--- Log opened Sun Oct 31 00:00:37 2010
20101031 00:10:15< boucman> anonymissimus: you didn't create a bug, did you fix the msvc problem ?
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20101031 00:13:58< boucman> wesbot: seen noy
20101031 00:13:58< wesbot> boucman: The person with the nick noy last spoke 1d 3h ago.  1d 3h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: GO, GET TO THE CHOPPAH!!!
20101031 00:15:39< anonymissimus> boucman: no, I didn't get it any longer; no idea what it was
20101031 00:16:09< Soliton> zookeeper, eleazzaar: snow villages need snow movement atm, intended?
20101031 00:19:51< zookeeper> Soliton, mhh...no
20101031 00:20:12< zookeeper> i'll have a look at it after i quit playing RotMG :P
20101031 00:23:08< Soliton> actually i mean snowy hill village. regular snow village seems fine.
20101031 00:24:43< zookeeper> okay
20101031 00:25:25< zookeeper> right, i guess aliasing to village,snowhills means that since snowhills aliases to worst movement of snow,hills...
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20101031 00:45:57< zookeeper> wait, no, that doesn't make sense. anyway, i'll look into it...
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20101031 00:50:53< CIA-85> silene * r47319 /trunk/configure.ac: Added detection of rvalue references and explicit bool operators.
20101031 00:50:56< CIA-85> silene * r47320 /trunk/src/addon/manager.cpp: Removed unneeded tests.
20101031 00:50:58< CIA-85> silene * r47321 /trunk/src/game.cpp: Avoided costly copy.
20101031 00:51:00< CIA-85> silene * r47322 /trunk/src/ai/configuration.cpp: Removed useless tests since the config objects are necessarily valid at those points.
20101031 00:51:09< CIA-85> silene * r47323 /trunk/src/gamestatus.cpp: Removed useless assertion check.
20101031 00:51:10< CIA-85> silene * r47324 /trunk/src/ (6 files): Avoided comparing of config objects with zero.
20101031 00:51:11< CIA-85> silene * r47325 /trunk/src/ (persist_context.cpp savegame.cpp): Used constructor syntax to avoid conversion issues.
20101031 00:51:13< CIA-85> silene * r47326 /trunk/src/campaign_server/campaign_server.cpp: Simplified code a bit.
20101031 00:51:16< CIA-85> silene * r47327 /trunk/src/config.hpp: Used explicit boolean conversion when available, instead of the safe_bool idiom.
20101031 00:59:31< anonymissimus> silene: one of your commits broke compilation
20101031 00:59:56< silene> anonymissimus: what kind of error?
20101031 01:03:11< anonymissimus> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/BGZPmvUQ
20101031 01:03:37< anonymissimus> thats vs
20101031 01:04:10< anonymissimus> umm do you understand German ?
20101031 01:04:23< silene> i do
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20101031 01:16:54< CIA-85> silene * r47328 /trunk/src/game_events.cpp: Fixed compilation with MSVC.
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20101031 01:17:14< silene> anonymissimus: hopefully it's sufficient ^
20101031 01:19:04< zookeeper> Espreon, your r46995 caused http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32052
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20101031 01:19:24< zookeeper> Espreon, it'd be nice if you didn't break that much stuff... :x
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20101031 01:52:55< CIA-85> zookeeper * r47329 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/02_Across_the_Harsh_Sands.cfg: Fixed something Espreon broke, not tested though.
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20101031 02:35:13< shadowmaster> so, I was playing the Cliffs of Thoria.
20101031 02:35:32< shadowmaster> stumbled upon one bug, and another thing I can't quite figure out: how the hell do I make it to the marked goal?
20101031 02:37:40< shadowmaster> zookeeper: it's impossible to move Warven out of his starting location in Cliffs of Thoria on trunk.
20101031 02:38:14< shadowmaster> apparently the MODIFY_UNIT code changes the unit type and that's not enough for resetting his stats, in particular the movement cost for mountain terrains
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20101031 02:43:10< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20101031 03:03:25< CIA-85> fendrin * r47330 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/ (13 files in 2 dirs): 
20101031 03:03:25< CIA-85> LoW: Differentiated the difficult levels in more scenarios.
20101031 03:03:25< CIA-85> Minor bug fixes.
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20101031 03:16:33< CIA-85> fendrin * r47331 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/ (02_Hostile_mountains.cfg 03_Kalian.cfg): LoW: Difficult levels part 2.
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20101031 05:30:28< CIA-85> shadowmaster * r47332 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/maps/20b_Underground_Channels.map: HttT 20b: reduce the chance of initial recalls being spawned on cave wall
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20101031 08:12:11< zookeeper> shadowmaster, well, i have no idea. i guess i'll see if i can easily fix that...
