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wesnoth 20101212 00:37:37< Feufochmar> ==> If "dma" doesn't work,other options are: dsp,alsa,artsc,esd,nas try to find the right output. 20101212 00:40:25-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20101212 00:41:57-!- rork [~quassel@ip4da9d28f.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101212 00:51:44-!- HosenJack [~FYMLIFYM@xdsl-84-44-175-165.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101212 00:57:11-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 01:14:33-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20101212 01:14:37-!- phlaem [~a@e178188216.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101212 01:28:17-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-21-251-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101212 01:28:50-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-21-251-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 01:32:04-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101212 01:55:10-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.196.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20101212 02:01:26-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20101212 02:04:49-!- Blueblaze2 [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-185-8-49.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 02:04:54-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-148-246-6.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20101212 02:04:55-!- Blueblaze2 is now known as Blueblaze 20101212 02:08:05-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.203.154] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 02:10:18-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 02:11:23-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 02:19:00-!- Blueblaze2 [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-148-245-165.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 02:19:49-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-185-8-49.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20101212 02:19:49-!- Blueblaze2 is now known as Blueblaze 20101212 02:37:17-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@79.117.22.113] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 02:37:17-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@79.117.22.113] has quit [Changing host] 20101212 02:37:17-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 02:39:12-!- vbc666 [57c467a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.196.103.163] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 02:43:47-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has quit [Quit: #AncientBeast - Free Fantasy MO TBS RPG] 20101212 02:46:30-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20101212 02:46:35-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101212 02:56:28-!- Aloice [62c37ece@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.195.126.206] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 03:08:18-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-21-251-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20101212 03:12:55-!- Mike1_ [~Michael@188-23-40-7.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 03:15:48-!- Mike1_ is now known as Mike1 20101212 03:19:40-!- Mike1 [~Michael@188-23-40-7.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20101212 03:23:24-!- TC01 [~knoppix@pool-96-227-93-158.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 03:43:10-!- TC01 [~knoppix@pool-96-227-93-158.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101212 03:49:00-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20101212 04:05:27-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-148-245-165.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20101212 04:14:26-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 04:18:32-!- vbc666 [57c467a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.196.103.163] has quit [] 20101212 04:24:29-!- Aloice [62c37ece@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.195.126.206] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20101212 04:31:09-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db23f80.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 04:34:19-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101212 04:35:05-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20101212 04:35:19-!- hagabaka [~hagabaka@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 04:35:36< hagabaka> is scons the supported way to build wesnoth? 20101212 04:36:14< Gambit> Scons and make 20101212 04:38:26< shadowmaster> no 20101212 04:38:44< shadowmaster> scons, cmake and autotools. None of them is better supported than the other. 20101212 04:41:39< hagabaka> on arch linux, with scons I get error "/usr/bin/ld: invalid hash style `gnu -Wl'", and the last printed command starts with g++ -o wesnoth -pthread "-Wl,--hash-style=gnu -Wl,--as-needed". the double quoted part is my LDFLAGS, but I think it should not be quoted in the command line 20101212 04:44:38-!- DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20101212 04:47:50-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 04:51:44-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20101212 05:06:29-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has left #wesnoth [] 20101212 05:06:49-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 05:20:09-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 05:20:15-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101212 05:20:16-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101212 05:23:49-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: ...] 