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20101108 00:21:56< Soliton> wesbot: seen billynux
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20101108 00:22:47< Soliton> can i build wesnothd without ana still?
20101108 00:23:18< Soliton> loonycyborg: ^ (preferably with scons)
20101108 00:24:17< loonycyborg> Soliton: use_network_ana=false
20101108 00:24:31< loonycyborg> No idea whether it'll still compile though.
20101108 00:26:34< Soliton> let's find out...
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20101108 00:30:07< Soliton> looks like it worked.
20101108 00:33:13< Soliton> ok, mp servers should be stable again now.
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20101108 01:00:52< Soliton> btw, the game crashes when a unit gets both poisoned and slowed; somewhere in display::refresh_report()
20101108 01:01:59< Soliton> also a lot of terrain that is overlayed with forest counts as just forest, like on mountain, desert etc.
20101108 01:09:04< AI0867> water too =P
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20101108 01:14:10< Espreon> Ivanovic: Thanks.
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20101108 04:02:33< CIA-81> anonymissimus * r47519 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Fixed [capture_village] being able to set village ownership to a side without a leader.
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20101108 04:29:36< eleazzaar> forest on water is "not supported"
20101108 04:29:50< eleazzaar> it looks stupid and the move/def doesn't make sense
20101108 04:30:07< eleazzaar> Soliton: neither is forest on lava, etc.
20101108 04:33:28< eleazzaar> you can make stupid combinations of terrains -- i don't try to prevent that, since  we would probably end up preventing legitimate combos too.
20101108 04:40:15< ancestral> Actually there could be something to say about forest in water…
20101108 04:40:21< ancestral> Like a bayou
20101108 04:41:21< eleazzaar> with new graphics fine
20101108 04:41:22< ancestral> Could be home to an aquatic Elven subrace, for example
20101108 04:41:51< shadowmaster> no more recolored elvish please dear gods
20101108 04:41:57< shadowmaster> *elvish factions
20101108 04:42:22< ancestral> shadowmaster: okay merfolk subrace better? :-P
20101108 04:42:48< shadowmaster> unless it gets overexploited too, yes
20101108 04:44:03< ancestral> I love how even a mere example is judged by your tastes
20101108 04:45:52< eleazzaar> supporting a new elven subrace doesn't seem to me to be a sufficient reason to add a new terrain type
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20101108 04:49:26< shadowmaster> wow, I'm already running out of trivial stuff to convert to GUI2
20101108 04:50:14< shadowmaster> *already ran out
20101108 04:53:06< ancestral> eleazzaar: No, but I was just giving an example :-P
20101108 04:54:26< eleazzaar> substitute "elven" for anything else, and i'll still be happy to make the comment
20101108 05:10:58< eleazzaar> Soliton: but i think there are legitimate problems remaining with forest on reasonable base terrains.
20101108 05:16:19< eleazzaar> most greviously, some comboes of hill and forest count as plain forest, while others count as a hill/forest combo.
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20101108 05:50:46< Espreon> Sigh...
20101108 05:50:54< Espreon> Damn it anonymissimus...
20101108 05:51:24< Espreon> shadowmaster: HEAD no longer compiles... do something...
20101108 05:52:06< shadowmaster> pastebin
20101108 05:52:57< Espreon> shadowmaster: http://wesoth.pastebin.com/MeqBqnAQ
20101108 05:53:36< shadowmaster> oh no
20101108 05:54:10< Espreon> Wha?
20101108 05:58:38< shadowmaster> Espreon: it should work now.
20101108 05:58:58< Espreon> ... and it does.
20101108 05:59:23< Espreon> Damn it... I could have done that. If only I read moar.
20101108 05:59:52< CIA-81> shadowmaster * r47520 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: 
20101108 05:59:52< CIA-81> Fix strict compilation due to r47519
20101108 05:59:52< CIA-81> Fixes the following compiler error:
20101108 05:59:52< CIA-81> src/scripting/lua.cpp:1565: error: suggest parentheses around ?\226?\128?\152&&?\226?\128?\153 within ?\226?\128?\152||?\226?\128?\153
20101108 05:59:52< CIA-81> I hope to have got the logic right here. Anonymissimus should confirm.
20101108 06:00:34< Espreon> Oh wow...
20101108 06:00:55< shadowmaster> yes, its incompatibility with UTF-8 sucks.
20101108 06:01:34< shadowmaster> I don't know whether "it" is SVN, Gna's SVN, or the CIA bot framework, or the CIA service.
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20101108 07:03:43< Espreon> Ivanovic: In the known issues section of 1.9.2's announcement, you might want to mention that some content that uses ON_DIFFICULTY doesn't work in easy mode. This version of utils.cfg solves the problem: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/trunk/data/core/macros/utils.cfg?revision=47453
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20101108 07:06:50< Espreon> ... it'd be nice if we had some sort of mechanism to deliver fixes...
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20101108 07:33:56< zookeeper> Espreon, you can'
20101108 07:34:03< zookeeper> can't edit the post yourself?
20101108 07:35:59< Espreon> True, but I... just felt that it wouldn't be right...
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20101108 07:37:22< Espreon> *Well, I can, but
20101108 07:37:46< zookeeper> don't worry, it's right :p
20101108 07:38:11< Espreon> Oh, all right.
20101108 07:44:09< Espreon> Ivanovic: Never mind, I edited the announcement.
