--- Log opened Mon Jan 10 00:00:03 2011
20110110 00:00:58< Crab_> if you compile a debug build and run wesnoth under a debugger, 
20110110 00:01:15< Grimling> ah, ok
20110110 00:01:15< Crab_> then, when it segfaults, you'll end up in debugger console
20110110 00:01:26< Crab_> and you'd just get a backtrace
20110110 00:01:29< Crab_> 'bt' if using gdb
20110110 00:02:46< Grimling> ok, will try that
20110110 00:02:52< Crab_> ok, good luck
20110110 00:02:55< Grimling> but now go off
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20110110 00:24:33< CIA-84> soliton * r48240 /trunk/src/game_preferences_display.cpp: fixed bug #17451: friend/ignored status not internationalized
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20110110 00:28:54< CIA-84> ivanovic * r48241 /trunk/ (201 files in 27 dirs): 
20110110 00:28:54< CIA-84> pot-update
20110110 00:28:54< CIA-84> regenerated doc files
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20110110 00:38:46< CIA-84> ivanovic * r48242 /trunk/po/ (3 files in 3 dirs): updated German translation
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20110110 00:42:54< Ivanovic> shadowmaster: you have done the support for gui2 at the story screens, right?
20110110 00:43:18< Ivanovic> could you give running wesnoth with "wesnoth --smallgui -r 800x480 a try and start "a tale of two brothers", jumping to the 2nd scenario?
20110110 00:43:35< Ivanovic> there the intro text (the diary entry) is eg not displayed completely when playing in german
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20110110 00:45:00< Ivanovic> okay, the english text does not fit there either
20110110 00:47:47< Ivanovic> anyway, i am off to bed, n8
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20110110 01:15:30< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: story screens don't use GUI2
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20110110 01:17:59< shadowmaster> and I don't know what can be done about that since the text is clearly too long to fit on the screen unless (hopefully) I changed the text area width
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20110110 01:20:50< shadowmaster> alternatively it might be possible to decrease the font size
20110110 01:20:59< Gambit> The 1.9 server is sending what appears to be malformed [user] tags.
20110110 01:21:07< Gambit> specifically the location attribute
20110110 01:21:25< Gambit> Soliton: ^
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20110110 02:05:09< Aethaeryn> wesnoth: src/gui/widgets/grid.cpp:541: virtual void gui2::tgrid::place(const gui2::tpoint&, const gui2::tpoint&): Assertion `false' failed.
20110110 02:05:12< Aethaeryn> Aborted (core dumped)
20110110 02:05:23< Aethaeryn> I see the new MP lobby is still as stable as ever.
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20110110 02:54:57< beetlenaut> Is floating point math coming to formulas like "$(2/3)" eventually, or can I count on them always doing integer math?
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20110110 04:56:28< Sapient> beetlenaut: that's funny, I was recently told that forumlas already support such operations
20110110 04:56:42< Sapient> it's what I get for not testing it myself I guess
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20110110 04:58:21< beetlenaut> That still answers my question though. I won't count on it not changing.
20110110 04:59:28< Sapient> Ok, it understands 0.666 but not 2/3
20110110 05:00:29< Sapient> right-click on the silver mage in the test scenario
20110110 05:00:36< Sapient> and do "Perform Calculation"
20110110 05:01:10< Sapient> 1 + 0.666 = 1.666
20110110 05:02:38< Sapient> ah... try this:  2.0/3.0
20110110 05:05:31< CIA-84> beetlenaut * r48243 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/maps/ (Home_1.map Home_2.map): Moved a village so units weren't spawned on impassible terrain.
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20110110 05:07:53< Sapient> beetlenaut: apparently operator / for integers will return quotient rounded toward zero
20110110 05:09:18< Sapient> that is, integer division
20110110 05:10:14< beetlenaut> Oh, OK. That's what I was seeing. Thanks.
