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20110130 02:14:50< Ivanovic> yogihh, Sirp: added you to the wiki page http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Fosdem2011#Schedule.2FPlans
20110130 02:15:17< Ivanovic> Sirp: the only one not listed there is neoriceisgood
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20110130 10:24:07< Ivanovic> moin
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20110130 10:44:11< CIA-89> ivanovic * r48389 /trunk/ (12 files in 11 dirs): updated Chinese (Traditional), Italian, Portuguese (Brazil) and Vietnamese translation
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20110130 11:12:38< CIA-89> espreon * r48390 /trunk/data/languages/ (he_IL.cfg mr_IN.cfg ro_RO.cfg): Begin to strictly adhere to the <name> (<romanized name>) convention.
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20110130 11:34:18< CIA-89> espreon * r48391 /trunk/data/languages/zh_CN.cfg: Added tone marks to the romanized name for Chinese Simplified.
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20110130 12:17:06< mordante> servus
20110130 12:17:16< mordante> AI0867, around?
20110130 12:17:32< Ivanovic> hi mordante
20110130 12:17:37< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
20110130 12:17:42< Ivanovic> mordante: Sirp mentioned yesterday where neorice is from
20110130 12:18:19< Ivanovic> should be about 100km by car from your place to the northeast
20110130 12:18:31< Espreon> mordante: Ic grete þe.
20110130 12:19:02< mordante> Ivanovic, in this chan?
20110130 12:19:05< mordante> hi Espreon 
20110130 12:19:11< Ivanovic> no, mentor chan
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20110130 12:25:14< mordante> Ivanovic, I'll pack a multioutlet and probably a long extension cable
20110130 12:25:34< Ivanovic> same here
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20110130 16:54:02< CIA-89> ivanovic * r48392 /branches/1.8/ (6 files in 5 dirs): updated Chinese (Traditional) translation
20110130 16:54:16< CIA-89> ivanovic * r48393 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): updated Chinese (Traditional) translation
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20110130 17:13:56< grzywacz> hi
20110130 17:15:55< Ivanovic> hi grzywacz
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20110130 19:20:19< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions | Re: [engine] Generate black backgrounds for art on install? by ancestral at 01-30-2011 18:12:54 http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=32403&p=477053#p477053
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20110130 19:30:36< janebot> Wesnoth Forums | Developers’ Discussions | Re: [engine] Generate black backgrounds for art on install? by Boucman at 01-30-2011 18:24:57 http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=32403&p=477054#p477054
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20110130 19:44:31< ancestral> boucman: http://mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/#spectre
20110130 19:49:10< boucman> looks good
20110130 19:49:51< ancestral> Advancement is missing, and tables haven't been sorted. I'll probably be tweaking the spacing of a few elements
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20110130 19:50:40< ancestral> Anyway, I figure if the unit pages are going to be redone maybe some consistency is a good thing
20110130 19:50:50< boucman> I always read the "defenses and movement cost" section as being the headers for the column and thus have the feeling they are misaligned
20110130 19:50:54< boucman> not sure what to do to aleviate that
20110130 19:51:02< boucman> (and if i'm the only one reading it that way)
20110130 19:51:11< ancestral> Yeah… I might break down and add headers
20110130 19:51:38< boucman> overall it looks better than our ingame help
20110130 19:51:46< ancestral> Maybe make it "Costs" with defenses and movement as headers
20110130 19:52:13< ancestral> Thanks
20110130 19:52:22< boucman> ancestral: is that site some sort of sandbox for wesnoth.org ?
20110130 19:52:38< ancestral> Just me playing around
20110130 19:52:44< boucman> or "terrain adjustments"
20110130 19:52:50< boucman> since it's mainly terrain related
20110130 19:53:03< ancestral> Terrain adjustments?
20110130 19:53:09< ancestral> LIke the masthead?
20110130 19:53:30< ancestral> Just me playing around :)
20110130 19:53:33< boucman> not sure what you mean...
20110130 19:54:17< ancestral> Are you referring to the top of the page? with the http://mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/images/logo.png
20110130 19:54:28< ancestral> larger logo, etc.
20110130 19:56:30< ancestral> Oh, for the table, "terrain adjustments", I got it
20110130 19:56:51< boucman> yes
20110130 19:58:53< zookeeper> there's just two "terrain adjustments", so is it worth it to introduce a whole new phrase for grouping the two?
20110130 19:59:41< boucman> not sure... i was trying to avoid the terms that would be used by column headers while reflecting what the section is... it all depends on the final layout
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20110130 20:00:16< ancestral> units.wesnoth.org doesn't have a title for the table
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20110130 20:01:27< ancestral> elias: BTW, http://units.wesnoth.org/trunk/C/mainline.html (the link for 'Trunk') doesn't resolve at http://units.wesnoth.org/
20110130 20:02:43< boucman> ancestral: your stuff looks better than units.wesnoth.org
20110130 20:03:08< ancestral> That was the goal of my project
20110130 20:03:25< boucman> :)
20110130 20:03:44< ancestral> I still have a few things to fix/add
20110130 20:05:49< ancestral> I'd also like to make a mobile friendly version
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20110130 20:20:13< ancestral> Does the forums use atom feeds (over rss?)
20110130 20:20:25< ancestral> shadowmaster?
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20110130 21:18:42< Ivanovic> any toolchain/compiler guru around?
