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20101230 00:22:45< CIA-84> ai0867 * r48127 /trunk/src/ (game.cpp language.cpp): Ensure that all [language] blocks are loaded properly
20101230 00:22:46< AI0867> Espreon: your fix ^
20101230 00:22:52< Espreon> AI0867: Ah, thank you.
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20101230 02:44:23< kenzy> wesbot seen Crab_
20101230 02:44:29< wesbot> kenzy: Queried user last spoke 21h 22m ago.  Crab_ is currently in this channel.
20101230 02:44:38< Crab_> hello
20101230 02:44:41< kenzy> Crab_ :))
20101230 02:45:14< kenzy> Crab_ that's odd you entered exactly when i was looking for you
20101230 02:45:17< kenzy> hello
20101230 02:45:28< Crab_> sometimes you're not lucky, sometimes you're lucky
20101230 02:45:29< Crab_> happens
20101230 02:46:48< Crab_> how I can help ?
20101230 02:51:19< kenzy> Crab_ well..wanted to see if you were online to accept my claim
20101230 02:51:28< kenzy> and my work
20101230 02:51:49< kenzy> Crab_ http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/wesnoth/t129047209781
20101230 02:54:36< kenzy> thanks
20101230 02:55:38< Crab_> are you 'mircea neb' on google's site ?
20101230 02:55:48< kenzy> yes
20101230 02:55:56< Crab_> ok;
20101230 02:56:48< Crab_> good luck, then :)
20101230 02:56:50< kenzy> a lot of students tried this task
20101230 02:57:14< Crab_> it's not that hard, just requires some time to sit&play
20101230 02:57:29< Crab_> there's a lot of scenarios in there, ~20
20101230 02:57:30< kenzy> Crab_ how long will you stay online
20101230 02:57:40< kenzy> 27-28
20101230 02:57:47< Crab_> for an hour or two today. it's 3:46 am localtime
20101230 02:58:08< kenzy> where are you from?
20101230 02:58:18< Crab_> Kiev, Ukraine
20101230 02:58:31< kenzy> i'm from Romania
20101230 02:58:41< kenzy> so it's also GMT+2
20101230 02:59:00< kenzy> but i wanted to finish this task 
20101230 02:59:00< Crab_> yes, in winter...
20101230 03:00:57< kenzy> Crab_ I will finish soon ;)
20101230 03:01:15< kenzy> Crab_ because i am working on this for a while
20101230 03:02:15< Crab_> ok, ping me if I'll be still here by the time you finish)
20101230 03:02:18< kenzy> Crab_ actually ioi claimed this task for me...to keep it from being taken by others...
20101230 03:02:32< Crab_> yes, I supposed that
20101230 03:03:49< kenzy> Crab_ i don't know if it is because of the game or because of me
20101230 03:04:03< kenzy> Crab_ this is the only "bug" i found
20101230 03:04:26< kenzy> i encounter some troubles when i start wesnoth
20101230 03:04:44< kenzy> it only starts after several tries...
20101230 03:04:51< kenzy> i don't know...
20101230 03:05:11< Crab_> operating system / wesnoth version ?
20101230 03:05:24< kenzy> 193
20101230 03:05:27< kenzy> windows 7
20101230 03:05:44< kenzy> i had 192 and everything was fine
20101230 03:06:43< kenzy> 1.9.2
20101230 03:07:08< kenzy> now it wont start at all :((
20101230 03:07:47< Crab_> well, if, after a reboot, it still happens, you can submit a bug; if there is anything in the console log file (stderr.txt in wesnoth's directory , afair), add it, as well.
