--- Log opened Wed Dec 08 00:00:32 2010
--- Day changed Wed Dec 08 2010
20101208 00:00:32< Espreon> Hmmm... the engine bitches if [disallow_recruit] is given things like side=2,3...
20101208 00:00:45< Espreon> *"side=2,3"
20101208 00:01:39< shadowmaster> wesbot: topic
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20101208 00:05:18< esr> Ivanovic: I've run the required pre-release wmlscope/wmllint cleanup.
20101208 00:05:28< Ivanovic> esr: good
20101208 00:05:56< shadowmaster> I'm hunting bugs
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20101208 00:06:09< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: great!
20101208 00:06:17< Espreon> Bye for now.
20101208 00:06:18< Ivanovic> squash them!
20101208 00:06:29< CIA-28> shadowmaster * r47863 /trunk/ (changelog data/multiplayer/scenarios/4p_Siege_Castles.cfg): Fix Siege Castles' dimensions in the description (part of bug #15835)
20101208 00:07:28< shadowmaster> someone wants to update this? http://freshmeat.net/projects/wesnoth/
20101208 00:07:32< shadowmaster> otherwise I'm closing that bug and adding a note on that item
20101208 00:09:25< esr> shadowmaster: That Freshmeat entry can't be updated without a privlege that Sirp has to hand out.
20101208 00:09:55< shadowmaster> someone (Ivanovic) has to bug Sirp about it then. :P
20101208 00:10:22< esr> Yes, I think Ivanovic would be the logical person to do those updates.
20101208 00:11:18< esr> Ivanovic: I can help.  I publish a script called freshgmeat-submit that lets you do release announcements without having to do a clicky-dance on the web interface.
20101208 00:12:08< esr> http://freshmeat.net/projects/freshmeat-submit
20101208 00:13:07< shadowmaster> shikadibot: seen alink
20101208 00:13:07< shikadibot> shadowmaster: The person with the nick alink last spoke 8d 1h ago.  1d 22h ago they left with the message: Remote host closed the connection
20101208 00:17:40< shadowmaster> ew https://gna.org/bugs/?16571
20101208 00:20:12< esr> Ivanovic: SpellingMistakes is clear, except for one problem that looks like droppings from a Pango bug.
20101208 00:20:29< esr> "Valley of Death: When picking up holy water, the dialog contains bracketed "i"'s instead of "arcane" in italics."
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20101208 00:20:42< esr> I'm not sure who to report that to.
20101208 00:21:14< shadowmaster> esr: I fixed that one already
20101208 00:21:26< esr> Oh, good.
20101208 00:21:27< shadowmaster> by converting the [object] dialog to GUI2
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20101208 00:22:56< esr> shadowmaster: I'll join you as in the bug-stimping as soon as I get a bew password from Gna.  Seems they were rest resently.
20101208 00:23:07< esr> reset, I mean.
20101208 00:23:53< shadowmaster> yeah, because of the savannah security breach
20101208 00:24:58< anonymissimus> who could someone wanting to become a translator talk to ?
20101208 00:25:56< shadowmaster> to the translation maintainer, or Ivanovic if it's for a maintainerless team or a new translation
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20101208 00:33:07< CIA-28> shadowmaster * r47864 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): DiD: Allow Darken Volk to open gates in A Small Favor part 3 (bug #17250)
20101208 00:35:39< shadowmaster> shikadibot: seen thespaceinvader
20101208 00:35:39< shikadibot> shadowmaster: Sorry, I don't know of thespaceinvader.
20101208 00:35:48< shadowmaster> :<
20101208 00:37:14< anonymissimus> I wanted to fix that :(
20101208 00:39:47< iwontbecreative> Oh nearly forgot that
20101208 00:40:12< iwontbecreative> In tutorial, when they ask to "attack with the first archer" in the second scenario
20101208 00:40:29< iwontbecreative> No matter with what unit you attack it says "NOw attack with the second archer"
20101208 00:40:32< iwontbecreative> Small glitch
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20101208 01:26:04< shadowmaster> AI0867: see ML
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20101208 01:26:16< AI0867> shadowmaster: yeah, that's why I asked
20101208 01:26:23< AI0867> wondered if he'd shown up here too
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20101208 02:33:38< [Relic]> Hello :)
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20101208 02:44:45< iwontbecreative> hi
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20101208 03:04:30< CIA-28> shadowmaster * r47865 /trunk/ (changelog src/scripting/lua.cpp): Make [select_unit] highlight= (def. yes) work as intended for displaying the selected unit's reach (bug #16819)
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20101208 04:17:23< Espreon> shadowmaster: Are you able to deal with that [disallow_recruit] issue? It can't take things like side=1,2 for some reason. The game doesn't accept it and complains about noninteger stuff being provided for side=
20101208 04:18:22< shadowmaster> what's the bug number?
20101208 04:18:42< Espreon> I don't think there's a report.
20101208 04:19:01< shadowmaster> that explains why I didn't know of it until now.
20101208 04:19:01< Espreon> I encountered the issue a few hours ago.
20101208 04:21:15< shadowmaster> file a bug
20101208 04:21:24< Espreon> Very well.
