--- Log opened Wed Nov 03 00:00:56 2010 20101103 00:07:52-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-208-155.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101103 00:07:58-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-208-155.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 00:09:17-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@99.188.135.227] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 00:12:43-!- yann [~dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101103 00:43:29-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has quit [Quit: deekay] 20101103 00:44:19-!- PeterPorty [~Pete@pc-225-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20101103 00:44:27< CIA-81> eleazar * r47387 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics.cfg: terrain layering fix for sand hills and dirt. Doesn't seem to break anything else... 20101103 00:47:04-!- silene [~plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20101103 00:55:41-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101103 01:08:39< eleazzaar> so... how much of the game is GUI 2 now? 20101103 01:10:50-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 01:12:38-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 01:18:39< shadowmaster> good question 20101103 01:42:23-!- apoi [~andi@85-126-180-242.volume.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20101103 01:53:14-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Quit: crimson_penguin] 20101103 02:00:19-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@p508D19B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 02:00:19-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@p508D19B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Changing host] 20101103 02:00:19-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 02:01:10-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101103 02:01:31-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@p508D19B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 02:01:31-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@p508D19B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Changing host] 20101103 02:01:31-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 02:08:56-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101103 02:26:06-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz] 20101103 02:26:57-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101103 02:50:25-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20101103 02:51:41-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20101103 03:11:00-!- apoi [~andi@85-126-180-242.volume.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 03:14:38-!- eoc` [~eoc@pD956046A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20101103 03:16:35-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@99.188.135.227] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20101103 03:26:09-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-248-229.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 03:27:42-!- eoc` [~eoc@pD95612AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 03:40:47< eleazzaar> My Brain-dump on a GUI Overhaul 20101103 03:40:47< eleazzaar> http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=32080&start=0 20101103 03:40:54< eleazzaar> good-night 20101103 03:40:56< fendrin> eleazzaar: The main screen, [message], the new lobby, some dialogues except recruit/recall. 20101103 03:41:19< eleazzaar> fendrin: those are the GUI2? 20101103 03:41:28< fendrin> yes, those are gui2 20101103 03:41:56-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20101103 03:47:11-!- rigved [~rigved@116.72.163.243] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 03:53:09< rigved> hi everyone 20101103 03:54:24< rigved> i am compiling wesnoth-1.8 right now and then i will install it (using scons). how do i upgrade this to the latest stable version? do i have to download the entire source code again? 20101103 03:54:44< Sirp> rigved: yes, you do 20101103 03:55:06< rigved> Sirp: ok 20101103 03:58:28< rigved> also, if i wanted to understand the source code, where should i start from? 20101103 03:58:57< shadowmaster> depends on what area you want to investigate. 20101103 03:59:23< shadowmaster> game mechanics? gui? rendering? etc. 20101103 03:59:51< rigved> shadowmaster: well, basically the AI part, but my vacations will start soon, so i'll have time to go over the entire code 20101103 04:00:20< Sirp> start with a therapist who will try to determine why you have such masochistic tendencies? ;) 20101103 04:00:28< shadowmaster> src/ai has the AI stuff, naturally, but Crab_ would be better able to guide you through there. 20101103 04:01:22< shadowmaster> in general it's far easier to find a problem that needs to be solved/has been solved and start from there 20101103 04:02:05< rigved> Sirp: lol 20101103 04:02:23< rigved> shadowmaster: ok 20101103 04:03:27< rigved> btw, does anyone know whether Crab_ has finished with the GSOC project (extending the game AI to Lua)? 20101103 04:09:02-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 04:20:41-!- clanehin [~quassel@cpe-174-099-073-094.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20101103 04:36:38-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2da2b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 04:39:07-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101103 04:40:34-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20101103 04:47:06-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 04:55:37-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101103 04:55:37-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101103 05:07:31-!- un214 [~quassel@adsl-75-45-0-228.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 05:09:07-!- rigved [~rigved@116.72.163.243] has quit [Quit: Bye] 20101103 05:14:46-!- un214 [~quassel@adsl-75-45-0-228.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101103 05:40:26-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20101103 05:41:29-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-248-229.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: And that's the end of THAT chapter] 20101103 05:58:56-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 06:02:54-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-208-155.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 06:02:55-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-208-155.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101103 06:02:55-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20101103 06:12:50-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101103 06:30:19-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101103 06:30:53-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 06:38:11-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-248-229.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 06:38:56-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-58-185.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20101103 06:40:46-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-141-154.w90-18.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 07:12:51-!- dtiger [~dtiger2@fe26.hc.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 07:15:38-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.9.2 planned for friday or saturday | 170 bugs, 297 feature requests, 15 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20101103 07:45:36-!- silene [~plouf@bau91-1-82-239-244-109.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 07:45:36-!- silene [~plouf@bau91-1-82-239-244-109.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Changing host] 20101103 07:45:36-!- silene [~plouf@wesnoth/developer/silene] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 08:00:13-!- StealthyCoin [~StealthyC@adsl-99-24-221-137.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 08:20:19< CIA-81> silene * r47388 /trunk/src/ (9 files): Reverted r47386, since the code has never been used for the last two years (since July 2008). 20101103 08:23:38-!- Bocom__ [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101103 08:24:14-!- Bocom__ [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 08:25:32< Soliton> silene: see the log beginning 22:28 yesterday on the rationale for that commit. 20101103 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anything will happen soon 20101103 08:53:01< silene> keeping bitrotting code just because there may be a private branch somewhere that may need it is idiotic 20101103 08:54:19-!- Unnheulu [~ieuan@cpc1-pnth2-2-0-cust788.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20101103 09:07:23< Soliton> silene: the final rationale as i understood is svn properties not being settable from git-svn. it was mostly FYI though i agree it's not convincing. 20101103 09:13:12-!- LordNaSTy [~NaSTy@93-43-165-153.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 09:14:46-!- NaSTy [~NaSTy@93-43-165-153.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20101103 09:23:00-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2da2b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20101103 09:23:00-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 09:23:16< Ivanovic> moin 20101103 09:26:39-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101103 09:27:36-!- 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