20110110 05:14:46< Sapient> as a side note, I'm surprised those formatting characters haven't been converted to Pango markup yet
20110110 05:15:50< shadowmaster> which?
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20110110 05:25:25< Sapient> the silver mage formula test text
20110110 05:26:12< Sapient> # and @ were used to provide green and red text
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20110110 05:29:27< Sapient> I'm surprised wmllint didn't catch it
20110110 05:29:39 * Espreon isn't.
20110110 05:30:35< Sapient> give me a moment to lookup to Pango and I'll commit a fix
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20110110 05:38:13< shadowmaster> wmllint isn't run on data/, so no wonder there.
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20110110 05:47:53< Sapient> Can't create directory '/var/svn/wesnoth/db/transactions/48243-1.txn': Permission denied
20110110 05:48:10< Sapient> is that coming from gna or my own PC ?
20110110 05:48:17< shadowmaster> Gna.org.
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20110110 05:48:40< Sapient> so was my access removed or what?
20110110 05:51:26< Sapient> Ivanovic: I know I am a lazy dev but I would like my commit access back :p
20110110 05:58:31< shadowmaster> perhaps you need to reactivate your account if you haven't done so already.
20110110 05:59:09< shadowmaster> (in case you haven't heard, old accounts had their passwords reset after the attack to savannah.gnu.org, which runs the same software as Gna.org)
20110110 05:59:25< Sapient> yeah, I already changed my password for gna.org
20110110 05:59:45 * Sapient flaps his little yellow wings
20110110 06:00:02< Sapient> anything else needed to reactivate?
20110110 06:01:01< shadowmaster> no
20110110 06:02:00< Sapient> BTW, their requirement of caps and small case would have no effect on the rainbow table attack used
20110110 06:02:11< Sapient> so that's a bogus requirement
20110110 06:02:26< shadowmaster> I'm sure they'd love to hear your opinion! ^^
20110110 06:03:44< Sapient> my password of shadowmasteristehawesome was totally secure enough!
20110110 06:07:21< Sapient> might as well require characters from the extended ascii character set if that's your idea of defeating rainbow tables
20110110 06:13:04< Sapient> that reminds me when my dad sold my old DOS-based computer and he asked me for the admin password over the phone, it involved a lot of holding down Alt whilst pressing number sequences. Finally he gave up and wiped the disk
20110110 06:20:39< Sapient> ow that I think about it, the fact that he managed to sell it at all was pretty impressive on its own
20110110 06:22:59< Espreon> "They oughtta require hieroglyphs too!"
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20110110 07:01:41< CIA-84> beetlenaut * r48244 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/scenarios/ (01_Invasion.cfg 02_Flight.cfg): Rebalanced taking into account the now fearless zombies.
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20110110 07:51:53< Soliton> Gambit: well, what appears to be the malformation?
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20110110 09:37:08< CIA-84> beetlenaut * r48245 /trunk/data/campaigns/Dead_Water/scenarios/08_Talking_to_Tyegea.cfg: Small change to make the dialog more clear.
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20110110 09:41:15< Ivanovic> moin
20110110 09:42:57< kuku> moin
20110110 09:43:07< kuku> i have a question about GCi
20110110 09:43:25< kuku> is a mentor around here? :/
20110110 09:44:02< kuku> Can a task be cancelled now?
20110110 09:44:14< Ivanovic> gci is over
20110110 09:44:17< Ivanovic> nothing can be done now
20110110 09:44:40< kuku> if i can prove that that task was not done well...can it be cancelled?
20110110 09:44:47< kuku> or that student
20110110 09:44:53< kuku> disqualified
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20110110 09:46:29< kuku> :/
20110110 09:48:16< Ivanovic> no idea what you mean
20110110 09:49:41< kuku> if let's say i cheated and tricked the mentor that i did a task and he closed it...
20110110 09:49:48< kuku> can he cancel it?
