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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20101022 02:40:02-!- G-Lo [~Propagand@unaffiliated/g-lo] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20101022 02:40:03-!- G-Lo [~Propagand@unaffiliated/g-lo] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 02:56:47-!- hypatia [~hypatia@ubuntu/member/hypa7ia] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 02:57:41-!- shadowspar [~rick@S010600212974d18c.su.shawcable.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 02:59:27-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 03:00:55< [Relic]> Hello :) 20101022 03:01:18< shadowspar> hypatia: for some reason I have horrible luck fighting griffons 20101022 03:01:32< shadowspar> their 50% defense always seems like about 80% for me 20101022 03:01:44< shadowspar> so my mages & archers get to eat claws next turn ^^; 20101022 03:01:56< hypatia> shadowspar: yeah, that's why i found ranged attacks were most useful 20101022 03:02:09< hypatia> throw a bunch of ranged units at them 20101022 03:02:26< hypatia> sacrifice a few low-level mages if need be 20101022 03:02:56< shadowspar> yeah, but the mobility of griffons lets them pick their battles 20101022 03:03:33< shadowspar> (which in turn is one of the reasons I <3 the elven scout units) 20101022 03:04:19< hypatia> me too ^_^ 20101022 03:06:51< shadowspar> hypatia: let me know if I'm being unhelpful, btw 20101022 03:07:08< shadowspar> it would suck to go from being distracted by wesnoth to being distracted by talking about wesnoth ^^; 20101022 03:07:18< hypatia> hehe, true 20101022 03:07:24< hypatia> i should get this paper done :) 20101022 03:08:01-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20101022 03:08:39-!- DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 03:20:27-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-12-139.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 03:23:06< ancestral> shadowmaster: Is there a line limit to forum signatures? 20101022 03:23:20< ancestral> And is it 4? 20101022 03:25:18< ancestral> Ah, it appears the answer is yes and yes 20101022 03:29:54< Gambit> mmhmm 20101022 03:30:45< ancestral> Alright, I found a way to put some padding between lines 2 and 3 20101022 03:30:53< ancestral> Thank goodness 20101022 03:46:52< shadowmaster> ancestral: uh? 20101022 03:46:56< shadowmaster> define "padding" 20101022 03:47:25< shadowmaster> better yet, I'll take a look at your sig and evaluate dropping it ;) 20101022 03:47:29< ancestral> :-\ 20101022 03:47:51< ancestral> My signature is visually appealing and doesn't take up much space 20101022 03:48:04< VurtualRuler98> Signatures are silly. 20101022 03:48:09< ancestral> They are 20101022 03:48:17< ancestral> But it's my change to express my creativity 20101022 03:48:27< ancestral> …which I bore down with dumb things I'm working on 20101022 03:48:30< VurtualRuler98> Both forum appended signatures, and the concept of cursive writing to sign documents. 20101022 03:48:31< ancestral> but still! 20101022 03:48:56< VurtualRuler98> Hey, you, learn this out of date writing style, which you will never use once outside of early childhood, which is by force. 20101022 03:49:00< ancestral> VurtualRuler98: I will agree signatures in real life have lost their meaning 20101022 03:49:05< shadowmaster> VurtualRuler98: your opinion is not required. 20101022 03:50:02 * shadowmaster stares at ancestral 20101022 03:50:16< VurtualRuler98> Techcnically no my opinion is never required. But people still like me somehow. 20101022 03:50:28-!- YB-Betacrow [~IceChat7@pool-71-251-101-221.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 03:50:38< shadowmaster> "people" doesn't include me 20101022 03:50:43-!- mordocai [~mordocai@66.119.9.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101022 03:50:54< ancestral> shadowmaster: Feel free to stare as much as you like :) 20101022 03:50:57< VurtualRuler98> Laws of physics dictate someone has to not like me. 20101022 03:51:01< shadowmaster> although I admit it's mildy hilarious 20101022 03:51:06< shadowmaster> *mildly 20101022 03:51:25< ancestral> VurtualRuler98: It's all in your head you now 20101022 03:51:37-!- mordocai [~mordocai@66.119.9.243] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 03:51:48< shadowmaster> ancestral: I'm pondering whether to add some bbCode for you or to just punish you for using an empty subscripted span 20101022 03:52:03< shadowmaster> *span with nothing but whitespace 20101022 03:52:37< ancestral> shadowmaster: Then perhaps I'd write a period with the color meeting the background 20101022 03:52:41< shadowmaster> just kidding ;) 20101022 03:52:53< ancestral> Alright, good :-\ 20101022 03:52:56< shadowmaster> oh, yeah, that would break spectacularly on those styles you don't use 20101022 03:53:06< ancestral> That's true 20101022 03:53:28< shadowmaster> anything but "wesnoth", I see 20101022 03:53:39< VurtualRuler98> Haven't we learned the lesson of always making sure we never use hacky things like this? 20101022 03:54:55< ancestral> Hacky things are dumb except 20101022 03:55:05< ancestral> When you do hacky things in extremely creative ways! 20101022 03:55:07-!- YB-Betacrow [~IceChat7@pool-71-251-101-221.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has left #wesnoth [] 20101022 03:55:07< ancestral> Then it's genius 20101022 03:56:09-!- Dalton [~~@warzone2100/moderator/Dalton] has quit [] 20101022 03:56:21< ancestral> Bah stupid computer fan 20101022 03:57:44-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20101022 03:58:55-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 04:03:31-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101022 04:04:33-!