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20101204 16:47:42-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB09.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 16:52:18< iwontbecreative> Am I wrong or they are only 2 more CGI's task for wesnoth ? 20101204 16:52:27< iwontbecreative> Tasks that no one is working on I mean 20101204 16:55:09< boucman> you people are too fast for us :P 20101204 16:56:09-!- Mussious [~kamil@dga93.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 16:56:41< xenocratus01> does anyone have in plan adding some more tasks? 20101204 16:56:46< iwontbecreative> That's nice :) 20101204 16:57:04< boucman> xenocratus01: we are a bit short of ideas, but feel free to suggest :P 20101204 16:57:14< iwontbecreative> Espreon: Did you already mp that guy about manual tasks ? 20101204 16:57:35< boucman> more seriously, we are looking at translation tasks (there havn't been many so far) but it will take a little time 20101204 16:58:54< Mussious> i don't reckon that espreon will respond :) 20101204 16:59:30< iwontbecreative> Thanks for the info 20101204 16:59:38< iwontbecreative> boucman: Maybe some wiki tasks ? 20101204 16:59:58< iwontbecreative> The wiki has really many parts outdated that could be removed/updated 20101204 17:00:29< Mussious> i.e this with cartography 20101204 17:00:35< boucman> hmm, i'm not sure how to make a task out of that (how to define what is to be done) but that sounds interesting 20101204 17:03:03-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 17:03:52< Ivanovic> hi 20101204 17:04:15< iwontbecreative> hi 20101204 17:04:17< Mussious> hi 20101204 17:04:19< boucman> hey Ivanovic, writing the i18n mail as we wepak 20101204 17:04:33< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: if you list explicit tasks (like "update the pages ABC to match XYZ" it would make adding tasks a whole lot easier and probabl happen faster 20101204 17:04:35< Ivanovic> ;) 20101204 17:05:13< iwontbecreative> I don't really wanted to update the wiki ;) 20101204 17:05:21< iwontbecreative> Just wanted to give ideas :P 20101204 17:07:58< xenocratus01> it would be an ideea to "expand" the game, if i may say so... by creating scenarios/heroes or so, but i think it's a little hard to manage such a thing 20101204 17:08:21< xenocratus01> especially through GCI 20101204 17:08:42< iwontbecreative> Btw, last link on this page is broken: http://units.wesnoth.org/ 20101204 17:09:05< iwontbecreative> I don't think there's a need of re-uploading it :P 20101204 17:09:12< boucman> what link ? 20101204 17:09:25< iwontbecreative> The Ipod one 20101204 17:10:38< boucman> not sure who put that there... 20101204 17:11:10< iwontbecreative> Me neither, but I guess it could be removed 20101204 17:19:04< xenocratus01> does anyone think that building a "volunteer campaign" is feasible? 20101204 17:19:17-!- vcap_ [~vcap@AReims-551-1-17-86.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 17:19:27< boucman> what do you mean ? 20101204 17:19:27< iwontbecreative> Not really... 20101204 17:20:36< Mussious> i don't know what do you mean too 20101204 17:21:14< xenocratus01> building a campaign from ground up through tasks. for example: one of the tasks consisting of a volunteer writing the code for several heroes 20101204 17:21:35< xenocratus01> or writing parts of scenarios 20101204 17:21:46< xenocratus01> maps.. 20101204 17:22:00-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-97-64.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101204 17:22:43< Mussious> i think no, because if someone wants do make something for wesnoth, he will make it on his own 20101204 17:26:16-!- Mussious [~kamil@dga93.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20101204 17:27:11< boucman> well, we don't really need more UMC campaign, and it doesn't really work well as a collaborative effort... the big part is writing a good story that will allow lots of battles, and that's hard to share... 20101204 17:28:57-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 190 bugs, 301 feature requests, 22 patches | logs: 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Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20101204 17:30:40< xenocratus01> yeah, the sharing part is the hard one.. but about those stories: why not make story-writing tasks? 