20101208 04:26:10< Espreon> shadowmaster: Done.
20101208 04:27:50< shadowmaster> I'm not han dling it.
20101208 04:27:56< Espreon> Awwww...
20101208 04:28:21< shadowmaster> I predicted that answer with the same exact number of "w"s.
20101208 04:29:14< Espreon> Really now?
20101208 04:30:04< shadowmaster> yes, really now.
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20101208 04:38:29< jburns20> Just to let you know, the Under the Burning Suns campaign has an error in 1.9.2
20101208 04:38:31< jburns20> Error loading game configuration files: ‘Unexpected characters after variable name (expected , or =), value‘ ‘ at core/macros/ai.cfg:189 included from core/_main.cfg:10 included from _main.cfg:5 included from core/macros/ai.cfg:197 included from core/_main.cfg:10 included from _main.cfg:5 included from campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/O1_The_Morning_After.cfg:55 included from campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/_m
20101208 04:38:56< shadowmaster> Espreon: sounds like your thing
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20101208 04:39:31< Espreon> jburns20: Fixed. Replace your utils.cfg with this one: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/trunk/data/core/macros/utils.cfg?revision=47453
20101208 04:39:42 * Espreon is sick of so many people reporting this
20101208 04:40:17< jburns20> thanks
20101208 04:40:20< Espreon> No prob.
20101208 04:41:20 * Espreon cannot wait for 1.9.3
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20101208 05:50:00< smu33rules> Espreon?
20101208 05:50:09< Espreon> smu33rules: Yes?
20101208 05:50:47< smu33rules> I just wanted to make sure I was in the right place.  I am doing this (http://socghop.appspot.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129063636532) task, and I just submitted work
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20101208 06:31:50< Espreon> mordante: Ugh... GUI1 has problems with italics. Italicized words have large spaces between each other; this looks horrible.
20101208 06:32:09< Espreon> mordante: Would you please fix this if possible?
20101208 06:33:00< Espreon> *have large spaces surrounding them
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20101208 06:34:37< smu33rules> hey espreon sorry i'm back
20101208 06:34:44< smu33rules> is flat a technical terrain?
20101208 06:34:59< Espreon> Hmmm... I guess so.
20101208 06:35:10< smu33rules> k
20101208 06:36:51< shadowmaster> Espreon: mordante will most likely tell you that he won't touch GUI1 under any circumstances ;)
20101208 06:37:27< shadowmaster> I guess it's a problem with SDL_ttf more than GUI1 anyway
20101208 06:37:48< Espreon> Meh, who knows?
20101208 06:37:54< Espreon> If it can be fixed... I want it fixed.
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20101208 06:38:27< Espreon> I don't want the excuse for not fixing it to be that something awesome without the problem will be finished when I'm ninety.
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20101208 07:54:16< zookeeper> AI0867, you needed something?
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20101208 10:15:01< AI0867> zookeeper: I was wondering what your sort-of working GUI-WML changes looked like
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20101208 10:20:52< Ivanovic> moin
20101208 10:21:51< zookeeper> AI0867, the portrait sizing stuff? mordante committed them already a while ago
20101208 10:23:08< AI0867> the don't-resize-if-the-portrait-is-too-tall,-crop-it-from-the-top-instead stuff?
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20101208 10:26:17< zookeeper> AI0867, oh that. i haven't attempted anything regarding that
20101208 10:26:47< AI0867> I must have misinterpreted your post in the wose thread then
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20101208 10:32:31< zookeeper> i don't understand wml_message.cfg. it looks like you can't actually access the dimensions of the image in any way.
20101208 10:33:53< zookeeper> how can one write a formula for how much space the image should take or how it should be scaled if you must assume one hardcoded image size (i'm guessing it treats everything as 500x500 atm)?
20101208 10:34:33< zookeeper> oh, phew, there's these image_original_width and image_original_height things which presumably contain the dimensions
20101208 10:34:47< zookeeper> dunno how i managed to miss those.
20101208 10:36:56< AI0867> I still don't understand how we can get it to crop rather than scale though =/
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20101208 10:45:35< zookeeper> any idea why there's both a [window_definition] with id=wml_message_left and then a [window] with id=wml_message_left? why aren't those both in the same tag?
20101208 10:53:55< AI0867> I think they differ
20101208 10:53:56< zookeeper> anyway, i'm not finding a way to make the message text position depend on the image dimensions. using width = "( image_original_width )" in the [spacer] responsible for positioning the text doesn't work.
20101208 10:54:01< AI0867> but I forgot in what way
20101208 10:54:13< AI0867> _definition stuff does something else
20101208 10:54:53< AI0867> I'm afraid we'll need mordante for this...
20101208 10:57:51< zookeeper> "grow_factor: The grow factor for a column, this value is only read for the first row." - uh, yeah, sure, but what does it _do_...
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20101208 11:00:55< AI0867> probably has to do with how much it expandss relative to the others in order to fill the parent window
20101208 11:05:15 * zookeeper shrugs
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20101208 11:25:00< Ivanovic> iwaim___: okay, your new task looks rather good, though (for completeness sake) you should know that some work has to be submitted in the tracker
20101208 11:25:23< Ivanovic> iwaim___: since it is a mailing list archive, what about leaving the link to the post as "submitted work"?
