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20101210 02:25:05< crimson_penguin> Ivanovic: it's up
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20101210 09:10:48< Soliton> Gambit, iwontbecreative: you can already do /info <nick> or so on the server to see last login time of registered players.
20101210 09:16:25< Soliton> Gambit: you can checkout room_manager::process_message() to find the issue with flooding. maybe you want to make a patch..? ;-)
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20101210 10:14:56< Ivanovic> moin
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20101210 11:55:14< Ivanovic> Soliton: what do you think of blocking 1.9.2 users from the dev mp server?
20101210 11:55:21< Ivanovic> 1.9.3 is out for all major platforms
20101210 11:55:34< Soliton> will do so now.
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20101210 12:00:36< Ivanovic> 1.9.3 forum announcement: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32398
20101210 12:03:57< Ivanovic> okay, updated the frontpage, too
20101210 12:04:02-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 186 bugs, 305 feature requests, 22 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20101210 12:06:02< CIA-28> ivanovic * r47901 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: cleanup RELEASE_NOTES after announcing the release (1.9.3)
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20101210 12:48:12< Ivanovic> mordante, crab_: i "accepted" the claim on the wikigrabber task that someone submitted, directly including the patch
20101210 12:48:34< Ivanovic> the student will have to "resubmit" the patch to make the tracker recognize it as done though
20101210 12:48:48< Ivanovic> (but yeah, i'd say it can already be reviewed)
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20101210 14:02:51< loonycyborg> Ivanovic:'The multiplayer server for *1.9.2* is up and running. This server can be only be used to play with other 1.9.3 users.' Huh?
20101210 14:03:14< Ivanovic> ups
20101210 14:03:39< Ivanovic> fixed
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20101210 15:56:09< fendrin> Ivanovic: Hello, I want like to commit some work. 
20101210 15:56:33< Ivanovic> fendrin: uhm, sure, what stops you from doing so?
20101210 15:56:36< fendrin> It is an extension to the help, a book that deals with drake.
20101210 15:56:52< fendrin> I want to make sure that there is no problem with translation for example.
20101210 15:57:16< fendrin> And it does make some stuff canonical.
20101210 15:57:25< fendrin> I will give you a link.
20101210 15:57:42< fendrin> http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/Wings_of_Victory/story/drakipedia.txt?revision=7967&view=markup
20101210 15:58:51< Ivanovic> hmm, no idea who feels responsible for the canon these days
20101210 15:59:00< Ivanovic> and how/where do you plan to add it exactly?
20101210 15:59:19< fendrin> It is esr, with whom I wrote the stuff.
20101210 15:59:52< fendrin> There will be an extra "folder"/book (the icon in the help is a book) "Encyclopedia"
20101210 16:00:06< fendrin> That Encyclopedia contains the "Drakipedia".
20101210 16:00:15< Ivanovic> yeah, why not, sounds reasonable to have to me
20101210 16:00:18< fendrin> Inside of that are all the articles. Linked with each other.
20101210 16:00:52< Gambit> Soliton: ohwow... that's... intentional? 0_0
20101210 16:01:15< Soliton> uh?
20101210 16:01:24< fendrin> Ivanovic: In fact, I would prefer to have the stuff in the campaign it is meant for first, but there is no way to extend the help out of an addon.
20101210 16:01:58< Ivanovic> fendrin: time to submit a feature request for this?
20101210 16:02:13< Ivanovic> in general i think that it makes sense to have some encyclopedia fpr wesnothian terms
20101210 16:02:20< fendrin> Ivanovic: I think Espreon did that already. But it seems not a so easy task.
20101210 16:02:43< Ivanovic> yeah, it is a nontrival task, that is right
20101210 16:02:47< Gambit> Soliton: The thing with not un-muting people.
20101210 16:02:50< fendrin> I will put topics that are not only drake related in the toplevel.
20101210 16:03:09< fendrin> So it is a basic start for a encyclopedia that coffers all wesnoth stuff.
20101210 16:03:21< Soliton> Gambit: ah no, of course not.