20110110 09:50:02< Ivanovic> NOTHING can be done atm
20110110 09:50:14< Ivanovic> eg i can't even access the site with the tasklist as admin
20110110 09:50:23< kuku> or maybe gci admins?
20110110 09:50:35< Ivanovic> they might be able to do something
20110110 09:51:23< kuku> but wasn't the mentor's job to verify the work?
20110110 09:51:59< kuku> so if he didn't see that it isn't good...has the student any fault?
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20110110 09:52:21< Ivanovic> the program is over now and mentors from the projects have no way to access anything not even to check what the tasks *were*!
20110110 09:52:33< Ivanovic> (at least for the moment)
20110110 09:52:37< kuku> i understood that
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20110110 09:52:51< kuku> but i meant the admins...
20110110 09:52:56< Ivanovic> and those meta questions should be asked to the google people
20110110 09:53:10< Ivanovic> they are not in here, so you won't be able to get the required answer here
20110110 09:53:19< kuku> ok
20110110 09:53:21< kuku> thx
20110110 09:54:01< Ivanovic> and since it is currently 2am in the timezone where the google people reside it is unlikely that you'll get a reply *right now*
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20110110 10:00:26< CIA-84> ivanovic * r48246 /trunk/ (8 files in 7 dirs): updated Vietnamese translation
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20110110 11:43:11< shadowmaster> Ivanovic: even if I increase the text area width there are at least a few pixels cut off at the bottom (assuming I'm indeed seeing the entirety of the story screen) http://shadowm.rewound.net/wesnoth9.png
20110110 11:44:06< shadowmaster> in my opinion, the proper fix would be cutting the story page in two.
20110110 11:44:37< shadowmaster> it's quite rare to see story screens with more than two paragraphs anyway
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20110110 12:00:03< Ivanovic> yeah, it is enough space for the english one, but not for the corresponding translation
20110110 12:00:20< Ivanovic> though i am all for increasing the width there for 800x*
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20110110 12:13:04< shadowmaster> okay, I'll reduce the lateral padding to ~10px for horizontal resolutions of 800px and lower
20110110 12:24:23< CIA-84> shadowmaster * r48247 /trunk/ (changelog src/storyscreen/render.cpp): 
20110110 12:24:23< CIA-84> storyscreen: Text area dimension tweaks for normal and smallgui modes
20110110 12:24:23< CIA-84> * The box width on normal resolutions has been increased.
20110110 12:24:23< CIA-84> * Lateral padding on horizontal resolutions of 800px and lower has been
20110110 12:24:23< CIA-84> mostly eliminated.
20110110 12:25:19< shadowmaster> I'm off now. Cya tomorrow-ish.
20110110 12:30:27< CIA-84> torangan * r48248 /trunk/po/ (wesnoth/he.po wesnoth-lib/he.po): hebrew translation update
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20110110 17:29:04< CIA-84> ai0867 * r48249 /trunk/po/ (11 files in 11 dirs): Dutch translation update
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20110110 18:46:40< Sapient> Ivanovic: there?
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20110110 19:06:25< anonymissimus> does anyone else get this when trying to login to the forums: You exceeded the maximum allowed number of login attempts. In addition to your username and password you now also have to solve the CAPTCHA below.
20110110 19:06:44< anonymissimus> (i havent afaik)
20110110 19:07:19< anonymissimus> it says there is something to fi´ll out but there isnt
20110110 19:07:48< iwontbecreative> Also just had this
20110110 19:07:53< anonymissimus> aha
20110110 19:07:57< iwontbecreative> Disconnected and tried to reconnect again
20110110 19:08:04< iwontbecreative>  But this time there's a captcha
20110110 19:08:12< anonymissimus> ok but some can post it seems
20110110 19:08:35< iwontbecreative> Now I filled the captcha and connected :)
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20110110 19:08:53< Gambit> anonymissimus: javascript disabled?