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20101108 09:14:06< Ivanovic> moin
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20101108 09:48:06< ancestral> Ugh gotta make an array and sort it
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20101108 15:17:09< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: yes it's right
20101108 15:17:26< anonymissimus> what compiler was that out of curiosity
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20101108 15:18:20< Soliton> gcc
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20101108 18:29:59< Gambit> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=32115&p=464508#p464508
20101108 18:30:06< Gambit> Font people ^^^
20101108 18:30:47< Gambit> (particularly Chinese/Japanese-font people)
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20101108 18:57:14< Ivanovic> Gambit: none of those are in here
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20101108 19:45:27< fendrin> Hello
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20101108 20:16:55< CIA-81> timotei * r47521 /website/eclipse.wesnoth.org/doc_howto.html: update the links and add the mac platform
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20101108 20:23:00< timotei> fendrin: did you see? we have 543 umc downloads:P
20101108 20:23:04< timotei> fendrin: https://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/wesnoth-umcplugin/1.0.0/
20101108 20:23:21< timotei> fendrin: oh, actually minus 175 the readme
20101108 20:23:40< timotei> fendrin: that gives me fuel :D
20101108 20:23:46< fendrin> One of those is my download.
20101108 20:23:50< timotei> :)
20101108 20:23:54< fendrin> But I haven't had time to use it now.
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20101108 20:33:42< ancestral> wesnoth.org's favicon.ico is a house
20101108 20:34:08< ancestral> Does there exist a small version of the logo somewhere?
20101108 20:34:20< ancestral> (that could work as a favicon.ico, for my own needs)
20101108 20:34:51< shadowmaster> why not try scaling down your own?
20101108 20:35:08< ancestral> Yes, but
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20101108 20:36:19< ancestral> My scaled down version will likely look quite blurry and hard to distinguish
20101108 20:36:38< ancestral> I was secretly hoping a pixel artist had done this at one point
20101108 20:36:43< ancestral> (by hand)
20101108 20:42:13< shadowmaster> http://shadowm.rewound.net/ummm.png
20101108 20:42:28< ancestral> Blecch
20101108 20:42:46< ancestral> You can't tell there are any swords in that thing!
20101108 20:42:58< shadowmaster> let's remove them then
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20101108 20:43:09< shadowmaster> scaling down necessarily implies loss of detail
20101108 20:43:29 * shadowmaster goes to work on something else
20101108 21:02:54< ancestral> shadowmaster: Something like this: http://imagebin.org/122389
20101108 21:03:08< ancestral> Of course, I'm not much of a pixel artist
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20101108 21:05:11< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32115
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20101108 21:24:34< ancestral> Alright, have at it! http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=32117
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20101108 21:26:58< timotei> ancestral: what project ?:>
20101108 21:27:36< ancestral> Oh it's not even that important
20101108 21:27:45< timotei> :P
20101108 21:27:54< ancestral> I always have projects. This one however is gaining steam…
20101108 21:28:09< timotei> nice
20101108 21:28:09< timotei> :)
20101108 21:28:12< ancestral> http://mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/index.php?unit=elvish_marksman
20101108 21:28:17< ancestral> one sec
20101108 21:28:17< timotei> porting wesnoth to steam?:))
20101108 21:28:18< timotei> lol
20101108 21:28:34< ancestral> Hahaha
20101108 21:30:39< ancestral> Hmmm, must be different versions on PHP…
20101108 21:30:54< timotei> :P
20101108 21:31:14< timotei> it's not necessary to show me. I was just curious :)
20101108 21:36:14< ancestral> timotei: This is an older version: http://www.mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/elvish_marksman.php
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20101108 21:38:17< Soliton> hopefully the stats aren't supposed to be accurate.
20101108 21:38:28< ancestral> Yes, don't worry, not there yet
20101108 21:39:10< ancestral> I think that's the stats for smallfooted creatures
20101108 21:39:17< timotei> oh yeah, wesnoth bestiaries
20101108 21:39:29< timotei> I've seen this before. iirc you showed it me once :P
20101108 21:39:44< ancestral> I am sure of it
20101108 21:41:24< ancestral> The biggest thing now is divvying up the JSON output to separate files per unit, backtrace the advancement tree (ugh), sort the defenses table, and click-to-ajax-load to other units
20101108 21:42:55< ancestral> Oh cool, it does work. Must have been my cache. (http://mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/index.php?unit=Elvish_Marksman and http://mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/index.php?unit=Elvish_Sharpshooter)
20101108 21:43:49 * Soliton notes again that the advancement tree is not a tree in the general case.
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20101108 22:12:18< eleazzaar> the mac icon should contain various scaled down versions of the icon.  I think the've been hand tweeked for small sizes
20101108 22:13:09< ancestral> eleazzaar: And you are right
20101108 22:13:40< ancestral> Is it just a tad blurry from the anti-aliasing
20101108 22:14:05< ancestral> the 32x32 looks really good though
20101108 22:15:31< ancestral> Although, the icons there are designed to be hinted for scaling in the system, and not designed to be an stand-alone icon necessarily
20101108 22:16:13< ancestral> In other words, you want to maintain proportions and colors better… also, you have a 32-bit palette to work with ;-)
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20101108 22:37:47 * shadowmaster doesn't get the "web-safe colors" business
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20101108 22:39:01< shadowmaster> pretty much every device can do "true" color nowadays, so...
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