20101031 08:13:00< shadowmaster> the cheapest fix would be just removing the Injured Sergeant and spawning a fresh Sergeant on top of it
20101031 08:13:24< shadowmaster> but I'm not sure if this is just a symtom of a problem with the engine
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20101031 08:15:37< zookeeper> shadowmaster, no, changing unit types with store/unstore stopped working quite a long time ago
20101031 08:16:29< zookeeper> anyway, a month ago i asked myth if he's gonna work on that branch or if we should remove it and he said he'd try to make an update soon, but...
20101031 08:16:57< shadowmaster> I finished Cliffs of Thoria anyway.
20101031 08:17:12< shadowmaster> I'll leave the next scenario for tomorrow.
20101031 08:17:26< shadowmaster> *later today
20101031 08:17:41< zookeeper> the next scenario is a stub :P
20101031 08:18:35< shadowmaster> well, as long as I don't need to go back to an earlier save.
20101031 08:32:05< zookeeper> shadowmaster, what was the difficulty of cliffs of thoria like?
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20101031 08:35:29< shadowmaster> somewhat easy after I figured I should avoid the swampy bottom edge with the invincible undead. I recruited/recalled lots of gryphon riders and merfolk to help me along the way.
20101031 08:36:03< zookeeper> okay, i'm happy as long as it's not ridiculously easy or ridiculously hard
20101031 08:37:30< shadowmaster> the objectives aren't  clear enough though -- I first tried to get Konrad to te initially marked goal location until I realized it was surrounded by deep water hexes.
20101031 08:38:05< shadowmaster> then I didn't know what to do until I read the WML and figured I could just send a merfolk to the goal first to enable the actual exit passage
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20101031 08:59:14< zookeeper> shadowmaster, okay... that sucks, but i don't want to touch it ;)
20101031 09:03:33< CIA-85> zookeeper * r47333 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/scenarios/19c_Cliffs_of_Thoria.cfg: Fixed Warven's mountain movement cost not changing back to normal when he turns into a normal Sergeant, and removed an unused variable.
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20101031 09:13:30< zookeeper> Soliton, the snow hills village movement thing seems like an engine bug. will have to ask mordante about it.
20101031 09:14:15< zookeeper> ...or anyone else who might understand the code
20101031 09:19:18< zookeeper> ah, i think i found a WML workaround
20101031 09:26:42< CIA-85> zookeeper * r47334 /trunk/data/core/terrain.cfg: Changed aliasing of villages from Vi,_bas to _bas,Vi which seems to fix an issue with villages on snow and sand hills using worst instead of best movement.
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20101031 09:44:33< CIA-85> silene * r47335 /trunk/src/ (config.cpp config.hpp): Added move operators to class config, in order to speed up standard containers (e.g. std::vector).
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20101031 10:00:32< CIA-85> silene * r47336 /trunk/src/network_worker.cpp: Avoided SDL macro.
20101031 10:22:06< CIA-85> silene * r47337 /trunk/src/ (config.cpp config.hpp): Added a move-aware implementation of config::add_child.
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20101031 11:33:02< CIA-85> fendrin * r47338 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/ (6 files): LoW: Difficult levels coding part3.
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20101031 11:40:24< vonHalenbach> hi
20101031 11:41:13< vonHalenbach> it would be nice, to have news about the translations on the wesite.
20101031 11:42:13< vonHalenbach> how much the languages from 1.8 are already translated. The the best and so on. :-)
20101031 11:43:09< deekay> gettext.wesnoth.org ?
20101031 11:44:26< vonHalenbach> i can read gettext.wesnoth  myself, but i think it could be made to a news-article.
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20101031 11:47:25< vonHalenbach> this would make translations better known to the public and would hopefully bring some new translations in.
20101031 11:50:16< vonHalenbach> i know that the last 5 percents of the strings are to be translated the hardest. ;-) 
20101031 11:51:00< vonHalenbach> almost bloodsuckingly difficult.
20101031 11:51:38< vonHalenbach> okay, goodbye!
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20101031 12:08:32< stikonas> another idea that can help to get more contributors is to expand titlescreen tip that tells about www.wesnoth.org/. If we shortly tell there how they can help (translations, coding, artwork, music, etc...).
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20101031 18:27:55< alink> hi
20101031 18:27:56< silene> zookeeper: i have rewritten [store_reachable_locations] so that it no longer uses [find_in]; i have checked that the test scenario still works, but if you already have some other code using the tag, it may be worth exercizing it
20101031 18:28:10< silene> alink: hi
20101031 18:29:02< alink> hello silene
20101031 18:29:16< alink> btw I have maybe a suggestion about one of your commit
20101031 18:29:51< silene> ?