20101204 17:32:17< xenocratus01> and after that, maybe grouping the good ideas and using them 20101204 17:32:23< iwontbecreative> There could be some writing tasks 20101204 17:32:34< iwontbecreative> But for races description and those things 20101204 17:33:09-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 17:40:53-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20101204 17:44:53< zookeeper> xenocratus01, no one's gonna write a campaign based on someone else's ideas 20101204 17:46:02< zookeeper> so, writing some kind of potential story ideas isn't going to be very useful. 20101204 17:48:24< iwontbecreative> Maybe there could be writing tasks for race or unit descriptions ? 20101204 17:48:43< zookeeper> yes 20101204 17:49:14< iwontbecreative> Like gryphs don't have any description 20101204 17:52:37< iwontbecreative> But I think there was a forum thread about that 20101204 17:52:52< iwontbecreative> Saurians, woses and wolves also don't have any description 20101204 17:54:07-!- eoc is now known as eoc|afk 20101204 18:07:54< fendrin> zookeeper: There is something wrong with httt. 20101204 18:09:01< fendrin> zookeeper: I have played it on EASY. The enemy on Isle of Anduin recruited a single unit in the first turn, 2 in the second. Before we crushed him in turn 8 he had not more than 6 units recruited. 20101204 18:25:00< zookeeper> fendrin, right 20101204 18:25:05< zookeeper> any idea why? 20101204 18:25:10< zookeeper> if not, then i'll look into it... 20101204 18:25:50< zookeeper> i think he's supposed to have low starting gold but a large income from all the villages, but maybe you can just rush him quickly 20101204 18:25:57< fendrin> zookeeper: I have not had a look at the code. But I guess the orc is meant to start with few gold but owns the ownership over all villages on that island. But the villages are all free. At list I 20101204 18:28:03< fendrin> Hmmm, yes. 20101204 18:28:18< zookeeper> huh? 20101204 18:28:22< fendrin> The code gives him a different starting villages radius depending on the difficult level. 20101204 18:28:37< zookeeper> oh, okay. maybe just needs to be better balanced then. 20101204 18:28:46-!- vcap_ is now known as vcap 20101204 18:38:19< fendrin> zookeeper: I guess the coder made the mistake and assumed that doubling the radius will double the amount of villages covered. 20101204 18:38:44-!- Bocom__ is now known as Bocom 20101204 18:41:52< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47780 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/scenarios/03_The_Isle_of_Alduin.cfg: Made the orc leader start with ownership of all villages on all difficulties. 20101204 18:46:26< zookeeper> hrhm, getting connection timed out on my second commit. 20101204 18:46:45< zookeeper> fendrin, anyway, it should be better now 20101204 18:48:04< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47781 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Updated the map, added an [allow_undo] and tweaked some [move_unit_fake] coordinates. 20101204 18:57:55-!- phlaem [~a@g231234008.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101204 19:00:12-!- El_Caballero [~saul@201.243.7.16] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 19:00:22< El_Caballero> hey brothers 20101204 19:00:49< El_Caballero> I could fix this bug. https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?17185 20101204 19:01:57< El_Caballero> How can I know if my solution follow the philosophy :-/ 20101204 19:08:47< Soliton> what would your solution be and what philosphy do you mean? 20101204 19:08:53-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 19:12:09< El_Caballero> It is just a modification of a if condition. 20101204 19:13:32< El_Caballero> The pholosophy is about the movement. When you have a unit with auto-movement, but It could not spend all its moves in the current turn, It was with the orb color red 20101204 19:14:00< El_Caballero> But, It must be color yellow. Because, It has moves in the current turn yet. 20101204 19:14:38< El_Caballero> I am so bad explaining. Maybe the bug's post can help to explain 20101204 19:19:10< El_Caballero> My solution just put the orb color yellow, because it must be yellow. 