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I'm not sure if you want to implement what was discussed earlier, but, whateer. 20101130 00:03:58< boucman> Espreon: i'll have a look at what's happening with multiple defense units later, it's a bit late right now, but don't hesitate to bug me 20101130 00:04:18< boucman> and what was discussed earlier was more on the WML side, so more like something for zookeeper to do 20101130 00:04:29< Espreon> boucman: All right, thanks. 20101130 00:08:32< Espreon> boucman: It would be nice if things like type and range could be specified in [animate_unit], in case there's no relation to an existing attack. 20101130 00:12:02< boucman> yes, the attack filtering code hasn't been thought well enough 20101130 00:12:41< boucman> the basic idea is to have a way to specify "use the defend animaton you would use if you were attacked by this attack from that ennemy" but I'm not sure you can even do that 20101130 00:13:04-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20101130 00:13:27< boucman> I could eaither share the whole attack parsing code with the unit, or have a way to have an attack passed to me as a variable/chunk of WML (or most likely both since both have their use case) 20101130 00:13:40< boucman> anyway, bed time here, see you all later 20101130 00:13:51-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20101130 00:14:33-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 00:15:46< anonymissimus> Espreon: you can specify [secondary_attack]range=melee and such 20101130 00:17:17< Espreon> anonymissimus: From what I read, that only allows the animation to be associated with an existing attack. 20101130 00:17:35< Espreon> I'm making abilities. 20101130 00:24:39-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 00:36:52-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has quit [Quit: Grimling] 20101130 00:53:42-!- eoc [~eoc@pD95608CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101130 00:58:35-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101130 01:15:37-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 0 bugs, 0 feature requests, 0 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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I've given him one of my spreadsheets as an example. 20101130 10:36:09-!- Bocom__ [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20101130 10:37:13-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-127-26-200.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: And that’s the end of THAT chapter.] 20101130 10:37:44-!- Bocom [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 10:54:23-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 10:54:56-!- Bocom [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20101130 10:55:01-!- Bocom [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 10:59:31-!- MeccaGod [MeccaGod@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 11:19:40-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-158-44-235.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20101130 11:21:15< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47769 /trunk/po/ (5 files in 5 dirs): updated Japanese translation 20101130 11:50:54-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 11:58:25-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20101130 12:11:20-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20101130 12:53:02-!- rigved [~rigved@116.72.163.243] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 13:07:31-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp109-252-131-14.pppoe.spdop.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 13:07:31-!- loonybot [~loonybot@ppp109-252-131-14.pppoe.spdop.ru] has quit [Changing host] 20101130 13:07:31-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 13:08:38-!- loonycyborg [~sergey@wesnoth/developer/loonycyborg] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 13:23:34-!- rigved [~rigved@116.72.163.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20101130 13:42:59< elias> wesbot, seen ancestral 20101130 13:42:59< wesbot> elias: The person with the nick ancestral 3h 5m ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth with the message: Quit: And that’s the end of THAT chapter. 20101130 13:50:13-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 14:10:36-!