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20101210 16:03:43< Gambit> if (user->second.silenced()) { return; }
20101210 16:04:03< Gambit> I guess I should add some sort of time check there in that section to see how long it's been.
20101210 16:06:31< Soliton> see wesnothd::player::is_message_flooding()
20101210 16:06:59< Soliton> that function resets properly.
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20101210 16:10:28< fendrin> Ivanovic: I will make a directory with extra files to keep the help.cfg in a reasonable size, right?
20101210 16:10:59< Ivanovic> fendrin: yeah, sounds like the sane way to go
20101210 16:11:06< Ivanovic> making some encyclopedia subdir
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20101210 16:11:50< fendrin> Ivanovic: The help lies at data/core/help.cfg so I can either go with data/core/help/help.cfg + extra dirs.
20101210 16:12:14< fendrin> or data/core/encyclopedia with keeping the help.cfg at it's position in the filetree.
20101210 16:12:16< Ivanovic> yeah, i think creating a help/ subdir sounds good
20101210 16:12:31< Ivanovic> hmm, maybe we could then sometime split help into an additional textdomain
20101210 16:12:43< fendrin> sounds reasonable.
20101210 16:13:23< Ivanovic> though we should check first, what of the current help.cfg would result in being duplicated
20101210 16:13:24< fendrin> If we go the encyclopedia path to it's full length it will easily be the biggest part of the help if not even the biggest to translate part in core.
20101210 16:13:37< Ivanovic> at least the new stuff would fit nicely since there should be close to zero dupes
20101210 16:13:44< fendrin> yes
20101210 16:13:46< boucman> if the encyc is meant to grow, we might want to give it it's own text domain...
20101210 16:14:22< boucman> are unit description cross-linked to the encyclopedia ?
20101210 16:14:25< fendrin> so we can have both a textdomain for the help and one for the encyc
20101210 16:14:27< Ivanovic> boucman: i'd make it the help subdomain, moving the current ingame help from 'wesnoth' there as well as the encyclopedia stuff
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20101210 16:14:33< fendrin> boucman: Those are outogenerated.
20101210 16:14:47< boucman> ok
20101210 16:14:49< fendrin> boucman: From the [unit_type] tags.
20101210 16:15:07< Ivanovic> fendrin: we once considered making one just for the help, but without the units part there would not have been *this* many strings for ti
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20101210 16:15:54< fendrin> Ivanovic: Anyway, I will not touch the textdomains for setting up the infrastructure.
20101210 16:16:09< Ivanovic> yeah, i'll handle the textdomain stuff later on
20101210 16:16:13< fendrin> cool
20101210 16:16:15< zookeeper> err
20101210 16:16:30< zookeeper> why would we want that in the in-game help?
20101210 16:16:46< fendrin> Because the ingame help is a working text browser.
20101210 16:17:03< fendrin> And I need one to display hypertext like information.
20101210 16:17:33< fendrin> We can seperate the help from the encyclopedia but at least we should use the same c++ code for both.
20101210 16:19:32< fendrin> Let's try to get the filesystemtree right.
20101210 16:20:06< Soliton> i guess the question was more like why have it in-game at all.
20101210 16:20:41< fendrin> There are several good arguments for it.
20101210 16:21:36< fendrin> First we have information in one place and under svn control.
20101210 16:21:56< fendrin> That information is going to be translated, without extra infrastructure.
20101210 16:22:28< fendrin> Wesnoth players don't need to switch between the game and a web browser if they don't understand all of the story.
20101210 16:22:44< zookeeper> anything else?
20101210 16:23:10< fendrin> Isn't it already a good point?
20101210 16:23:12< boucman> it gives a clearer cut of what is canon and what is not in the wesnoth universe
20101210 16:23:20< zookeeper> i take that as a no then
20101210 16:23:41< boucman> it makes the world seem more alive to players that don't come to the forum/wiki
20101210 16:23:44< zookeeper> first of all the first two aren't arguments for why it should appear in-game, and the last one seems like a workaround for unclear writing
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20101210 16:25:04< zookeeper> if the player can't understand what the drakes are saying without consulting a dictionary, then that's first and foremost a problem with the writing
20101210 16:25:16< fendrin> zookeeper: I guess you would like to keep things that are not strictly "manual" out of the window called "help"=
20101210 16:25:17< fendrin> ?