20101212 05:25:31-!- neila [55b2a83d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.178.168.61] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 05:25:43< neila> i have a little UnitWML question 20101212 05:26:34 * Cookiee watchs the dog do its thing to Espreon 20101212 05:26:40< neila> i wanna create a line of units that are 99% like existing units 20101212 05:27:09< shadowmaster> neila: that is feasible using the [base_unit] tag inside [unit_type]s 20101212 05:27:26< neila> is there a way to create a without copying it but by just overiding its ... ahh 20101212 05:27:39< neila> ok so [base_unit] works on an 20101212 05:27:56< neila> i mean inside a [unit_type] 20101212 05:28:39< shadowmaster> notice that http://wiki.wesnoth.org/UnitTypeWML documents all of [unit_type] including [base_unit], near the end 20101212 05:29:58< neila> yeah thanks i just saw that .. i somehow missed that line, only saw 20101212 05:30:22< neila> [variation" and the inherit in the male/female 20101212 05:30:32< neila> thanks alot all 20101212 05:30:45< neila> or thanks shadowmaster 20101212 05:30:54< shadowmaster> no problem 20101212 05:31:11< neila> one last question 20101212 05:31:42< neila> if there is a line of units that need all 100xp for example to level to the next 20101212 05:32:06< neila> if i give the 1st in the line 300xp in an event 20101212 05:32:14< neila> wiill it level 3 steps automatic ? 20101212 05:32:39< shadowmaster> by default, yes 20101212 05:33:04< neila> k i feared there would be a problem 20101212 05:33:19< shadowmaster> it's always worth a try ;) 20101212 05:33:31< neila> because of "When this unit has experience greater than or equal to experience, it is replaced by a unit with 0 experience of the type that the value of advances_to refers to." 20101212 05:41:49< neila> but now i have another problem, when using [base_unit] is it posible to remove attacks ? 20101212 05:42:49< shadowmaster> hm..I think not. 20101212 05:43:51< neila> effectWML cannot be used there, right ? 20101212 05:44:35< shadowmaster> nope 20101212 05:44:58< shadowmaster> you could probably hack around that using [event]s inside the [unit_type] though 20101212 05:45:11< shadowmaster> recruit or recall events, for example 20101212 05:45:22< neila> ah ok i see 20101212 05:45:40< neila> maybe better to just copie the units 20101212 05:46:05< neila> but i hoped to avoid that for maintenance reasons 20101212 05:54:37-!- Feufochmar [~Feufochma@166.82.69-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20101212 05:56:24-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]] 20101212 05:59:42-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 06:04:33-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-73-62-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 06:04:33-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-73-62-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 20101212 06:04:33-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 06:05:33-!- veg^ [~veg@178.125.191.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20101212 06:07:00< neila> im such a noob here .. i cant even figgure out how to let a unit apear on a map 20101212 06:07:41< fendrin> hi neila 20101212 06:07:50< fendrin> neila: do you need help with wml= 20101212 06:07:52< fendrin> ? 20101212 06:07:58< neila> yes, actualy i want to create a unit on every village 20101212 06:08:05< fendrin> uh 20101212 06:08:24< fendrin> that is already an intermediate task, let's see. 20101212 06:08:48< fendrin> neila: You need to store the locations of each village. 20101212 06:08:53< fendrin> Into a variable. 20101212 06:09:08< fendrin> Then you need a foreach loop to create the units. 20101212 06:09:37< neila> [store_locations] variable=unitplacement terrain=*^V* 20101212 06:10:13< fendrin> neila: I would go with [store_villages] 20101212 06:10:20< neila> ah cool 20101212 06:10:32< neila> but how is a foreach done here 20101212 06:10:49< neila> and the main question how to create a unit at x,y ? 20101212 06:11:16< fendrin> neila: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ConditionalActionsWML ; there you can read how to use the foreach macro 20101212 06:11:22< fendrin> and a unit is easy 20101212 06:11:35< fendrin> [unit] x=3 y=5 .... 20101212 06:12:17< fendrin> in your case you will need something like x=$variable_where_the_villages_are_stored.x 20101212 06:12:52< neila> like [unit] id=spearman side=1 ... 20101212 06:12:58< fendrin> yes 20101212 06:15:02-!- iwaim [~iwaim@ns1.alib.jp] has quit [Quit: Tiarra 0.1+svn-13084: SIGTERM received; exit] 20101212 06:15:52-!- iwaim [~iwaim@ns1.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 06:21:25-!- iwaim [~iwaim@ns1.alib.jp] has quit [Quit: Tiarra 0.1+svn-13084: SIGINT received; exit] 20101212 06:21:28< fendrin> neila: Does it work? 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thing to work 20101212 08:29:20< neila> i wanna do something for every side that has a player in turn 1 20101212 08:29:28< neila> (actualy spawn a unit) 20101212 08:29:48< neila> but somehow the stuff i copied dont work 20101212 08:34:40-!