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20101031 18:29:56< alink> r47301
20101031 18:30:38< alink>  I think that using "image.find_first_of('~') " is even better
20101031 18:31:08< alink> to handle portait.png~BLIT(dir/img.png~CS(0,0,0))
20101031 18:31:22< alink> (only relevant for 1.9)
20101031 18:32:37< silene> sure it is (but you are surprising me, i would have thought it's already what is used)
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20101031 18:41:07< silene> alink: you are right, i glitched, it should have been a plain find
20101031 18:41:59< silene> strange, i was sure i had recopied the code from locator::parse_arguments
20101031 18:42:44< alink> right, find_first_of is uselessly too verbose here
20101031 18:48:12< alink> I wonder how/when was decided this '~' syntax.
20101031 18:48:49< silene> when is at least six years ago, how i don't know
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20101031 19:09:09< alink> btw I am still busy, and me and my computer have some bad karma these days :/
20101031 19:10:32< alink> is it just bad luck that disk and mouse fail around the same day, or do I need to suspect gremlins? 
20101031 19:12:05< Espreon> Awww, poor alink...
20101031 19:12:16< Espreon> One should not have to suffer from disk issues.
20101031 19:13:35< alink> I am usually lucky with my hard drives, they live long and always warns before dying
20101031 19:14:42< alink> even this time, I didn't lose anything. But, of course, it waited that I install another one before starting to work fine again :)
20101031 19:18:21< alink> Espreon: or maybe you were ironic ? 
20101031 19:19:43< alink> anyway, bad karma was about the health/luck of both me and my computer. And it never fix me when I am sick, that bastard
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20101031 19:30:56< eleazzaar> either i'm blind or CIA bot hasn't listed my commit of a couple hours ago here.
20101031 19:31:23< eleazzaar> away afk
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20101031 21:02:10< eleazzaar> battle for wesnoth #8 in top grossing strategy iphone apps
20101031 21:02:50< eleazzaar> # 2 most downloads of stratagy apps
20101031 21:03:23< timotei> nice
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20101031 21:05:13< zookeeper> silene, great, thanks, i'll be sure to give it more testing
20101031 21:10:34< eleazzaar> Hm, Wesnoth is actually #1 in RPG downloads
20101031 21:11:24< eleazzaar> maybe i was unobservant, but i hadn't seen it on a top ten list before
20101031 21:11:24< shadowmaster> WINRPG! WINRPG!
20101031 21:12:02< shadowmaster> someone needs to stick that to the appstore description 
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20101031 21:14:44< AI0867> mordante: how possible would it be to allow portraits taller than 500 px, with only the bottom 500 px guaranteed to be shown. (that is, crop off the top if the screen is too small) This may be a solution for woses and other top-croppable units
20101031 21:15:24< zookeeper> yeah. 500px width should be enough if the height can be more than that.
20101031 21:15:26< AI0867> mordante: http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=463485#p463485
20101031 21:16:40< eleazzaar> can't gurantee 500px on a800x480 screen
20101031 21:17:13< zookeeper> i think they're scaled down already
20101031 21:17:19< zookeeper> i'm just not sure what the formula is
20101031 21:18:05< AI0867> lemme check
20101031 21:22:47< eleazzaar> anyway, sounds reasonable, no reason not to use the space above the portrait for more portrait
20101031 21:23:13< eleazzaar> as long as the art isn't critical
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20101031 22:10:27< timotei> Espreon: ...
20101031 22:23:03< vcap> btw, the titlescreen insists on a minimum of 888x472 these days. (emphasis on the 888).
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20101031 22:37:47< shadowmaster> mordante:  
20101031 22:37:52< shadowmaster> what vcap said above
20101031 22:42:58< fabi> Anyone around who would like to playtest LoW multiplayer with me?
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20101031 23:39:54< anonymissimus> silene: now that you've tested helper.deep_copy anyway do you commit it, yes, please ? :P
20101031 23:40:59< anonymissimus> I wonder why the basic or table library doesn't provide functions for copying tables
20101031 23:41:37< Espreon> alink: No, I was not being ironic.
20101031 23:44:33< CIA-85> fendrin * r47348 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/ (11 files in 2 dirs): LoW: Multiplayer setup changes.
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20101031 23:50:28< anonymissimus> hm internet says copying needs vary too much to put them into a standard library; and the deep copy from the forum makes the tabels share the same metable (!)
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