20101230 03:07:54< kenzy> Crab_ i looked in stderr
20101230 03:08:19< kenzy> :)) i was just saying about stderr
20101230 03:08:31< kenzy> you look like you're reading my mind
20101230 03:09:01< kenzy> Crab_ Battle for Wesnoth v1.9.3
20101230 03:09:01< kenzy> Started on Thu Dec 30 04:07:19 2010
20101230 03:09:01< kenzy> Automatically found a possible data directory at D:/jocuri/Battle for Wesnoth
20101230 03:09:01< kenzy> Unexpected characters at line start, value ' ' at <unknown>:1
20101230 03:09:10< kenzy> that is in stderr
20101230 03:11:27< kenzy> Crab_ what do you think?
20101230 03:12:30< Crab_> submit a bug; try to remove cache (which is in user data directory, don't know where it's located)
20101230 03:12:45< kenzy> ok
20101230 03:12:47< Crab_> haven't seen this particular error
20101230 03:38:01< kenzy> Crab_ 2 more scenarios...
20101230 03:40:58< Crab_> (don't forget branches, there are several in there...)
20101230 03:41:24< kenzy> Crab_ ok
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20101230 03:56:53< kenzy> Crab_ i don't know what to say
20101230 03:57:02< kenzy> Crab_ at every scenario...
20101230 03:57:41< kenzy> i have 4 scenario left to comment o
20101230 03:57:44< kenzy> on*
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20101230 04:13:19< kenzy> Crab_  http://wiki.wesnoth.org/index.php?title=GCI/Playtesting/Heir_to_the_Throne/Challenging
20101230 04:13:23< kenzy> finished
20101230 04:13:37< kenzy> Crab_ ping?
20101230 04:14:04< kenzy> sorry 
20101230 04:14:06< kenzy> Crab_ http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GCI/Playtesting/Heir_to_the_Throne/Challenging
20101230 04:14:17< Crab_> ( reading... )
20101230 04:20:00< kenzy> what does this mean?
20101230 04:20:02< kenzy> Bad passphrase (not enough different characters or classes for this length) Warning: Savane was not able to read "" site-specific information, please contact administrators
20101230 04:20:13< Crab_> gna.org being buggy)
20101230 04:20:18< kenzy> trying to create an account
20101230 04:20:28< kenzy> so what should i do?
20101230 04:20:33< Crab_> try a different password
20101230 04:20:47< Crab_> it says that your password is too simple, it doesn't like it
20101230 04:21:02< kenzy> aham
20101230 04:21:03< kenzy> ok
20101230 04:23:38< Crab_> ok, I've read the answers. I'd like if you answered question 7 for each scenario, it's, actually, one of the most important questions for us and you've just written the same answer which is not informative because it's not scenario-specific.
20101230 04:24:14< Crab_> and don't forget to submit the link as work to google's tracker, so I'd be able to close the task once it's done.
20101230 04:24:24< kenzy> yes
20101230 04:24:32< kenzy> Crab_ but for the question 7
20101230 04:24:46< kenzy> i really don't know the answer
20101230 04:24:59< kenzy> i mean...what would i change?
20101230 04:25:12< Crab_> yes. any suggestions, ideas, etc
20101230 04:25:18< kenzy> nothing i guess...the game is awsome as it is now 
20101230 04:25:21< kenzy> only
20101230 04:25:25< kenzy> the graphics
20101230 04:25:27< kenzy> are old
20101230 04:26:09< kenzy> or other changes would be
20101230 04:26:18< kenzy> decreasing the number of enemies
20101230 04:26:25< kenzy> because they are  sometimes
20101230 04:26:30< kenzy> overwhelming
20101230 04:26:42< kenzy> but this doesn't help you because
20101230 04:26:45< Crab_> ok; I will, (most probably), close the task as done anyway even in current state, but note that in some of the different playtests people actually were able to suggest useful things, which were scenario-specific.
20101230 04:27:13< Crab_> well, if some of the scenarios are harder/easier than others, it is worthly to know, too
20101230 04:27:37< kenzy> i'll look at other tasks...already done to see some ideas...maybe i'll have some
20101230 04:29:43< kenzy> anyway i want more tasks like this one...