20101208 11:25:57< Ivanovic> iwaim___: once that is done i will directly accept and publish your task
20101208 11:26:00< Ivanovic> looks good to me
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20101208 13:45:54< ZumZoom> Can smb explain what liminal unit is?)
20101208 13:48:37< loonycyborg> iirc one that's most effective at dusk/dawn
20101208 13:48:57< zookeeper> one which gets a bonus at dusk and dawn and nothing at day and night.
20101208 13:50:19< ZumZoom> i mean... exactly the word liminal) has it its own meaning?)
20101208 13:53:18< zookeeper> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liminal
20101208 13:56:40< ZumZoom> thanks
20101208 13:58:24< loonycyborg> I really hope that you don't need to translate it to Russian :P
20101208 14:04:16< stikonas> I still haven't translated lawful into Lithuanian, this liminal is even worse...
20101208 14:05:30< zookeeper> well it's not used in mainline, so not much need to worry about it yet...
20101208 14:10:10< iwontbecreative> IS there some place where we can find the list of campaign maintainers ?
20101208 14:11:23< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: asking in here is the best solution
20101208 14:12:11< zookeeper> iwontbecreative, the maintainers are named in the credits of each campaign, look in campaigns/campaignname/_main.cfg
20101208 14:12:21< iwontbecreative> Ok, thanks :)
20101208 14:13:51< ZumZoom> loonycyborg, really, i have to :)
20101208 14:14:47< ZumZoom> i thought that "Ñêðûòíûé" is some kind of liminal)
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20101208 14:17:49< loonycyborg> I really have trouble to think of a non-awkward sounding tranlation, but even the original word is kinda awkward.
20101208 14:18:13< timotei> hoai
20101208 14:18:32< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: it is very awkward since it describes some psychological condition
20101208 14:18:35< loonycyborg> ZumZoom: Your non-ascii characters don't seem to display properly. Probably you need to set your client to use utf-8
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20101208 14:21:16-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.9.3 planned "really soon" | 184 bugs, 304 feature requests, 22 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20101208 14:22:19< Ivanovic> AI0867, Espreon, esr, fendrin, loonycyborg, Soliton, timotei, Upthorn, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: please do not forget that I plan to release 1.9.3 in some hours
20101208 14:22:29< Ivanovic> (maybe in 3 hours, not 100% sure jet)
20101208 14:24:14< iwontbecreative> So it will be released with the whiteboard crash ?
20101208 14:24:46< Ivanovic> which whiteboard crash?
20101208 14:25:37< iwontbecreative> https://gna.org/bugs/?17136
20101208 14:26:04< Ivanovic> yes, it will
20101208 14:26:46< iwontbecreative> Ah, I tought it was an easy fix because you just needed to disallow normal undo in whiteboard mode
20101208 14:39:14< AI0867> Ivanovic: I'm not working on anything atm
20101208 14:39:31< AI0867> normal undo is enabled in whiteboard mode??
20101208 14:39:43< AI0867> whiteboard is supposed to replace that
20101208 14:40:09< AI0867> iwontbecreative: do you have a patch?
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20101208 15:04:51< iwontbecreative> AI0867: Sorrry, was afk... I don't have any patch (I guess this is C++) but I tought it was an easy coding.
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20101208 15:06:47< AI0867> well, I don't have time to do anything for another 3 hours or so
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20101208 15:07:12< AI0867> so if there's a patch ready then, I might be able to sneak it in
20101208 15:07:22< AI0867> otherwise you'll have to find another dev to fix it
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20101208 15:15:28< timotei> I for one would remove that assert
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20101208 15:31:04< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47866 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Added LordBob's portraits for Rithrandil. Scaled down to 500x727 for now since the portrait scaling can't currently handle the full-sized ones.
20101208 15:35:42< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47867 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/wml_message.cfg: 
20101208 15:35:42< CIA-28> Made images in messages be placed 10px above the bottom edge of the screen if
20101208 15:35:42< CIA-28> they're <250px high (and thus not portraits), horizontally centered all images
20101208 15:35:42< CIA-28> on the available space instead of aligning images >100px wide to the left edge,
20101208 15:35:42< CIA-28> and probably fixed the image centering not working on right-side images.
20101208 15:36:45< zookeeper> if anyone has time, i'd suggest testing the above commit(s) with different resolutions. everything seems to work fine for me, but...
20101208 15:37:32< zookeeper> also if anyone knows of any portrait that's <250px high, let me know
20101208 15:47:13< Ivanovic> zookeeper: have you checked things using --small-gui and 800x480 as resolution?