20101210 16:26:29< fendrin> zookeeper: No, the writing is well done. I need to make information available at will, without reimplementing a hypertext system in wml.
20101210 16:26:54< zookeeper> fendrin, i'm not strictly opposed to having an in-game encyclopedia, but i don't see how the wikidrakia stuff warrants one: most of that information should rather be part of the drake race description
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20101210 16:27:44< fendrin> zookeeper: It will be too much at the end for a single file. And mostly distract multiplayer player from the inportant stuff they don't need.
20101210 16:28:15< fendrin> to stuff they don't need.
20101210 16:28:38< zookeeper> i doubt multiplayers need to read race descriptions much
20101210 16:29:12< zookeeper> also, some of that information is clearly specific to WoW, not drakes in general
20101210 16:29:21< zookeeper> so why should it really appear outside that campaign?
20101210 16:30:26< boucman> zookeeper: having an encyclopedia push people to produce more content, it's a tool that's meant to grow
20101210 16:30:31< fendrin> I agree that the specific stuff is better bound to the campaign. The feature request for that is already in place.
20101210 16:30:35< zookeeper> would it not be distracting if you were playing some other campaign involving drakes and the wikidrakia is explaining all this WoW-specific information, like what's spiral path and what's vulcaniad?
20101210 16:30:48< boucman> and it's generic knowledge about the world, not strictly attached to a campaign iiuc
20101210 16:31:08< fendrin> I will seperate general from specific stuff, that won't be a problem.
20101210 16:32:02< fendrin> But it needs to appear in the same system because I need to set hyperlink references between the articles.
20101210 16:32:15< fendrin> And I can't hyperlink inside a single file only between articles.
20101210 16:32:21< zookeeper> boucman, well, what people? do we have someone who's both competent and interested enough to write hundreds of encyclopedia items?
20101210 16:32:36< zookeeper> sure, if we do then that's fine, let's have an encyclopedia
20101210 16:32:43< boucman>  no, hundreds of people competent enough to write one ;)
20101210 16:32:55< zookeeper> really?
20101210 16:33:21< boucman> not really, but that's the idea... if we wait for the data to build the infrastructure we'll never get the data
20101210 16:33:23< fendrin> We have already enough contend on the wiki and hundreds of google students to do the transfer.
20101210 16:33:54< fendrin> So that thing can be done until january with ease. With proper content.
20101210 16:34:03< fendrin> Nice feature for a new release of wesnoth.
20101210 16:34:17< zookeeper> fendrin, url for an example of such content on the wiki?
20101210 16:35:08< fendrin> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/History_of_Wesnoth
20101210 16:35:16< fendrin> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Geography_of_Wesnoth
20101210 16:35:26< fendrin> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothFigures
20101210 16:35:37< fendrin> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Races
20101210 16:35:54< fendrin> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Poetry_of_Wesnoth
20101210 16:36:12< zookeeper> how is a google student who really knows practically nothing of the world of wesnoth supposed to be able to convert that information into decent encyclopedia form? by copying and pasting?
20101210 16:36:54< fendrin> Well, reading to the stuff and doing it will make that student to an expert on that field in no time.
20101210 16:37:11< Smar> copypasting is good way, if you know what you are pasting.
20101210 16:38:11< fendrin> We can consider the gci people are not stupid.
20101210 16:39:08< boucman> and understanding the language to be able to do en encyclopedia is not like understanding code, fortunately
20101210 16:48:27< zookeeper> as i said i don't mind an encyclopedia, but i'd think it should limit itself to people and geography, not explain racial terms like what's a "flight" - those should either be explained where the terms are used and/or in the race description
20101210 16:49:58< boucman> not sure where you put the limit... would cultural information about races be ok ?