- StelZ40494 [55e945b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.233.69.178] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 14:11:32< StelZ40494> Good day, I have a question about GCI tasks, if there are wording, typos in russian translation can I lcaim the task? 20101130 14:11:43< StelZ40494> claim* 20101130 14:13:15< StelZ40494> anybody here? 20101130 14:14:03< Ivanovic> StelZ40494: there is no task for it 20101130 14:14:16< Ivanovic> StelZ40494: simply because the maintainer of the russian translation does not participate 20101130 14:14:33< StelZ40494> ok, understood, thnx 20101130 14:14:34< Ivanovic> and only with the langs maintainer we can at the end judge what is a "real task" and which tasks were solved 20101130 14:14:58< Ivanovic> StelZ40494: you should contact the russian lang maintainer asking him to join as mentor for GCI mentioning that you are willing to look at tasks 20101130 14:15:51< Ivanovic> his email address is listed on this wiki page: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothTranslations 20101130 14:17:32< StelZ40494> in GCI tasks can i report about bugs in english lang? 20101130 14:24:14-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 14:29:27-!- StelZ40494 [55e945b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.233.69.178] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20101130 14:42:32-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 14:42:40-!- Gambit [~Gambit@67.232.229.73] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 14:42:40-!- Gambit [~Gambit@67.232.229.73] has quit [Changing host] 20101130 14:42:40-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 14:45:07-!- Bocom [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101130 14:45:19-!- Bocom [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 14:45:47-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-089-203.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 14:47:06< CIA-28> anonymissimus * r47770 /trunk/data/hardwired/tips.cfg: fixed tip wording 20101130 14:56:07-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101130 14:57:56-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101130 14:59:57-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl54020F49.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 15:14:14-!- xenocratus01 [xenocratus@79.117.35.26] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 15:15:00-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl54020F49.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101130 15:15:25-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl54020F49.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 15:24:18-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 15:38:24-!- MeccaGod [MeccaGod@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has quit [] 20101130 15:43:48-!- GNUtoo|laptop [~gnutoo@host31-144-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 15:48:17-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20101130 15:51:55-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgk123.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 15:52:15< Crab_> zookeeper: around ? 20101130 15:57:47< zookeeper> Crab_, yeah, what's up? 20101130 15:57:47-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl54020F49.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101130 15:57:57-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl54020F49.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 15:58:00< Crab_> zookeeper: in http://pastebin.com/5RKNrRVg (it's The South Guard scenario 5), how can we rewrite the transfer of Urza from side=2 to side=1, while avoiding the duplication of Urza's code ? 20101130 15:59:23< Crab_> ( type=Outlaw, id=Urza Afalas, name= _ "Urza Afalas" , ... are duplicated ) 20101130 16:00:32< zookeeper> sure, it's possible, but is there any particular reason to? 20101130 16:01:23< Crab_> as part of Google Code-in, we want to make TSG use recall-or-create semantics for characters 20101130 16:01:33< Crab_> Urza appears later in one of the branches, if player allies with him 20101130 16:01:53-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-158-44-235.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:01:57< Crab_> so, we want to extract his config into characters.cfg file, to be used later in 06b 20101130 16:02:24< zookeeper> right, ok.. 20101130 16:02:37< Crab_> and, the question is, how can we avoid duplicating his stats here when his side is changed 20101130 16:03:29< zookeeper> i'm not completely sure how the recall-or-create semantics work 20101130 16:03:53< zookeeper> is there an existing example? 20101130 16:04:07< Crab_> so, the question is, will the simplest way ( http://pastebin.com/x0RRQXC9 ) do the trick ? 20101130 16:04:33< Crab_> zookeeper: about recall-or-create: [unit] id=X [/unit] recalls if there's unit with id=X in recall list 20101130 16:04:39< Crab_> LoW uses it a lot 20101130 16:05:05-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc12-brig16-2-0-cust84.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:05:44 * zookeeper thinks 20101130 16:06:00< Crab_> ( it's here mainly to simplify debug by allowing to :cl to levels where some mid-campaign characters might be required ) 20101130 16:07:24< Crab_> I was slightly confused by the fact that TSG has done a drop-recreate of Urza in the transfer config, instead of just modifying his side and adding hero/loyal stuff. 