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20101208 15:47:31< Ivanovic> i think that is the smallest res we officiall support (beside the broken tinygui)
20101208 15:48:34< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47868 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/images/portraits/ (rithrandil-winter.png rithrandil.png): 
20101208 15:48:35< CIA-28> ran util/wesnoth-optipng on the new/changed images
20101208 15:48:35< CIA-28> Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20101208 15:48:35< CIA-28> Original size: 1001 KiB on 2 files
20101208 15:48:35< CIA-28> Optimized size: 946 KiB
20101208 15:48:35< CIA-28> Total saving: 55 KiB = 5% decrease
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20101208 15:54:15< zookeeper> Ivanovic, no, not yet
20101208 15:55:50< zookeeper> uh, i now get a crash when accessing the resolution menu, gotta check if that's my fault... :p
20101208 15:55:50< zookeeper> WML exception: User message: Mandatory widget 'message' hasn't been defined. \n Dev message: Condition '!must_exist || result' failed at src/gui/widgets/widget.hpp:724 in function 'find_widget'.
20101208 15:57:23< zookeeper> nope, reverted my change and still it crashes...my build is a few days old though
20101208 15:57:45< Ivanovic> my build from this morning works with the resolution menu
20101208 15:58:55 * zookeeper tries a newer build
20101208 16:00:25< Ivanovic> will try the build on the pandora now
20101208 16:00:31< Ivanovic> where can i see some of those portraits?
20101208 16:01:23< AI0867> TRoW
20101208 16:01:28< AI0867> somewhere
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20101208 16:06:09< AI0867> or do you mean tiny ones?
20101208 16:06:18< AI0867> the test scenario, probably
20101208 16:06:30< AI0867> try to find a unit without a portrait, so it'll use the sprite instead
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20101208 16:12:24< zookeeper> Ivanovic, try TRoW and the oldwood scenarios for the big rithrandil portrait, that's the most likely one to break something
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20101208 16:19:23< Ivanovic> zookeeper: seems to be working nicely over here
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20101208 16:29:58< zookeeper> hmh, i'm still getting a crash when entering the resolution menu on r47848 with and without my latest commit :/
20101208 16:31:38< loonycyborg> Try 47868 :P
20101208 16:32:11< AI0867> zookeeper: backtrace?
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20101208 16:38:41< zookeeper> loonycyborg, great, thanks, downloading
20101208 16:40:39< zookeeper> loonycyborg, you sure you uploaded the right file?
20101208 16:40:49< zookeeper> my firefox insists that it's the same file as the previous one
20101208 16:42:16< loonycyborg> zookeeper: How does it figure out? You mean date and time in the index page?
20101208 16:42:30< loonycyborg> It's 08-Dec-2010 16:14 for me.
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20101208 16:44:40< zookeeper> loonycyborg, no, it just immediately thinks it's done with the download, just like it happens if i try to download and overwrite an existing file twice.
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20101208 16:45:51< loonycyborg> Maybe it's confused?
20101208 16:46:34< zookeeper> maybe, but i'm not sure how to convince it otherwise.
20101208 16:46:56< loonycyborg> Delete/rename the dowloaded file.
20101208 16:46:57< zookeeper> ah well, i can just download it to a different dir and it'll work
20101208 16:47:17< zookeeper> that didn't work, it still had it in some cache i guess
20101208 16:47:54< Ivanovic> zookeeper: okay, i see one issue with placement
20101208 16:48:08< Ivanovic> zookeeper: start two brothers with --smallgui and -r 800x480
20101208 16:48:28< Ivanovic> the dialog at the beginning, where arne is supposed on the right side, displays arne right above the text that is shown on the left
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20101208 16:49:50< Ivanovic> http://imagebin.org/126910
20101208 16:50:38< Ivanovic> okay, happens in 800x600, too
20101208 16:50:41< Ivanovic> no need for smallgui
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20101208 16:52:13< Ivanovic> using 900x600 it is really strange, the portrait is alligned with the right edge of the screen, not the right pane
20101208 16:52:28< Ivanovic> and it is drawn behind the right pane, so only the head of the horse is shown
20101208 16:52:57< Ivanovic> http://imagebin.org/126913
20101208 16:53:02< Ivanovic> zookeeper: please have a look at those
20101208 16:53:08< Ivanovic> they are IMO a blocker for 1.9.3
20101208 16:53:21< zookeeper> yeah, i'm looking into it atm
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20101208 17:09:44< zookeeper> i see the problem, will try to fix..
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20101208 17:18:19< Ivanovic> i am currently trying to redo the hotkeys section in the manual
20101208 17:18:47< Ivanovic> it does not list several keys (whiteboard), lists something wrong and i will also add pandora specific stuff
20101208 17:19:20< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: do you know off hand what the hotkey difference between OSX and "normal" version are?
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20101208 17:19:30< Ivanovic> i remember something regarding strange things with ctrl vs command
20101208 17:19:56< zookeeper> wait, wtf am i doing? i can't center portraits since some of them clip on the left side :F
20101208 17:20:02< zookeeper> good grief what was i thinking
20101208 17:20:28< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: I couldn't list all of them, but in general it's command instead of ctrl
20101208 17:20:40< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: no need to list all
20101208 17:20:47< crimson_penguin> so like, I think it's cmd+o for open, cmd+s for save
20101208 17:20:54< Ivanovic> if saying "if you are using OSX, try cmd instead of ctrl"
20101208 17:21:55< crimson_penguin> well you can go through searching for IF_APPLE_CMD_ELSE_CTRL
20101208 17:22:15< Ivanovic> i don't plan on listing every single key again!
