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20101201 00:03:04< _reid_> any devs on here?
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20101201 00:08:06< noy> _reid_: yes?
20101201 00:08:25< _reid_> are you a GCI mentor?
20101201 00:08:35< noy> I run the program. 
20101201 00:08:41< noy> or the adminstrator
20101201 00:09:54< _reid_> Could you please review my submission, http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129042237239
20101201 00:10:50< noy> I can look at it and give you some pointers, but I can't review it
20101201 00:11:20< boucman> you probably want crab to review it
20101201 00:11:21< _reid_> aw, its all good to go.
20101201 00:11:29< boucman> night all
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20101201 00:11:56< noy> _reid_: well I'm not the person who can do it
20101201 00:12:20< _reid_> it's cool, i'll wait for crab_
20101201 00:12:30< noy> _reid_: he's also been assigned as your mentor
20101201 00:13:03< noy> you probably won't catch him till tomorrow morning
20101201 00:13:11< noy> because he should be asleep by now
20101201 00:13:19< noy> But good on you for trying this task
20101201 00:13:23< noy> I hope to see you take on more later
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20101201 00:15:48< _reid_> noy: ok thank you.
20101201 00:19:25< _reid_> I don't mean to seem pushy, i'm just trying to claim another task.
20101201 00:20:02< shadowmaster> http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/11/30/2134203/GNU-Savannah-Site-Compromised
20101201 00:20:16< shadowmaster> a little bird threw this link at me and I thought I'd share ;)
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20101201 01:20:34< eleazzaar> zookeeper, shadowmaster, mordante: I'm going into a busy phase.  I probably won't respond to IRC for the month of december.  I can still be reached by forum PMs and less quickly by posting in one of my threads.
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20101201 01:58:27< stikonas> shadowmaster: that is a bad news...
20101201 02:02:25 * stikonas hopes that he didn't have an account on Savannah
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20101201 10:03:18< zookeeper> the description of heals says "Allows the unit to heal adjacent allied units at the beginning of our turn.", i guess that should be "your turn"
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20101201 10:30:50< Soliton> "the healer's turn"?
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20101201 10:58:45< Ivanovic> moin
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20101201 11:47:05< phao> Do you guys have any website on creating graphics this game uses? Graphics like it I mean.
20101201 11:48:08< phao> I'm interested in learning how to create graphics of that kind, for games. And the graphics of this game are really nice
20101201 11:50:19< zookeeper> phao, check http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Create_Art
20101201 11:50:27< phao> thx.
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20101201 13:08:56< xenocratus> Crab_: are you here?
20101201 13:09:07< Crab_> yes
20101201 13:09:36< xenocratus> do you have time to check my submission now or should i come back later? 
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20101201 13:21:24< Grimling> Crab_: have you already debugged the code?
20101201 13:21:47< Crab_> xenocratus: please give me the link
20101201 13:22:03< Crab_> Grimling: no, haven't yet, but definitely going to finish it today.
20101201 13:22:35< Grimling> Crab_: can you then give me more time for the task? the deadline is today 12.45 i think
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20101201 13:23:12< Crab_> Grimling: surely. Submit anything as work, and I'll be able to extend the deadline (post the link here, please)
20101201 13:23:59< Grimling> I think I'll only be able to do this when the deadline is expired, in the extra day, so in about half an hour
20101201 13:24:37< Grimling> Crab_: or do i need to submit it as was it ready?
20101201 13:24:40< Crab_> no, you can submit work before the deadline
20101201 13:24:46< Crab_> submit your work-in-progress
20101201 13:24:59< Crab_> so, then google's system will allow me to extend the deadline with 'needs more work' action
20101201 13:25:43< Grimling> Crab_: ok
20101201 13:28:04< reid_> Crab_: I submitted my patch and everything seemed to work (wesnoth gave me no errors)
20101201 13:28:39< Crab_> reid_: yes, i've seen it
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20101201 13:29:50< Grimling> Crab_: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129060261811
20101201 13:30:11< xenocratus> Crab_: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129081428753
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20101201 13:31:54< Crab_> Grimling: ok, done
20101201 13:32:09< Grimling> Crab_: thanks
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20101201 13:37:47< Grimling> Crab_: have you seen what Soliton said about the comparison of units yesterday?
20101201 13:38:53< Crab_> Grimling: yes, he's right. and we might be able to deal with it in a later tasks
20101201 13:39:18< Crab_> but, as of now, we're reusing existing 'best unit' logic
20101201 13:43:34< Grimling> Crab_: do you have an idea of when you will have debugged the code?
