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20101003 04:11:10< shadowmaster> sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart
20101003 04:11:17< shadowmaster> bah.
20101003 04:21:44< Gambit> janebot: sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart
20101003 04:21:44<+janebot> Gambit: I am an IRC bot with an artificial intelligence algorithm; not a shell, command prompt, terminal, or anything else like that.
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20101003 06:09:06<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7630 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_macros.cfg: 
20101003 06:09:06<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: Undead Empire: potential fixes for several issues with units' ability to perform actions during a turn
20101003 06:09:06<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: (Replaced instances of filter_wml.worked_this_turn with filter_wml.status.worked_this_turn
20101003 06:09:06<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: in the WML tree to match a corresponding macro's code path.)
20101003 06:09:10< shadowmaster> Mica: 
20101003 06:09:49< shadowmaster> [filter_wml] matches against the unit's state WML tree root, not just .status
20101003 06:10:11< Mica> Ok
20101003 06:10:31< Mica> So when I want to find out a status
20101003 06:10:40< Mica> use filter_wml status.statusname
20101003 06:10:52< shadowmaster> [filter_wml] [status]
20101003 06:10:55< Mica> to filter a status*
20101003 06:11:17< Mica> shadowmaster: oK
20101003 06:11:19< Mica> Ok*
20101003 06:11:22< Mica> I'm going to test it out
20101003 06:11:26< shadowmaster> the foo.bar notation I use is a formal convention for describing WML parser trees I'm trying to establish
20101003 06:11:32< shadowmaster> if you want to check the commit's changes:
20101003 06:11:36< shadowmaster> shikadibot: log 7630
20101003 06:11:38< Mica> Another issue I'm having is giving gold. It doesn't add/subtract the gold
20101003 06:11:39<+shikadibot> Revision 7630 (shikadilord, 2010-10-03 04:08:40 +0000 (Sun, 03 Oct 2010)):
20101003 06:11:43<+shikadibot> Undead Empire: potential fixes for several issues with units' ability to perform actions during a turn
20101003 06:11:46<+shikadibot> (Replaced instances of filter_wml.worked_this_turn with filter_wml.status.worked_this_turn
20101003 06:11:50<+shikadibot> in the WML tree to match a corresponding macro's code path.)
20101003 06:11:52<+shikadibot> Web interface URL: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev?view=rev&revision=7630
20101003 06:12:11< Mica> even though it uses {ADD_GOLD} 'properly' (AFAIK anyways)
20101003 06:13:01< shadowmaster> omgwtfbbq
20101003 06:13:09< shadowmaster> the "format" operator!
20101003 06:13:15< shadowmaster> that's so Wesnoth 1.0!
20101003 06:13:41< shadowmaster> Mica: do you think I could have a try at rewriting UE for 1.9.x?
20101003 06:13:59< Mica> shadowmaster: I kind of planned on rewriting it for 1.9.x
20101003 06:14:09< Mica> We could work together on it
20101003 06:14:17< SpoOkyMagician> lol
20101003 06:14:43< Mica> Well, with 1.9.x's changes, and this horrible macro usage, I'd really like to redo it
20101003 06:14:50< Mica> I almost redid it for 1.8.x
20101003 06:15:05< shadowmaster> I can start like, right now
20101003 06:15:30< Mica> lol
20101003 06:15:38< Mica> Well once 1.8.x is fixed I wanted to get started on 1.9.x
20101003 06:17:35<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7631 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_macros.cfg: 
20101003 06:17:35<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: Undead Empire: replace ADD_GOLD inclusions with ADD_GOLD_SIDE
20101003 06:17:35<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: (Mica, do you ever check your stderr?)
20101003 06:17:56< Mica> :(
20101003 06:18:28< shadowmaster> what else's in the list?
20101003 06:18:40< Mica> Farming takes one extra turn.
20101003 06:18:48<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7632 /trunk/Undead_Empire/: Undead Empire: empty dir for trunk tree
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20101003 06:29:02< shadowmaster> Mica: your problem is that farming progress starts at zero.
20101003 06:29:05< Mica> shadowmaster: People can still work after cutting down trees
20101003 06:29:31< Mica> shadowmaster: It's not.. mine. That's why I want to redo it.
20101003 06:29:32< shadowmaster> and every time research is completed, it goes back to zero.
20101003 06:29:35< shadowmaster> it should go back to 1 or something
20101003 06:29:51< shadowmaster> Mica: okay, then "the add-on maintainer"'s problem
20101003 06:29:59< Mica> XD sorry.
20101003 06:30:14< shadowmaster> although I thought it was just like this in ANL. hm.
20101003 06:30:37< shadowmaster> wait
20101003 06:31:30< shadowmaster> okay, I'm not really sure :/
20101003 06:32:28< Mica> It's not really important. I'll fix it when I redo this
20101003 06:32:50< shadowmaster> okay, chopping trees
20101003 06:33:46< Mica> I might have just forgotten the {COMPLETE_ACTION +1}
20101003 06:34:00< Mica> or however it's done
20101003 06:34:27< Mica> Also, when people complete research, it just does 's farms now produce 4 (or whatever number) gold.
20101003 06:34:30< Mica> no name,
20101003 06:34:34< shadowmaster> COMPLETE_ACTION 0
20101003 06:34:57< shadowmaster> since chopping trees is instanttaneous I think
20101003 06:34:59< shadowmaster> yes it is
20101003 06:36:53< shadowmaster> Mica: committing a fix for the missing player names
20101003 06:37:19<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7633 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_macros.cfg: Undead Empire: potential fix for the "'s farms now produce..." (missing player name) bug
20101003 06:37:20< Mica> thanks.