20101208 17:22:48< crimson_penguin> here's one real difference: it's cmd+, not ctrl+p
20101208 17:23:32< crimson_penguin> and cmd+w, not ctrl+q - BUT, that's because, cmd+q is handled by the native quit menu, and will actually quit immediately
20101208 17:23:59< crimson_penguin> whereas cmd+w (normally ctrl+q), will just ask if you want to quit the current game
20101208 17:27:13< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47869 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/wml_message.cfg: Reverted r47867 since actually it didn't make any sense after all.
20101208 17:27:22< Grimling> what's the starting point for AI's turn?
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20101208 17:28:57-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.9.3 planned "really soon" | 186 bugs, 305 feature requests, 22 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20101208 17:49:09< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47870 /trunk/ (changelog players_changelog): Updated changelogs.
20101208 17:49:53< zookeeper> i don't have anything left, i think
20101208 17:53:03< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47871 /trunk/data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/maps/09_The_Valley_of_Death.map: Turned some shallow water to gray shallow water.
20101208 17:53:05< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: okay, so the only OSX keys that require something "really" different are preferences and quit
20101208 17:55:52< Ivanovic> esr: around?
20101208 17:56:05< Ivanovic> esr: i'd like you to read over my changes to the manual
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20101208 18:01:06< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47872 /trunk/doc/manual/manual.txt: 
20101208 18:01:06< CIA-28> update the hotkey section in the manual
20101208 18:01:06< CIA-28> split hotkeys into different tables by "sections"
20101208 18:01:06< CIA-28> add hotkeys that are specific (OSX and Pandora)
20101208 18:01:53< Ivanovic> esr: it would be great if you could look through commit 47872 to make sure that they are fine
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20101208 18:04:01< Ivanovic> AI0867, crimson_penguin, Espreon, esr, fendrin, loonycyborg, shadowmaster, Soliton, Upthorn, zookeeper, everyone else who cares: ready for 1.9.3?
20101208 18:04:05< Ivanovic> will run the pot-update now
20101208 18:05:37< AI0867> Ivanovic: I'll see if I can get a quick fix in for the whiteboard
20101208 18:05:48< Ivanovic> AI0867: okay
20101208 18:05:52< timotei> hmm, 305 FR? last time I've check were about 200-250
20101208 18:06:07< AI0867> but I'll take at most 25 minutes, fixed or not
20101208 18:07:38< Ivanovic> okay, good to know
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20101208 18:09:40< Ivanovic> esr, everyone else interested: please proofread the "Controls" section of the manual: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/trunk/doc/manual/manual.en.html#_controls
20101208 18:10:01< Ivanovic> if you find anything that should be changed/improved either ping me or edit doc/manual/manual.txt yourself
20101208 18:10:18< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47873 /trunk/ (378 files in 37 dirs): 
20101208 18:10:18< CIA-28> pot-update (preparing for 1.9.3)
20101208 18:10:18< CIA-28> regenerated doc files
20101208 18:10:44< timotei> Ivanovic: I've seen a type
20101208 18:10:49< timotei> For exacmple 
20101208 18:10:50< Ivanovic> those things mentioned should refelect current default setup as shown eg ingame in the change hotkeys dialog
20101208 18:11:28< timotei> in 2nd sentence in Controls
20101208 18:11:56< Ivanovic> fixed (locally)
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20101208 18:14:18< timotei> shift+c 	Create Unit (Debug!)  -> Shift (first with uppercase, since it's the same in all places)
20101208 18:14:23< timotei> just for consistency
20101208 18:14:43< Ivanovic> right
20101208 18:15:02< timotei> page down 	Move action down queue
20101208 18:15:02< timotei> page up 	Move action up queue 
20101208 18:15:04< timotei> and this :P
20101208 18:15:14< timotei> rest is fine for me
20101208 18:16:03< Ivanovic> another case of 'alt' being written non capitalized
20101208 18:16:59< Ivanovic> hmm, "page up" better as "Page Up" or "Page up"?
20101208 18:18:42< timotei> Up
20101208 18:18:54< timotei> afair, English uppercases "title" thingys
20101208 18:19:06< AI0867> I have a patch that fixes the immediate issue, but it creates others...
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20101208 18:20:39< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47874 /trunk/doc/manual/manual.txt: some fixed for manual.txt, regenerating doc files will follow "soon"
20101208 18:21:02< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: ahh, is it tagged yet?
20101208 18:21:07< Ivanovic> no
20101208 18:21:20< crimson_penguin> ok, let me update the XCode project before it is
20101208 18:21:23< Ivanovic> sure
20101208 18:22:21< Ivanovic> AI0867: oh, not good...
20101208 18:23:23< AI0867> a slight improvement to my hack might fix that though
20101208 18:23:43< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: F5 is ctrl+F5 on Mac as well
20101208 18:24:10< AI0867> and it *will* need to be reanalyzed after the release, but at least the crashes should be fixed
20101208 18:24:41< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: end turn is option+space, rather than ctrl+space or cmd+space
20101208 18:25:07< crimson_penguin> that should be all
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20101208 18:26:26< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: oh, F5 is not documented at all
20101208 18:26:32< crimson_penguin> ok
20101208 18:26:42< crimson_penguin> end turn must be though
20101208 18:26:46< Ivanovic> (will add it)
20101208 18:28:16< Ivanovic> is F5 the image cache or the general cache that is regenerated?
