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20110101 00:03:29< skyfaller> actually, all of my grunts are injured, and there is a mage present with a lieutenant available, so perhaps this is the situation I've been looking for
20110101 00:04:03< Crab_> well, save and see what happens if you don't retreat :)
20110101 00:07:17< skyfaller> I'm pretty sure everything dies unless I get super lucky :)
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20110101 00:07:29< Crab_> :)
20110101 00:07:50< skyfaller> now I'm trying to think like the AI
20110101 00:07:59< skyfaller> and failing
20110101 00:08:21< skyfaller> alright, let's think of this 3 ways: raise, check, fold :)
20110101 00:08:45< skyfaller> so I'll do one scenario where I attack, one scenario where I try to hold position defensively, and one where I pull out
20110101 00:10:05< Crab_> we wanted to do a 'pull out'
20110101 00:11:06< Crab_> so, I'd code something, then open your save, and let the AI play 1 turn, and I want to see it pull out to the location where it makes sense to pull out to.
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20110101 00:28:19< skyfaller> alright, I have a savegame where I try to retreat...
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20110101 00:37:40< skyfaller> Crab_: posted: http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=32688&p=472260#p472260
20110101 00:42:32< skyfaller> blergh, that wasn't the best position
20110101 00:52:04< Ivanovic> happy new year
20110101 00:52:19< shadowmaster> happy new year, UTC!
20110101 00:52:27< shadowmaster> (and UTC+01:00, and UTC+02:00, and...)
20110101 00:54:02< Ivanovic> nah, UTC is still 7min away!
20110101 00:54:10< shadowmaster> 6
20110101 00:57:13< skyfaller> if I have to rethink it twice, does that mean there is not a "simple and good" way to fall back?
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20110101 01:39:56< Crab_> skyfaller: well, maybe 'simple and good enough than none' will be abequate as well
20110101 01:40:51< Crab_> as of now, AI can't do it at all, if it would be able to do it even in some cases, it might be interesting
20110101 01:41:27< skyfaller> I mean that the scenarios I am coming up with seem too complex with ZoC to be realistically within the AI's grasp :P
20110101 01:41:34< skyfaller> defensive lines are hard
20110101 01:42:02< Crab_> yes, hard
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20110101 01:42:35< Crab_> we can modify the terrain, as well, or use a simpler map than normal MP maps
20110101 01:42:50< Crab_> but it'll be slightly better to come up with a good test case on standard map
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20110101 02:27:47< skyfaller> well, let me know if those savegames are of any use
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20110101 07:17:56< CIA-84> silene * r48151 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Removed separation between unit reports and game status reports, since testing shows that game status is invalidated almost each time unit is.
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20110101 16:53:29< mordante> happy newyear
20110101 16:55:02< stikonas> happy new year to you too
20110101 16:55:36< timotei> happy new year to you too too
20110101 16:55:38< Mussious> Happy new year!
20110101 16:56:13< Crendgrim> happy new year to you, too
20110101 16:56:24< Elvish_Pillager> happy new day
20110101 16:56:34< timotei> happy new D-day lol
20110101 16:56:38< Elvish_Pillager> Hey, a day started too
20110101 16:56:40< Elvish_Pillager> not just a year
20110101 16:56:45< Elvish_Pillager> So a year is bigger, so what?
20110101 16:56:46< timotei> yeah
20110101 16:56:53< timotei> it's fatter :P
20110101 16:57:02< Elvish_Pillager> Am I more important than you just because I'm bigger?!
20110101 16:57:14 * timotei wonder if there even exist that wor
20110101 16:57:15< timotei> word*
20110101 16:57:21< Elvish_Pillager> what word?
20110101 16:57:25< timotei> fatter
20110101 16:57:28< Elvish_Pillager> yeah that's a word
20110101 16:58:21< CIA-84> mordante * r48153 /trunk/src/ (811 files in 33 dirs): New year copyright update.
20110101 16:58:42< Espreon> He better have gotten all of them this time.
20110101 16:59:24< mordante> Espreon, all sources, want to see the rest of the files manually, my script failed on them :-(
20110101 16:59:59< Espreon> mordante: Again, you didn't get copyright!
20110101 17:00:56< Espreon> Ok.
20110101 17:01:02< timotei> mordante: I just wanted to ask you for that update:D
20110101 17:01:09< timotei> can you do that for utils/java too? ^_^
20110101 17:02:24< mordante> Espreon, yeah but I had some false positives and finding them between 800+ valid changes is a bit hard
20110101 17:02:41< mordante> timotei, yeah want to update my script to try to catch everything
20110101 17:03:21< Espreon> mordante: Indeed.
