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20101118 04:48:55< shadowmaster> esr: had fun?
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20101118 04:49:22< esr> shadowmaster: Ah, you've been reading my blog, I gather
20101118 04:49:41< shadowmaster> of course, one of my comments was also lost after the rollback
20101118 04:50:26< shadowmaster> and I also get timely updates from your blog and a few other sources of my interest with akregator
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20101118 19:12:41< fendrin> esr: ping
20101118 19:30:10< esr> fendrin: What's up?
20101118 19:30:19< fendrin> Hi esr.
20101118 19:30:35< fendrin> Have you read the feedback to WoV?
20101118 19:30:45< fendrin> http://forums.wesnoth.org/posting.php?mode=quote&f=31&p=465231
20101118 19:30:56< fendrin> It seems players are going to like the story.
20101118 19:31:27< fendrin> What didn't hit me as a big surprise...
20101118 19:33:07< fendrin> I wonder about our time plan. Getting it into mainline during the 1.9 release cycle is still in question but will need some work soon.
20101118 19:33:09< fendrin> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=32018
20101118 19:33:39< fendrin> The first link is bullshit, I was doing a post, most likely invalid for other users than me.
20101118 19:34:17< timotei> fendrin: it was showed as editing for me. so not invalid :P
20101118 19:34:40< Gambit> timotei: it's opening you a new post that is quoting the old one
20101118 19:35:02< timotei> Gambit: yeah
20101118 19:35:22< fendrin> I see.
20101118 19:38:16< fendrin> I think it is worthwhile to consider the inclusion of the Armagedon Drake as a lvl 4 advancement for the burner line, including the protagonist Galun. At least if he will stay a member of the burner caste.
20101118 19:38:30< fendrin> Like a commenter suggested.
20101118 19:42:53< esr> fendrin: Doesn't seem unreasonable.  Or the L4 could have those stats and be "Dragon".  One of the possible ends for the campaign is that Galun wins big enough to trigger the metamorphosis to the draconic adult form ogf the neotenous drakes.
20101118 19:44:27< fendrin> Sounds ambitious. The story will need to support that event.
20101118 19:45:39< fendrin> Maybe with a task to fulfill, we might consider it having its own subplot with at least one scenario dedicated to the metamorphosis.  
20101118 19:46:38< fendrin> Having him simply do the thing with a single message seems a bit cheep for getting a unit that covers 7 hex fields with the newly commited artwork.
20101118 19:47:33< esr> fendrin: Your missing the forest for the trees.  Galun has, in effect, seized an entire *continent* for his descendants. The last time any drake scored a victory that huge will have been lost in their history. 
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20101118 20:10:21< fendrin> esr: Do you have a storyline for him getting a dragon in mind?
20101118 20:11:42 * zookeeper would think getting to armageddon drake would be enough of a metamorphosis
20101118 20:12:26< esr> Roughly. The transformation would happen after they establish the new keep - Galun falls into a deep sleep (normal for drakes, remember they spend a lot of time cataleptic) and begins to change to a form none of the drakes have ever seen.
20101118 20:13:18< esr> The 7-hex thing he'd need time to grow into that the campaign probably won't span.
20101118 20:15:45< fendrin> From a lvl4 armagedon drake into dragon lvl5?
20101118 20:16:20< esr> Possible. Are any other campaigns using the Armageddon?
20101118 20:17:26< zookeeper> not really. there's one in HttT but it's in the semi-hidden incomplete branch.
20101118 20:19:13< esr> I think we have our contnuity, then.  Once every 500 years seems about right :-)
20101118 20:23:38< fendrin> But the transformation is just out of himself?
20101118 20:23:57< fendrin> There is nothing to find or to do for him before the sleep that triggers it?
20101118 20:27:34< fendrin> And what will happen if Galun didn't reach lvl4 before the sleep?
20101118 20:34:36< fendrin> Another scenario with being him at a certain stage as victory conditions will solve that.
20101118 20:39:10< fendrin> When will Galun transform? Certainly in the later part of the campaign but giving the player the unit for 5 minutes is not a good idea.
20101118 20:39:50< fendrin> The Armageddon Drake does more fire breath damage than the Dragon.
20101118 20:40:49< zookeeper> it likely has somewhat overpowered stats if you ask me
20101118 20:41:53< fendrin> Yes, at least compared to the dragon. Only 3 more hitpoints.
20101118 21:06:56< fendrin> esr: The map to scenario 7. Against elves and woses. I have started coding the scenario but we don't have a map. 
20101118 21:07:13< fendrin> That is inside of wesmere forest.
20101118 21:08:31< esr> Ah, right.  I should dop that.
20101118 21:09:09< fendrin> esr: Scenario one, it is a bit strange that humans battle with the animals.
20101118 21:09:17< fendrin> It feels wrong.
20101118 21:09:28< esr> They're not battling, they're *hunting*.  For food.
20101118 21:09:48< esr> That was my idea, anyway.
20101118 21:09:56< fendrin> The idea is good.
20101118 21:10:28< fendrin> But during the first few turns the animals and humans just go after each other like mad.
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20101118 21:10:38< AI0867> yeah, but the fact that they fight to the death is a bit strange
20101118 21:10:56< AI0867> a candidate action to retreat the wounded should probably be added
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20101118 21:11:16< fendrin> I would like to have a AI for animals that are prey.
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20101118 21:11:23< fendrin> And one for predators.
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20101118 21:28:43< fendrin> esr: scenario6 scuttlers. The story talks about walking trees but there are only saurians on the map. Do you like to add woses or alter the story text?
20101118 21:29:46< esr> Ah, the text is out of date. I ended up saving the woses for the next scenario.
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20101118 21:45:05<+CIA-44> wesnoth-umc-dev: Added music to the scenario.
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20101118 23:37:13< Espreon> Heh, I had that for a long time...
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20101118 23:53:54<+janebot> Ow
20101118 23:54:42<+CIA-44> ow
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20101118 23:57:34< Gambit> no
20101118 23:57:38< Gambit> err wrong program
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