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20101214 03:08:44< [Relic]> Hello :)
20101214 03:14:12< Gambit> Is wesnoth.org excruciatingly slow for anyone else?
20101214 03:14:53< VurtualRuler98> It took half a second to fill up half the little green thingy!
20101214 03:15:11< VurtualRuler98> But the page was already readable.
20101214 03:15:50< Gambit> Everything keeps timing out here.
20101214 03:15:54< Gambit> The forums, the add-on server.
20101214 03:16:35< VurtualRuler98> Can you ping the site?
20101214 03:17:14 * Gambit apologizes  to wesnoth.org
20101214 03:17:20< Gambit> The playstation network just timed out -_-
20101214 03:17:39 * Gambit goes to find what family member is clogging the tubes
20101214 03:19:04< VurtualRuler98> It's dangerous to go alone, take this.
20101214 03:19:11 * VurtualRuler98 gives Gambit the dd-wrt router page
20101214 03:19:35< VurtualRuler98> Find out the IP of the sapper, then check every computer?
20101214 03:19:50< VurtualRuler98> Then if they don't relent, just disconnect them.
20101214 03:21:19< Gambit> Nobody else is using the internet. It's either the ISP or the snowstorm.
20101214 03:24:41< VurtualRuler98> Yeah man, snowstorms are always leeching bandwidth
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20101214 03:25:40< VurtualRuler98> ...there's two computers on my network that I can't identify. Hmm.
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20101214 03:28:31< Gambit> With my family's non-nonchalant security habits it wouldn't surprise me if one or more of the windows users are part of a bot-net or some such thing.
20101214 03:32:22< VurtualRuler98> Wouldn't that make it just chalant?
20101214 03:33:02< Gambit> hmmm. Darn spellchecker.
20101214 03:33:14< VurtualRuler98> nonchalant means to not care, by the way
20101214 03:33:22< VurtualRuler98> The closest word in usage would be http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chaloir#Old_French chaloir
20101214 03:33:26< VurtualRuler98> which means to care or worry
20101214 03:33:37< Gambit> I right clicked non-chalant and chose nonchalant.
20101214 03:33:45< Gambit> Apparently that didn't remove the non-
20101214 03:33:57< VurtualRuler98> Although you've basically only said they don't not care, so they care some value more than zero, of an abritrary description
20101214 03:34:11< VurtualRuler98> I think I could care less about this though.
20101214 03:37:16< VurtualRuler98> I wish I could.
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20101214 10:11:51< Ivanovic> moin
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20101214 20:27:34< veg^> i have arch linux and in multiplayer internet game lobby mouse cursor freezes for 1 second when it updates game list.
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20101214 20:28:11< joo> veg^, it does that to me too
20101214 20:28:30< joo> I think it's just a shitty implementation. It no longer does it in 1.9
20101214 20:28:53< veg^> oh okay
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20101214 20:29:10< joo> although your question was valid
20101214 20:29:17< joo> As there might be some kind of solution
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20101214 20:29:29< joo> Which I'd like to hear myself
20101214 20:29:51< shadowmaster> is it really that much of a problem?
20101214 20:31:00< joo> It's irritating.
20101214 20:31:04< joo> But, no, not really.
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20101214 20:33:04< Mike1> Hi! Does anyone here know this visual glitches and propably a fix? http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=import1jg00.png
20101214 20:33:13< joo> is #wesnoth-lobbydev for server development?
20101214 20:34:06< joo> it doesn't follow the syntax of the other channels! It should be #wesnoth-lobby-dev
20101214 20:34:11 * joo OCDs
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20101214 20:37:23< Soliton> it's rather for the lobby GUI so client side.
20101214 20:38:22< joo> Interseting that that needs its own channel. Some intense discussion about that?
20101214 20:38:33< Crendgrim> @Mike1: I saw something similar in the forums today... wait a moment, I'll search for it
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20101214 20:39:21< Soliton> joo: that was the idea but it's pretty much dead.
