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20101002 00:00:14< Zerovirus> Not by my reckoning, the usual URL has been down since at least 2 hours ago
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20101002 00:02:46< Ivanovic> cf topic!
20101002 00:03:04< Ivanovic> why tend people not to read the topic?
20101002 00:03:12< Ivanovic> if noone reads it, why do we have it at all?
20101002 00:03:59< shadowmaster> so we can complain that they don't read it.
20101002 00:04:10< Ivanovic> ahhhh, right
20101002 00:04:13< Ivanovic> this explains everything
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20101002 00:06:58< Zerovirus> Hmm.
20101002 00:07:01< Zerovirus> Where is this cf topic?
20101002 00:07:35< shadowmaster> above
20101002 00:08:22< Zerovirus> Oh, you mean that textbox above the chatbox? THat's what it's called.
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20101002 03:11:40< un214> downloading 1.8.3 in one window while trying to find game in another and irc in a third
20101002 03:11:45< un214> I'm a multitasker
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20101002 03:16:18< shadowmaster> [B/topic
20101002 03:16:35< shadowm_laptop> un214: the current stable version is 1.8.5
20101002 03:16:36< shadowm_laptop> 1.8.3 is old news.
20101002 03:16:55< un214> well I clicked on current stable link
20101002 03:17:05< un214> just had the number wrong in my head
20101002 03:17:06< un214> g
20101002 03:17:19< shadowm_laptop> ah
20101002 03:21:18< un214> while ago, my friend was attacking an opponet with a plague staff for WC
20101002 03:21:31< un214> I said "salvage target acquired", a quote from homeworld
20101002 03:21:49< un214> funny that's one time in wesnoth the quote is actually appropriate
20101002 03:31:59< un214> always nice to see a poisoned assassin
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20101002 10:45:35< Ivanovic> moin
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20101002 18:39:17< Hulavuta> Hi
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20101002 18:39:41< hylje> hello Hulavuta 
20101002 18:39:42< Hulavuta> I have a question,
20101002 18:40:02< Hulavuta> I coulda' sworn that my post count in the forum went down, 
20101002 18:40:03< hylje> i am not entirely convinced you have a question
20101002 18:40:05< Hulavuta> I'm not entirely sure
20101002 18:40:06< Hulavuta> Because
20101002 18:40:13< Hulavuta> I don't really check it or anything
20101002 18:40:23< Hulavuta> but, was a topic I posted a lot in deleted?
20101002 18:40:24< hylje> you're paranoid
20101002 18:40:32< Hulavuta> Or did a mod go in and delete some of my posts or something?
20101002 18:40:38< Hulavuta> I'd just like to know...seems kind of odd
20101002 18:40:59< hylje> the downtime was not a conspiracy to reduce your post count
20101002 18:42:05< Hulavuta> hylje: Are you trying to say something?
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20101002 18:47:04< hylje> i'm just a whisper at the edge of your hearing
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20101002 18:53:52< Gambit> Actually hylje is completely wrong.
20101002 18:54:01< Gambit> Hulavuta was gaining far too much power. He had to be stopped.
20101002 18:54:49< Gambit> So The Powers That Be™ faked DNS troubles so that they could tinker with the database in secrecy and reduce his post count.
20101002 18:55:49< Hulavuta> Okay, for real, what happened?
20101002 18:56:12< Gambit> To what? Your post count?
20101002 18:56:38< Hulavuta> Yeah
20101002 18:56:41< Hulavuta> Just curious
20101002 18:57:00< Gambit> Okay so when you post your post count goes up.
20101002 18:57:13< Gambit> When a thread gets deleted, it actually doesn't go back down.
20101002 18:57:23< hylje> Hulavuta's code was modified so that the post count actually goes down on posting
20101002 18:57:36< Gambit> However there is a button in the ACP somewhere that makes the database... er... refresh itself.
20101002 18:57:42< Gambit> It resynchronizes all the statistics.
20101002 18:57:59< Hulavuta> What topic was deleted?
20101002 18:58:22< hylje> lots of topics in the past.. twenty years
20101002 18:58:33< Gambit> So yes you probably posted in some thread a while back that got deleted, and while someone was running routine forum maintanence the forum finally realized you didn't have as many posts as it thought you did.
20101002 18:58:36< Hulavuta> hylje: please stop
20101002 18:58:42< Gambit> OR your post count is the same and you're just being silly.
