--- Log opened Tue Nov 16 00:00:25 2010
20101116 00:02:06< Bob_The_Mighty> spaceinvader is the only other Brit in wesnoth I know
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20101116 01:45:51< shadowmaster> shikadibot: dirlog /branches/new_addon_server/src/addon
20101116 01:45:51< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Web interface URL to logs for dir branches/new_addon_server/src/addon: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/new_addon_server/src/addon?view=log
20101116 01:47:12< shadowmaster> ugh.
20101116 01:47:24< shadowmaster> this will be far easier to check with git.
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20101116 01:49:41< shadowmaster> damn, I so want to put my hands into the addon management code again -.-'
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20101116 01:57:09< CIA-86> shadowmaster * r47580 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/title_screen.cfg: Fixed the titlescreen GUI2 window description
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20101116 02:37:56< shadowmaster> eleazzaar: since you were asking some time ago about what remained to be converted to the new GUI toolkit: http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/130-Yet-another-report-on-GUI2.html
20101116 02:38:28< eleazzaar> thanks
20101116 02:42:37< stikonas> this is probably not really relevant but grep still finds more "gui::" than "gui2::" occurrences
20101116 02:44:01< shadowmaster> yeah, not really relevant since we're talking at a higher level here
20101116 02:44:44< shadowmaster> unless you can indeed confirm I missed more components ;)
20101116 02:45:23< stikonas> not really, but grep can also hint how much work is still needed to be done :)
20101116 02:45:52< shadowmaster> of course things like the game UI and help system will take much more work to be converted than say, the recall list
20101116 02:46:06< shadowmaster> particularly the game UI.
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20101116 06:52:18< shadowmaster> na es
20101116 07:02:44< fendrin> shadowmaster: ?
20101116 07:03:14< fendrin> shadowmaster: Mahlzeit!
20101116 07:03:59< shadowmaster> that was actually a typoed /names comman d.
20101116 07:05:12< fendrin> lol
20101116 07:05:31 * shadowmaster spricht nicht Deutsch
20101116 07:05:38 * shadowmaster looks at Google Translate.
20101116 07:06:58< fendrin> can be translated as meal, but is also a greating formula. 
20101116 07:08:17< fendrin> "Enjoy your meal!"
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20101116 12:28:40< boucman> hey all
20101116 12:28:45< boucman> wesbot: seen noy
20101116 12:28:45< wesbot> boucman: The person with the nick noy last spoke 6d 5h ago.  1d 4h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: noy
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20101116 22:16:46< Grimling> Crab_: have you already taken a look at my simple AI algorithm?
20101116 22:20:12< Crab_> Grimling: yes
20101116 22:20:39< Crab_> Grimling: but haven't tested it yet
20101116 22:23:58< Grimling> ok, when will I be able to begin with the more advanced version?
20101116 22:26:17< Crab_> Grimling: yes. but, it might be a good thing to look through your code once more and try to improve/cleanup it.
20101116 22:27:09< Grimling> do I need to continue working on what I currently have? or is it better to begin from zero
20101116 22:27:28< Grimling> because I have another idea and I think it's a better one
20101116 22:27:43< Crab_> Grimling: if you think that it's better, feel free to start over.
20101116 22:28:04< Crab_> Grimling: but, most likely, you'll reuse code or ideas from your existing code, that is ok
20101116 22:29:26< Grimling> Crab_: okay
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20101116 22:44:09< Crab_> Grimling: and what's your idea ?
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20101116 22:46:46< Grimling> Crab_: my idea is ordering the unit types by the following formula: parameter*quality - (1-parameter)*cost*QualityCostRatio
20101116 22:46:58< Grimling> parameter is the value between 0 and 1
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20101116 22:47:20< Grimling> and QualityCostRatio is a value to make the ratio equal
20101116 22:47:45< Grimling> so the cost has no higher effect than the quality
20101116 22:48:01< Grimling> but I don't know what value to take for it
20101116 22:48:25< Crab_> Grimling: you have to calculate it by looking at the list of potential recruits and their quality and cost
20101116 22:49:00< CIA-86> ai0867 * r47581 /trunk/src/addon/manager.cpp: Remove ancient todo (1.3 era)
20101116 22:49:18< Crab_> Grimling: and, for example, divide maximum unit quality by maximum cost
20101116 22:49:46< Grimling> ok, thank you
20101116 22:49:58< Crab_> Grimling: i.e., max_cost is 40, max_quality is 4, then max_quality/max_cost = 0.1
20101116 22:50:34< Grimling> Crab_: I didn't know if a constant value or a value depending on the possible units was better
20101116 22:50:46< Crab_> then, the formula will be 'parameter*quality - (1-parameter)*cost*0.1'
20101116 22:50:55< anonymissimus> this may be a noob question...how can one connect to a non-trunk multiplayer server using a trunk built ? e.g. the 1.9.2 server ?
20101116 22:50:59< Crab_> 'depending on what we can potentially do, if we had gold'
20101116 22:51:20< Crab_> anonymissimus: connect to non-default port, by specifying address:port as the server to connect to
20101116 22:51:44< Crab_> anonymissimus: see http://wiki.wesnoth.org/MultiplayerServers
20101116 22:51:52< anonymissimus> as for the add-ons servers ?
20101116 22:54:07< anonymissimus> that still leads me to the trunk server
20101116 22:54:15< anonymissimus> already tried
20101116 22:55:16< Crab_> anonymissimus: this definitely works for mp servers if you specify the correct port from it (try asking Soliton if you're looking for a particular server and want to know if it is available and on what port).
20101116 22:55:21< Crab_> anonymissimus: don't know about the addons..
20101116 22:55:54< Crab_> anonymissimus: you can also try to change the version string (can be done before compilation or in the already compiled binary or via debugger)
20101116 22:58:25< Espreon> ... why not just use wesnoth_addon_manager?
20101116 22:59:13< shadowm_laptop> dpkg --help
20101116 22:59:31< shadowm_laptop> damn scroll region
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20101116 23:02:49< Crab_> Grimling: for example of things that can be done to cleanup code, see http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/y7jCfBZh - instead of sorting the vector by hand, you can assume that you're already got a vector of pointers and just invoke standard std::sort function to do the sort
20101116 23:02:59< Crab_> Grimling: less lines - generally, less bugs.
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20101116 23:04:15< Grimling> yes, that would be better
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20101116 23:44:17< [Relic]> Hello :)
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