20110101 17:04:33< timotei> mordante: do you know by chance what must a svn repo have, so I can use git svn with it?
20110101 17:05:45< mordante> timotei, not sure what you mean but AFAIK git-svn can use every svn repo
20110101 17:06:11< timotei> mordante: because I tried to use it on a xp-dev.com svn repo, and got some errors
20110101 17:06:20< timotei> even the ##git guys didn't know iirc
20110101 17:10:37< mordante> any thing you wanted to check out there specifically?
20110101 17:10:57< timotei> well no. git svn init http://
20110101 17:10:59< timotei> and then:
20110101 17:11:01< timotei> git svn rebase
20110101 17:11:02< timotei> fatal: ambiguous argument 'HEAD': unknown revision or path not in the working tree.
20110101 17:11:19< timotei> if I make:
20110101 17:11:23< timotei> git svn fetch -rHEAD
20110101 17:11:41< timotei> thre are 18 revisions inside
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20110101 17:13:20< mordante> you didn't set up trunk, branches and the tags dir (or use stdlayout if needed)
20110101 17:14:11< mordante> also http:// looks weird, seems so miss a part
20110101 17:14:19< timotei> http://<my url ^_^
20110101 17:14:21< timotei> ic2011_repo@18:/
20110101 17:14:21< timotei> directory Diagrams/
20110101 17:14:21< timotei> directory branches/
20110101 17:14:21< timotei> directory tags/
20110101 17:14:21< timotei> directory trunk/
20110101 17:14:22< timotei> file AltMethods - Documentation.docx
20110101 17:14:24< timotei> file Tasks.xlsx
20110101 17:14:30< timotei> this is everything in repo
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20110101 17:17:32< mordante> what's the full path of your svn repo?
20110101 17:18:25< timotei> http://svn3.xp-dev.com/svn/ic2011_repo/
20110101 17:18:28< timotei> it's not public ^_^
20110101 17:18:38< timotei> but lemme make one
20110101 17:20:06< timotei> ok, here is a public one
20110101 17:20:07< timotei> http://svn3.xp-dev.com/svn/gitsvn_test/
20110101 17:22:30< timotei> hmm
20110101 17:22:36< timotei> it seems for a buddy in #git it works.
20110101 17:22:41< timotei> maybe it's the git version problem's
20110101 17:28:14< mordante> timotei, reading the man page  git-svn clone http://svn3.xp-dev.com/svn/gitsvn_test/ -s my_path sould work and does for me
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20110101 17:32:01< timotei> it seems it's a windows git problem :((
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20110101 18:00:20< Blitzmerker> Hi, how can I create an attack which is only available on defense?
20110101 18:03:24< Gambit> you can make it do 0 damage when used offensively
20110101 18:03:29 * zookeeper slaps Gambit
20110101 18:03:41< zookeeper> look at the [attack] tag in UnitTypeWML
20110101 18:06:03< timotei> I like Gambit's idea :D
20110101 18:06:09< Blitzmerker> Gambit, zookeeper: This is the way I do it at the moment. But I want to remove the attack for attacking.
20110101 18:06:59< Gambit> hmm looks like someone broke the UnitTypeWML page
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20110101 18:13:58< zookeeper> yes, but the answer is there nevertheless.
20110101 18:20:02< Blitzmerker> zookeeper: the answer to remove an attack  when used offensive?
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20110101 18:58:06< zookeeper> Blitzmerker, yes
20110101 19:02:01< Blitzmerker> zookeeper: You mean "wiki.wesnoth.org/UnitTypeWML", don't you? I cannot find anything there…
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20110101 19:15:09< boucman> happy new year everybody
20110101 19:20:48< mordante> happy new year to you to boucman 
20110101 19:21:22< mordante> timotei, can't you copy a git created check from linux to windows and use that?
20110101 19:25:26< timotei> mordante: IDK
20110101 19:25:34< timotei> mordante: but good idea
20110101 19:25:35< timotei> :P
20110101 19:26:24< mordante> somehow I feel happy I can't test it over here ;-)
20110101 19:28:38< timotei> mordante: :O
20110101 19:28:40< timotei> wow it WORKS!
20110101 19:28:47< timotei> now trying to get it back to windows
20110101 19:29:42< timotei> nope
20110101 19:29:51< timotei> the same stupid error: RA layer request failed: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/ic2011_repo': PROPFIND of '/svn/ic2011_repo': 403 Forbidden (http://svn3.xp-dev.com) at D:\bin\Git/libexec/git-core/git-svn line 2311
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20110101 19:31:19< mordante> and if you try with the public test repo?