20101201 13:43:57< Crab_> today in +10 to +11h
20101201 13:51:35< Crab_> xenocratus: please readd characters.cfg, you accidentially uploaded it as rtf
20101201 13:56:21< xenocratus> Crab_: sorry, i've noticed now. should i upload it again? i ran the game with the new files and it seems that {PLAYER_SETUP} isn't defined in TSG
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20101201 14:19:39< xenocratus> Crab_: should i insert 'if's wherever the type of the hero is {QUANTITY type ...}? 
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20101201 14:27:33< Crab_> xenocratus: no. it should be ON_DIFFICULTY, most likely
20101201 14:28:14< xenocratus> {type {ON_DIFFICULTY ...}}?
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20101201 14:57:36< Crab_> xenocratus: something like that
20101201 14:57:48< xenocratus> Crab_: i have to go and will be back later. i'll upload the files again, with a few changes made. if there are many mistakes or if you can't finish checking it, can you extend the deadline?
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20101201 14:58:35< Crab_> if you upload at least something, you won't 'fail' if the deadline is over - I will be able to review your work and extend the deadline.
20101201 14:58:45< Crab_> so, be sure that *something* is uploaded.
20101201 15:01:10< xenocratus> ok, thanks :) 
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20101201 17:32:52< stikonas> Ivanovic: hi, somebody from Bulgaria wants to translate Wesnoth as part of CGI
20101201 17:33:06< stikonas> Maybe bulgarian translation coordinator would be interested
20101201 17:33:40< Ivanovic> stikonas: there seems to be no active bulgarian coordinator
20101201 17:33:47< Ivanovic> so we have no way to check if the work is really done
20101201 17:33:57< Ivanovic> without a maintainer, it is not possible to add the tasks
20101201 17:37:34< Grimling> Ivanovic: will there be translation tasks for the GCI?
20101201 17:38:26< stikonas> Grimling: there are :)
20101201 17:38:57< Grimling> stikonas: Now I see only one
20101201 17:39:01< stikonas> and somebody even claimed it, but then disappeared, so it is open again
20101201 17:39:47< Grimling> will there be a translation task for Dutch as well?
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20101201 18:06:33< Ivanovic> AI0867: since you are the de-facto maintainer for dutch: what do you think of adding dutch translation tasks to the tracker?
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20101201 18:06:52< Ivanovic> (as well as mentoring (aka correcting) them)
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20101201 18:10:29< ZumZoom> Hi
20101201 18:10:46< ZumZoom> Is there smb responsible for gci tasks?
20101201 18:11:20< iwontbecreative> They are many people
20101201 18:11:29< iwontbecreative> What's your task ?
20101201 18:11:55< fendrin> hi ZumZoom.
20101201 18:12:35< fendrin> ZumZoom: About gci you can talk with Ivanovic, crab_ and boucman
20101201 18:12:43< Ivanovic> huh?
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20101201 18:13:05< Ivanovic> ZumZoom: you should just ask your question and wait for a reply, eventually someone will answer
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20101201 18:16:50< ZumZoom> Sry, was afk :)
20101201 18:17:35< ZumZoom> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129042216533
20101201 18:18:09< Ivanovic> ZumZoom: crab_ should be able to help you
20101201 18:19:08< ZumZoom> will he be onlne soon?
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20101201 18:26:02< AI0867> Ivanovic: sounds reasonable. If you can make a post in the forum topic (so all at-least-somewhat-active translators know), we should be able to take care of the rest
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20101201 18:26:19< AI0867> I can probably review them myself
20101201 18:27:21< anonymissimus> zookeeper: do you want to fix that SoF bug ?
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20101201 18:29:25< zookeeper> anonymissimus, yeah, i'll fix it
20101201 18:29:36< anonymissimus> ok
20101201 18:30:30< zookeeper> btw, i fixed the ON_SIGHTING call in SotBE which had the units reversed; i didn't really feel like changing the whole macro...
20101201 18:30:40< anonymissimus> too bad that 1.8.6 isn't going to be released
20101201 18:31:02< anonymissimus> you will regret it I guess
20101201 18:31:24< zookeeper> maybe :p
20101201 18:31:27< anonymissimus> when you convert some other sighted event the mistake will happen again
20101201 18:31:43< anonymissimus> (it woul if I did I guess)
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20101201 18:45:53< Ivanovic> AI0867: you got an account at GCI?
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20101201 19:08:45< boucman> hey all
20101201 19:08:52< boucman> fendrin: you were looking for me ?
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20101201 20:08:00< zookeeper> anonymissimus, i wonder if we should have a simple macro like {LUA ( luacode )} so you wouldn't need to write the [lua] code= << >> [/lua] stuff all the time.
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20101201 20:10:36< anonymissimus> zookeeper: usefullness is questionable
20101201 20:10:59< anonymissimus> mostly you define tags; and in a [lua] tah you obnly load files 
20101201 20:11:11< anonymissimus> sorry for my spelling :P
20101201 20:11:46 * zookeeper blinks
20101201 20:11:48< zookeeper> only load files?