- shadowmaster is now known as shadowm_laptop 20101022 04:13:59-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-185-8-145.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 04:16:46-!- gamefreak264 [~gamefreak@nc-71-50-115-116.dyn.embarqhsd.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 04:23:08-!- Dalton [~~@warzone2100/moderator/Dalton] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 04:26:18-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2fa1c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 04:27:36-!- gamefreak264 [~gamefreak@nc-71-50-115-116.dyn.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101022 04:29:55-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20101022 04:30:14-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20101022 04:36:06-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@125-239-84-115.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 04:41:28-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@125-239-84-115.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101022 04:43:37-!- TaylorSwift [~Taylor@125-239-84-115.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 05:30:47-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 05:38:47-!- oldtopman [3fe30cd0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.227.12.208] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 05:40:01< oldtopman> I custom compiled wesnoth 1.9.1 from source on my AMD Athlon X4 Slackware machine (64 bit). Why are all of the files stored in the ~/tmp dir? 20101022 05:40:47< oldtopman> please address me by name as your comments may not show up:( 20101022 05:43:39< oldtopman> My bad. I decompressed the files into that folder. Speaking of which, where is the data stored anyway? 20101022 05:48:27< shadowm_laptop> oldtopman: you mean wesnoth's core data? 20101022 05:49:47< oldtopman> No, the save files 20101022 05:50:19-!- lansiir [~lansiir@63-227-12-208.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 05:50:43< shadowm_laptop> run the game from the command line and it'll tell you 20101022 05:51:16< shadowm_laptop> namely the "User data directory:" line 20101022 05:51:44< shadowm_laptop> alternatively, the "User configuration directory:" line 20101022 05:51:55< oldtopman> that's just the problem. I'm salvaging a trashed HD and cant load the game. 20101022 05:52:40< oldtopman> I reinstalled linux and need to know where those save files have gotten themselves off to 20101022 05:53:52< hypatia> oldtopman: /home/username/.wesnoth1.6/ or whatever version you're using? 20101022 05:55:10< oldtopman> There is none. Does that mean the saves are gone? 20101022 05:55:24-!- lansiir [~lansiir@63-227-12-208.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101022 05:55:31< hypatia> oldtopman: probably :( 20101022 05:55:38< shadowm_laptop> oldtopman: what version was it? 20101022 05:55:45< oldtopman> 1.9.1 20101022 05:55:49< shadowm_laptop> oldtopman: no, the original 20101022 05:56:10< shadowm_laptop> and why can't you start wesnoth? 20101022 05:56:20< shadowm_laptop> ah wait, let me guess :p 20101022 05:56:48< shadowm_laptop> ~/.wesnoth1.9, ~/.wesnoth-1.9, ~/.wesnoth, ~/.config/wesnoth (?), can't think of anything else atm 20101022 05:57:07< oldtopman> I'm moving HD's and am suffering acute bootloader's disease. 20101022 05:57:14< shadowm_laptop> saves are stred in a 'saves' subdir 20101022 05:57:19< oldtopman> I'll fix it later but hey 20101022 05:57:21< oldtopman> ah well. I never actually accomplished anything, just downloaded a whold bunch of addons. 20101022 05:57:31< hypatia> oldtopman: on the old hard drive, are there no .wesnoth* directories in your original home dir? 20101022 05:57:40< hypatia> oh, never mind 20101022 05:57:44< oldtopman> nope. Not a single one 20101022 05:57:51< hypatia> if you never actually ran wesnoth, you won't have savegames :p 20101022 05:58:05 * shadowm_laptop is confused already. 20101022 05:58:14< hypatia> shadowm_laptop: me too :s 20101022 05:58:20< oldtopman> never mind 20101022 05:58:30< oldtopman> Thanks for the help. 20101022 05:58:34-!- oldtopman [3fe30cd0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.227.12.208] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20101022 05:59:18< hypatia> :s 20101022 06:07:22-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-185-8-145.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20101022 06:15:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101022 06:15:28-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101022 06:19:56-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101022 06:20:22-!- DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 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lobby? (i dont know all ageless factions and want to check if they have healer) 20101022 17:00:41-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101022 17:01:07-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-35-36.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20101022 17:01:28-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-35-36.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 17:08:17-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101022 17:08:30< shadowmaster> einHarzil: no 20101022 17:08:43< shadowmaster> you could start a parallel session in a local (not networked) MP game though 20101022 17:36:27-!- Eros_ [89de72f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.222.114.243] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 17:37:42-!- Eros_ [89de72f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.137.222.114.243] has quit [Client Quit] 20101022 17:41:12-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth 20101022 17:43:12-!- tparcina [~tparcina@cisco16.fesb.hr] 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