20101210 16:50:15< zookeeper> however, just like unit types are hidden until you encounter them, i think people and locations (maybe excluding the best known ones) should also be hidden initially
20101210 16:50:38< zookeeper> boucman, sounds like something which belongs to the race description
20101210 16:50:48< boucman> hmm, and could be unlocked through WML... that could be interesting
20101210 16:51:13< zookeeper> would you really want a newbie going to the encyclopedia to check out konrad and immediately getting a spoiler that he's not really the prince?
20101210 16:51:27< boucman> zookeeper: if you consider cultural topics as subtopics of race description when it grows too much, then ok
20101210 16:52:54< zookeeper> ideally it'd be nice if for the geography part we had a shrouded world map which was gradually uncovered as you play campaigns and see more locations
20101210 16:54:11< zookeeper> but that has obvious problems, like who'd code that and also how to display hundreds of years of history on a single map.
20101210 16:56:57< fendrin> The hidding and uncovering the articles with the time is a good idea.
20101210 16:57:30< zookeeper> so, to summarize my thoughts: if you want to do it, then i suggest starting with geography. there's not such a great need to hide places you haven't seen or heard of yet, unlike with people.
20101210 16:58:14< fendrin> Okay, let's first talk about domains.
20101210 16:58:45< fendrin> What do we do with stuff that still does not fit into the unit or race descriptions?
20101210 16:58:57< fendrin> Will that be inside of "help"?
20101210 16:59:19< fendrin> Or will there be another menu entry that brings up a different window with seperate topics?
20101210 16:59:46< zookeeper> any examples?
20101210 17:00:08< zookeeper> pretty much all the racial terms in wikidrakia seem like they'd belong in the drake race description
20101210 17:00:13< zookeeper> the rest are characters and geography
20101210 17:01:03< fendrin> Yes
20101210 17:01:17< fendrin> Maybe your example is a good one.
20101210 17:01:22< fendrin> Konrad
20101210 17:01:40< fendrin> The player learns about Konrad and the article is unlocked.
20101210 17:01:51< fendrin> Where does it appear?
20101210 17:02:30< boucman> fendrin: that would be for the topic writer to decide I guess, "historical figues" maybe
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20101210 17:03:27< fendrin> boucman: So you would go with help->encyclopedia->Named by the topic writer->article
20101210 17:03:39< zookeeper> yes, in the encyclopedia there'd be different categories, most notably geography and historical figures
20101210 17:03:48< boucman> yes
20101210 17:03:53< fendrin> But all still inside the help browser?
20101210 17:03:55< boucman> historical events, maybe...
20101210 17:04:00< boucman> yes
20101210 17:04:10< zookeeper> yes
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20101210 17:04:41< fendrin> so we need to more features coded in c++: Help topics that are hidden and unlocked by an event. 
20101210 17:05:12< fendrin> And a dynamic generated race section that supports subtopics and not only a single page.
20101210 17:05:43< fendrin> s/to/two more
20101210 17:16:32< fendrin> I guess that layout fits best to a subfolder help in data/core with the help.cfg and files/subfolders inside it.
20101210 17:19:28< fendrin> At the end all race specific topics will end in the [race] tag.
20101210 17:20:35< fendrin> I feel that the race specific topics are somehow hidden in the "units" section but that is a compromise I can live with.
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20101210 18:26:26< Gambit> Well I'm stumped. Everything looks peachy now that I finally understand what's going on in is_message_flooding()
20101210 18:29:08< Gambit> Though I don't understand why it checks if user->second.is_message_flooding() and then sends the message to user->first
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20101210 18:30:23< Gambit> Good afternoon timotei
20101210 18:30:37< timotei> hi Gambit 
20101210 18:35:57< Gambit> Maybe the bug isn't in the flood checking, but in the relaying of the message.
20101210 18:36:33< timotei> I'm searching for someone who has WoW retail account (wotlk or catalysm)
20101210 18:36:36< timotei> is there any?