20101201 20:12:02< anonymissimus> me yes
20101201 20:12:11< anonymissimus> unless it is a very short simple lua code
20101201 20:12:34< zookeeper> yeah, well, i intended it for those short simple lua code blocks you might have in an event
20101201 20:13:05< anonymissimus> because putting lua code into [lua]  tags causes it to be preprocessed, meaning that you lose the biggest advantage of lua, the fast testing without scenario reload
20101201 20:13:31< shadowmaster> undocumented advantage
20101201 20:13:42< shadowmaster> I imagined they'd be cached or something
20101201 20:13:50< anonymissimus> there aren't many since lua comes useful mainly for the mroe complex tasks
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20101201 20:15:06< anonymissimus> shadowmaster: you didn't know ? I have a certain right-click menu which is only visible in debug mode; it makes reloading and testing lua code a matter of a second :)
20101201 20:17:11< anonymissimus> i have this macro http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/Cv7e8MvR but I decided to no longer use it
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20101201 20:22:25< zookeeper> right
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20101201 21:31:36< bouncy93> any admin/mentor?
20101201 21:32:15< bouncy93> i need some help for Google Code-In
20101201 21:33:22< boucman> bouncy93: please ash your question
20101201 21:33:29< boucman> ask
20101201 21:33:32< Mussious> Is wesnoth in code-in?
20101201 21:33:37< boucman> yes it
20101201 21:33:39< boucman> is
20101201 21:33:51< boucman> damnit, I can't seem to be able to type tonight...
20101201 21:33:53< Mussious> oh, i didn't know
20101201 21:34:13< boucman> it's our first year, we didn't advertise it much...
20101201 21:34:46< bouncy93> hmm I want to find out that if i understand my task properly
20101201 21:34:59< bouncy93> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129047233078
20101201 21:35:03< bouncy93> this is my task
20101201 21:35:10< bouncy93> so 
20101201 21:35:29< bouncy93> i have to play the Orcish Incursion campaign on Normal (***) difficulty 
20101201 21:35:45< boucman> yes
20101201 21:36:01< bouncy93> then i have to report all bugs in everyone scenario here http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GCI/Playtesting/An_Orcish_Incursion/Normal
20101201 21:36:17< bouncy93> every* not everyone
20101201 21:36:40< boucman> yes, that's it
20101201 21:36:50< bouncy93> and the final result must be something like this http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GCI/Playtesting/Son_of_the_Black_Eye/Challenging
20101201 21:37:37< bouncy93> of course for my campaign
20101201 21:38:08< boucman> yes, you can also provide savegames, esp if you encounter bugs, it might help us reproduce
20101201 21:38:19< bouncy93> aham 
20101201 21:38:25< boucman> (not sure how to provide the savefile, though, maybe attach to a bug report)
20101201 21:38:40< bouncy93> i have to play 1.9.2, right
20101201 21:39:00< boucman> yes, the latest dev version
20101201 21:39:13< bouncy93> okay
20101201 21:39:54< bouncy93> and is there any opportunity if i cant complete the task on time 
20101201 21:40:19< bouncy93> to give me some time
20101201 21:40:57< bouncy93> it's 5 days but who knows...
20101201 21:41:06< boucman> not sure how it works, crab has handled most of GCI so far, my guess is that it might be possible to reclaim, but no promises
20101201 21:41:45< bouncy93> okay 
20101201 21:41:49< bouncy93> thanks alot
20101201 21:42:01< Mussious> good luck!
20101201 21:42:08< bouncy93> thanks :) 
20101201 21:42:10< bouncy93> bye
20101201 21:42:18< bouncy93> for now
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20101201 21:50:55< Mussious> Will there be any new version of stable branch? (I'm just curious)
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20101201 21:51:50< boucman> Mussious: not sure, we have no pressing bugs, so it would be only for better translations... it's for Ivanovic to decide
20101201 21:55:35< Ivanovic> in theory i'd like to not release another 1.8.x release simply because it should be okay as it is
20101201 21:56:01< Ivanovic> though several translation teams have spent some work on 1.8.x anyway, so there might be a "really last" 1.8.x release close to christmas
20101201 21:56:38< Ivanovic> boucman: you wanted to write a mail to the i18n list explainaing how to get tasks added to the gci tracker
20101201 21:57:15< Mussious> And when is planned the change 1.9 to stable?
20101201 21:57:29< Ivanovic> not sure yet *at all*
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20101201 22:01:37< boucman> Ivanovic: yes I havn't thought much more about it, i'll probably do it this WE
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20101201 22:16:54< Ivanovic> boucman: okay, thanks
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