20110101 19:32:03< timotei> one sec
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20110101 19:35:55< timotei> RA layer request failed: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/gitsvn_test': PROPFIND
20110101 19:35:55< timotei>  of '/svn/gitsvn_test': 403 Forbidden (http://svn3.xp-dev.com) at D:\bin\git/lib
20110101 19:35:56< timotei> exec/git-core/git-svn line 2311
20110101 19:35:58< timotei> mordante: same;
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20110101 19:43:43< zookeeper> Blitzmerker, there's only 11 keys listed for [attack], it's not hard to find: attack_weight= and defense_weight=
20110101 19:44:27< mordante> timotei, then I'm out of ideas best as the git people and/or file a bug report
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20110101 19:57:58< mordante> timotei, why does ./utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml.ui/src/org/wesnoth/ui/editor/WMLEditor.java have a copyright notice at line 141?
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20110101 20:14:52< Blitzmerker> zookeeper: I just read "helps the AI…" and thought: useless for what I want to do XD. thx :)
20110101 20:14:55< Gambit> Crab_: This seems like something you'd be interested in: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32560
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20110101 20:49:48< timotei> mordante: checking
20110101 20:50:57< timotei> mordante: oh yeah. well, from that part ongoing it's not my code:)
20110101 20:51:35< timotei> mordante: it would be better to move it at the top?
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20110101 21:00:59< timotei> fendrin: what do you think? add a new feature to the plugin, which obsfucates the WML code?:)
20110101 21:01:01< mordante> timotei, in general a copyright header should be on top
20110101 21:01:14< mordante> but would be nice to wait until I'm done with the file
20110101 21:01:21< timotei> mordante: ok
20110101 21:01:26< mordante> timotei, could you test something for me on Linux?
20110101 21:01:33< timotei> mordante: umm yeah
20110101 21:01:36< timotei> one sec to start my vm
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20110101 21:01:41< Espreon> timotei: No.
20110101 21:01:45< timotei> it's ubuntu proof?
20110101 21:01:53< timotei> Espreon: what?
20110101 21:01:59< Espreon> timotei: Adding such a feature would be silly.
20110101 21:02:01< timotei> Espreon: why not start my vm?
20110101 21:02:05< Espreon> No.
20110101 21:02:10< Espreon> I'm talking about the plugin.
20110101 21:02:58< timotei> mordante: ok started the VM.
20110101 21:03:34< mordante> can you paste the output of these three commands on your system http://paste.debian.net/103592/ ?
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20110101 21:05:19< timotei> umm... I use git
20110101 21:05:34< mordante> :-(
20110101 21:06:29< mordante> anybody still using svn on Linux?
20110101 21:06:50< Crendgrim> yes .. why?
20110101 21:06:54< timotei> :D
20110101 21:07:33< Espreon> mordante: Yes.
20110101 21:07:34< mordante> I have something odd with a file, once I touch it it gets modified
20110101 21:08:00< Espreon> What are you using?
20110101 21:08:08< mordante> svn
20110101 21:08:15< Espreon> No, on the file.
20110101 21:08:21< mordante> touch
20110101 21:08:25< Espreon> Ah.
20110101 21:08:34< un214> it's supposed to do that
20110101 21:08:38< Espreon> Doesn't touch modify the timestamp?
20110101 21:09:02< timotei> I know that too
20110101 21:09:17< mordante> the timestamp yes, but that shouldn't trigger the modified flag
20110101 21:09:30< mordante> besides I can't revert the file afterwards
20110101 21:10:00< mordante> un214, what is supposed to happen?
20110101 21:10:18< un214> timestamp change triggers modified in svn
20110101 21:11:27< mordante> un214, are you sure? when I touch a normal .cpp file no modification occurs and I also can't revert the file
20110101 21:11:55< mordante> Espreon, could you give these commands a try http://paste.debian.net/103592/ and paste the output ?
20110101 21:11:56< un214> it's a binary file you touched right?
20110101 21:12:22< mordante> no a text file and the entire file seems to be rewritten, but cmp finds no differences
20110101 21:12:32< Espreon> mordante: I'm not actually using Linux right now.
20110101 21:12:55< un214> actually I think the behavior with the .cpp file is the wrong one
20110101 21:13:10< mordante> why?
20110101 21:13:39< mordante> I often add debug code and remove it later would be odd if the file is flagged modified afterwards
20110101 21:14:03< mordante> Crendgrim, could you then give these commands a try http://paste.debian.net/103592/ and paste the output?
