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20110102 00:24:17<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: grickit * r8419 /branches/irc-bots/Gambot/Gambot.pl: Reduced the number of message processing threads. Anything over four is overkill.
20110102 00:30:27<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: grickit * r8420 /branches/irc-bots/Gambot/Gambot.pl: Removed unused dependency LWP.
20110102 00:31:54<+CIA-41> rei2: shadowm api3 * r3c2c0f71b506 /modules.available/cmd/01_General.inc.pl: 
20110102 00:31:54<+CIA-41> rei2: cmd/General: port to API3
20110102 00:31:54<+CIA-41> rei2: Caveat:
20110102 00:31:54<+CIA-41> rei2: The "hug" command uses Irssi to check whether a nick is in a particular
20110102 00:31:54<+CIA-41> rei2: channel or not. This check is now temporarily disabled while the missing
20110102 00:31:55<+CIA-41> rei2: functionality in the Backend base class is implemented.
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20110102 00:42:43<+CIA-41> rei2: shadowm api3 * rf9e76892f339 /lib/Rei2/ (Backend.pm Backend/Irssi.pm): 
20110102 00:42:43<+CIA-41> rei2: Rei2::Backend, Rei2::Backend::Irssi: new Backend abstract class
20110102 00:42:43<+CIA-41> rei2: The only method Rei2::Backend::Irssi implements atm is raw(), in order
20110102 00:42:43<+CIA-41> rei2: to minimize dependencies -- the rest is a rather bland interface to IRC
20110102 00:42:43<+CIA-41> rei2: which will get improved later.
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20110102 01:39:07<+CIA-41> rei2: shadowm * r449a14c56b07 / (lib/Rei2/Format.pm rei2.pl): Rei2::Format: migrate format codes to their own module (similar to Rei2::Constants)
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20110102 07:18:37<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: espreon * r8421 /trunk/The_Silver_Lands/integrated_packages/Elementals_Sandbox/utils/traits.cfg: TSL: synced with ES.
20110102 07:19:07< Espreon> Note to self: improve loading mechanisms for integrated packages.
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20110102 13:55:04<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: jpatteri * r8422 /trunk/The_White_Lich/ (7 files in 2 dirs): WML: Changed "Strange Greetings" to "The Hunter", did some scenario modifications and added new maps.
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20110102 17:25:35<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: jpatteri * r8423 /trunk/The_White_Lich/scenarios/04_The_Hunter.cfg: TWL: Fixed some awkwardness in "04_The_Hunter.cfg"
20110102 18:15:57<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: grickit * r8424 /branches/irc-bots/Gambot/ (Gambot.pl message_processor.pl): Added a sample message parser.
20110102 18:29:53<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: grickit * r8425 /branches/irc-bots/Gambot/ (Gambot.pl example_processor.pl message_processor.pl): Updated the configurator to allow users to choose from different message processors, or make their own.
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20110102 19:09:14<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: grickit * r8426 /branches/irc-bots/Gambot/example_processor.pl: Ported !ctf, !ftc, !version, !time, and !encode to the new format in example_processor.pl
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20110102 20:32:59<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: grickit * r8427 /branches/irc-bots/Gambot/example_processor.pl: Reimplemented &CheckAuth() and the !check-auth command
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20110102 20:41:22<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: grickit * r8429 /branches/irc-bots/Gambot/example_processor.pl: Misc updates to help and comments
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20110102 22:54:32<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r8432 /trunk/After_the_Storm/images/terrain/dark-hive/ (floor.png lair.png surface.png): New base tiles for Shaxthal hive terrains
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20110102 23:33:25 * Espreon wonders when Evilearl will begin to speak
20110102 23:33:46< Evilearl> sorry looking for the right words for my question
20110102 23:34:04< Espreon> Ah.
20110102 23:34:15< Evilearl> it's been a year and a half since I've been back in the community, and stuff seems to have changed
20110102 23:35:19< Evilearl> the reason I'm back is that I'm almost done rewriting my campaign, but I have yet to defeat "scenario not found" when I start it up
20110102 23:36:00< Evilearl> I've built my main file based on the main files of working campaigns
20110102 23:36:30< Evilearl> checked to make sure that the scenario ID and the "first scenario" part matched
20110102 23:36:56< Evilearl> directory paths should work to the best that I can tell
20110102 23:37:19< Evilearl> but I'm still hitting my head on my keyboard trying to make this work
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20110102 23:38:04< Evilearl> hello
20110102 23:39:06< Espreon> I'm here, I'm here...