20101214 20:39:35< joo> Woohoo.
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20101214 20:41:05< Crendgrim> @Mike1: Your problem looks a bit like this: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32423
20101214 20:41:12< Crendgrim> I don't know whether this helps..
20101214 20:41:46< Mike1> Crendgrim: yeah, it’s exactly the same problem
20101214 20:41:53< Crendgrim> (I mean, if bookmarking that thread is helpful since you've got the same problem.)
20101214 20:42:11< Mike1> I wonder if that guy uses an Intel Graphics HD too, I’m suspecting the drivers …
20101214 20:43:03< Crendgrim> could be possible...
20101214 20:43:41< Mike1> he uses Fedora too, could be a Fedora-specific problem
20101214 20:43:48< Crendgrim> do you also use Fedora?
20101214 20:43:52< Mike1> yes
20101214 20:44:04< Crendgrim> 32 or 64 bit?
20101214 20:44:20< Mike1> 64bits
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20101214 20:45:02< Crendgrim> maybe the Fedora Intel 64bit driver ...
20101214 20:45:36< Mike1> though I use a custom 2.6.36 kernel
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20101214 20:48:25< Mike1> which does not matter because the problem occured with the 2.6.35 fedora kernel too
20101214 20:48:44< Crendgrim> do you have got a forum account?
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20101214 20:49:24< Mike1> Crendgrim: no
20101214 20:51:00< Crendgrim> am I allowed to post your problem / our thoughts about it in the mentioned thread so the thread author / other people can think about it, too?
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20101214 20:51:47< shadowmaster> yes
20101214 20:52:08< shadowmaster> (if you needed a moderator's confirmation, that is)
20101214 20:53:24< Crendgrim> thanks shadowmaster .. but it was more my intention to have a "yes" from Mike1 since it's his problem ;)
20101214 20:53:41< Mike1> Crendgrim: sure
20101214 20:54:19< Mike1> I’m building the 1.9.3 right now to see if building it myself and/or the latest version fix it
20101214 20:54:23< Crendgrim> k .. I'll do so
20101214 20:54:34< Crendgrim> that would be very interesting ...
20101214 20:54:57< Crendgrim> I think I wait for the result before I post the other stuff
20101214 20:55:32< Mike1> Checking for Boost thread library... no
20101214 20:55:50< Mike1> but
20101214 20:55:52< Mike1> Package boost-thread-1.44.0-1.fc14.x86_64 already installed and latest version
20101214 20:56:02< Soliton> -devel
20101214 20:56:04< shadowmaster> install the dev files for boost.system
20101214 20:56:12< shadowmaster> and that
20101214 20:56:35< Mike1> I only got a boost-devel which is allready installed too
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20101214 20:58:44< Soliton> i think only libana uses boost.thread? you could disable that.
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20101214 21:03:09< Mike1> interessting, when I do ./autogen.sh and run ./configure it complains about SDL without reason -_-
20101214 21:03:23< Mike1> checking for SDL - version >= 1.2.7 and SDL_ttf - version >= 2.0.8... no
20101214 21:03:24< Mike1> configure: error: *** Please upgrade your SDL and/or SDL_ttf version
20101214 21:03:39< Mike1> SDL_ttf-2.0.10-1.fc14.x86_64
20101214 21:03:50< Mike1> SDL-1.2.14-8.fc14.x86_64
20101214 21:04:06< Mike1> those two are installed
20101214 21:04:18< Crendgrim> also the -dev files?
20101214 21:05:16< Mike1> oh, the SDL_ttf-devel was missing
20101214 21:05:46< Mike1> but it’s strange that SCONS did not complain about it
20101214 21:08:09< Mike1> ./configure ran through!
20101214 21:08:17< Mike1> without complaining about boost :D
20101214 21:09:20< Crendgrim> shadowmaster?