20101208 18:29:45< crimson_penguin> "title_screen__reload_wml"
20101208 18:29:45< AI0867> nope, doesn't work =/
20101208 18:29:47< crimson_penguin> I don't know
20101208 18:30:07< AI0867> I'll post the patch on the tracker. No fix for now
20101208 18:32:07< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47875 /trunk/doc/manual/manual.txt: add some more hotkeys
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20101208 18:38:16< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: how much time remaining for tagging? did you already update the pots?
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20101208 18:39:10< Ivanovic> yes, i updated the pots but will redo the part for doc files (since i changed the manual)
20101208 18:39:36< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47876 /trunk/data/core/terrain-graphics/new-macros.cfg: Moved the fence from layer 0 to -80.
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20101208 18:49:05< Ivanovic> zookeeper: there is a message in AOI:
20101208 18:49:07< Ivanovic> Invalid WML found: [item] missing required x= and y= attributes.
20101208 18:51:33< iwontbecreative>  Does somebody knows if add-on selection window was recently converted to GUI2 ?
20101208 18:52:37< shadowmaster> iwontbecreative: which add-on selection window?
20101208 18:52:48< iwontbecreative> The one to donload
20101208 18:52:53< iwontbecreative> *download
20101208 18:52:56< Ivanovic> message in utbs: 20101208 18:52:41 warning ai/config: side 3: aspect with id=[recruitment_ignore_bad_movements] lacks default config facet!
20101208 18:53:06< iwontbecreative> Search by size is broken
20101208 18:53:28< shadowmaster> it hasn't been converted yet
20101208 18:53:46< shadowmaster> (the --new-widgets version is not finished)
20101208 18:54:06< iwontbecreative> Well than it's just a regression
20101208 18:54:37< shadowmaster> if you are talking about that sorting order bug, I saw it, I don't know how to fix it.
20101208 18:55:35< iwontbecreative> It works in 1.8.5 s I guess someone changed the code.
20101208 18:55:41< CIA-28> shadowmaster * r47877 /trunk/po/wesnoth-lib/es.po: Update Spanish translation
20101208 18:56:25< iwontbecreative> It's about reverting these changes 
20101208 18:56:45< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: will you contact Sirp regarding the freshmeat page?
20101208 18:57:05< Ivanovic> i think we neglected freshmeat for ages
20101208 18:57:14< Ivanovic> and honestly i don't see much of a reason to change this
20101208 18:57:36< Ivanovic> s/much of a reason/no reason at all
20101208 18:58:00< shadowmaster> since 1.6.something, to be exact
20101208 18:59:14< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: what is the status of your osx xcode project work?
20101208 19:01:03< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: well here's the thing, I could commit it now - I only needed to add one file; but ideally I would also change the version number in Info.plist, and the changelog in the .nib file; not REALLY necessary though, and I don't know if in general we want to have to coordinate so closely (because the changelog has to happen after you put up the playerchangelog)
20101208 19:01:17< crimson_penguin> I could just put it up and who cares what those things say for people compiling on Mac themself
20101208 19:01:43< CIA-28> shadowmaster * r47878 /trunk/players_changelog: When will people learn to keep the changelogs correctly formatted...
20101208 19:02:01< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: the changelogs are already there, all i do is rename the stuff at the top
20101208 19:02:06< Ivanovic> (which is basically the last step)
20101208 19:02:10< Ivanovic> but the file stays the same
20101208 19:02:13< crimson_penguin> oh, ok
20101208 19:02:41< crimson_penguin> so you're not gonna make any more changes to it then, before release?
20101208 19:03:06< Ivanovic> i just tend to change the version number
20101208 19:03:09< CIA-28> shadowmaster * r47879 /trunk/changelog: More changelog formatting
20101208 19:04:25< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47880 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): bump version number to 1.9.3
20101208 19:04:29< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin: there you are!
20101208 19:04:45< iwontbecreative> Oh, Whiteboard allows people to "cheat" on maps with large keeps
20101208 19:05:08< crimson_penguin> well I just did it without that ;) I'm now just svn status'ing to make sure I'm not gonna commit something else
20101208 19:05:47< iwontbecreative> Such as Arcanclave Citadel
20101208 19:07:56< CIA-28> crimson_penguin * r47881 /trunk/projectfiles/Xcode/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Updated Xcode project and related things for 1.9.3.
20101208 19:08:49< shadowmaster> no-one has updated the VC project files after the source code additions I did yesterday
20101208 19:08:55< shadowmaster> I hope that is not considered a problem
20101208 19:09:19< timotei> shadowmaster: hmm, I had errors trying to compile
20101208 19:09:27< timotei> I can update them if you tell me what files you added
20101208 19:09:31< timotei> or I'll look in CMAkeList
20101208 19:09:48< timotei> Ivanovic: will you wait 5 more minutes for updating the Visual Studio project file?:P
20101208 19:09:54< timotei> or it's late already
20101208 19:10:15< shadowm_laptop> timotei: src/gui/dialogs/mp_create_game_set_password.?pp
20101208 19:10:23< iwontbecreative> Will report the bug as it's very complex to explain
20101208 19:10:25< timotei> shadowm_laptop: thanks
20101208 19:12:32< shadowmaster> loonycyborg: is there anyway to force passing -lpthread to the linker during the scons configuration steps?