20110102 23:39:26< Evilearl> I'll just go post my problem in the forum so that more people see it
20110102 23:40:20< Espreon> Evilearl: You developed for 1.6, right?
20110102 23:40:41< Evilearl> ya
20110102 23:40:49< Evilearl> I've rehacked it together for 1.8
20110102 23:40:59< Evilearl> even ran wmllint on it
20110102 23:41:28< Espreon> Evilearl: I'll look at it if you zip/tar it up and send it to me.
20110102 23:41:34< Evilearl> ok
20110102 23:41:37< shadowmaster> con verted @campaigns to ~add-ons too?
20110102 23:42:12< Evilearl> yep
20110102 23:42:35< Evilearl> external data works so I know that something isn't right for telling the campaign what folder to go to for scenarios
20110102 23:43:03< shadowmaster> paste your _main.cfg in http://wesnoth.pastebin.com
20110102 23:44:43< Evilearl> it's on there
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20110102 23:45:47< shadowmaster> where? link, please
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20110102 23:45:57< Evilearl> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/phkbQZB6
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20110102 23:46:18< shadowmaster> so many line-breaks :/
20110102 23:46:20< Evilearl> the spacing is weird because gedit
20110102 23:46:49< Evilearl> when I open it in that it would show half of the line-breaks gone
20110102 23:46:51< Espreon> Evilearl: Convert all occurrences of @ to ~
20110102 23:46:52< Espreon> @ is obsolete
20110102 23:47:06< shadowmaster> it's not related, but you are using [binary_path] wrong
20110102 23:47:09< shadowmaster> the defines should be CAMPAIGN_INSANE_HERMIT, not INSANE_HERMIT
20110102 23:47:19< Evilearl> line 15?
20110102 23:47:40< Evilearl> when I deleted that one the external data stopped working
20110102 23:47:46< shadowmaster> also, the includes should be ~add-ons/foobar, not @data/add-ons/foobar
20110102 23:47:53< Evilearl> ok
20110102 23:48:07< shadowmaster> yeah, about the [binary_path]s.
20110102 23:48:08< shadowmaster> you are polluting the global namespace
20110102 23:48:36< shadowmaster> generally add-ons use a dedicated external_data dir containing data files with names that won't clash anywhere
20110102 23:49:01< shadowmaster> and define a [binary_path] for that dir out of their preprocessor conditional
20110102 23:49:23< Evilearl> so which one should delete?
20110102 23:49:56< shadowmaster> deleting 15-19 isn't enough. You'll also need to relocate the files for the campaign image and icon
20110102 23:50:45< shadowmaster> as an example, my add-on imports "data/add-ons/After_the_Storm/public". Under public/ there's an images/ dir with <prefix>-icon.png and <prefizx>-logo.png
20110102 23:50:58< shadowmaster> where <prefix> is the campaign's abbreviation
20110102 23:51:06< Evilearl> ok
20110102 23:51:18< Evilearl> I just threw that folder into the images folder for simplicity
20110102 23:51:43< shadowmaster> yeah, but if you import *all* images you are polluting the global namespace as I said
20110102 23:51:52< shadowmaster> that's the prime cause of add-ons breaking other add-ons
20110102 23:52:21< Evilearl> I'm still not understanding the global namespace thing
20110102 23:52:42< Evilearl> is that when I don't define that the stuff is only within my folder?
20110102 23:52:47< shadowmaster> Espreon: translate for me :p
20110102 23:53:19< Evilearl> I never should have thrown myself facefirst into wml coding
20110102 23:53:36< Espreon> Evilearl: What you're doing right now is having all of your images exported to the game's global cache. So, if there were another addon using an image with an identical file name, there would be a clash.
20110102 23:53:53< Evilearl> I see now
20110102 23:55:59< Evilearl> would campaign ID's also apply to this?
20110102 23:56:13< Evilearl> I mean scenario IDs
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20110102 23:56:31< shadowmaster> no
20110102 23:56:32< Espreon> In your situation, no.
20110102 23:56:44< shadowmaster> only MP scenarios can conflict with each other
20110102 23:56:51< shadowmaster> single player campaigns are loaded individually
20110102 23:57:05< Evilearl> ok
20110102 23:57:07< shadowmaster> of course it'd be foolish to define two scenarios within your own campaign sharing the same id :p
20110102 23:57:16< Evilearl> I know that
20110102 23:57:24< Evilearl> just making sure I don't conflict other campaigns
20110102 23:59:59< Evilearl> made those fixes and I'm going to test it now
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