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20101210 18:42:58< Gambit> No. It's definitely in the checking. IIRC before the server would send the "you're spamming too much" every time until the time period was up. 
20101210 18:43:16< Gambit> Now it sends it once, then you get one more message that *does* go through, then it just stops
20101210 18:47:07< Soliton> because of the is_silenced() check.
20101210 18:47:30< Soliton> it never gets to is_message_flooding() again.
20101210 18:54:32< Gambit> Gah. I thought that was related to like a moderator mute or something.
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20101210 18:56:37< Gambit> So that was put there to save extra processing on silenced users (I assume), but the part that would unsilence them comes after it. ha
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20101210 19:12:41< fendrin> zookeeper: [topics] inside [race] now work well. Do you have any idea how to sort the articles on the menu to the left?
20101210 19:13:09< fendrin> alphabetically or first units then other topics?
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20101210 19:18:58< zookeeper> fendrin, not sure, but if it's easy to change we can decide that later.
20101210 19:19:22< fendrin> Okay.
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20101210 19:31:05< iwontbecreative> Damn :( Someone already made the wiki_grabber task :(
20101210 19:31:34< boucman> it wasn't you ?
20101210 19:32:23< iwontbecreative> Nope, Crab_ hadn't validated my last task, so I couldn't ask for it.
20101210 19:32:33< boucman> iwontbecreative: hopefully we will do other wiki_grabber related ones soon
20101210 19:32:37< boucman> sorry about that...
20101210 19:32:55< iwontbecreative> But his code is not too diff from mine, I'll add other thinks I had tought about in a patch :)
20101210 19:33:23< boucman> cool :)
20101210 19:33:38< boucman> don't hesitate to ping me once the patch is submitted, I'll reassign to mordante
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20101210 19:36:01< iwontbecreative> This task title is scary: "Japanese translations / " The Rise of Wesnoth" (trow) complete translating"
20101210 19:36:14< boucman> hehe
20101210 19:36:31< iwontbecreative> It's only ~100 strings to translate so title is weird.
20101210 19:37:49< boucman> well, 100 strings is not neglectable...
20101210 19:38:57< iwontbecreative> Sure it's not, but it's not a complete campaign
20101210 19:39:14< iwontbecreative> And it's translating 16 strings and changing/checking 88
20101210 19:39:15< shadowmaster> it probably meant to be "complete" as in "to complete"
20101210 19:39:30< iwontbecreative> Yep
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20101210 19:55:19< Gambit> perhaps "finish" is a better word then
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20101210 20:11:08< happygrue> One of my friends just got a Google Chrome laptop in the mail because he " promised to use it all the time, tell google about my thoughts and make sweet, sweet, love to it".  I wonder if any devs here could make a case to get one also?
20101210 20:11:24< happygrue> perhaps even a better case?  ;)
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20101210 20:12:45< mordante> servus
20101210 20:13:44< iwontbecreative> Well, any chromium user has this message :D
20101210 20:13:56< mordante> iwontbecreative, you were looking for me?
20101210 20:13:59< CIA-28> fendrin * r47902 /trunk/data/core/units.cfg: Added encyclopedia topics to the drake race.
20101210 20:15:02< iwontbecreative> mordante: Just wanted to ask something about the wiki GCI task, but someone else claimed it before me :)
20101210 20:15:05< CIA-28> fendrin * r47903 /trunk/data/core/encyclopedia/: Folder for encyclopedia articles created.
20101210 20:16:00< mordante> iwontbecreative, ok, but you are interesting in python tasks?
20101210 20:17:43< iwontbecreative> mordante: Yes.
20101210 20:18:13< iwontbecreative> mordante: I asked sometime ago (With another nick), but no one answered me back then :)
20101210 20:19:11< mordante> guess I missed that, also yesterday boucman asked some extra FR's for the tool
20101210 20:19:34< mordante> so there will be more tasks for it soon (before I used it as my private tool)
20101210 20:19:54< iwontbecreative> Back then people said me to ask esr, but he's often quite busy :)
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20101210 20:20:44< mordante> yeah esr is is our python toolsmith
20101210 20:21:38< iwontbecreative> Not sure how hard the tasks are.