20101230 04:30:28< Crab_> for example, here's one of the most informative playtests - http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GCI/Playtesting/Delfadors_Memours/Hardest (it has a somewhat different set of questions because of agreement with that person, but it has lots of useful info for us)
20101230 04:32:44< kenzy> yeah...it's very good..
20101230 04:34:07< Crab_> night for me
20101230 04:34:17< kenzy> Crab_ night!
20101230 04:34:25< kenzy> good*
20101230 04:34:53< Crab_> (  don't forget to submit the link as work to google's tracker; plus, it will be a good thing if you edit a page a bit if you find things you can say about those scenarios )
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20101230 04:35:03< kenzy> i submitte
20101230 04:35:04< kenzy> d
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20101230 12:19:07< CIA-84> silene * r48128 /trunk/src/ (4 files): Shared faction selection algorithm between host and clients. (Fix for bug #17407.)
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20101230 18:37:50< CIA-84> timotei * r48130 /trunk/projectfiles/VC9/README.txt: fix for bug #16637
20101230 18:42:07< Crendgrim> moin timotei
20101230 18:42:17< timotei> hi Crendgrim 
20101230 18:42:51< Espreon> Ic grete eow.
20101230 18:43:13< Crendgrim> Did you find out anything about bug #17390? (the thing with the Eclipse UMC plugin on 64bit systems)
20101230 18:45:24< timotei> Crendgrim: I'll try on windows too
20101230 18:47:01< timotei> Crendgrim: did you try the developer way?
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20101230 18:47:20< Crendgrim> Yes, after it didn't work first ... as described in the forum. 
20101230 18:47:42< Crendgrim> But using the dev. way or using the standalone app doesn't make any difference for me... :
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20101230 18:48:23< Crendgrim> the only difference is that by going the dev. way I've got two windows instead of only one..
20101230 18:50:24< Crendgrim> however, it would be great to have everything in one application
20101230 18:51:24< timotei> Crendgrim: ok, so you are experiencing that on all platforms
20101230 18:51:35< timotei> I'm on winx64 atm, and dev works ok.
20101230 18:51:42< timotei> trying with plugin install from website
20101230 18:51:44< timotei> to see if it works:)
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20101230 18:54:22< Crendgrim> I don't know how you mean that "escperience it on all platforms" - I'm only able to use 64bit Linux atm... (only for clarification)
20101230 18:54:56< timotei> oh, sorry, my bad. I wanted to say: on all combinations :P
20101230 18:55:01< timotei> dev/standalone/user
20101230 18:56:22< Crendgrim> ah.. 
20101230 18:56:58< Crendgrim> the standalone app I didn't try yet (since there were dl's with higher priority and my internet connection is very, very bad)
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20101230 19:00:50< timotei> ok
20101230 19:03:39< timotei> Crendgrim: hmm, on windows x64 doesn't work either
20101230 19:03:46< timotei> I'll dig into it
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20101230 19:04:41< Crendgrim> did you also try the standalone app on win x64?
20101230 19:04:54< timotei> Crendgrim: the standalone app works
20101230 19:05:08< timotei> I guess there's something with the latest build
20101230 19:05:24< Crendgrim> latest build of eclipse or the plugin?
20101230 19:05:29< timotei> plugin
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20101230 19:21:37< Crendgrim> timotei: The standalone app does work - even if I'm asked four times whether I want it to create projects out of my existing add-ons... 
20101230 19:23:47< timotei> Crendgrim: ^_^
20101230 19:25:03< Crendgrim> looks great ... I think this is better than using only a plain text editor. Thanks for your work :) Can't wait to see the bug solved.. ;)
20101230 19:25:20< timotei> Crendgrim: well, and will be in future even better
20101230 19:25:31< timotei> but I didn't thought the 2nd year will be so full
20101230 19:25:32< timotei> :(
20101230 19:25:41< timotei> I barely find time to work on the plugin
20101230 19:25:58< timotei> maybe I'll get another chance next year to finish and polish the current features
20101230 19:26:12< Crendgrim> But I think the most important stuff is done - it looks really usable.
