--- Log opened Wed Jan 12 00:00:02 2011
--- Day changed Wed Jan 12 2011
20110112 00:00:02< vultraz> i just want to generate a little code so i can make a map of mine nice
20110112 00:00:08< vultraz> for the time being
20110112 00:00:16< fendrin> The coder is still you, it only assists in that task. Microsoft visual studio does this on windows for c++ and other languages for example.
20110112 00:00:36< vultraz> while working on learning wml
20110112 00:00:48< vultraz> but i need any assistance i can get :P
20110112 00:01:19< fendrin> Still, the eclipse plugin is not the assistance you search for.
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20110112 00:18:21< hulavuta> Test
20110112 00:18:23< hulavuta> Test 2
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20110112 00:18:34< Hulavuta> Test 3
20110112 00:18:36< Hulavuta> k
20110112 00:18:38< Hulavuta> all good 
20110112 00:18:39< Hulavuta> bye
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20110112 05:08:26< ancestral> Someone name a unit!
20110112 05:08:54< shadowmaster> Elvish Shyde
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20110112 05:09:02< ancestral> (notice I didn't specify monetary unit, or unit of measure, or…)
20110112 05:09:37< ancestral> http://mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/#elvish_shyde
20110112 05:09:43< ancestral> Still loads a little rough
20110112 05:09:59< ancestral> (I have to reload it like two times…)
20110112 05:10:12< Gambit> ancestral: the doublefoot
20110112 05:10:22< shadowmaster> it does take really long
20110112 05:10:25< Gambit> doublefoot is copyright 2010 David White
20110112 05:10:35< ancestral> Warning: you're currently downloading a large file, I know
20110112 05:10:48< shadowmaster> and...the portrait ends up at the bottom of the page?
20110112 05:10:56< ancestral> reload :(
20110112 05:11:05< ancestral> I'm going to work on that right now
20110112 05:11:08< ancestral> Gambit: Doublefoot? ¿Qué es eso?
20110112 05:11:16< ancestral> Is it like Doubleback?
20110112 05:11:27< Gambit> Sirp was explaining to me once that all units of measurement are arbitrary.
20110112 05:11:31< ancestral> (or double down? or double trouble? double meat?)
20110112 05:11:42< shadowmaster> I thought Doublefoot was Bigfoot's little brother
20110112 05:11:50< Gambit> Whilst discussing a calculus problem.
20110112 05:11:55< ancestral> shadowmaster: Twin brother
20110112 05:12:12< shadowmaster> Biggy was born first :P
20110112 05:12:13< ancestral> or maybe Bigfoot has twin brothers
20110112 05:12:36< ancestral> Gambit: There was an Earth Sandwich contest
20110112 05:12:51< Gambit> janebot: !translate ¿Qué es eso?
20110112 05:12:51< ancestral> That lasted for "100 arbitrary units of time"
20110112 05:12:53< janebot> Gambit: es to en: What is that?
20110112 05:13:35-!- mode/#wesnoth [+o shadowmaster] by ChanServ
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20110112 05:13:39<@shadowmaster> next time, just ask me.
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20110112 05:14:01< ancestral> Haha
20110112 05:14:13 * shadowmaster goes to add "janebot: !translate" to Rei2' filter
20110112 05:14:41< Gambit> shadowmaster: :\
20110112 05:14:47< shadowmaster> done!
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20110112 05:15:23< ancestral> shadowmaster: Surely there could be some use for janebot to translate from, say Polish or Russian or some other language that you may not be fluent in?
20110112 05:15:38< Gambit> So you're going to automagically kick people from channels for taking advantage of one of janebots features to help with internationalization?
20110112 05:15:42< Gambit> Yeah what ancestral said :P
20110112 05:15:48< Gambit> She does input -> english
20110112 05:15:53< shadowmaster> Gambit, ancestral Rei2 only handles channels she's opped in
20110112 05:15:55< ancestral> (because we get people asking things in other languages soooo often…)
20110112 05:16:03< shadowmaster> and that's only mine atm.
20110112 05:16:12< Gambit> shadowmaster: just the other day I used her to translate polish seo spam
20110112 05:16:16< ancestral> Also, that was an epic boot sound effect my client played.
20110112 05:16:18< shadowmaster> Gambit: cool.
20110112 05:16:22< shadowmaster> again, irrelevant :P
20110112 05:16:32< Gambit> ancestral: ewww
20110112 05:16:35< Gambit> what client?
20110112 05:16:39< ancestral> Colloquy
20110112 05:17:34< shadowmaster> actually, I explicitly coded the word filter so she'd only handle my channel and nowhere else
20110112 05:17:54< shadowmaster> cue Gambit spamming ##gambot with stuff that's likely to annoy me.