20110110 19:08:58< Gambit> maybe the captcha is javascripty
20110110 19:09:08< anonymissimus> hm
20110110 19:10:03< anonymissimus> no doesnt work
20110110 19:10:49< anonymissimus> and i didnt exceed the max amount of blabla i think
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20110110 19:28:34< `foobar> hi
20110110 19:29:44< `foobar> i'm asking if a mentor can reopen a task for wich he accepted the student's claim
20110110 19:30:42< `foobar> one mentor gave one task I did to another student and he said he can't reopen it, he can just close or extend it...
20110110 19:30:50< `foobar> was he lying?
20110110 19:32:57< iwontbecreative> This is probably not the right place to find answers about GCI.
20110110 19:33:03< iwontbecreative>  But I would say probably no
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20110110 19:35:29< Sapient> even if the mentor was able to do it before, I think the GCI site is no longer even accessible to them, so the answer is irrelevant
20110110 19:36:40< ``foobar> Sapient i'm asking to know...
20110110 19:36:47< ``foobar> if he lied
20110110 19:36:53< iwontbecreative> I just anwered that, but looks like you dc
20110110 19:37:05< iwontbecreative> You can read the logs
20110110 19:37:09< ``foobar> k
20110110 19:38:00< iwontbecreative> Because the developpers don't win anything giving a task to a student instead of another
20110110 19:38:34< ``foobar> well what if the student was a friend of him?
20110110 19:38:51< ``foobar> can u please say that again?
20110110 19:39:01< ``foobar> i can't access the logs
20110110 19:39:09< ``foobar> my internet connection
20110110 19:39:11< ``foobar> sucks
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20110110 19:43:45< iwontbecreative> Well, better ask the mentor directly then
20110110 19:44:07< ``foobar> what do u mean ask him?
20110110 19:44:11< ``foobar> i asked him
20110110 19:44:23< ``foobar> and he said he can't reopen it
20110110 19:44:33< ``foobar> but i don't believe him
20110110 19:44:58< ``foobar> so i want to ask another mentor
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20110110 19:46:38< iwontbecreative> I don't see anywhere that mentors can reopen tasks
20110110 19:47:05< ``foobar> iwontbecreative are u a mentor?
20110110 19:47:32< iwontbecreative> Ok, looks like they can
20110110 19:47:46< iwontbecreative> If the Mentor is completely unsatisfied with the student's work he/she will re-open the task. The task changes the state to Reopened. The new cycle with the same/another student requesting to claim the task begins
20110110 19:48:11< ``foobar> thanks
20110110 19:48:18< ``foobar> so he lied :(
20110110 19:48:20< iwontbecreative> No
20110110 19:48:35< iwontbecreative> Maybe he could reopent it but the other student had made the right work and you no
20110110 19:49:00< iwontbecreative> You can't say anything without the link to the task
20110110 19:49:11< iwontbecreative> And maybe also the mentor's point of view
20110110 19:49:13< ``foobar> well it's not like that...he just lied about not having that option
20110110 19:49:39< ``foobar> like it's not possible to reopen a task after it is accepted 
20110110 19:49:49< ``foobar> but that would be stupid
20110110 19:49:50< iwontbecreative> it isn't
20110110 19:49:58< iwontbecreative> It's only after the work is submitted
20110110 19:50:12< iwontbecreative> At least from what google FAQ says
20110110 19:50:14< ``foobar> yeah...only after the work is submitted i know
20110110 19:50:33< ``foobar> that student did submit work
20110110 19:50:48< ``foobar> but it wasn't good, and that was my task...
20110110 19:50:50< Greywhind> what iwontbecreative is saying is that once the mentor has _accepted_ the submission, it may not be possible to re-open
20110110 19:51:29< iwontbecreative> What was the task btw ?
20110110 19:51:36< ``foobar> translation
20110110 19:51:44< iwontbecreative> Which one ?
20110110 19:51:54< ``foobar> for gnome
20110110 19:52:03< iwontbecreative> TT_TT
20110110 19:52:10< ``foobar> ?