20101003 06:37:44< shadowmaster> :debug :inspect helps a lot with these
20101003 06:38:44< Mica> OK
20101003 06:38:48< shadowmaster> Mica: okay, fix was bad
20101003 06:38:49< Mica> That really helps actually
20101003 06:40:14< shadowmaster> it should work correctly now.
20101003 06:40:24<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r7634 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_macros.cfg: Undead Empire: fix the last fix (bogus interpolation)
20101003 06:41:55< Mica> Thanks.
20101003 06:42:21< Mica> Listen, shadowmaster I know you want to redo this for 1.9.x.. but I'd really rather do it myself, with your help. If that's okay... I mean I don't have to work on this.
20101003 06:42:48< shadowmaster> okay, I can be your helper.
20101003 06:42:52< Mica> Thanks.
20101003 06:44:28<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7635 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_Era.cfg: Added require_era=no
20101003 06:45:45< Mica> shadowmaster: We are going to test all of your fixes
20101003 06:45:53< Mica> so we're remaking
20101003 06:46:07< shadowmaster> k
20101003 07:04:58<+CIA-18> wesnoth-umc-dev: manic_mica * r7636 /branches/1.8/Undead_Empire/Undead_Empire_macros.cfg: Fixed a goofy error where you can still build after chopping down a forest.
20101003 07:15:58< Mica> shadowmaster: How do I find the svn url?
20101003 07:16:06< Mica> Not for what I have checked out, but for the whole thing
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20101003 07:19:21< Mica> nvm I'm dumb
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20101003 07:19:55< Mica> wait yeah I need help =\
20101003 07:20:02< Mica> wait no nevermind
20101003 07:20:13< shadowmaster> make up your mind :(
20101003 07:20:18< shadowmaster> or this kitten will die
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20101003 07:21:42< Mica> lol I don't need help!
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20101003 07:27:47< Mica> shadowmaster: If I set it to include a folder such as {./Undead_Empire/macros} will it include every file in there, or just the folder path?
20101003 07:28:09< shadowm_laptop> it will include every file unless _main.cfg exists within that dir
20101003 07:28:32< shadowm_laptop> "that dir" is the target for inclusion, of course
20101003 07:29:04< Mica> OK thank you
20101003 07:41:41< Mica> shadowm_laptop: I read somewhere that start/prestart/etc events are bad for MP campaigns. Does this apply to MP scenarios?
20101003 07:41:55< shadowmaster> no
20101003 07:42:23< Mica> What if I make it a  2-scenario 'campaign'. Will it be bad?
20101003 07:45:03< shadowmaster> no idea
20101003 07:45:25< shadowmaster> why do you want to make it a campaign anyway?
20101003 07:45:54< Mica> It's jb's idea, and it's not a bad idea.
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20101003 18:17:10< Gambit> shikadibot: repo
20101003 18:17:11<+shikadibot> Repository URI: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wesnoth-umc-dev
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20101003 18:31:57< b0ru> is this the best place to ask about applying to umc-dev?
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20101003 18:35:08< Gambit> b0ru: Yes
20101003 18:35:11< Gambit> (and hi)
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20101003 18:41:33< b0ru> sorry about that - the connection seems a bit messed up
20101003 18:42:26< b0ru> are you still there Gambit?
20101003 18:42:34< Gambit> Yeah the webchat isn't the greatest thing in the world.
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20101003 18:43:14< b0ru> anyway, I want to apply to the project
20101003 18:44:25< Gambit> AI0867: ^^^
20101003 18:44:55< Gambit> oh and b0ru: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net/application.php
20101003 18:46:00< b0ru> thanks, should I send that to you by PM on the forum, or what?
20101003 18:46:23< b0ru> I have the sourceforge acct
20101003 18:46:26< Gambit> Not to me.
20101003 18:46:38< Gambit> I am not affiliated in any way with wesnoth-umc-dev
20101003 18:46:45< b0ru> ohh ok
20101003 18:46:47< Gambit> http://wesnoth-umc-dev.ai0867.net/crew.php
20101003 18:48:17< b0ru> you're not in the project? You've done so many add-ons
20101003 18:48:56< Gambit> I'm kind of a lone wolf when it comes to developing those.
20101003 18:49:26< Gambit> I ask for help often, but the thought of my working code being out on the internet where other people might run tools on it and .... AAAAAAAAAHHHHH
20101003 18:49:43< Gambit> I might wake up one day to find it indented or something!!!
20101003 18:49:49< b0ru> lol
20101003 18:50:21< b0ru> I indent my code so crazily, their eyes would bleed
20101003 18:51:50< b0ru> I'm really more of a writer than a coder, but I muddle through
20101003 18:52:29< Gambit> But yeah to apply you should send a forum PM to AI or Espreon
20101003 18:52:32< Gambit> or shadowmaster
20101003 18:52:34< Gambit> But he bites.
20101003 18:53:05< b0ru> well, I'd probably go to Esperon, since it says he handles applications
20101003 18:54:02< b0ru> so .. is it still cold?
20101003 18:54:15< Gambit> Fridgide
20101003 18:54:21< Gambit> s/$//;
20101003 18:54:30< b0ru> much cooler here today
20101003 18:54:40< b0ru> but sunny
20101003 19:00:19< b0ru> ok, thanks for your help Gambit .. see ya
20101003 19:00:30< Gambit> Bye
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