20101130 16:07:30-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-158-44-235.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20101130 16:08:34< zookeeper> the main reason why i'm creating a new unit is because i needed to add the loyal trait, hero icon, portrait, keep xp, facing (should add hp to that list too), which would amount to a lot of individual modifications. 20101130 16:08:55< zookeeper> maybe it's all doable with [modify_unit], i don't know 20101130 16:13:36< zookeeper> i don't see how you could avoid the duplication: his side definition puts him on side 2, so if you :cl before he's turned to side 1 then surely he won't be recalled to side 1 in the next scenario? 20101130 16:14:46< zookeeper> that is, you still need separate code for the side definition and the recall-or-create unit code in subsequent scenarios 20101130 16:20:15< Crab_> zookeeper: ok, understood, thanks. 20101130 16:21:15-!- eleazzaar_ [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-216-32.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:21:15-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-216-32.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101130 16:21:15-!- eleazzaar_ is now known as eleazzaar 20101130 16:21:25< zookeeper> so, feel free to convert the single unit code which recreates him on side 1 as long as all the necessary modifications are done (xp, facing, hp, loyal, heroicon, canrecruit, profile) 20101130 16:22:35< Crab_> ok, thanks, that's what I've wanted to know. 20101130 16:23:09-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc12-brig16-2-0-cust84.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]] 20101130 16:23:58-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:26:49-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:36:31-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:42:38-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:44:50-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-089-203.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101130 16:45:51-!- dtiger [~dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-17-209.telecom.by] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:57:03-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:57:05-!- Mussious_ [~kamil@dgf113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 16:58:27< Grimling> Crab_: hi 20101130 16:58:44< Crab_> hello 20101130 16:59:23-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgk123.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20101130 17:00:12< Grimling> Crab_: I sent you the debugged code, but as I said in the message, the skeletons seem to be the best unit against dwarvish fighters 20101130 17:01:12< Crab_> and what about the second part, where ai though to counter skeletons with thieves ? 20101130 17:02:04-!- Mussious_ [~kamil@dgf113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20101130 17:02:05< Grimling> I'll take a look at the log 20101130 17:02:59-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20101130 17:09:29< Grimling> when I recruit skeletons, the AI recruits Dwarvish fighters 20101130 17:09:57< Grimling> a thief gets a low score against skeletons 20101130 17:11:46< Crab_> ok. 20101130 17:11:54< Crab_> is the latest version of your code in the PM ? 20101130 17:12:15-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101130 17:12:55< Grimling> Crab_: yes, the last one is with LOG_AI and I've removed the unused methods in that file 20101130 17:13:07< Crab_> ok, good, I'll check it out today in +6 hours 20101130 17:13:22< Grimling> crab_: ok, thanks 20101130 17:13:31< Crab_> I will debug it a bit, and if all looks ok, then we'll be able to see what can be improved further. 20101130 17:15:25-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 17:16:23-!- Rh0nda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 17:17:10-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20101130 17:18:52-!- Rh0nda is now known as Rhonda 20101130 17:18:57-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has quit [Changing host] 20101130 17:18:57-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 17:19:28< Grimling> Crab_: ok, I've just seen that with the cleaning of the code, I've left a std::endl; at the end of line 528 20101130 17:20:19-!- PeterPorty [~Pete@pc-163-112-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 17:22:04-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has quit [Quit: Going down the drain....] 20101130 17:22:42-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 17:23:11-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@anguilla.debian.or.at] has quit [Changing host] 20101130 17:23:11-!- Rhonda [~rhonda@wesnoth/developer/rhonda] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 17:24:20< Grimling> Crab_: the rest compiles fine 20101130 17:24:24< Crab_> ok 20101130 17:33:12-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-158-44-235.