20110110 19:52:15< iwontbecreative> Here it's wesnoth channel
20110110 19:52:21< iwontbecreative> We don't know about GNOME devs
20110110 19:52:39< ``foobar> i just wanted to ask another mentor
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20110110 19:52:50< ``foobar> if it is possible
20110110 19:53:01< iwontbecreative>  It's like asking Stallman where you can report bugs for windows
20110110 19:53:22< Gambit> ``foobar: If you want someone to say "Yeah that Gnome dev is a dirty liar!" then you'll have to look elsewhere. We've answered all your questions as best we can.
20110110 19:53:36< ``foobar> and thanks...i got my answer... now i can throw that in his face
20110110 19:53:48< Greywhind> ``foobar: actually, the answer was that he is probably right
20110110 19:53:53< Greywhind> ``foobar: but we're not sure
20110110 19:54:04< Greywhind> Greywhind : what iwontbecreative is saying is that once the mentor has _accepted_ the  submission, it may not be possible to re-open
20110110 19:54:08< ``foobar> if u are not mentors..
20110110 19:54:11< iwontbecreative> Link to the task would help
20110110 19:54:26< ``foobar> the task was closed...
20110110 19:54:31< iwontbecreative> Maybe he lied but he's still right
20110110 19:54:42< ``foobar> so i might have it in my browser
20110110 19:55:10< ``foobar> but i can't see anything now because i can't surf the internet
20110110 19:55:20< ``foobar> looks like i can only chat
20110110 19:55:35< Greywhind> strange internet connection you have there
20110110 19:55:47< ``foobar> never happened before
20110110 19:55:51< iwontbecreative> Like he could re-open the task, but your work was not good enough first time so he didnd't wanted to screw another's student work to give you a second chance
20110110 19:56:08< Greywhind> probably a DNS problem.
20110110 19:56:20< iwontbecreative> You can always ask in the GNOME website
20110110 19:56:24< Gambit> Only if he's accessing freenode by IP :\
20110110 19:56:39< Gambit> Or the same DNS problem affects both google and w.o
20110110 19:56:43< iwontbecreative> Not really the place to ask for support
20110110 19:57:18< ``foobar> it's so weird
20110110 19:57:26< ``foobar> i can chat here
20110110 19:57:34< ``foobar> but not on yahoo messenger
20110110 19:57:46< iwontbecreative> foobar@f79-118-254-121.pitesti.rdsnet.ro   [Guess this means he's accessing by IP ?]
20110110 19:57:54< Gambit> I bet it's opposite day so your IT guy decided to block port 80, but allow 6667 :P
20110110 19:57:58< Gambit> iwontbecreative: err no.
20110110 19:58:14< Greywhind> well, once you've got a socket open, it probably doesn't need DNS anymore, I would think?
20110110 19:58:24< Gambit> This is true.
20110110 19:58:38< iwontbecreative> Gambit: ok, i learned a thing today then :)
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20110110 20:04:56< mordante> servus
20110110 20:05:20< iwontbecreative> Hi
20110110 20:05:25< mordante> hi iwontbecreative 
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20110110 20:42:34< mordante> iwontbecreative, we would like to offer you svn access
20110110 20:42:49< mordante> you did a great job for GCI
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20110110 20:58:22< iwontbecreative> mordante: Not sure I need it :P
20110110 20:58:33< iwontbecreative> But that would be nice.
20110110 20:58:41< Grimling> Crab_: i get  a 'ran out of memory' error on this line, is it wrong? pathfind::paths::dest_vect d = enemy_possible_moves.find(pair.first)->second.destinations;
20110110 20:59:23< iwontbecreative> I'll just have to learn how to commit things with svn (or is it git already ?) but there shouldn't be any problem :).
20110110 21:00:11< mordante> iwontbecreative, well I hope you need it, that means you intend to keep working on wesnoth
20110110 21:00:28< mordante> you can either use svn or git-svn what you prefer
20110110 21:00:39< iwontbecreative> Yes, I meant I don't need it *now*.
