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Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20110117 20:23:32-!- iwontbecreative [~Thibault_@89-180-157-114.net.novis.pt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 20:24:24< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: Working on getting localized images (1.9.4) for the manual 20110117 20:24:31< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: cool 20110117 20:24:44< Ivanovic> for german i will wait with this task till the respective areas are translated 20110117 20:24:54< iwontbecreative> Doing it in french right now 20110117 20:25:10< Ivanovic> (besides you have to 1) do the screenshots for your lang and 2) you have to also update the po files to reflect those changes 20110117 20:25:14-!- PetePorty [~PeterPort@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 20:27:00< iwontbecreative> Where are the po files ? 20110117 20:28:02< Ivanovic> po/wesnoth-manual/fr.po is the one you are looking for 20110117 20:28:09< Ivanovic> wait some mins for my svn commit 20110117 20:28:20< Ivanovic> then you can just fix the image references once you are done 20110117 20:28:26< CIA-84> ivanovic * r48332 /trunk/ (73 files in 2 dirs): sync manual (html and po) files with the latest images 20110117 20:34:38< iwontbecreative> Yep, I'm not that fast aniway 20110117 20:34:48< iwontbecreative> So I take all the images in 1024, right ? 20110117 20:35:20< Ivanovic> just a second, i sent a mail with "how to do manual screenshots" to the i18n list this afternoon 20110117 20:35:43< Ivanovic> https://mail.gna.org/public/wesnoth-i18n/2011-01/msg00003.html 20110117 20:36:10< Ivanovic> just replace every case of "1.5.X" with "1.9.4" and that is what i did 20110117 20:36:17< iwontbecreative> btw: Is it supposed to be a .jpg or .png ? 20110117 20:36:29< Ivanovic> all mentioned in the mail! 20110117 20:36:31< Ivanovic> ;) 20110117 20:36:34< iwontbecreative> I saw a 1.9.2 png but all 1.9.4 are jpg 20110117 20:36:36< iwontbecreative> Ok 20110117 20:36:57< Ivanovic> (i created those screenshots using ksnapshot (lovely tool!) saving stuff as bmp and later on reencoding to jpg) 20110117 20:37:39< iwontbecreative> I use shutter 20110117 20:37:54< iwontbecreative> Btw, you quoted the mail without correcting the typo 20110117 20:38:03< iwontbecreative> [I had already saw that mail] 20110117 20:38:26< iwontbecreative> For non-fullscreen screenshots you've 90 and then in the command 80 20110117 20:38:56< Ivanovic> i just copied the command, so i used "80" 20110117 20:39:48< iwontbecreative> ok 20110117 20:43:46< Ivanovic> those are the exact commands used: http://pastebin.com/7ifvp2f2 20110117 20:45:29-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 20:45:39< iwontbecreative> From what campaign is the game-screen screenshot taken 20110117 20:46:00< iwontbecreative> I know it's a easy one with UD but don't remember the name 20110117 20:47:12-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-185-10-147.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 20:47:14< iwontbecreative> Ok, found 20110117 20:51:10< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: I guess things like ToD arn't really important if the elements explained in the manual are there, right ? 20110117 20:52:23-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 20:57:50-!- Grimling [~Grimling@91.181.253.141] has quit [Quit: Grimling] 20110117 21:06:19-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgd225.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:10:48-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgd225.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110117 21:11:19-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgd225.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:11:38-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgd225.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110117 21:13:26-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgd225.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:20:40-!- Crendgrim [~crend@95-88-176-61-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:30:05-!- Greywhind [~Greywhind@ip70-190-22-103.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20110117 21:30:27< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: only make translated screenshots of those things that have some text on them 20110117 21:30:36< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: and those are the ones with a version number in the filename 20110117 21:30:57< Ivanovic> the rest is there in mainline, just leave the image name (in the po file) as it is and be done 20110117 21:31:33-!- Greywhind [~Greywhind@ip70-190-22-103.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:34:31-!- Mussious [~kamil@dgd225.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20110117 21:39:14-!- eoc [~eoc@pD95606AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:43:34-!- Sapient [~sapient@adsl-37-57-166.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:43:36-!- Sapient [~sapient@adsl-37-57-166.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Changing host] 20110117 21:43:36-!