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20101103 03:44:07< ancestral> shadowmaster: Not a huge deal, but http://www.wesnoth.org/forums 20101103 03:44:32< VurtualRuler98> Oh no, the forums are missing. 20101103 03:44:41< shadowmaster> ancestral: forums.wesnoth.org should be used. 20101103 03:45:01< shadowmaster> the direct URL is http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/, but we want you to use forums.wesnoth.org 20101103 03:45:04< ancestral> or forum.wesnoth.org or wesnoth.org/forum but not wesnoth.org/forums :-P 20101103 03:45:23< ancestral> Got that, everyone? 20101103 03:46:04< shadowmaster> if you'd ask me, "forum.wesnoth.org" should die and /forum should be hidden from the public and reirected to forums.wesnoth.org so no broken browsers get confused in regards to cookie settings in the future 20101103 03:46:35< ancestral> I'd support that 20101103 03:46:56< ancestral> I'm curious, do most people around here call it the forum or the forums? 20101103 03:47:16< C27> It's a single forum. 20101103 03:47:20< C27> Right? 20101103 03:47:42< shadowmaster> no 20101103 03:47:49< shadowmaster> it's a board, with multiple forums. 20101103 03:48:06< shadowmaster> some of those forums have subforums (the case of the Feedback forums) 20101103 03:48:14< C27> It's a forum board with multiple subforums. 20101103 03:48:19< C27> Agh. 20101103 03:48:22< C27> Semantics. 20101103 03:48:22< VurtualRuler98> So we can call it the board then. 20101103 03:48:42< shadowmaster> no, we call it whatever the admin calls it at the moment. 20101103 03:48:42< ancestral> The board? 20101103 03:48:43< C27> It's a board that is a forum, as opposed to boards that are not 20101103 03:48:51< ancestral> http://www.wesnoth.org/board ? 20101103 03:48:59< VurtualRuler98> Or "a board", unless someone insists "an board" 20101103 03:49:05< shadowmaster> the admin usually calls it "the forums". 20101103 03:49:05< C27> unless imageboards or usenet count as forums as well as boards too 20101103 03:49:24< shadowmaster> and the admin is reading this conversation right now and he's not amused. 20101103 03:49:36< ancestral> Is he also talking in third person? 20101103 03:49:41< shadowmaster> yes 20101103 03:49:42< Gambit> the foræ 20101103 03:49:43< C27> Then he can correct us and set things straight. 20101103 03:49:46< VurtualRuler98> That makes it sound so organized, like it's a catch-all term for a bunch of things. 20101103 03:49:48< C27> Or just permaban me. 20101103 03:50:03< Gambit> ancestral: I call it a forum 20101103 03:50:10< Gambit> with subforums like off-topic 20101103 03:50:13< shadowmaster> I say this is as ridiculous as "elven" vs. "elvish" 20101103 03:50:14< Gambit> but apparently that's wrong or something 20101103 03:50:19< ancestral> I inconsistently call it both 20101103 03:50:20< C27> (from IRC, I'm not even registered on the forums) 20101103 03:50:32< C27> the forum* 20101103 03:50:34< C27> lol 20101103 03:50:44< VurtualRuler98> I call it "that thing which isn't IRC", because I made one post in five years on any forum ever. 20101103 03:51:06< Gambit> shadowmaster started the recession 20101103 03:51:08< shadowmaster> whenever I mention it in my blog it's "the Wesnoth.org forums", or "the Wesnoth.org community board" 20101103 03:51:14< VurtualRuler98> And before that, about 10 more, outright, and that's it. 20101103 03:51:16< C27> I'm active on other ones, but generally three separate ones at a time is all I can concentrate on anyway 20101103 03:51:16< ancestral> One way to solve this (though I don't The Admin will appreciate it) would be to give it an awesome cool name 20101103 03:51:31< shadowmaster> and I refer to individual sections as "the XYZ forum", for example, the Users' forum 20101103 03:51:31 * VurtualRuler98 opens tvtropes for names 20101103 03:51:37< shadowmaster> or the Off-Topic forum 20101103 03:51:49< Gambit> Offtopic subforum 20101103 03:51:53< Gambit> Users Forum subforum 20101103 03:51:54< Gambit> :o 20101103 03:51:54< ancestral> Much like Wikipedia/Wikimedia has the Village Pump 20101103 03:52:38< ancestral> Now, it is a "subforum" and not "sub-forum"; I ask because "subforum" doesn't pass my spellchecker 20101103 03:52:40< Gambit> ancestral: I uh... rehijacked your thread 20101103 03:52:44< Gambit> since the elections are over 20101103 03:52:51< VurtualRuler98> "Gory Deadly Overkill Board Of Fatal Death"? 