- drry [~drry@unaffiliated/drry] has quit [Quit: Tiarra 0.1+svn-38663M: SIGTERM received; exit] 20101212 08:41:24-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.203.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20101212 08:47:13-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20101212 08:50:20-!- C27 [~chatzilla@c-98-247-251-224.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]] 20101212 09:04:51-!- drry [~drry@unaffiliated/drry] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 09:07:28-!- neila [55b2a83d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.178.168.61] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20101212 09:07:54-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 09:08:21-!- Hellrider 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11:31:43< neila> actualy im only interrested in locations that have 4 or more neighbours who are "flat" 20101212 11:32:48< Crendgrim> so you want to collect all hexes with terrain=Gg (for example) in an array? 20101212 11:33:07< neila> that i can already 20101212 11:33:54< neila> i wand the array only have those hexes that have 4 or more neighbours being Gg, Rd, .. and some more 20101212 11:34:01< Crendgrim> ok... 20101212 11:34:09< Crendgrim> try this: (not tested) 20101212 11:35:12< Crendgrim> [store_locations] 20101212 11:35:14< Crendgrim> [filter_adjacent_location] 20101212 11:35:15< Crendgrim> terrain=Gg,Rd 20101212 11:35:17< Crendgrim> [/filter_adjacent_location] 20101212 11:35:18< Crendgrim> variable=mylocs 20101212 11:35:20< Crendgrim> [/store_locations] 20101212 11:35:23< Crendgrim> stop... 20101212 11:35:33< Crendgrim> no. 20101212 11:36:02< Crendgrim> you have to add a "count=4" to the filter_adjacent_location 20101212 11:36:20< neila> ah ... count may work there ? 20101212 11:36:33< Crendgrim> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/StandardLocationFilter 20101212 11:37:01-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20101212 11:37:06< Crendgrim> scroll a bit down, there's the definition of [filter_adjacent_location] 20101212 11:37:24-!- Mussious [~kamil@dfx51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101212 11:38:56< neila> would your example also work when i add a terain=xx to the outer filter also ? 20101212 11:39:09< neila> i mean the store location 20101212 11:40:03-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 11:40:57< neila> and another question is the "mylocs" is not empty . does it add the items or does it get replaced ? 20101212 11:41:40< Crendgrim> @ your first question: yes, of course.. 20101212 11:42:11< Crendgrim> @ your second question: wait short, I'll look what the default is... 20101212 11:44:01< Crendgrim> I don't find how to manage it .. there was a way how you can influence that behavior. But I think by default the variable is replaced. 20101212 11:45:39< neila> thanks alot ... im testing now this new aproach, something i did always wrong before 20101212 11:51:26< neila> that seemed to work pretty well 20101212 11:51:27-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgm61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 11:51:41< Crendgrim> great :) 20101212 11:51:59< neila> but the and and not stuff still confuses me 20101212 11:52:35< neila> actualy i would like to extend the filter to ignore locations that NOT have units of some sides around 20101212 11:53:04< neila> or maybe i do that differen , hmm 20101212 11:57:34< Crendgrim> quote of "StandardLocationFilter": "# [filter] with a StandardUnitFilter as argument; if present a unit must also be there " 20101212 11:58:28< Crendgrim> so .. try adding a [filter][/filter] to the filter_adjacent_location tag 20101212 11:59:04< neila> so [not][filter][/filter][/not] might also work ? 20101212 12:00:11< Crendgrim> that would cause the engine to only select hexes without units on it, I guess... 20101212 12:00:27< neila> im trying 20101212 12:03:36< neila> getting a wiered error .. checking for mistakes 20101212 12:09:53-!- ancestral [~ancestral@174-30-224-142.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 12:13:44-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20101212 12:19:04-!- Crendgrim [~crend@p54A0785A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101212 12:21:28-!- Nissarin [~nissarin@91.202.192.6] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 12:26:29-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@79.117.20.183] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 12:26:29-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@79.117.20.183] has quit [Changing host] 20101212 12:26:29-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 12:27:14-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgm61.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20101212 12:43:31-!- veg^ [~veg@178.125.144.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101212 12:44:05-!- Crendgrim [~crend@p54A0785A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 12:44:43< Crendgrim> sry, neila. I got disconnected. Do you have any new problems? 20101212 12:45:11-!- pothi [~pothi@122.164.173.174] has left #wesnoth [] 20101212 12:45:56-!