20110130 21:19:05< Ivanovic> got some strange problem when trying to link wesnoth using a toolchain for pandora and got no idea what the "real" cause might be
20110130 21:19:26< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/VevZtYQD
20110130 21:19:41< Ivanovic> this is basically the output (the undefined references follow afterwards)
20110130 21:20:06< Ivanovic> the strange thing is that all of those "not found" libs do exist in /home/nils/pandora-dev/arm-2010.09/usr/lib which is added to the statement at the top
20110130 21:23:15< Ivanovic> even more strange: this very toolchain is able to link wesnoth using this lib (libboost_regex-mt.so)
20110130 21:24:46< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: Are you sure that .so.36 parts match?
20110130 21:25:19< loonycyborg> That's weird. I've got exactly the same error with native compile recently.
20110130 21:25:45< loonycyborg> Which was caused by me upgrading icu recently.
20110130 21:26:00< Ivanovic> yeah, i do
20110130 21:26:12< Ivanovic> all three .so files are there
20110130 21:26:35< loonycyborg> Just build boost without icu support :P
20110130 21:27:40< Ivanovic> can't build boost easily myself
20110130 21:27:48< Ivanovic> crosscompiler toolchain relying on existing packages
20110130 21:29:35< Ivanovic> cf http://pastebin.com/hHvyY4Uy
20110130 21:31:43< loonycyborg> Try adding -rpath too as it suggests.
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20110130 21:32:22< Crab_> hi, boucman
20110130 21:32:35< loonycyborg> -rpath=/home/nils/pandora-dev/arm-2010.09/usr/lib/ or so
20110130 21:32:37< boucman> hey Crab_
20110130 21:32:46< Crab_> you were looking for me ?
20110130 21:32:52< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: adding it where?
20110130 21:33:02< Ivanovic> in the g++ call?
20110130 21:33:05< loonycyborg> To link flags.
20110130 21:33:34< loonycyborg> So yes.
20110130 21:37:12< Ivanovic> arm-none-linux-gnueabi-g++: unrecognized option '-rpath=/home/nils/pandora-dev/arm-2010.09/usr/lib'
20110130 21:37:29< Ivanovic> $(CXX) -g $(OPT) -L$(PREFIX)/usr/lib -rpath=$(PREFIX)/usr/lib -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wreturn-type -lSDLmain -lSDL -lGLES_CM -lGLUES_CM -lIMGegl -lEGL -lsrv_um -lX11 -lXau -lXdmcp  -lSDL_image -lSDL_ttf -lSDL_mixer -lts -lpng12 -ljpeg -lz -lfreetype -lmad -ltiff -lboost_regex-mt -lboost_system-mt -fthreadsafe-statics $(objects) -o game
20110130 21:38:27< loonycyborg> -Wl,-rpath
20110130 21:38:45< loonycyborg> That's ld's option, not gcc's.
20110130 21:41:03< loonycyborg> So it appears that ld uses runtime mechanisms to find dependencies of shared libraries it links against.
20110130 21:41:41< Ivanovic> that one does the trick
20110130 21:41:44< Ivanovic> and it works nicely!
20110130 21:41:55< loonycyborg> Great! :)
20110130 21:42:19< Ivanovic> now to test how frogatto runs on the pandora...
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20110130 22:06:13< shadowmaster> ancestral: they are atom feeds
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20110130 22:12:46< Ivanovic> so frogatto runs on the pandora, somehow
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20110130 22:12:59< Ivanovic> Sirp: maybe you want to join #openpandora regarding some frogatto stuff on pandora
20110130 22:13:05< Ivanovic> observed some "strange behaviour"
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20110130 22:15:38< Ivanovic> for the interesting stuff: http://pastebin.com/aA3eSsMi
20110130 22:16:42< Ivanovic> but at least you should be able to walk around in the house at fosdem (in case _pickle does not manage to find the cause(es) of the issues)
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20110130 22:38:43< elias> ancestral: thanks, just got home, will try to fix
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20110130 23:01:10< AI0867> mordante: here now
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20110130 23:09:56< Ivanovic> AI0867: mordante is already off...
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20110130 23:30:12< CIA-89> elias * r48394 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wmlparser2.py: [wmlunits] Make parser not choke on malformed WML.
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20110130 23:39:53< AI0867> Ivanovic: I know, just pointing it out to him in case he reads the logs
20110130 23:40:31< Ivanovic> AI0867: he likely wanted to talk to you about transportation to fosdem
20110130 23:40:34< AI0867> also, did you include the pandora crosscompile system into one of our existing systems
20110130 23:40:41< AI0867> Ivanovic: probably, but we already mailed about that
20110130 23:40:58< AI0867> s/systems/systems?
20110130 23:40:59< Ivanovic> what do you mean with "pandora crosscompile system"?
20110130 23:41:12< AI0867> the stuff you did 2 hours ago =P
20110130 23:41:37< Ivanovic> i just use a pandora toolchain (okay, one i recently produced myself), use cmake to get me makefiles and run make
20110130 23:41:54< Ivanovic> in case you are interested in the toolchain itself: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/58443-crosscompiler-toolchain-based-on-openpandora-org-ipks/
20110130 23:42:28< Ivanovic> there is no need at all on our end to include anything special
20110130 23:42:31< Ivanovic> it "just works"
20110130 23:42:55< Ivanovic> (with the usual steps that cmake requires when used in the context of a crosscompiler toolchain)
20110130 23:43:39< Ivanovic> (and the required PandoraToolchain.cmake file is even generated as part of the generation of the toolchain!)
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20110130 23:58:56< AI0867> I don't have a pandora (and I don't use cmake), but I was wondering whether it might make sense to put the extra required files in the repo
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