20110110 21:00:55< mordante> ok yes ok
20110110 21:01:52< iwontbecreative> I'll document myself quickly about svn and git-svn
20110110 21:02:02< iwontbecreative> I used mostly bazaar until now
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20110110 21:02:24< mordante> but you can apply for wesnoth membership and register your keys then they will be active once you have time again
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20110110 21:03:08< mordante> most of the time the activation is fast... but there have been some large delays in the past ;-)
20110110 21:03:23< iwontbecreative> mordante: Ok.
20110110 21:03:33< mordante> never used bazaar so no idea whether it feels more like svn or git-svn
20110110 21:04:02< iwontbecreative> svn is quite simple
20110110 21:04:06< iwontbecreative> Nothing really new
20110110 21:04:38< mordante> yup nice and simple
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20110110 21:04:58< iwontbecreative> And already knew some of the things like how to checkout, update, diff and status.
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20110110 21:05:44< iwontbecreative> Git-svn is more complex but maybe better support for branches
20110110 21:06:04< iwontbecreative> Think I'll use svn while I don't need advanced features
20110110 21:07:52< Grimling> iwontbecreative: congratulations ;)
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20110110 21:11:23< iwontbecreative> Grimling: Thanks
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20110110 21:22:00< iwontbecreative> mordante: I registered my ssh key but it looks like GNA can't handle it *now*, only in one hour :)
20110110 21:23:16< mordante> iwontbecreative, yeah that's the theory... some devs waited a bit longer in the past...
20110110 21:23:28< mordante> did you also apply for membership of the wesnoth project?
20110110 21:23:54< iwontbecreative> I don't know how to do it
20110110 21:24:54< iwontbecreative> Ok, found it
20110110 21:25:10< mordante> ok good
20110110 21:26:38< mordante> Ivanovic will accept your membership later
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20110110 21:39:58 * mordante kicks CIA-84 
20110110 21:40:24< CIA-84> ow
20110110 21:41:03< mordante> wesbot, log 48254
20110110 21:41:04< wesbot> mordante * r48254 : Rename gui2 wml colour to color.
20110110 21:41:04< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=48254
20110110 21:41:11< mordante> Espreon, ^ say bye bye to coloUr 
20110110 21:41:37< Gambit> Cool.
20110110 21:43:17< CIA-84> mordante * r48250 /trunk/src/ (wml_exception.cpp wml_exception.hpp): 
20110110 21:43:17< CIA-84> Add some helper functions for deprecated wml.
20110110 21:43:17< CIA-84> Added the code here instead of in the config object, to avoid dragging
20110110 21:43:17< CIA-84> more stuff in the core libraries. The deprectated warnings are only used
20110110 21:43:17< CIA-84> for the game stuff, so no need to put it in the server as well.
20110110 21:43:18< CIA-84> mordante * r48251 /trunk/src/gui/auxiliary/canvas.cpp: Deprecated colour for color.
20110110 21:43:20< CIA-84> mordante * r48252 /trunk/src/ (multiplayer_connect.cpp multiplayer_wait.cpp): 
20110110 21:43:20< CIA-84> Add deprecated warnings about colour.
20110110 21:43:20< CIA-84> The code was deprecated, but no warning was added so the user might not
20110110 21:43:20< CIA-84> be aware of the change. So added a warning and set a new removal date.
20110110 21:43:21< CIA-84> mordante * r48253 /trunk/src/ (gamestatus.cpp map_label.cpp team.cpp): Remove some deprecated colour keys.
20110110 21:43:22< CIA-84> mordante * r48254 /trunk/data/gui/default/ (19 files in 3 dirs): Rename gui2 wml colour to color.
20110110 21:43:45< mordante> will do some more hunting in the source tree see whether there are more colours left
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20110110 21:59:36< mordante> I'm off night
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