20101210 20:21:53< iwontbecreative> But should be able to do it
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20101210 20:25:13< mordante> they shouldn't be too hard
20101210 20:27:39< CIA-28> fendrin * r47904 /trunk/src/ (help.cpp race.cpp race.hpp): Implemented the adding of subtopics to a races description.
20101210 20:28:14< CIA-28> fendrin * r47905 /trunk/data/core/help.cfg: Added the encyclopedia to the help.
20101210 20:29:06< mordante> fendrin, do you plan to work on all races regarding the encyclopedia?
20101210 20:29:47< fendrin> mordante: The encyclopedia will not contain race specific topics.
20101210 20:30:23< iwontbecreative> What's the encyclopedia ?
20101210 20:30:23< fendrin> zookeeper thought it is better to have race specific topics in the near of the race and unit help.
20101210 20:30:25< mordante> fendrin, not? guess I misread then
20101210 20:30:30< iwontbecreative> Something for all the prose about wesnoth ?
20101210 20:30:44< fendrin> mordante: Thus, the c++ commit. 47904
20101210 20:31:33< boucman> fendrin: you should add the encyclopedia to RELEASE_NOTES I guess
20101210 20:31:55< fendrin> boucman: Right, thanks. I would have forgot that.
20101210 20:33:16< CIA-28> fendrin * r47906 /trunk/data/core/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added a first few working test topics to the encyclopedia ant to the drake race.
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20101210 20:34:12< fendrin> mordante: But I can do some work on other race
20101210 20:34:26< fendrin> mordante: Do you have anything in mind?
20101210 20:35:06< mordante> fendrin, not really but I like it when things in phantasy worlds have a bit of background 
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20101210 20:35:22< mordante> so I like the addition of more information :-)
20101210 20:35:32< shadowmaster> mordante: fantasy is with f :P
20101210 20:37:21< mordante> shadowmaster, my dictionary lists both :-P
20101210 20:37:40< mordante> it prefers fantasy 
20101210 20:40:43< fendrin> Hmm, seems to work like expected.
20101210 20:40:56< fendrin> Both the encyclopedia and the extra race topics.
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20101210 20:56:55< timotei> happygrue: I wish I could get one too
20101210 20:56:58< timotei> but it's US only :(
20101210 20:57:26< timotei> I think they should have allowed as pilot program to be able to download the CHrome OS itself on ANY computer
20101210 20:57:27< timotei> so everyone could test it
20101210 20:58:03< Gambit> I think the solution is simple. Someone must offer to marry their Chrome OS Laptop.
20101210 20:58:56< happygrue> some people might try I guess.  ;)
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20101210 20:59:24< timotei> why marry?
20101210 20:59:32< timotei> or maybe, merry?:P
20101210 21:00:15< timotei> loonycyborg: how's your weather? here it started the cold and snow
20101210 21:00:19< timotei> really windy day today
20101210 21:02:04< loonycyborg> As usual for this season: somewhat cold and snowy :P
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20101210 21:30:46< CIA-28> grickit * r47907 /trunk/src/server/ (player.cpp player.hpp room_manager.cpp): Fixed a bug where players who flooded the lobby would never get reset.
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20101210 21:51:30< CIA-28> zookeeper * r47908 /trunk/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/images/portraits/eldaric.png: Updated Eldaric's portrait with a newer version.
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20101210 22:11:25< timotei> mordante:  http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129192380907#ws4001 
20101210 22:11:37< timotei> mordante: do you see any files attached? (Just peeped throught tasks :P )
20101210 22:12:05< iwontbecreative> I do: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/282143/wikigrabber.diff
20101210 22:12:16< timotei> hmm
20101210 22:12:19< timotei> very very weird
20101210 22:12:26< timotei> in firefox can't see any attached files for any tasks??