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 17:38:13-!- eleazzaar [~jbjerk@ppp-70-226-216-32.dsl.spfdil.ameritech.net] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20101130 17:42:44-!- Crab_ [~Crab@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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where exactly am I supposed to report bugs? 20101130 18:56:56< Soliton> at bugs.wesnoth.org 20101130 18:57:01< porcho> bugs.wesnoth.org gives mi 404 error 20101130 18:57:29< Soliton> right, gna! is down. 20101130 18:57:43< Grimling> Soliton: In the AI code there's a method compare_unit_types, and the recruitment algorithm makes use of it, maybe it could be another GCI task to make a difference between them in the recruiting? 20101130 18:58:22< Soliton> i guess the technical problems or whatever it's called forum would be your next best bet. 20101130 18:58:23< Grimling> Soliton: the compare_unit_types calls resistance_against(), I suppose this is for defense and attack? 20101130 18:59:13< Soliton> Grimling: depends, a DF can not respond to the ranged attack of the DA so it's irrelevant on attack there. 20101130 18:59:14< porcho> okay, thanls 20101130 18:59:17< porcho> thanks 20101130 18:59:20< porcho> :) 20101130 18:59:40-!- porcho [4e53f8cd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.83.248.205] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20101130 19:01:09< Soliton> Grimling: yes, it'd be good to take defending/attacking into the comparison but i'm not sure how easily the ai can tell whether it will mostly attack or defend with that unit... 20101130 19:02:09< Soliton> but just generally recruiting a mix of good attackers and defenders should be a good idea for a balanced/fair scenario. 20101130 19:02:23< Grimling> Soliton: maybe another parameter for attack / defense (as quality / quantity) for the AI? 20101130 19:02:38< Soliton> of course most scenarios involving the AI are not fair... :-P 20101130 19:02:59< Soliton> sounds good. 20101130 19:13:25-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101130 19:15:55-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 19:20:49-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgf113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20101130 19:47:02-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc12-brig16-2-0-cust84.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 19:53:18-!- PeterPorty [~Pete@pc-163-112-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20101130 19:53:57-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc12-brig16-2-0-cust84.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]] 20101130 19:55:03-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101130 20:06:10-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-089-203.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 20:08:32< anonymissimus> zookeeper: "> the main reason why i'm creating a new unit is because i needed to add the loyal trait, hero icon, portrait, keep xp, facing (should add hp to that list too), which would amount to a lot of individual modifications." 20101130 20:08:39< anonymissimus> yes should all work 20101130 20:28:27-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 20:34:43-!- PeterPorty [~Pete@pc-163-112-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 20:46:09-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Quit: On the road again] 20101130 20:46:23-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 20:48:05-!- PeterPorty [~Pete@pc-163-112-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20101130 20:48:44-!- quetzal [~Quetzalco@dynamic-78-8-75-6.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 21:02:59-!- Grimling [~floris_ki@91.181.233.147] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20101130 21:04:08-!- quetzal [~Quetzalco@dynamic-78-8-75-6.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101130 21:11:05-!- stikonas [~and@bcm-131-111-247-113.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 21:11:05-!- stikonas [~and@bcm-131-111-247-113.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Changing host] 20101130 21:11:05-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 21:15:24-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl54020F49.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101130 21:24:11-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 21:26:23< shadowmaster> on the bright side, the bug counter is where it should be, at zero! 20101130 21:28:43-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-038.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: Smell ya later!] 20101130 21:29:19-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 21:34:58-!- Upthorn [ogmar@adsl-75-26-179-137.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: switching computers.] 20101130 21:44:56-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 21:49:58-!