- mysticX [~X@2a01:238:4000:0:3938:a675:e825:6684] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 12:48:45< neila> yeah i get a strange error message when trying to use [filter] inside a [store_location] 20101212 12:49:41< Crendgrim> what sort of? 20101212 12:52:22< neila> my wesnoth is german .. after i switched it to english beacause the message was only half translated 20101212 12:52:31< neila> the message dont come anymore 20101212 12:52:49< neila> but the map is not in the list of multiplayer games 20101212 12:53:46< neila> arg maybe i just putted a ";" somewhere else :) 20101212 12:54:10< neila> im to much a programmer in imperative languages lile C# and Pascal 20101212 13:00:12-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has left #wesnoth ["OH. 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Maybe try the WML workshop forum 20101212 14:18:26< neila> and im sure it would be better to make it in 1 querry 20101212 14:18:37< Gambit> Filters Are Hardâ„¢ 20101212 14:18:42< neila> yeah 20101212 14:20:38< zookeeper> uh, what is it you want? 20101212 14:21:34< neila> i think i found a way 20101212 14:22:00< neila> just an [and]radius=10 [not][filter] ... 20101212 14:22:02< neila> did it 20101212 14:22:18< zookeeper> yes, radius is always evaluated last so you often have to wrap it in an [and[ 20101212 14:22:23-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20101212 14:22:33< Gambit> zookeeper: store a circle of hexes radius 1 of a specific terrain type with no units in radius 10 20101212 14:22:58< neila> is there a way to look for units of multiple sides (but not all) without another and ? 20101212 14:23:11< neila> like side=1,2,3 ? 20101212 14:23:24-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] 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14:32:34-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 14:33:11< zookeeper> so... 20101212 14:34:06< zookeeper> you want to store hexes which are 1) grass, 2) surrounded by Gg,Rd,Hh,Re,Rp,Gs*, 3) at least 3 hexes away from all units and 4) at least 15 hexes away from all side=1,2,3,4,5,6 units? 20101212 14:34:50< neila> yes .. sorry 20101212 14:35:44< zookeeper> okay, your [and]s aren't working right, i think. for example the first [and] just tells the game that any location which is 3 hexes away from any location without a unit is ok. 20101212 14:36:02< zookeeper> try moving the radius= key inside the [not] in both [and]s 20101212 14:36:23< zookeeper> (well, in that case you can also just get rid of the [and]s) 20101212 14:36:40< neila> ok i try 20101212 14:38:33< neila> i keeped the ands atm and it seems to work 20101212 14:38:57< zookeeper> ok, great 20101212 14:38:59< neila> i think you wanted to say that a list of NO's is automatic and 20101212 14:39:22< zookeeper> but you can still get rid of the [and]s, since an [and] [not] works exactly like a [not] 20101212 14:40:00< neila> yeh .. i try that now .. also have to make my radiuses at bit smaller since the map seems not beg enough for that limits 20101212 14:43:41< neila> thank you all alot 20101212 14:43:50< neila> that seems to work perfect 20101212 14:55:24-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 14:59:37-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20101212 15:16:52-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20101212 15:23:25-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20101212 15:40:30< neila> again i cant figgure out somthing that is suposed to be very easy i wanna give XP to a unit 20101212 15:40:48< neila> i think i should use store_unit /unstore 20101212 15:41:05< neila> but noowhere it says what variables are in a unit 20101212 15:42:24< zookeeper> neila, a savefile will always tell you 20101212 15:42:36< zookeeper> but most can be inferred from SingleUnitWML, like unit.experience 20101212 15:43:03< neila> i thought expirience is the amout it needs ? 20101212 15:43:34< zookeeper> no, unit.max_experience is 20101212 15:44:08< neila> ah, ok ... becase in the "unit_type" key its without max, right? 20101212 15:44:23< zookeeper> also there's http://wiki.wesnoth.org/InternalActionsWMLUnitTags but it might be very out of date. 20101212 15:44:49-!- Mike1_ [~Michael@188-23-208-21.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 15:45:07< zookeeper> neila, no, the singleunit keys just are .experience and .max_experience, there's no particular reason for that. 20101212 15:45:11< neila> oh yeah .. thanks 20101212 15:46:31< zookeeper> anyway, when in doubt just open up a savefile and look how units are stored there. pretty much anything you see there can be changed with [store_unit]->[set_variable]->[unstore_unit]. unit.image would be one of the exceptions. 20101212 15:47:49-!- Mike1 [~Michael@91-113-6-114.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20101212 16:00:48< neila> great tip -- thanks zookeper 20101212 16:00:50-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-108-250-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 16:10:31< neila> somehow store_units dont work like i tought 20101212 16:10:45< neila> [store_units] [filter] side=7 [/filter] variable=defenders [/store_units] 20101212 16:10:55< neila> after defenders.length = 0 20101212 16:11:10< neila> $defenders.length sorry :) 20101212 16:13:08< zookeeper> no one said anything about [store_unitS]... 20101212 16:14:59< neila> oh :D 20101212 16:17:25< neila> thanks im a bit of a blind ideot here 20101212 16:29:18-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@117.204.169.255] has joined #wesnoth 20101212 16:29:20-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@117.204.169.255] has quit [Changing host] 20101212 16:29:20-!- Cyber_Rock 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