20101103 03:52:57< Mahuloq> So this game is like star craft right....right guys? =3 20101103 03:53:01< Gambit> Thank whatever god you believe in Christine O'Donnell lost 20101103 03:53:20< Gambit> janebot: What does Mrs. O'Donnell have to say about her loss? 20101103 03:53:20< janebot> Gambit: "America is now a socialist economy. The definition of a socialist economy is when 50% or more of your economy is dependent on the federal government." - Christine O'Donnell 20101103 03:53:24< shadowmaster> Mahuloq: depends on how you want to look at it. 20101103 03:53:25< VurtualRuler98> If starcraft was turn based, not strategic, and about really weird random numbers that isn't quite d20 and isn't quite SPECIAL, then yes. 20101103 03:53:40< Gambit> And she's an english major so she would know. 20101103 03:53:43< Gambit> xD 20101103 03:53:46< shadowmaster> is it real time? no 20101103 03:53:50< shadowmaster> is it a strategy game? yes 20101103 03:54:02< shadowmaster> is it a sci-fi game? no 20101103 03:54:05< shadowmaster> is it paid? no 20101103 03:54:12< VurtualRuler98> Add some narmy writing and you've got wesnoth. 20101103 03:54:13< Mahuloq> Is it awesome? 20101103 03:54:29< shadowmaster> Mahuloq: that's too subjective to be listed. 20101103 03:54:33< shadowmaster> ;) 20101103 03:54:39< VurtualRuler98> It is not known for injecting "awe", no. 20101103 03:54:40< Mahuloq> the enthusiasm is palpable, their was supposed to be like 5 people yell yes. 20101103 03:55:55< shadowmaster> Gambit: say it's awesome. 20101103 03:56:44< C27> Pssh. 20101103 03:56:47< C27> It's awesome. 20101103 03:57:03< Mahuloq> I got attracted since the unit art reminded me of poxnora =P 20101103 03:57:05< C27> Starcraft was a good game too, yes, but wesnoth is good in a different way. 20101103 03:57:27< VurtualRuler98> The unit art reminds me of final fantasy I, but I cannot say why. 20101103 03:57:29< C27> Wesnoth is closer to an old-school board wargame. 20101103 03:57:55< VurtualRuler98> It's eerie, like how runescape used to look like fallout 1 and 2. 20101103 03:57:56< C27> But not as insanely detailed as some board wargames 20101103 03:58:01< Mahuloq> Flames of War? 20101103 03:59:18< Mahuloq> ahh, well. Well see how easily I get destroyed. Thats always the fun part. 20101103 04:00:19< Mahuloq> I will say its a surprise to see humans not on the good side for once/ not with the elves and dwarves 20101103 04:02:15< VurtualRuler98> Everybody hates eachother because that allows more combinations of sides fighting. 20101103 04:02:46< VurtualRuler98> Versus say, DF hating-of-eachother where your ideals and ethics clash enough to result in easy warfare. 20101103 04:09:02-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-176-19.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20101103 04:15:58< Gambit> janebot: What would Anthony Weiner say about Wesnoth? 20101103 04:15:59< janebot> Gambit: "I will not yield!" - Anthony Weiner 20101103 04:16:11< Gambit> Well that makes no sense at all. 20101103 04:16:43< Gambit> Mahuloq: But yes it's awesome 20101103 04:16:52< Gambit> And as you can clearly see the community is even awesomer :o 20101103 04:16:57< C27> He would play like me and refuse to retreat when the time of day goes bad :p 20101103 04:17:39< C27> I'm not so bad about it anymore 20101103 04:17:40< Gambit> Oh I get it. 20101103 04:17:56< C27> but I'm still stubborn about yeilding territory 20101103 04:17:56< Gambit> Anthony Weiner plays wesnoth 20101103 04:17:58< Mahuloq> Sir, weve only lost about 10 men, but if we dont retreat now, well lose them all. "Only loss 10 men you say! Brilliant, make our remaining men charge their position!" But sir, they have a moat. "Well arnt they special, charge!" 20101103 04:17:58< Gambit> clearly it's awesome 20101103 04:18:11< C27> :D 20101103 04:19:20< Gambit> Mahuloq: If you said that to him he'd say 20101103 04:19:23< Gambit> THE GENTLEMAN IS WRONG 20101103 04:19:28< Gambit> I WILL NOT YIELD 20101103 04:19:45< Gambit> THE GENTLEMAN WILL SIT 20101103 04:19:51< Gambit> THE GENTLEMAN WILL OBSERVE REGULAR ORDER 20101103 04:19:53< Mahuloq> well Pheonix Wright also plays this game, and you know what he would say, OBJECTION! 20101103 04:19:57< Mahuloq> *finger point( 20101103 04:20:49< Gambit> janebot: What would John Mccaine say if you told him to retreat? 20101103 04:20:50< janebot> Gambit: "It's not the policy. It's not the policy. It's not the policy. It's not the policy." - John Mccain 20101103 04:21:18< VurtualRuler98> Developers developers developers developers? 20101103 04:23:17 * C27 wonders if I should actually fire up wesnoth and play for once 20101103 04:23:31< C27> I feel like pulling a Four Horesmen on someone 20101103 04:23:40< VurtualRuler98> a what 20101103 04:24:02< C27> On a small map, recruit four horsemen and charge the enemy leader 20101103 04:24:16< C27> sometimes it works 20101103 04:24:34< C27> last time I tried it it failed pretty bad, but I still pulled off a win somehow 20101103 04:24:46< C27> just... not as quickly as I'd hoped :p 20101103 04:30:37< VurtualRuler98> No, get a big map, vs drakes, as loyalists, lure them in with a sense of bad play, then suddenly, out of fog, have 270 or so spearmen in hiding. 20101103 04:30:54< VurtualRuler98> Bonus if their leader, of any faction, is spearheading the attack against your apparent 1-calvary 1-bowman defense. 20101103 04:36:38-!- Ivanovic_ 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