- ABCD [~abcd@gentoo/developer/abcd] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20101130 21:50:33-!- ABCD [~abcd@gentoo/developer/abcd] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 21:50:58-!- Grimling is now known as Grimling_ 20101130 21:52:19-!- Grimling_ is now known as Grimling 20101130 22:00:49-!- reid [~reid@c-98-195-128-61.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 22:01:15-!- reid is now known as Guest35391 20101130 22:07:24-!- dtiger [~dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-17-209.telecom.by] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101130 22:10:12< elias> 0 bugs? i don't believe it 20101130 22:10:53< Grimling> elias: gna is down 20101130 22:11:01< elias> would be the first project (with reasonable user base) i've ever seen with 0 bug reports :P 20101130 22:11:10< Crab_> ) 20101130 22:12:00< Guest35391> Crab_: Ok I think i'm almost done: http://pastebin.com/Ys2cLxiD 20101130 22:12:24-!- Guest35391 is now known as _reid_ 20101130 22:12:32< Crab_> _reid_: yes, almost. move x,y=7,8 to [criteria] 20101130 22:15:16< _reid_> http://pastebin.com/t9zgXrty 20101130 22:16:16< Crab_> _reid_: in 06_Return_to_Parthyn.cfg, your [goal] tags lack [criteria] tags 20101130 22:16:28< Crab_> e.g. id=Malin Keshar should be inside [criteria] 20101130 22:16:47< Crab_> same in 05_Orc_War.cfg 20101130 22:16:53< _reid_> all id's I presume. 20101130 22:17:13< _reid_> I had trouble finding a list of everything that goes inside [criteria] 20101130 22:17:16-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-095-208-089-203.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316074819]] 20101130 22:17:17< Crab_> yes, everything related to StandardLocationFilter and StandardUserFilter (except value) 20101130 22:17:39< _reid_> ok that helps a lot. 20101130 22:17:41< Crab_> http://wesnoth.org/wiki/StandardLocationFilter , http://wesnoth.org/wiki/StandardUnitFilter 20101130 22:19:51-!- afk|eoc is now known as eoc 20101130 22:21:27-!- Elvish_Pillage2 [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 22:28:11< Grimling> Crab_: can you give a sign when you've debugged the code, please? 20101130 22:28:20< Crab_> k 20101130 22:28:46< _reid_> Crab_: http://pastebin.com/zYpWSVpS 20101130 22:42:08-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 22:52:22-!- bouncy93 [~pc@93.155.150.1] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 22:52:59-!- xenocratus01 [xenocratus@79.117.35.26] has quit [] 20101130 22:53:14-!- PeterPorty [~Pete@pc-163-112-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 22:58:04< bouncy93> is there anybody from the Google Code-In competition 20101130 22:58:09-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20101130 22:58:23< Grimling> Crab ^ 20101130 22:58:29< Grimling> Crab_ ^ 20101130 22:58:48< Crab_> bouncy93: I'm one of the mentors/administrators 20101130 22:58:52< Crab_> Grimling: thanks 20101130 22:58:56< bouncy93> aha 20101130 22:59:10< bouncy93> hmm i want to claim for one of your tasks 20101130 22:59:24< bouncy93> i mean i claimed for it already 20101130 22:59:41< Crab_> if you need me to accept something, post a link 20101130 22:59:59< bouncy93> but i'm awaiting for claim acception 20101130 23:00:04< Crab_> (I generally accept all pending tasks 1-2 times per day, but send me a link if you want me to accept it now) 20101130 23:00:18< bouncy93> ok hold on 20101130 23:00:28< bouncy93> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129047233078 20101130 23:01:23< bouncy93> i claimed for it before 8-9 hours and i didn't get response so i was wondering if there is any problem.. 20101130 23:01:24< Crab_> bouncy93: done 20101130 23:01:33< bouncy93> thanks 20101130 23:01:46< bouncy93> it seems the task is very interesting 20101130 23:01:55< bouncy93> if i have any questions 20101130 23:02:03< bouncy93> can i use you :) 20101130 23:02:19< bouncy93> or some of the other mentors 20101130 23:02:25< bouncy93> or some of the other mentors 20101130 23:04:44< boucman> bouncy93: even when Crab_ isn't around, you can ask here, anybody with the knowledge will try to answer 20101130 23:05:17< Crab_> bouncy93: yes, surely 20101130 23:05:52< bouncy93> ok thanks alot i am handling the task right now 20101130 23:06:05< bouncy93> bye for now 20101130 23:06:13< Crab_> bye ) 20101130 23:06:17-!- bouncy93 [~pc@93.155.150.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101130 23:06:50< _reid_> Crab_: am I all good? http://pastebin.com/zYpWSVpS 20101130 23:12:21< Crab_> _reid_: looks quite good. but I doubt about some of protect_unit tags, they look strange to me (e.g.,         [goal]                 name=protect_unit                value=2         [/goal] is very strange - no criteria, so it's 'protect everything'? strange. 20101130 23:12:43< Crab_> _reid_: the results are to be either in the diff form (svn diff) or in the form of archive with all the modified scenario files. 