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20110129 02:01:30<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r8743 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/ (core.cfg spawn_units.cfg terrain_editor.cfg): Making the class DungeonOpt more powerful to greatly simplify code, especially by automatically finding unit images in spawn_units.cfg
20110129 02:12:23<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r8744 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/ (core.cfg spawn_units.cfg): Finding unit cost the same way through the class now...
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20110129 02:48:49<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r8746 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/ (lua/spawn_units.cfg todo): Now that it is easier to add unit creation options, I finished the Water/Swamp/Nature categories.
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20110129 03:07:59< Aethaeryn> I'm approaching the finishing stretch of MoD. Just 4 more feature categories and all the miscellaneous stuff.
20110129 03:08:23< Aethaeryn> Of course, most of the features left are the ones that make it fun and RPG-ish. Most of what I've done so far are really only visible to the host. :-P
20110129 03:15:58< Gambit> Aethaeryn: have you experimented with the custom guis lua allows for yet?
20110129 03:16:20< Gambit> I'm anxious to hear how friendly that is from one of the non-lua-obsessed people
20110129 03:39:59< Aethaeryn> Gambit: who's one of the non-lua-obsessed people?
20110129 03:40:46< Gambit> Well if you're lua obsessed you recently became that way
20110129 03:41:21< Gambit> So there's less chance of "OMFG LUA IS THE BEST" and more chance of an actual comparison from someone who has extensively used both means.
20110129 03:41:40< Aethaeryn> Well, I implemented an object in Lua.
20110129 03:42:25< Gambit> I heard.
20110129 03:43:03< Aethaeryn> But I have implemented menus through WML tables.
20110129 03:43:14< Aethaeryn> not http://wiki.wesnoth.org/LuaWML:Display#wesnoth.show_dialog
20110129 03:43:40< Gambit> oh my
20110129 03:43:46< Gambit> that looks terribly unfriendly.
20110129 03:43:51< Gambit> Moar abstraction required.
20110129 03:44:23< Aethaeryn> Well, duh
20110129 03:44:33< Aethaeryn> In fact, I find the WML tables too unfriendly
20110129 03:44:39< Aethaeryn> I abstracted away from them via an object
20110129 03:46:38< Aethaeryn> Gambit: do you have trunk checked out from Wesnoth-umc-dev?
20110129 03:46:49< Gambit> Nope
20110129 03:46:59< Gambit> Just my two projects from the irc-bots branch
20110129 03:46:59< Aethaeryn> I'd show you directly but it appears to be down
20110129 03:47:11< Aethaeryn> I have too many projects
20110129 03:47:19< Aethaeryn> so it's just eaiser to have /branches/1.8 and /trunk checked out
20110129 03:47:34< Aethaeryn> I will have 6 projects published in 1.10 if I can get them all done in time.
20110129 03:47:45< Aethaeryn> OOP in Lua will really help get that deadline in
20110129 03:48:09< Aethaeryn> http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/ 
20110129 03:48:13< Aethaeryn> Gambit: Is that loading for you?
20110129 03:48:21< Gambit> janebot: http://wesnoth-umc-dev.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wesnoth-umc-dev/trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/
20110129 03:48:22<+janebot> Gambit: I can't get that page for some reason.
20110129 03:48:28< Gambit> Apparently no.
20110129 03:48:58< Gambit> That was a surprisingly fast no too.
20110129 03:49:09< Gambit> Aethaeryn: That was down two days ago for me.
20110129 03:49:23< Gambit> Has it been down all this time?
20110129 03:49:30< Gambit> Or is that news to you?
20110129 03:50:03< Gambit> I'm too lazy and shy to report in #sourceforge because I just know they're going to ask me troubleshooting questions that I know nothing about.
20110129 03:52:47< Gambit> unless it's a sourceforge wide problem not specific to Wesnoth-UMC-Dev
20110129 03:53:02< Gambit> in which case I'm just another person bugging them about a problem they're already scrambling to solve
20110129 04:04:42< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: http://ht.ly/3LVIA
20110129 04:05:56< Gambit> now I know
20110129 04:05:56<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
20110129 04:06:03< shadowm_laptop> all SF.net users and admins must set a new password now
20110129 04:06:33< shadowm_laptop> >
20110129 04:06:35< shadowm_laptop> We recently experienced a directed attack on SourceForge infrastructure
20110129 04:06:38< shadowm_laptop> (http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-net-attack/) and so we are
20110129 04:06:38< shadowm_laptop> resetting all passwords in the sf.net database -- just in case.  We're
20110129 04:06:38< shadowm_laptop> e-mailing all sf.net registered account holders to let you know about this
20110129 04:06:39< shadowm_laptop> change to your account. 