20101208 19:12:49< shadowmaster> one that doesn't involve hacking the build system files
20101208 19:12:49< Ivanovic> timotei: yeah, get it done
20101208 19:13:07< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: extra_flags_config=-lpthread
20101208 19:13:27< shadowmaster> ah, nice
20101208 19:13:39< shadowmaster> I'll try that later
20101208 19:14:08< timotei> hmm
20101208 19:14:08< timotei> 1>game.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol "public: __thiscall gui2::tcampaign_difficulty::tcampaign_difficulty(class std::vector<class std::basic_string<char,struct std::char_traits<char>,class std::allocator<char> >,class std::allocator<class std::basic_string<char,struct std::char_traits<char>,class std::allocator<char> > > > const &)" (??0tcampaign_difficulty@gui2@@QAE@ABV?$vector@V?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$
20101208 19:14:08< timotei> allocator@D@2@@std@@V?$allocator@V?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@@2@@std@@@Z) referenced in function __catch$?new_campaign@game_controller@?A0xb46b00db@@QAE_NXZ$0
20101208 19:14:14< timotei> I wonder why
20101208 19:14:29< shadowmaster> timotei: is src/gui/dialogs/campaign_difficulty.cpp in?
20101208 19:14:47< timotei> nope
20101208 19:14:48< timotei> lol
20101208 19:15:23< timotei> didn't saw that in CMakeLists changes
20101208 19:16:35< timotei> shadowmaster: thanks.that did
20101208 19:16:45< timotei> annnnnnnnnnd, we have successfully compiled windows VC wesnoth
20101208 19:16:52< timotei> Ivanovic: commiting now
20101208 19:19:24< CIA-28> timotei * r47882 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/wesnoth.vcproj: update Visual Studio solution
20101208 19:19:34< timotei> Ivanovic: ^ done :)
20101208 19:19:46< timotei> trunk is compilable with VC
20101208 19:19:51< timotei> VS*
20101208 19:21:11< zookeeper> Ivanovic, i'll take a quick look at the AOI item thing
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20101208 19:22:10< zookeeper> Ivanovic, doesn't make any sense: AOI doesn't use _any_ [item]s
20101208 19:23:45< zookeeper> oops, actually it has one, checking...
20101208 19:24:27< zookeeper> works for me, no such error
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20101208 19:27:36< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47883 /trunk/data/core/macros/event-utils.cfg: Clarified the comments for ON_SIGHTING.
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20101208 19:33:40< [Relic]> Hello :)
20101208 19:33:48< timotei> hi [Relic] 
20101208 19:33:54< shadowmaster> :|
20101208 19:35:26< Gambit> timotei: [Relic] is just a bot that says hello automatically upon joining a channel :)
20101208 19:35:36< timotei> lol?
20101208 19:35:41< timotei> [Relic]: bot!
20101208 19:35:58< timotei> [Relic]: hello bor
20101208 19:36:02< timotei> ok fine
20101208 19:36:06< timotei> [Relic]: bye bot
20101208 19:36:24< shadowmaster> guys
20101208 19:36:32< timotei> who?
20101208 19:36:32< Ivanovic> zookeeper: yeah, strangely the message seems to be gone now
20101208 19:39:25< Gambit> timotei: And any rumors of him actually playing wesnoth can be attributed to the fact that he is actually just the IRC front-end to bruteforce.py
20101208 19:39:46< timotei> but!
20101208 19:39:49< Gambit> The next evolution as it were.
20101208 19:39:52< timotei> he spoke like a human some time again
20101208 19:40:12< Gambit> The only Wesnoth AI to ever pass a turing test.
20101208 19:40:39< timotei> wha'???
20101208 19:42:06< Gambit> I'm totally BS'ing you :\
20101208 19:43:52< Ivanovic> okay, everyone ready for 1.9.3?
20101208 19:44:10< timotei> yep
20101208 19:44:15< shadowmaster> yes
20101208 19:44:15< timotei> Gambit: BS? ;P
20101208 19:44:44< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: What gcc/boost version required to pass -lpthread for you?
20101208 19:45:06< shadowmaster> loonycyborg: gcc 4.5.1 and boost 1.42
20101208 19:45:39< shadowmaster> not sure if it's a quirk of Debian's packaging of either or it's a problem with the boost version vs. gcc
20101208 19:45:53< loonycyborg> iirc sdl-config adds -pthread
20101208 19:46:26< shadowmaster> yeah, but this is -lpthread
20101208 19:46:34< [Relic]> :)
20101208 19:47:24< shadowmaster> anyway I'd not add it to the build recipe until there's confirmation of what's going on
20101208 19:47:38< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47884 /trunk/ (70 files in 2 dirs): regenerated doc files
20101208 19:47:51< loonycyborg> sdl-config --libs --cflags prints -lSDL -lpthread -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT for me.
