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20101017 11:29:40< Ivanovic> moin
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20101017 18:54:19< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, is Morning Star intended to replace the other gui?
20101017 18:56:47< Gambit> He says they're different projects.
20101017 18:57:24< Unnheulu> Which do the same thing?
20101017 18:57:41< Gambit> My sarcastic thoughts exactly.
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20101017 20:57:58< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: your GUI is irrelevant at this point.
20101017 20:58:46< shadowmaster> Gambit: for the last time, wesnoth-tc and morningstar are parallel projects.
20101017 20:58:51< shadowmaster> they don't share the same goals or the same code.
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20101017 21:00:05< shadowmaster> wesnoth-tc is to be used for batch/scripted jobs. morningstar a.k.a. rcx is to be used by regular Joes.
20101017 21:00:25< shadowmaster> and they DON'T SHARE THE SAME CODE, gods, how many times do I need to repeat this.
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20101017 21:08:33< Unnheulu> Oh wow. they don't share the same goals...
20101017 21:08:38< Unnheulu> s/goals/code/
20101017 21:08:48< Unnheulu> s/code/both/
20101017 21:08:58< Unnheulu> s/both/I DON'T CARE/
20101017 21:09:06< shadowmaster>  ?
20101017 21:09:10< VurtualRuler98> s/both/WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN/
20101017 21:09:16< VurtualRuler98> no seriously, I know it' speople trying to fix a typo
20101017 21:09:26< VurtualRuler98> but why do people even use it? Is it some programming-inspired term?
20101017 21:09:45< Unnheulu> In anycase, Wesnoth-tc can be used by regular joes with the gui, no?
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20101017 21:09:59< Ivanovic> that is a syntax like eg used by sed or usable in some editors
20101017 21:10:39< VurtualRuler98> Okay, I'm going to use that whole "reasoning" module installed in most release versions of "human" and use asterisk instead though.
20101017 21:10:53< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: quite, but there's a lot of functionality missing and I didn't want to invest my time on learning a ridiculous language such as Python when I could actually take the opportunity to learn how to program with Qt4, since I'd eventually like to try my hand at KDE-related stuff.
20101017 21:11:27< Unnheulu> So, effectively it does the same as wesnoth-tc, just with a gui?
20101017 21:11:44< Unnheulu> And instead of learning python, you could always chuck me a pm ;)
20101017 21:12:02< hylje> VurtualRuler98: it's a convenient replacement notation, can't really make it any shorter without losing clarity
20101017 21:12:13< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: "when I could actually take the opportunity to learn how to program with Qt4, since I'd eventually like to try my hand at KDE-related stuff."
20101017 21:12:20< hylje> VurtualRuler98: the fact that it's usually valid sed command is a nice bonus
20101017 21:12:59< hylje> shadowmaster: it's not like python is a officiallly endorsed language to code KDE qt code with, oh wait it is
20101017 21:13:12< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, so why not share a codebase?
20101017 21:13:29 * Unnheulu thinks it would be awesome if there was an option to choose between qt and gtk
20101017 21:13:38< shadowmaster> Unnheulu, hylje: so, you are basically judging my own choices for my own work?
20101017 21:13:50< VurtualRuler98> Apparently.
20101017 21:14:22< hylje> i'm just saying you don't miss out on much KDE related stuff, much less your own KDE related stuff with a silly language like python
20101017 21:14:35< shadowmaster> am I not allowed to choose for myself? I had lots of fun, and learned something new in the process. I don't have fun with Python because I don't like the language. So why should I learn Python-Qt4 instead of programming with the native C++ library?
20101017 21:14:58< Unnheulu> You could use the native C++ library in python ;)
20101017 21:15:29< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: stop it, smartass.
20101017 21:15:55< Unnheulu> ...
20101017 21:17:44< hylje> so you should just outright say that you don't want python, not imply that python is somehow stopping one from doing KDE related stuff
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20101017 21:18:24< hylje> i'm not criticising your opinion, rather the chain of reasoning you gave
20101017 21:18:34< shadowmaster> hylje: I'm sorry if you considered that as an implication. It was not my intention and I'm perfectly aware that you can program for KDE in Python.
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20101017 21:18:42< shadowmaster> it's not like I don't run Python-scripted plasmoids...
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20101017 21:21:21< VurtualRuler98> Massive drama over how you write a thing.
20101017 21:28:46< Gambit> Because the pythombies want to convert us all D:
20101017 21:29:20< hylje> import televangelism
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20101017 21:31:41< Gambit> use Shield;
20101017 21:32:12< Gambit> Hmmm I don't have that one. Brb.
20101017 21:32:22 * Gambit checks cpan
20101017 21:44:56< VurtualRuler98> I'd make some joke about my python skills but as it stands I am horrible at writing most programming languages.
20101017 21:45:21< VurtualRuler98> I can read them, I can understand them, generally edit them if I know the program already, but I can sit there and all I can do is go "durr" when trying to start from scratch.
20101017 21:45:31< VurtualRuler98> The pythombies are clearly to blame
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