20110101 21:14:44< mordante> besides it's quite annoying, since I couldn't figure out how my sed script failed so horribly by changing lines it wasn't allowed to touch
20110101 21:15:07< Crendgrim> wait... hm... I think I first have to checkout that folder?
20110101 21:16:07< mordante> yup do you need information to do the checkout?
20110101 21:17:01< Crendgrim> I guess so...
20110101 21:18:37< mordante> svn://svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml/src-gen/org/wesnoth/wML
20110101 21:19:34< mordante> you then only need to do svn st WMLKey.java ; touch WMLKey.java; svn st WMLKey.java
20110101 21:20:39< Crendgrim> no output... 
20110101 21:21:00< timotei> mordante: umm... is my file "bad"?:-S
20110101 21:21:13< timotei> Espreon "fixed" them each time I commited something
20110101 21:22:54< un214> bad idea: <tech-mage> could someone possibly help me. i am studying linux but dont have a *nix box. can someone make me a root shell account that i can practice with?
20110101 21:23:55< Espreon> Heh...
20110101 21:24:08< mordante> Crendgrim, hmm very odd, when I use an anonymous checkout it doesn't change but with my own account it does also with a fresh checkout
20110101 21:24:22< mordante> timotei, I've no idea
20110101 21:24:38< Espreon> I guess timotei's files are weird.
20110101 21:24:41< Crendgrim> I don't have an account, so I cannot help you there :/
20110101 21:24:59< mordante> thanks anyway
20110101 21:25:00< Crendgrim> Espreon: I guess computers are weird :)
20110101 21:25:01< Espreon> Sometimes, when I svn up the plugin's directories... yeah...
20110101 21:25:15< Espreon> Yupz...
20110101 21:25:18< timotei> mordante: if I can make my svn work on linux I'll help you
20110101 21:25:28< timotei> mordante: oh. actually
20110101 21:25:57< timotei> mordante: one sec to update them
20110101 21:27:50< timotei> ok. it doesn't output me anything
20110101 21:27:56< timotei> is that bad or good?
20110101 21:28:32< mordante> good, that what's supposed to happen
20110101 21:29:04< mordante> seems to be related to this thread http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2009-04/0354.shtml
20110101 21:30:00< mordante> svn diff -x --ignore-eol-style shows nothing and svn diff shows the entire file rewritten
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20110101 21:30:58< iwontbecreative> Hi
20110101 21:31:05< mordante> hi iwontbecreative 
20110101 21:31:06< iwontbecreative> mordante: I'm ready for the task
20110101 21:31:18< mordante> I'm not :-P
20110101 21:31:36< iwontbecreative> :P
20110101 21:32:10< mordante> I didn't expect you until tomorrow and some other issues popped up
20110101 21:32:20< iwontbecreative> Just ping me when scheme.cfg format is choosed :)
20110101 21:32:35< mordante> for that part you need to ask AI0867 
20110101 21:34:37< iwontbecreative> Ok
20110101 21:35:05< iwontbecreative> GCI finish the 8th, so we still have some time
20110101 21:35:24< mordante> I still hope to add a task tomorrow, I have a rough draft but need to polish it a bit and post it
20110101 21:35:44< iwontbecreative> If you can't be ready for that day, I'll do another random task, probably not related to wesnoth, and then go back to this one
20110101 21:36:20< mordante> feel free to do another random task, I can wait with posting until you're ready
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20110101 21:39:01< CIA-84> mordante * r48154 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml/src-gen/org/wesnoth/wML/ (13 files in 2 dirs): 
20110101 21:39:01< CIA-84> Update files should be no changes.
20110101 21:39:01< CIA-84> When touching the files svn claims they are modified, but cmp shows no
20110101 21:39:01< CIA-84> difference. Reverting them also doesn't work so commit the `updated' version.
20110101 21:39:01< CIA-84> Looks like related to this issue [1], hopefully this commit solves it.
20110101 21:39:02< CIA-84> [1] http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2009-04/0354.shtml
20110101 21:40:03< mordante> great that fixed it ^
20110101 21:41:29< shadowmaster> "wML"?
20110101 21:41:51 * shadowmaster looks at timotei 
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20110101 21:42:24< CIA-84> mordante * r48155 /trunk/utils/java/ (138 files in 39 dirs): More new year copyright updates, the java plugin.