20101204 19:19:42-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 19:21:48< El_Caballero> ok. I am going to send my patch to patches.wesnoth. I hope it help us 20101204 19:21:49< El_Caballero> :) 20101204 19:24:33< iwontbecreative> Yeah i understand whay you mean 20101204 19:24:42< iwontbecreative> Already had this bug 20101204 19:28:31-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 19:32:42< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47782 /trunk/po/wesnoth-dw/es.po: updated Spanish translation 20101204 19:32:58< Soliton> what orb is shown when you press space on a unit? does it become red? 20101204 19:35:34-!- stikonas [~and@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [K-Lined] 20101204 19:37:02< El_Caballero> When you press space, the orb flip between yellow and red. But, the bug is not about that 20101204 19:37:13< Soliton> ok, the orb indeed becomes red so i'd rather change the description. 20101204 19:37:39< Soliton> and mark the report as invalid or won't fix. 20101204 19:41:21< Soliton> Ivanovic: maybe you can handle bug #17151? (a patch to cmake) 20101204 19:42:03< El_Caballero> ok. I do not understand. :-/ I think that this bug (https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?17185) is valid. I could solve it. Sorry for my english. Why does it have to be mark invalid? 20101204 19:43:59< Soliton> El_Caballero: as you can see from the behaviour of ending a unit's turn (press space) a red orb means the unit is done not that the plans for that unit cannot be changed anymore or that it has no moves left. 20101204 19:44:19< Soliton> thus the current behaviour is correct. 20101204 19:44:48< Soliton> the help does need to clarify that though. it is currently wrong. 20101204 19:46:59< Soliton> Ivanovic: similarly bug #17152 20101204 19:47:13-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101204 19:47:39< Ivanovic> better assing those to mordante, he is the "real" maintainer of the cmake packages 20101204 19:47:53< Ivanovic> honestly i am not sure at all if the change in 17152 really makes sense... 20101204 19:48:03< Soliton> ok. 20101204 20:02:57-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-158-44-235.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 20:20:46-!- Mussious [~kamil@dga93.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 20:28:24< El_Caballero> Hey. Did anybody type "svn status" in its repository? I have it without changes, and a lot of files are differents (With the letter 'm') :-/. However, They are the same that in the repository :-/. Is it normal? 20101204 20:33:56-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.154.65] has quit [Quit: Grimling] 20101204 20:35:36< Soliton> what? paste the output. 20101204 20:36:52< El_Caballero> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/SMNe40Sa 20101204 20:37:32-!- phlaem [~a@g231234008.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 20:39:07< Soliton> what OS are you on? 20101204 20:39:36< Soliton> could be some line ending mismatch. 20101204 20:39:41< El_Caballero> linux (Arch linux exactly) 20101204 20:39:52< El_Caballero> hmmm 20101204 20:39:59< Soliton> and svn diff shows no changes? 20101204 20:40:12< El_Caballero> Yes a lot 20101204 20:40:41< El_Caballero> That files are changed. And they look equal. 20101204 20:41:03< Soliton> well, no idea how that happened but svn -R revert utils/java should fix it. 20101204 20:42:01< El_Caballero> It is equal. But no problem. I will not care about it. I think that you are right. :). It may be is a different end line 20101204 20:42:19< El_Caballero> It is equal == svn -R revert utils/java does not fix it 20101204 20:42:59< Soliton> that sounds broken. 20101204 20:43:21< Soliton> was there no output from the revert command? 20101204 20:43:34< El_Caballero> no. no output 20101204 20:44:54< El_Caballero> ok. No proble. I am going to re-download it 20101204 20:45:01< El_Caballero> thanks :) 20101204 20:45:12< Soliton> what filesystem is your checkout on? 20101204 20:46:49< El_Caballero> I checked out on an ext3, and after I moved it to reiserfs :-o 20101204 20:47:48< Soliton> reiserfs is case sensitive? either way it might have something to do with that. 20101204 20:50:41< El_Caballero> Reiser is case sensitive. 20101204 20:51:19< El_Caballero> btw, It is an excelent file system. I recommend you it 20101204 20:51:51< El_Caballero> I have reiserfs 3, but reisrfs 4 is better yet. 20101204 20:52:01< Soliton> is anyone still developing it? 20101204 20:52:45 * Espreon rolls his eyes 20101204 20:53:47-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc12-brig16-2-0-cust84.