20101214 21:10:00< Crendgrim> Maybe you know how scons works... if I run scons, it only compiles (because it has no root privileges) - is there also a way to install it?
20101214 21:10:14< Crendgrim> (it = Wesnoth)
20101214 21:10:24< Mike1> looks like scons has more than one flaw
20101214 21:10:45< shadowmaster> he has the browser component called Chromiumdo scons install or something like that
20101214 21:10:48< shadowmaster> er.
20101214 21:10:55< shadowmaster> IIRC sudo scons install or something like that
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20101214 21:11:20< shadowmaster> loonycyborg knows better how it works than any of us, and I haven't installed Wesnoth since ages.
20101214 21:11:22< Crendgrim> Chromiumdo? :o Thanks..
20101214 21:14:21< Mike1> wow, make’ing Wesnoth takes quite some time, even on my nice new Core i5
20101214 21:15:01< Unnheulu> Are you using all 5 cores?
20101214 21:15:19< shadowmaster> make -j 5
20101214 21:15:45< Unnheulu> shadowmaster, make -j 7
20101214 21:15:58< Unnheulu> 1.5*no. of cores ;)
20101214 21:16:11< shadowmaster> Unnheulu: make -j 8 is what I use for Mesa on a dual-core AMD 
20101214 21:16:18< shadowmaster> it works like a charm
20101214 21:16:50< shadowmaster> can't do that with Wesnoth because it tends to eat the RAM when compiling certain object files
20101214 21:19:55< Rhonda> i5 doesn't have 5 cores …
20101214 21:20:25< Unnheulu> make -j 6 then >.>
20101214 21:20:32 * Rhonda shakes her head in disbelieve.
20101214 21:21:23< Mike1> it compiles and compiles
20101214 21:21:39< Mike1> I don’t want to imagine how much longer it would take on older systems
20101214 21:21:50< Unnheulu> I thought the i5 was like an x4 from AMD :P
20101214 21:22:04< Crendgrim> on my Quad Core it took about a hour IIRC
20101214 21:22:42< Mike1> Core 0:      +76.0°C
20101214 21:22:47< Mike1> getting pretty hot too
20101214 21:23:06< Mike1> finished :)
20101214 21:25:10< shadowmaster> Mike1: takes around 30 minutes or more here, from scratch
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20101214 21:25:59< Crendgrim> oh.. I meant half an hour, sry
20101214 21:26:09< Mike1> mhhhhhhh, do I have to make install it? It complains about missing fonts when I just run src/wesnoth
20101214 21:26:29< shadowmaster> src/wesnoth .
20101214 21:29:28< Mike1> Cache directory: /home/mike/.cache/wesnoth
20101214 21:29:30< Mike1> 20101214 21:29:08 error filesystem: Trying to open file with empty name.
20101214 21:29:31< Mike1> 20101214 21:29:08 error config: Could not open file 
20101214 21:29:33< Mike1> could not initialize fonts
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20101214 21:30:11< Mike1> that’s the last lines
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20101214 21:33:02< Mike1> aaah
20101214 21:33:03< Mike1> got it
20101214 21:33:04< Dipseydoodle> Unnheulu: Hello
20101214 21:33:10< Unnheulu> Hello
20101214 21:33:41< Mike1> Crendgrim, shadowmaster: same visual glitches
20101214 21:33:52< Mike1> Battle for Wesnoth v1.9.3
20101214 21:33:56< Crendgrim> k... thx
20101214 21:34:00< Crendgrim> I'll post it
20101214 21:36:35< Dipseydoodle> Unnheulu: Have time to chat?
20101214 21:36:47< Unnheulu> Yeah
20101214 21:36:55< Unnheulu> Pm though, not in a public chat
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20101214 21:39:37< Dipseydoodle> Ok.
20101214 21:40:56< Mike1> Crendgrim: thank you! :)
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20101214 21:42:46< Crendgrim> no problem.
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20101214 21:47:15 * Mike1 is longing for a fix
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