20101002 18:58:44< hylje> fine
20101002 18:58:54< Hulavuta> No, I coulda' sworn it was like 1400
20101002 18:59:00< Hulavuta> Because when Three Word Story was deleted
20101002 18:59:03 * hylje puts up the no fun zone sign
20101002 18:59:06< Hulavuta> my count dropped by like, 200
20101002 18:59:18< Hulavuta> And then I've slowly brought it back up and now it's 1317
20101002 18:59:42< Hulavuta> hylje: I like fun, but you're just being annoying, when I'm looking for answers
20101002 18:59:55< hylje> post count is, like, the most serious thing in the world
20101002 18:59:56< Gambit> Maybe the tables hadn't be synced in a while and all those posts were autopruned off-topic threads.
20101002 18:59:59< Gambit> Does it really matter?
20101002 19:00:24< Gambit> hylje: Hey. Calm down. This is http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeriousBusiness
20101002 19:00:41< hylje> don't you dare trope bomb me
20101002 19:00:48< hylje> (*click* *click* *click*)
20101002 19:01:04< Hulavuta> hylje: It's not the post count I cared about
20101002 19:01:12< Hulavuta> I wanted to know if my posts were getting deleted
20101002 19:01:17< Hulavuta> Because they were bad or something
20101002 19:01:20< Hulavuta> or if it was a glitch
20101002 19:01:38< hylje> if you're being bad i'd think someone would tell you
20101002 19:01:58< Hulavuta> Meh, maybe they wanted to piss me off
20101002 19:02:09< Hulavuta> Also, Gambit, TV tropes ruined my life
20101002 19:02:13< Gambit> Hulavuta: If it makes you feel better, I just looked and it looks like I lost a few hundred as well.
20101002 19:02:17< Gambit> SO here is my theory.
20101002 19:02:25< Gambit> You and I posted in off-topic a lot.
20101002 19:02:29< Gambit> Like... ALOT.
20101002 19:02:31< Gambit> *a lot
20101002 19:02:39< Gambit> A ton.
20101002 19:02:42< Gambit> A metric ton.
20101002 19:02:45< Hulavuta> maybe it doesn't count anymore?
20101002 19:02:47< Gambit> 21 jigawatts.
20101002 19:02:54< hylje> the existence of prune enabled forums makes the postcount fickle
20101002 19:02:56< Gambit> And those threads were being autopruned all that time.
20101002 19:03:08< Gambit> But the post count doesn't automatically update on thread deletion.
20101002 19:03:27< Gambit> Now I happen to know that the other day shadowmaster was changing a bunch of thread's authors in mainline content feedback.
20101002 19:03:32< Gambit> Perhaps he resynced the tables afterwards.
20101002 19:04:01< Gambit> And all those deleted posts finally removed themselves from our post counts.
20101002 19:04:06< Gambit> [/theory]
20101002 19:04:40< Gambit> Now... does it matter that I am now losing in posts to Sangel and Ken_Oh because they've spent their forum careers in more useful forums?
20101002 19:04:42< Gambit> No.
20101002 19:06:15< Gambit> Also that the thought crossed your mind anyone on the development, administration, or forum moderation team might delete posts or lower post counts just to "piss you off" rather offends me.
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20101002 19:08:49< Gambit> Hulavuta: In fact, I have a quote for you.
20101002 19:08:53< Hulavuta> oook
20101002 19:09:03< Gambit> janebot: 1 Anthony Weiner
20101002 19:09:03< janebot> Gambit: IT IS A SHAME! A shame!
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20101002 19:55:48< shadowmaster> Hulavuta: I can just hide post counts entirely, you know.
20101002 19:56:40< Hulavuta> ok...
20101002 19:57:18< shadowmaster> anyway, Gambit's right. I resynced post counts.
20101002 19:57:56< Gambit> And the 200 posts you shed or whatever were probably ancient auto-pruned off-topic threads.
20101002 19:58:01< Gambit> shadowmaster: Right?
20101002 19:58:09< shadowmaster> probably.
20101002 19:58:49< Gambit> Hulavuta: Could be worse. I lost OVER NINE HUNDRED.
20101002 19:59:14< Gambit> Which is actually really really sad when I think about it... I had that many posts in off-topic 0_0
20101002 19:59:39 * Gambit ashamed.
20101002 20:00:34< Gambit> Over 900 should be a meme.
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20101002 20:28:50< Hulavuta> Gambit: over 9000 is a meme though
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20101002 21:44:32< dougmencken> hi! where's the music? want to listen it
20101002 21:49:35< Hulavuta> wut
20101002 21:50:03< dougmencken> Hulavuta: I want to listen the music w/o playing :)
20101002 21:50:13< Hulavuta> That's easy
20101002 21:50:25< Hulavuta> One, you could go to the games files and extract/copy them
20101002 21:50:47< Hulavuta> Or two, you can go to West (the composer)'s page and listen there
20101002 21:51:25< dougmencken> Hulavuta: where is "game's files"?
