21:12:40< sfb> noy: Did you type SVN or did you type svn ?
20101027 21:13:01< sfb> Oh, for usage. you have it then.
20101027 21:13:08< sfb> nvm me. \=
20101027 21:13:18< crimson_penguin> yeah, if it said type svn help for usage, that means you have it
20101027 21:13:19< noy> nope
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20101027 21:16:43< loonycyborg> noy: What do you want to do, anyway? Commit something to wesnoth's svn repo?
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20101027 21:18:51< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20101027 21:58:03< mordante> I'm off now bye
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20101027 22:02:39< CIA-83> shadowmaster * r47239 /trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): 
20101027 22:02:39< CIA-83> Add support for an optional image to transient_message objects
20101027 22:02:39< CIA-83> (Part of a forthcoming fix for bug #16859.)
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20101027 22:15:24< CIA-83> shadowmaster * r47240 /trunk/ (changelog src/game_events.cpp): 
20101027 22:15:24< CIA-83> [object] description messages are now shown using GUI2's transient_message
20101027 22:15:24< CIA-83> This allows usage of Pango markup in object.description fields, and
20101027 22:15:24< CIA-83> fixes bug #16859.
20101027 22:15:37< shadowmaster> zookeeper, mordante:  ^^
20101027 22:16:45 * shadowmaster loves how trivial it's become to extend GUI2 functionality.
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20101027 22:27:21< noy> so, anybody here with a mac, know how to use an SVN system, and has 5 minutes to help me out
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20101027 22:37:44< eleazzaar> noy, what are you trying to do?
20101027 22:38:05< noy> I've got to upload a chapter to a svn 
20101027 22:38:41< eleazzaar> noy: you are starting from scratch?
20101027 22:38:51< noy> yeah
20101027 22:39:10< eleazzaar> this is not for wesnoth?
20101027 22:39:22< noy> well its about wesnoth, but no its not for wesnoth
20101027 22:39:33< eleazzaar> the hardest part is getting the repository copied onto your machine
20101027 22:40:00< eleazzaar> do you have some sort of web link telling where the repository is?
20101027 22:40:05< shadowmaster> noy: out of curositity, what you need to upload is a word document, right?
20101027 22:40:41< shadowmaster> because it seems odd to me to upload word documents to a version-controlled repository since they don't diff well due to their internal format.
20101027 22:41:40< eleazzaar> still you have version control... i've heard of writers using SVN, though i doubt it is common
20101027 22:41:45< noy> yes
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20101027 22:42:04< noy> eleazzaar: I do
20101027 22:42:10< noy> I've logged into it 
20101027 22:42:18< noy> I can even see where it could go
20101027 22:42:55< eleazzaar> logged onto what? a webpage?
20101027 22:43:01< noy> yes
20101027 22:44:15< eleazzaar> i don't think you can do SVN via a web page
20101027 22:44:48< eleazzaar> SVN is basically a way to sync files on your computer with a central repository
20101027 22:45:02< eleazzaar> first thing is to get a copy of that repository on your computer
20101027 22:46:08< noy> eleazzaar: no, no... I know you can't
20101027 22:46:40< noy> you know what... I think I'll just give up and let dave do it
20101027 22:46:48< noy> thanks anyway
20101027 22:46:53< eleazzaar> np
20101027 22:47:25< eleazzaar> probably not worth the trouble unless you will use it often
20101027 22:47:51< noy> eleazzaar: I'll probably use it twice and never again. 
20101027 22:50:13< shadowmaster> eleazzaar: (pedantic mode activated) it is possible to do SVN via web pages provided some special infrastructure is setup at the server side, b ut that's rarely (if ever) used and would be more complicated to maintain
20101027 22:50:49< shadowmaster> the most you'll see most of the time is a web client interface for read-only interaction with the repository, such as ViewVC 
20101027 22:51:54< shadowmaster> again, server side stuff. Nothing for users to see here.. ;)
20101027 22:52:08< shadowmaster> (pedantic mode deactivated)
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20101027 23:32:39< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: around?
20101027 23:32:44< Ivanovic> yeah
20101027 23:33:17< shadowmaster> actually...I don't need your help. never mind :P
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20101027 23:48:09< noy> shadowmaster: around?
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20101027 23:48:52< noy> Oh I guess the joke won't be on you then  :p
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20101027 23:49:41< shadowmaster> hm?
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20101027 23:50:12< shadowmaster> oh.
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20101027 23:57:18< zookeeper> i'm going to remove the silly towers and the defeat condition they bring from SotBE:clash of armies. anyone got good ideas on what to replace them with (it's probably too easy to simply survive until end of turns)?
20101027 23:58:42< zookeeper> my default plan is to change the victory condition to survive until end of turns _and_ have no enemies on the north side of the river at end of turns. that'd work nicely if i can justify it somehow.
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