- Sapient [~sapient@wesnoth/developer/sapient] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:43:39< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: Yep, I understood that :) 20110117 21:44:02< iwontbecreative> I just ate so I'm going to do the conversion and edit the .po file 20110117 21:46:31< CIA-84> espreon * r48333 /trunk/doc/manual/images/ (6 files): Ran umcpropfix. 20110117 21:47:15-!- prkc [~negusnyul@dsl4E5C46E8.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:47:40-!- prkc is now known as negusnyul_ 20110117 21:50:08-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl54027566.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20110117 21:50:29-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:52:32-!- skyfalle_ [~skyfaller@cpe-66-65-172-151.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:53:01-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:53:11-!- skyfalle_ [~skyfaller@cpe-66-65-172-151.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110117 21:53:50-!- negusnyul__ [~negusnyul@5400919A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:54:16< Espreon> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=475225#p475225 ... Sigh... 20110117 21:54:29-!- skyfalle_ [~skyfaller@cpe-66-65-172-175.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 21:54:46-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110117 21:55:03-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20110117 21:55:46< Espreon> fendrin: ^ 20110117 21:57:02-!- negusnyul_ [~negusnyul@dsl4E5C46E8.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110117 21:57:42< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: Where is the .po file located ? 20110117 21:58:40< Ivanovic> trunk/po/wesnoth-manual/fr.po 20110117 21:59:07-!- Crendgrim [~crend@95-88-176-61-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110117 22:03:26-!- negusnyul__ [~negusnyul@5400919A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110117 22:04:05-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20110117 22:07:41< iwontbecreative> Thanks, was looking in translations but that's for .mo files :P 20110117 22:08:31< Ivanovic> yeah, the stuff in there are the compiled ones 20110117 22:08:42< Ivanovic> best use some editor like poedit for the po files 20110117 22:09:20< Ivanovic> makes it a little less easy to break files (po files can be rather, uhm, special regarding their syntax) and its easier to use 20110117 22:11:20< iwontbecreative> I already translated many po files 20110117 22:11:24< iwontbecreative> Just not for wesnoth ;) 20110117 22:11:34< iwontbecreative> But better to use vim, I can do a search replace there 20110117 22:12:24< iwontbecreative> How do I send the files ? 20110117 22:12:39< iwontbecreative> I guess it's better not to use directly my commit rights since you need to review it first 20110117 22:26:40< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: ^ 20110117 22:27:13< Ivanovic> no idea if there is currently a french translation maintainer 20110117 22:27:31< Ivanovic> if you have just done the images: send me fr.po and the images in a lovely tarball 20110117 22:27:47< Ivanovic> if you changed more: uhm, boucman, can you have a look at the files or something like this? 20110117 22:28:08< boucman> thou hast summoned me ? 20110117 22:28:18< Ivanovic> boucman: or do you know if noyga still maintains the french translation? 20110117 22:28:26< Ivanovic> if he does i'd recommend iwontbecreative to send the stuff to him 20110117 22:28:52< iwontbecreative> I just translated the images stuff 20110117 22:29:08< boucman> i'm not sure who's the current maintainer, but most translation are handled on the french mailing list 20110117 22:29:09< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: then just mail me the stuff and thats it 20110117 22:29:18< iwontbecreative> I've done some other translations, but they're currently being reviewed in the translation mailing-list 20110117 22:29:26< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: I don't have your e-mail 20110117 22:29:35< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: ah, okay, if it is currently on the french list, just send it there 20110117 22:29:59< Ivanovic> (in hope that there is still someone around to gather the stuff and forward it to those being able to commit) 20110117 22:30:16< iwontbecreative> I mean, I sent other .po files in the translation mailing-list 20110117 22:30:32< iwontbecreative> But this one I didn't 20110117 22:30:39< boucman> iwontbecreative: email of the french ml : wesnoth at ml.free.fr 20110117 22:30:39< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: then send this one, too 20110117 22:30:45< iwontbecreative> Also seems they take some time to review 20110117 22:30:49< iwontbecreative> boucman: I know 20110117 22:30:53< boucman> oh, ok 20110117 22:31:01< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative, boucman: i don't know how the french list stuff works 20110117 22:31:23< iwontbecreative> boucman: If you read the archives I even sent a mail to the mailing-list about the manual images so there would be no duplicate work 20110117 22:31:36< boucman> I know there is someone on the ml that forwards to you, i'm just not sure who... 20110117 22:31:59< Ivanovic> boucman: the last update for french that i got is from august 20110117 22:32:01< Ivanovic> so not sure at all 20110117 22:32:07< iwontbecreative> Hmmm 20110117 22:32:18< Ivanovic> that one was from "guillaume.guigou" 20110117 22:32:22< boucman> iwontbecreative: not much advice to give you here... ping to see if there is still someone responsible for sending upward... 