20110129 04:06:41< shadowm_laptop> Our investigation uncovered evidence of password sniffing attempts. We have
20110129 04:06:44< shadowm_laptop> no evidence to suggest that your password has been compromised. But, what
20110129 04:06:49< shadowm_laptop> we definitely don't want is to find out in 2 months that passwords were
20110129 04:06:50< shadowm_laptop> compromised and we didn't take action.
20110129 04:06:52< shadowm_laptop> So, as a proactive measure we've invalidated your SourceForge.net account
20110129 04:06:55< shadowm_laptop> password. To access the site again, you'll need to go through the email
20110129 04:06:57< shadowm_laptop> recovery process and choose a shiny new password:
20110129 04:07:00< shadowm_laptop> >
20110129 04:08:17< Gambit> well yeah I got that, but it doesn't mention viewvc at all
20110129 04:08:18< shadowm_laptop> I should note that the attack to forums.wesnoth.org has not ceased, and due to a mistake of mine, there was a 7-minute window during which Tor was unblocked.
20110129 04:08:37< shadowm_laptop> Gambit: see the first link
20110129 04:08:49< Gambit> I didn't visit it :(
20110129 04:08:54< shadowm_laptop> visit it.
20110129 04:09:06< Gambit> you already sent it to me though
20110129 04:09:10< Gambit> why would I visit it again?
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20110129 04:09:45< Gambit> I read your link
20110129 04:09:49< Gambit> not the one in the email
20110129 04:09:50< Gambit> rawr
20110129 04:10:09<@shadowm_laptop> Gambit: http://ht.ly/3LVIA
20110129 04:10:15<@shadowm_laptop> [blah blah]
20110129 04:10:16<@shadowm_laptop> * CVS Hosting
20110129 04:10:16<@shadowm_laptop> * ViewVC (web based code browsing)
20110129 04:10:16<@shadowm_laptop> * New Release upload capability
20110129 04:10:17<@shadowm_laptop> * Interactive Shell services
20110129 04:10:20<@shadowm_laptop> [blah blah]
20110129 04:10:40< Gambit> Yes I know.
20110129 04:10:44<@shadowm_laptop> "As a short term response, we’ve taken down the following services to prevent any possible escalation:"
20110129 04:10:54<@shadowm_laptop> Gambit: you start to understand now?
20110129 04:10:54< Gambit> I said *that the email* didn't mention viewvc
20110129 04:10:54< Gambit> :\
20110129 04:10:59<@shadowm_laptop> why should the email mention it?
20110129 04:11:06< Gambit> because it's important
20110129 04:11:18<@shadowm_laptop> the email mentions all that is important
20110129 04:11:20<@shadowm_laptop> 1) the link
20110129 04:11:25<@shadowm_laptop> 2) that you need to reset your password
20110129 04:11:44<@shadowm_laptop> in case you didn't get it, the link I gave here, and the link in the email, are the same
20110129 04:12:00< Gambit> Yes I know.
20110129 04:12:05< Gambit> [22:09:06] <Gambit> you already sent it to me though
20110129 04:12:05< Gambit> [22:09:09] <Gambit> why would I visit it again?
20110129 04:12:15<@shadowm_laptop> fuck you
20110129 04:12:19<@shadowm_laptop> !00:08:18 <Gambit> well yeah I got that, but it doesn't mention viewvc at all
20110129 04:12:20< Gambit> Why are you repeating everything I said five minutes ago?
20110129 04:12:26< Gambit> shadowm_laptop: Refering to the email.
20110129 04:12:29< Gambit> RAWR
20110129 04:12:31<@shadowm_laptop> I should ask why you are complaining
20110129 04:12:40< Gambit> I'm not?
20110129 04:12:43<@shadowm_laptop> 00:08:18 <Gambit> well yeah I got that, but it doesn't mention viewvc at all
20110129 04:12:56<@shadowm_laptop> you know what
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20110129 04:13:15 * shadowm_laptop goes to watch TV
20110129 04:13:18< Gambit> Bye
20110129 04:13:54< Gambit> Aethaeryn: now we know
20110129 04:13:55<+shikadibot> And knowing is half the battle!