20101130 23:12:53< Crab_> _reid_: so far, your syntax is correct. 20101130 23:13:43< Crab_> _reid_: but, I have to look at the old files to see if the conversion was correct., so recheck those strange protect_unit tags, and submit the results, and I'll check them and most likely accept, even if there are small glitches left. 20101130 23:14:10< _reid_> tags with no criteria (name=) used to be [target], that's what the wiki said. 20101130 23:15:00< Crab_> yes, but if it was target tags, why they have name=protect_unit ? 20101130 23:16:11< _reid_> then it used to be [protect_unit] 20101130 23:16:19< Crab_> _reid_: for example, here's one of the errors 20101130 23:16:33< Crab_> it was in scenario 6 20101130 23:16:36< Crab_> [protect_unit] id=Drogan value=2 [/protect_unit] 20101130 23:16:45< Crab_> it became: [goal]                 name=protect_unit                 value=2         [/goal] 20101130 23:17:04< Crab_> as you see, criteria (id=Drogan) disappeared 20101130 23:17:26< Crab_> so, recheck those, just in case, there are more errors like that. 20101130 23:18:15< _reid_> oh that's not good, ill check my code. 20101130 23:18:50< Crab_> yes. but it's almost ok, there's only some errors like that, that should be easy to fix and it's finished (submit as diff or as zip archive with changed files) 20101130 23:19:54< _reid_> ok fixed it. 20101130 23:20:16< Crab_> good, so, check it and then submit 20101130 23:20:42< _reid_> as a patch right? 20101130 23:20:54< Crab_> patch or an archive with all the files 20101130 23:21:03< Crab_> whatever is easier for you 20101130 23:24:30-!- Bocom_ [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 23:24:40-!- KUMM [~chatzilla@h59ec01de.seluldx.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20101130 23:26:12-!- Bocom [~Bocom@c-8dcde255.013-31-6b736412.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101130 23:26:22-!- Aurora_ [48df48f0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.223.72.240] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 23:28:29-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20101130 23:28:40-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 23:28:57< Crab_> _reid_: note: you can/should submit files via google's task tracker 20101130 23:29:07-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit [Client Quit] 20101130 23:29:25-!- KUMM [~chatzilla@h59ec01de.seluldx.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 23:30:39< _reid_> ok 20101130 23:32:20-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20101130 23:33:30-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 23:35:32< _reid_> Thats just the dialogue on my claim page, correct? 20101130 23:37:16< Grimling> _reid_: yes, when you choose submit work, you can upload files 20101130 23:39:12< _reid_> Ok, done! http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129042237239 20101130 23:41:30-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20101130 23:42:39-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-038.mycingular.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 23:42:55-!- bouncy93 [~pc@93.155.150.1] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 23:43:14< bouncy93> Hi 20101130 23:43:26-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 23:43:52< bouncy93> I downloaded the game and extracted it 20101130 23:44:07< bouncy93> But I cant find how to run it 20101130 23:44:33< bouncy93> There are so many src codes, and how can i play it 20101130 23:45:07< shadowmaster> bouncy93: Windows? 20101130 23:45:17< bouncy93> Linux ubuntu 20101130 23:45:30-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.62.126] has quit [Client Quit] 20101130 23:45:41< shadowmaster> either take a look at INSTALL for instructions on compiling from source, or get binaries for your distribution 20101130 23:46:04< shadowmaster> I hear that Ubuntu 10.04 and later have wesnoth-1.8 in the repositories with that name 20101130 23:46:37< bouncy93> actually i downloaded 1.9.2 20101130 23:46:57< bouncy93> but i think that isn't a problem 20101130 23:47:09< bouncy93> and 20101130 23:47:21< bouncy93> where can i find binaries for ubuntu 20101130 23:48:34< shadowmaster> for the dev versions, I don't know. Unless there are PPAs out there with them I guess the best option is compiling from source (it's not too difficult, n fact it's far easier on Debian-based distributions such as Ubuntu) 20101130 23:49:22< bouncy93> ok i'll try it this way 20101130 23:53:04-!- GNUtoo|laptop [~gnutoo@host31-144-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.] 20101130 23:54:17-!- Upth [ogmar@adsl-75-26-196-103.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101130 23:54:17-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20101130 23:57:39-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@vpw.wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Wed Dec 01 00:00:37 2010