20101002 21:52:01< Gambit> Would depend on the OS and how you aquired wesnoth
20101002 21:52:01< Hulavuta> what OS are you using?
20101002 21:52:11< dougmencken> gnu/linux @ powerpc
20101002 21:52:39< Gambit> install_directory/data/core/music
20101002 21:52:45< Gambit> But where the install directory is... I do not know
20101002 21:52:52< vcap> try /usr/share/doc/wesnoth
20101002 21:52:52< sevis> Probably /usr/share/wesnoth
20101002 21:53:00< vcap> not doc
20101002 21:53:05< dougmencken> Gambit: any name to find -print for
20101002 21:53:41< dougmencken> /usr/share/wesnoth/data/core/music, thanks!
20101002 21:54:17< dougmencken> music is awsome, really
20101002 21:54:26< Gambit> Problem solved. Thread locked.
20101002 21:54:33< dougmencken> ;)
20101002 21:54:58< shadowmaster> Gambit: you know, we don't lock threads like that.
20101002 21:55:20< Gambit> But I couldn't find an edit button. :(
20101002 21:55:21< dougmencken> I'm sure Gambit knows that there's no "threads" on IRC
20101002 21:55:46< Gambit> Not true. janebot has 9 of them.
20101002 21:56:06< dougmencken> bot?
20101002 21:56:23< Gambit> Oh wait... she only has two :(
20101002 21:56:38 * Gambit suddenly inspired to get back to work on the super awesome version with 9
20101002 21:56:45< dougmencken> btw, I do have 1.8.3 (manually built), topic sys there's is 1.8.5; worth to upgrade?
20101002 21:57:09< Gambit> Well check the changelog and see if there's anything you can't live without
20101002 21:57:26< dougmencken> Gambit: time to google "wesnoth changelog"
20101002 21:57:35< Gambit> It's on the homepage.
20101002 21:57:41< Gambit> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/tags/1.8.5/players_changelog
20101002 21:58:43< dougmencken> ah, map fixes.... well, not time to upgrade
20101002 21:58:52< dougmencken> (I'm playing only random maps)
20101002 21:59:16< dougmencken> oh, so a request, may I?
20101002 21:59:47< dougmencken> can the wesnoth client to remember random map settings for next game? like 5 cells, 32x40, etc.
20101002 22:00:54< dougmencken> I'm tired to change it every time
20101002 22:01:16< dougmencken> and why 9 cells by default? it is bad
20101002 22:02:27< dougmencken> 6 (7 = 6+boss) is the max
20101002 22:02:53< dougmencken> and time settings too, they must be remembered
20101002 22:03:11< dougmencken> (like 90 1st turn + 30 next, max 240, 10 bonus)
20101002 22:03:43< dougmencken> it is *boring* to change them every time
20101002 22:04:08< dougmencken> but... music is awesome
20101002 22:05:10< dougmencken> ogg123 revelation.ogg is the best
20101002 22:08:53< shadowmaster> and the oldest.
20101002 22:09:47< dougmencken> shadowmaster: the 2nd favorite is the_city_fals.ogg
20101002 22:10:06 * dougmencken loves vivaldi, violins etc.
20101002 22:10:23< dougmencken> s/als/alls/
20101002 22:14:40< dougmencken> I do understand track playing is random, but how may I turn my luck to relevation and the_city_falls? re-building is okay
20101002 22:15:46< dougmencken> s/lev/bel/
20101002 22:15:50< dougmencken> s/bel/vel/
20101002 22:16:09< dougmencken> sorry for typos
20101002 22:17:58< Gambit> You'd have to edit all the campaigns, and the DEFAULT_PLAYLIST macro
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20101002 22:20:11< vcap> see /usr/share/wesnoth/data/core/macros/sound-utils.cfg
20101002 22:21:33< dougmencken> vcap: I don't understand it, all that [music] name=the_king_is_dead.ogg \n ms_before=12000 \n append=yes \n [/music] are the same, how to favor some track?
20101002 22:23:18< vcap> i guess by adding it several times in the list
20101002 22:24:39< dougmencken> vcap: ah, okay, 'lll try it :)
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20101002 22:29:28< Gambit> nejucomo: the people in #wesnoth-dev would probably know more about that
20101002 22:29:36< nejucomo> Thanks.
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