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20110129 04:31:19< Aethaeryn> Great
20110129 04:31:54< Aethaeryn> when I'm gone for 30-40 minutes I miss someone by 20 minutes who wants to ask me about the add-on I've spent most of the past month on
20110129 04:31:57< Aethaeryn> :-P
20110129 04:32:15< Aethaeryn> I hate it when people on IRC miss the point of IRC and wait less than 10 minutes for an answer
20110129 04:32:32< Aethaeryn> People aren't on IRC to actively chat the whole time they're on, they leave it up in case someone wants to contact them
20110129 04:38:52< shadowmaster> way too many people must be trying to reset their SF.net passwords right now
20110129 04:39:10< shadowmaster>  guess I'll leave it for tomorrow
20110129 04:41:04< AI0867> Aethaeryn: the standard way of putting lua stuff in their own files is to write a pure lua file (extension .lua) and then include it using wesnoth.dofile() or .require() or the like
20110129 04:41:42< AI0867> while putting them in a WML works (and can then be included using standard WML inclusion, it doesn't allow syntax highlighting or inclusion from other lua files
20110129 04:41:56< AI0867> s/,/)
20110129 05:04:33< Aethaeryn> AI0867: well, I created a special filter in emacs for /lua :-P
20110129 05:04:56< Aethaeryn> but really, what happened with MoD is me starting with a bunch of macro .cfg files that have been more and more Lua
20110129 05:05:01< Aethaeryn> until entirely Lua
20110129 05:05:16< Aethaeryn> At first, just procedural, too, then functional, and now gradually more and more object-oriented.
20110129 05:05:24< Aethaeryn> So it'll probably wind up with one object for each file
20110129 05:05:24< Aethaeryn> We'll see
20110129 05:06:22< Aethaeryn> AI0867: One issue with renaming them is that I lose the history on Sourceforge
20110129 05:27:03< Aethaeryn> "Blybry" is an interesting unit name
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20110129 05:40:23<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r8748 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/ (core.cfg modify_side.cfg modify_unit.cfg use_lua.cfg): Cleaning up code, mostly the WML tables.
20110129 05:43:16< Aethaeryn> AI0867: Do you think it's better to rename them all to .lua than leave them as they are?
20110129 05:43:40< Aethaeryn> Even though renaming in SVN isn't very... convenient?
20110129 05:53:27< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: what's so hard about "svn mv file1 file2" ?
20110129 05:53:40< shadowmaster> oh wait. let me guess.
20110129 05:53:43< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: SVN handles moving fine?
20110129 05:53:52< Aethaeryn> Is that CVS that has issues then?
20110129 05:53:54< shadowmaster> <insert long philosophical rnt here about how there should be a svn rename command>
20110129 05:54:04< shadowmaster> Aethaeryn: SVN doesn't have issues
20110129 05:54:09< Aethaeryn> oh
20110129 05:54:10< shadowmaster> history is preserved
20110129 05:54:12< Aethaeryn> definitely CVS then
20110129 05:54:17< Aethaeryn> I know one of them loses history
20110129 05:54:37< Aethaeryn> something like if you don't get the filename right on the first try, too bad
20110129 05:54:40< Aethaeryn> Not SVN?
20110129 05:55:15< AI0867> svn preserves the history of copies
20110129 05:55:26< AI0867> moves are implemented as copy + delete
20110129 05:55:52 * shadowmaster bashes head against wall
20110129 05:55:54< Aethaeryn> ah
20110129 05:58:11< AI0867> if it didn't, svn's implementation of tagging wouldn't work
20110129 05:58:26< AI0867> or, at least, the tag wouldn't have any history
20110129 06:21:16<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r8749 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/maps/cavern.map: Beginning to draw a cave map with several different predrawn sections.
20110129 06:24:56<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r8750 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/ (16 files): Renaming most .cfg files to .lua because of AI's suggestion.
20110129 06:34:25<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r8751 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/ (5 files): Removing the [lua] and reindenting.
20110129 06:34:27< Aethaeryn> AI0867: Okay, now what changes?
20110129 06:34:40< Aethaeryn> I have to call on them in lua before I can use them?
20110129 06:39:14< Aethaeryn> found it
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20110129 06:40:50< Aethaeryn> Basically, I have use_lua.cfg as the thing that sets up the Lua via [lua] and calls on the .lua files
20110129 06:41:14< Aethaeryn> Since it's going to be turned into an MP campaign so I don't want to do it through the scenario itself
20110129 06:42:04<+CIA-41> wesnoth-umc-dev: aethaeryn * r8752 /trunk/Master_of_Dungeons/lua/use_lua.cfg: Using wesnoth.dofile to load all of the /lua files
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