20110101 21:42:47< mordante> shadowmaster, I also wondered about it, but didn't want to ask before I was done with the copyright update
20110101 21:44:15< timotei> shadowmaster: yeah wML :)
20110101 21:44:32< shadowmaster> it's supposed to be WML
20110101 21:44:49< iwontbecreative> mordante: I only need 1 more task to reach 6, and I won't reach 9, so I would like to do tasks related to wesnoth as it's the thing I enjoy the most
20110101 21:44:53< timotei> generate wML "http://www.wesnoth.org/WML"
20110101 21:44:56< timotei> this is why
20110101 21:45:05< timotei> grammar's name must start with lower case :D
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20110101 21:45:47< shadowmaster> and it can't be all lowercase either?
20110101 21:45:48< mordante> can't you use wml then?
20110101 21:46:07< timotei> well
20110101 21:46:46< timotei> maybe Espreon will come back yelling why I de-acronymed it
20110101 21:46:51< mordante> iwontbecreative, nice to hear you like to work on Wesnoth, then I'll try to add the task tomorrow
20110101 21:46:51< timotei> or something like that :-"
20110101 21:47:00< Espreon> timotei: Not really.
20110101 21:47:06< timotei> Espreon: you promise?
20110101 21:47:10< Espreon> "wML"... is silly.
20110101 21:47:14< Espreon> Yeah.
20110101 21:47:18< timotei> ok
20110101 21:47:28< timotei> when mordante will finish the new year update
20110101 21:47:43< timotei> though
20110101 21:47:53< timotei> the src-gen files are automatically generated
20110101 21:48:27< timotei> mordante: just tell me when I can modify
20110101 21:49:50< mordante> timotei, I just finished the java part
20110101 21:57:41< CIA-84> mordante * r48156 /trunk/ (copyright doc/man/wesnoth.6 doc/man/wesnothd.6): Some more new year updates.
20110101 22:01:46< timotei> mordante: ok. thanks
20110101 22:02:07< mordante> you're welcome
20110101 22:03:06< mordante> timotei, I've some more changes for your plugin pending, just let me know whether you want me to wait or not
20110101 22:03:17< timotei> mordante: I'll wait
20110101 22:03:37< timotei> mordante: I can do this tomorrow aswell
20110101 22:05:00< mordante> will commit in a sec, r48154 was the solution
20110101 22:06:12< mordante> timotei, done
20110101 22:06:17< timotei> ok
20110101 22:06:20< CIA-84> mordante * r48157 /trunk/ (9 files in 5 dirs): 
20110101 22:06:20< CIA-84> More end of line fixes.
20110101 22:06:20< CIA-84> r48154 fixed the issue so touched all files to uncover more cases.
20110101 22:06:36< timotei> hope the renaming will work ok
20110101 22:09:13< mordante> would be nice wML looks quite silly
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20110101 22:26:00< CIA-84> timotei * r48158 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml/src/org/wesnoth/WML.xtext: eclipse plugin: change the grammar name
20110101 22:26:47< CIA-84> timotei * r48159 /trunk/utils/java/ (45 files in 14 dirs): eclipse plugin: change the grammar name (consequences)
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20110101 22:28:46< timotei> hmm. I don't know if that really changed
20110101 22:30:32< timotei> great. now I ended up with some "untracked" untrackable files
20110101 22:30:33< timotei> sweet
20110101 22:31:38< mordante> I'm off night
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20110101 22:37:35< timotei> ok, that did
20110101 22:37:57< timotei> shadowmaster, Espreon, it's now wml rather than wML
20110101 22:38:20< CIA-84> timotei * r48160 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml/src-gen/org/wesnoth/ (45 files in 9 dirs): eclipse plugin: change the grammar name (consequences part 2)
20110101 22:38:45< CIA-84> timotei * r48161 /trunk/utils/java/org.wesnoth.wml/src-gen/org/wesnoth/ (48 files in 9 dirs): eclipse plugin: change the grammar name (season finale )
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20110101 23:00:35< timotei> guys, see you in february
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20110101 23:01:16< timotei> Ivanovic: if there are any translation requests for Romanian, please do tell them, that I don't have time for that. maybe next gci if we'll participate again
20110101 23:01:31< timotei> byez
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20110101 23:03:09< stikonas> we again have lots of files with windows line endings...
20110101 23:03:52< Espreon> stikonas: Where?
20110101 23:04:13< stikonas> in utils and packaging
20110101 23:05:36< stikonas> http://pastebin.com/nfqv0ZEN
20110101 23:06:00< Espreon> Not surprising.
20110101 23:06:08< Espreon> Sadly, I cannot deal with this right now.
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