20101230 19:26:30< timotei> and of course, when the schema file will be able to be able to be generated automatically based on current C++ code. 
20101230 19:26:34< timotei> That will be awesome
20101230 19:26:51< Crendgrim> yes...
20101230 19:27:03< timotei> me and fendrin were discussing about adding the feature of multiple wesnoth installs
20101230 19:27:13< timotei> without needing multiple apps
20101230 19:27:31< Crendgrim> that also sounds interesting... 
20101230 19:28:01< timotei> yep, but it is a bit impossible due to some technical things in the eclipse's framework
20101230 19:28:12< Crendgrim> especially for the future. I don't think it's needed by now since there's only 1.9.3 what's really interesting ...
20101230 19:31:59< timotei> I'll be satisfied with the plugin when it will replace the Emacs WML Mode :D
20101230 19:33:13< Crendgrim> ... hmm.. why are .lua files opened with OOo Writer? *search through all configs*
20101230 19:33:32< timotei> Crendgrim: is that from the plugin?
20101230 19:33:37< timotei> or from your system?
20101230 19:33:55< Crendgrim> I don't know yet...
20101230 19:34:06< timotei> I guess the latter
20101230 19:34:56< Crendgrim> from the plugin...
20101230 19:35:05< timotei> lol?
20101230 19:35:17< Crendgrim> my file browser wants to open it with KWrite (a plain text editor), while the plugin wants to use OOo...
20101230 19:35:25< timotei> hmm
20101230 19:35:43< Crendgrim> hm... in my configuration OOo is the second program associated with it...
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20101230 19:37:21< Crendgrim> restarting the plugin takes much time .. *waiting*
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20101230 19:38:43< Crendgrim> now he doesn't show any more anything in the workspace...
20101230 19:38:57< Crendgrim> ah.. there it is.
20101230 19:38:59< timotei> project explorer?
20101230 19:38:59< timotei> :D
20101230 19:39:02< Crendgrim> yep
20101230 19:39:04< timotei> oh
20101230 19:39:06< timotei> wait a sec
20101230 19:39:08< timotei> it seems
20101230 19:39:09< timotei> the signing
20101230 19:39:13< timotei> breaks the plugin:(
20101230 19:39:30< Crendgrim> funny...
20101230 19:39:31< timotei> so, the unsigned version of the plugin
20101230 19:39:32< timotei> works
20101230 19:39:37< timotei> :(
20101230 19:39:40< Crendgrim> hm..
20101230 19:40:05< Crendgrim> after setting OOo down in the list in my configuration, saving it and restarting the plugin he opens the files with the correct editor..
20101230 19:40:31< timotei> yeah
20101230 19:41:54< Crendgrim> well.. the standalone plugin seems to work now.
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20101230 19:59:58< CIA-84> timotei * r48131 /trunk/utils/java/plugin_feature/signing.cmd: eclipse plugin: unharcode script's version
20101230 20:00:10< CIA-84> timotei * r48132 /trunk/utils/java/plugin_feature/signing.cmd: eclipse plugin: fix a variable typo
20101230 20:00:20< CIA-84> timotei * r48133 /trunk/utils/java/update_site/site.xml: eclipse plugin: update the site with latest version
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20101230 20:26:45< CIA-84> timotei * r48134 /website/eclipse.wesnoth.org/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Un-sign the jars. Fix for bug #17390
20101230 20:26:51< timotei> Crendgrim: ^
20101230 20:27:26< Crendgrim> cool... thanks a lot :) I'll try it
20101230 20:27:32< timotei> yw
20101230 20:35:06< Crendgrim> there _is_ the Wesnoth menu. :D
20101230 20:38:53< timotei> :D
20101230 20:40:04< Crendgrim> great... thanks :)
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