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 20:55:34< El_Caballero> No. Nobody is developing reiserfs :( 20101204 20:55:50-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@vpw.wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101204 20:56:03< Espreon> Well, that's what happens after the head developer murders his wife.® 20101204 20:56:06 * shadowmaster is quite happy with ext4. 20101204 20:56:13< loonycyborg> reiser4 kernel patches are still maintained, in fact they are in some patchsets such as zen sources. 20101204 20:56:15< El_Caballero> But, It has excellent benchmark 20101204 20:56:42< El_Caballero> :-o cool 20101204 21:02:07< loonycyborg> I'm using reiser4 on my root partition. It seems to be generally fine. Though I once had to do fsck on it because of some corrupt directory entry that couldn't be deleted. 20101204 21:02:25-!- eoc|afk is now known as eoc 20101204 21:02:30-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.52.72] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 21:04:25-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@69.62.144.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20101204 21:05:32-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc12-brig16-2-0-cust84.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]] 20101204 21:05:43-!- El_Caballero [~saul@201.243.7.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101204 21:05:45-!- Grimling_ [~Grimling@91.181.154.65] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 21:06:15-!- El_Caballero [~saul@201.243.7.16] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 21:06:39< Soliton> http://gna.org/bugs/?17218 is that a GCI student's report? 20101204 21:07:15< zookeeper> no idea, but apparently their english isn't very good :P 20101204 21:07:40< Soliton> indeed. :-) 20101204 21:07:59< Soliton> will you handle those liberty reports? 20101204 21:08:18< Soliton> if so also tell him to report typos in the wiki. 20101204 21:08:35-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.52.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20101204 21:08:39-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20101204 21:08:49-!- Grimling_ is now known as Grimling 20101204 21:09:17 * zookeeper looks if anyone else wants to do it 20101204 21:09:59< zookeeper> http://gna.org/bugs/?17222 tells me we might need a save_replay= key in [endlevel] 20101204 21:11:03< Soliton> make that report into a feature request? 20101204 21:11:50< Espreon> Nah, that report's wrong. 20101204 21:12:08< eoc> yup 20101204 21:12:54< zookeeper> Espreon, really? 20101204 21:13:22< Espreon> Yeah, "to error" would not work in that case. 20101204 21:13:44< zookeeper> oh, the other report. 20101204 21:13:49< Soliton> you should probably refine your use of "that". 20101204 21:14:18< Espreon> Oh, sorry. 20101204 21:14:40 * Espreon wasn't paying attention, for replacing ink cartrdiges caused a major screw up 20101204 21:14:48< Espreon> ... and he has to fix it 20101204 21:15:48-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB09.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101204 21:16:29< Soliton> zookeeper: i can handle the typo reports. 20101204 21:17:26< zookeeper> Soliton, great, thanks 20101204 21:18:18< zookeeper> i'll handle all the ones relating to campaigns i maintain, even though it sometimes takes a few days ;) 20101204 21:18:40< zookeeper> that is, other than typo fixes 20101204 21:19:03< Soliton> sure, there is no rush. i just have some time now to look through the new reports. 20101204 21:28:26-!- Mussious [~kamil@dga93.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20101204 21:28:30-!- AndrewKeenan [~quassel4@173-87-22-108.dsl1-merch.roch.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 21:29:36-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl4E5CDB09.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev --- Log opened Sat Dec 04 22:01:46 2010 20101204 22:01:54-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20101204 22:01:54-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: 190 bugs, 301 feature requests, 22 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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