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20110115 14:36:48<+CIA-41> rei2: shadowm * r67bc22fde653 /modules.available/pub/01_Knowing.inc.pl: cmd/Knowing: add a trigger for "^i know(<punctuation>*)$"i
20110115 14:36:55<+CIA-41> rei2: shadowm * r007263f38e5f /modules.available/pub/01_Knowing.inc.pl: 
20110115 14:36:55<+CIA-41> rei2: Revert "cmd/Knowing: add a trigger for "^i know(<punctuation>*)$"i"
20110115 14:36:55<+CIA-41> rei2: This reverts commit 67bc22fde6538aeea4e76f4cf39a4ff7365d9458.
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20110115 17:23:59<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: grickit * r8634 /branches/irc-bots/grillobot/grillobot.pl: Update version, and new syntax for lobby->IRC
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20110115 19:49:51< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: I'm curious as to why you guys mentioned something about keeping macros to a minimum earlier.
20110115 19:50:19< Aethaeryn> It seems to be exactly the opposite of what structured programming techniques suggest.
20110115 19:50:28< Aethaeryn> It would be the equivalent of writing everything in main
20110115 19:51:00< shadowmaster> if you really knew anything about modern languages such as C++ you'd understand what the problems imposed by preprocessed code are.
20110115 19:52:09< Aethaeryn> So essentially this is about performance issues with WML?
20110115 19:52:10< shadowmaster> to get it out of the way: macros. are. not. functions.
20110115 19:52:54< shadowmaster> while macros were really the only way to keep the code clean (to a degree) until 1.5.x, nowadays far more superior techniques exist
20110115 19:53:01< Aethaeryn> Ugh. This is why I'm going to write as much as possible in Lua.
20110115 19:53:08< Aethaeryn> I guess I'll use Lua to declare tags instead of using macros.
20110115 19:53:10< shadowmaster> namely, [fire_event] and Lua
20110115 19:53:11< Aethaeryn> Would that be better?
20110115 19:54:12< Aethaeryn> Instead of {MACRO foo bar} I'll do [lua_defined_tag] asdf="foo" qwerty="bar [/lua_defined_tag]
20110115 19:54:22< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Is that preferred for complex things like what I'm doing in MoD?
20110115 19:56:29< shadowmaster> I won't answer that, but I'll instead tell you to consider how most "built-in" WML actions are implemented in 1.9.x.
20110115 20:00:56< zookeeper> macros are bad. macros are bad.
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20110115 21:25:05< Gambit> But... I love macros. :(
20110115 21:25:29< shadowmaster> because you are ignorant.
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20110115 21:26:09< Aethaeryn> There is an issue of human readability
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20110115 21:36:43< Gambit> Well that was... unexpected.
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20110115 21:39:26< Espreon> Macros... are evil.
20110115 21:40:00< Gambit> Nope you're wrong.
20110115 21:40:02< Gambit> Google it.
20110115 21:40:18< Espreon> Lies.
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