20110117 22:32:27< iwontbecreative> There is some talk in the mailing-list 20110117 22:32:40< iwontbecreative> mainly about add-ons 20110117 22:33:27< iwontbecreative> I sent some updated .po, someone answered that I made a mistake with encoding, corrected the files and sent them again 20110117 22:33:34< iwontbecreative> And then no answer 20110117 22:33:40< iwontbecreative> So it's a bit weird 20110117 22:34:31< iwontbecreative> (To my mind, .po files arn't very practical aniway, because there's a learning curve) 20110117 22:35:13< shadowmaster> there's no learning curve if you use poedit and such 20110117 22:35:31< iwontbecreative> I always had problems with poedit 20110117 22:37:03< iwontbecreative> shadowmaster: Translation system like Rosetta (Launchpad) get many contributors because it's very easy to contribute 20110117 22:37:14< PetePorty> I've never had a problem with PoEdit. 20110117 22:37:31-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 22:38:00< iwontbecreative> PetePorty: Also I don't like it 20110117 22:38:13< iwontbecreative> I'm faster with vim or emacs 20110117 22:38:15< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: systems like rosetta suck for games 20110117 22:38:19< Ivanovic> for interfaces they are okay 20110117 22:38:31< Ivanovic> the problems with games is that you want some persistency in style 20110117 22:38:39< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: In software too 20110117 22:38:40< Ivanovic> this you won't get relying on those online systems 20110117 22:38:57< Ivanovic> for most software you don't have too many strings 20110117 22:38:59< iwontbecreative> In french this is nicely handled on launchpad 20110117 22:39:13< iwontbecreative> For other languages it's not always true 20110117 22:39:53< iwontbecreative> Like weslands in translated in launchpad, but the translation isn't good because there is no review team 20110117 22:40:12< iwontbecreative> That means anyone can change the translation and they don't get reviewed 20110117 22:40:40< Ivanovic> fendrin: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=475225#p475225 20110117 22:40:46-!- kahoot [~kahootbir@c-71-236-48-27.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110117 22:40:54< Ivanovic> or was it espreon doing the encyclopedia stuff? 20110117 22:41:02< shadowmaster> no, fendrin 20110117 22:41:16< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: So, what to do with the images and the .po file ? 20110117 22:41:25< Ivanovic> iwontbecreative: french ML 20110117 22:41:35-!- PetePorty [~PeterPort@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20110117 22:43:41< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: Not really active but ok... 20110117 22:44:22< iwontbecreative> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.games.wesnoth-fr They are files that should be comitted but no one sends them 20110117 22:45:35< iwontbecreative> Merci à vous pour ces traductions mais... y a-t-il toujours quelqu'un pour les transmettre ? :-/ "Thanks for these translations but... Is there still someone to send them ?" 20110117 22:46:34< iwontbecreative> So they're many files that are reviewed or nearly reviewed but no one to send them upstream 20110117 22:48:51< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: If I send the files there, they won't get comitted until the translation maintainer reviews the ~10 other po files 20110117 22:57:11-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai] 20110117 22:59:25-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20110117 23:01:11-!- PetePorty [~PeterPort@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 23:01:38-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 23:08:23-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has quit [] 20110117 23:15:18-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has quit [] 20110117 23:17:36-!- Crab_ [~Crab_@wesnoth/developer/crab] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 23:19:40-!- dtiger [~dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-62-146.telecom.by] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110117 23:22:09< Ivanovic> boucman: it would be cool if you had a look at the stuff with the french translation team and make them select or new maintainer or something like this 20110117 23:28:05< iwontbecreative> Ivanovic: I'll send the stuff tomorrow to the ML :) 20110117 23:28:12< iwontbecreative> I'm off for tonight 20110117 23:28:28-!- iwontbecreative [~Thibault_@89-180-157-114.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: Good night] 20110117 23:29:47-!- GNUtoo|laptop [~gnutoo@host19-55-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110117 23:30:37-!- phlaem [~a@e178056234.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20110117 23:36:26-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@CPE-60-226-179-130.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20110117 23:56:01-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Log closed Tue Jan 18 00:00:41 2011