20101208 19:48:22< shadowmaster> shadowm@bluecore:~/src/wesnoth$ sdl-config --libs --cflags
20101208 19:48:22< shadowmaster> -L/usr/lib -lSDL
20101208 19:48:22< shadowmaster> -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT
20101208 19:48:28-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.9.3, using r47884 | 186 bugs, 305 feature requests, 22 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20101208 19:49:04< loonycyborg> shadowmaster: So it's missing for you for some reason.
20101208 20:02:12< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47885 /tags/1.9.3/: tagged 1.9.3 (using r47884)
20101208 20:02:51< Ivanovic> uploading the tarball, should be done in about an hour
20101208 20:03:53< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: can we break trunk already?
20101208 20:04:49< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47886 /trunk/ (changelog configure.ac players_changelog src/wesconfig.h): post release version bump
20101208 20:05:12< shadowmaster> :D
20101208 20:06:03< Ivanovic> take this commit as "yes, we can!"
20101208 20:06:05< Ivanovic> ;)
20101208 20:06:41< timotei> muhaha
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20101208 20:13:45< shadowmaster>  whoah. apparently wesnothd fails to work correctly with libana and gcc 4.5
20101208 20:14:22< shadowmaster> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/TdDNpLgC
20101208 20:14:32< timotei> hmm
20101208 20:14:39< timotei> I'm thinking of enabling ana for vs too
20101208 20:15:37< shadowmaster> it's one truly cryptic assertion condition.
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20101208 20:19:21< Ivanovic> this time the xdelta is small, it is below 6MB
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20101208 20:43:06< stikonas> argh, my wesnoth git-svn checkout is again broken
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20101208 20:47:22< timotei21> stikonas: why broken?
20101208 20:47:53< stikonas> fatal: object 4f44ddd2320478f934ba8230192b97bd50f2face is corrupted
20101208 20:48:09< stikonas> I guess I will have to redownload wesnoth-git.tar.bz2 file
20101208 20:48:30< stikonas> and it is not the first time it got broken
20101208 20:48:50< stikonas> maybe I am using too experimental file systems :)
20101208 20:48:51< timotei21> hmm
20101208 20:48:56< timotei21> git reset --hard
20101208 20:48:59< timotei21> stikonas: ext4?
20101208 20:49:03< stikonas> btrfs
20101208 20:49:22< timotei21> wow?
20101208 20:49:25< timotei21> what's that?:))
20101208 20:49:26< stikonas> git reset --hard shows this fatal object (actually any git operation shows it)
20101208 20:49:28< timotei21> backtrack fs?
20101208 20:49:35< timotei21> hmm
20101208 20:49:36< stikonas> better file system :)
20101208 20:49:36< timotei21> delete it
20101208 20:49:39< timotei21> lol
20101208 20:49:40< timotei21> :))
20101208 20:49:59< stikonas> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs
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20101208 20:54:55< Ivanovic> crimson_penguin, loonycyborg, Rhonda: 1.9.3 is out
20101208 20:55:09-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.9.3, announcing "soon" | 186 bugs, 305 feature requests, 22 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20101208 21:13:09< Ivanovic> half an hour and 1.9.3 for the pandora is online, too
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20101208 21:21:54< crimson_penguin> k
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20101208 22:00:07< CIA-28> shadowmaster * r47887 /trunk/ (changelog data/gui/default/window/message.cfg): Fix alignment of labels in certain confirmation dialogs (e.g. Quit)
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20101208 22:02:53< grzywacz> hi
20101208 22:03:04< shadowmaster> ho
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20101208 22:12:53< Ivanovic> _iwaim_, iwaim___: i just published your japanese translation gci task
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20101208 22:31:15< fendrin> hi
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20101208 23:00:08< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: 1.9.3 windows installer is uploaded.
20101208 23:00:16< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: okay
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20101208 23:28:57-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: released 1.9.3, announcing "soon" | 187 bugs, 305 feature requests, 22 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20101208 23:35:44< iwontbecreative>  wesbot: seen Crab_
20101208 23:35:59< shadowmaster> try without the leading whitespace
20101208 23:36:20< iwontbecreative> wesbot: seen Crab_
20101208 23:36:20< wesbot> iwontbecreative: The person with the nick Crab_ last spoke 23h 43m ago.  21h 29m ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
20101208 23:36:22< iwontbecreative> Thanks
20101208 23:36:43< iwontbecreative> Good night :)
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20101208 23:45:44 * grzywacz facepalms at wesnoth built by eclipse, using cmake-generated project
20101208 23:45:50< grzywacz> OSS audio output by default? wtf
20101208 23:46:00< shadowmaster> SDL?
20101208 23:47:55< grzywacz> Except a binary compiled with cmake/autotools uses ALSA.
20101208 23:47:58< grzywacz> Confusion.
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20101208 23:58:40< fendrin> Anyone using a two monitor setup?
20101208 23:59:09< shadowmaster> I wish, but I'd probably fry my laptop in the attempt.
20101208 23:59:39< fendrin> Damn yes, It was a hell of configuration ugliness until it worked somehow.
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