20101210 22:12:27< timotei> lol
20101210 22:12:27< iwontbecreative> It's in one of the comments
20101210 22:12:37< timotei> I use firefox
20101210 22:12:45< iwontbecreative> That doesn't matter
20101210 22:12:51< timotei> ?
20101210 22:12:56< iwontbecreative> Comment #2
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20101210 22:14:04< timotei> hmm
20101210 22:14:17< timotei> no. Can't see actually any uploaded file for any task
20101210 22:15:44< iwontbecreative> Weird
20101210 22:15:58< iwontbecreative> I just launched firefox and I can see
20101210 22:16:02< iwontbecreative> What version do you have ?
20101210 22:18:08< timotei> on chrome I got the same
20101210 22:18:56< mordante> timotei, I also see the diff, already looking at it, looks rather nice
20101210 22:19:23< timotei> lol
20101210 22:19:34< timotei> I don't see at all in firefox/chrome/IE (different tasks)
20101210 22:19:35< timotei> IKD
20101210 22:19:46< timotei> IDK*
20101210 22:20:37< iwontbecreative> For IE it's not a bug, it's a feature
20101210 22:20:43< timotei> lol:P
20101210 22:21:11< timotei> I like flame wars between everything it's part of IT but right now I'm just too tired
20101210 22:21:59< iwontbecreative> I was just joking
20101210 22:22:04< timotei> :D
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20101210 22:26:26< timotei> is this what the looby should look like?? http://imagebin.org/127331
20101210 22:26:30< timotei> it seems a bit...
20101210 22:26:39< timotei> (without the sound OSD)
20101210 22:27:31< timotei> oky doky
20101210 22:27:38< timotei> time to create the tasks:D
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20101210 22:41:40< timotei> hmm, shadowmaster do you think I should split the video creation for the UMC plugin for linux in some parts?
20101210 22:41:46< timotei> that is, for some of the most used distros?
20101210 22:41:53< timotei> Debian, ubuntu, fedora, suse?
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20101210 22:41:59< timotei> or just linux is fine?
20101210 22:42:00< timotei> :-?
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20101210 22:47:37< timotei> fendrin: ^
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20101210 22:48:19< fendrin> timotei: No, go for a generic linux video.
20101210 22:48:25< timotei> fendrin: ok
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20101210 22:56:23< timotei> hmm, should the wesnoth trailer present 1.9.x features aswell?:)
20101210 22:56:57< Ivanovic> in case you are interested in seeing how wesnoth runs on the pandora: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vb9MWJr0jY&feature=player_embedded
20101210 22:57:05< timotei> Ivanovic: ^
20101210 22:57:09< timotei> or just 1.8.x stuff?
20101210 22:57:27< Ivanovic> okay, the capture is from tv out, the wesnoth part starts at ~3:30
20101210 22:57:32< Ivanovic> timotei: why not two videos?
20101210 22:57:48< Ivanovic> one featuring current stable and one showcasting the new stuff from trunk?
20101210 22:57:54< timotei> yeah
20101210 22:58:19< timotei> should I let the student take a look in player's changelogs, and search for things to showup?
20101210 22:58:25< timotei> or should I make the list?
20101210 22:58:43< timotei> for 1.8.x mainly, since for 1.9.x there are in your announcements
20101210 22:58:52< Ivanovic> you could propose some things and ask the student to search for "even more" in the players_changelog
20101210 22:59:23< timotei> ok
20101210 23:01:27< mordante> I'm off night
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20101210 23:53:42< timotei> Ivanovic: I've added a couple of tasks
20101210 23:53:47< timotei> need to go now to sleep
20101210 23:54:28< timotei> Ivanovic: maybe you could take a quick look oveer them before publishing
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20101210 23:57:06< Ivanovic> timotei: or i just trust in boucman and crab_ handling the looking over and publishing
20101210 23:57:06< timotei> night guys
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20101210 23:57:08< Ivanovic> ;)
20101210 23:57:32< boucman> Ivanovic: i'll have a look tomorow if you havn't
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