20110112 05:18:00< Gambit> Okay so nobody speak polish in ##shadowm
20110112 05:18:22< Gambit> shadowmaster: nah
20110112 05:18:23< shadowmaster> Gambit: nope, only Spanish, English,and Japanese.
20110112 05:18:51< shadowmaster> and come on, you *did*spam my channel as soon as Rei2 disconnected the other night
20110112 05:18:55< shadowmaster> :P
20110112 05:19:00< Gambit> shadowmaster: what about poor loonybot?
20110112 05:19:02< Gambit> He only speaks c++
20110112 05:19:08< Gambit> Now nobody will be able to talk to him.
20110112 05:19:28< shadowmaster> I'll eat my socks if I see janebot translataing C++ to English.
20110112 05:19:37< Gambit> haha
20110112 05:19:48< Gambit> You're on!
20110112 05:19:53< Gambit> Oh, and you may not wash them first.
20110112 05:19:58< ancestral> Can janebot translate between C++ and Java?
20110112 05:20:19< shadowmaster> hint: janebot can't  understand C++
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20110112 05:21:29< ancestral> I'd be curious to see where C/C++ would rank with real world languages, for people who are learning/taking classes
20110112 05:21:55< shadowmaster> Gambit: I may as well impose a condition
20110112 05:22:17< Gambit> oh?
20110112 05:22:33< Gambit> ancestral: I think I'd have an easier time of those than latin :(
20110112 05:22:50< shadowmaster> it must not be some silly "spell-translation" like "int main left-parenthesis int argc comma char asterisk asterisk argv right-parenthesis left-curly-brace
20110112 05:22:52< ancestral> Does Aethaeryn agree?
20110112 05:23:01< ancestral> Since he knows both fairly well
20110112 05:23:15< Gambit> shadowmaster: I wasn't actually going to :$
20110112 05:23:32 * shadowmaster throws a pair of dirty socks at Gambit
20110112 05:23:43< Gambit> That was never a condition of our arrangement.
20110112 05:23:52< shadowmaster> you had me hoping for an awesome C++ translator!
20110112 05:24:23< ancestral> lolcat translator plz
20110112 05:24:28< Gambit> shadowmaster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwF7n8WyOoU
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20110112 05:25:03< Gambit> ancestral: as soon as google translate API gets that :P
20110112 05:25:16< Gambit> or if you know some other website for that
20110112 05:26:15< ancestral> There exist at least one reference dictionary site. Direct translation, I'm not sure
20110112 05:26:17< Gambit> hmmm I suppose I could parse this http://speaklolcat.com/
20110112 05:26:22< ancestral> lolcat is very phrase-oriented
20110112 05:26:27< Gambit> since it allows input with GET
20110112 05:27:01< Gambit> http://speaklolcat.com/?from=What+phrase+shall+I+translate%3F
20110112 05:27:06< shadowmaster> real men POST using teln et
20110112 05:27:14< shadowmaster> telnet, even
20110112 05:27:52< Gambit> oh wait
20110112 05:27:58< Gambit> that website doesn't go in reverse
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20110112 06:28:14< ancestral> elias: http://mproud.com/wesnoth/bestiary/#elvish_archer — Currently, there are issues with displaying the portraits and loading the page, per-unit resistance and defense overrides are missing, advancement "tree" is missing and all the data is through one JavaScript file (which is very bad) but I hope to correct all those issues
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20110112 06:29:43< ancestral> For now, you can type in another unit, #some_unit to see that unit's page (may need to reload once or twice, which yes, I need to fix)
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20110112 12:49:42< vultraz> i have an idea about terrain. who do i buzz?
20110112 13:14:00< zookeeper> the ideas forum.
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20110112 14:59:52< Gregorius> strange, I can't connect to MP server :(
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20110112 17:39:01< dusankrehel> hi. moin.
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20110112 17:40:26< rothsdad> i cannot connect to the offical server
20110112 17:40:36< PetePorty> It's down.
20110112 17:40:47< PetePorty> Use the dicplobby.
20110112 17:40:53< rothsdad> oh, thx
20110112 17:41:00< PetePorty> Np.
20110112 17:43:08< dusankrehel> PetePorty: when will he okey?
20110112 17:43:35< PetePorty> What? When will the server be back up?
20110112 17:43:42< PetePorty> I have no idea, really.
20110112 17:44:33< Soliton> (after you tell the admin about it.)
20110112 17:44:33< dusankrehel> dicplobby - what its?
20110112 17:44:49< Soliton> just wait a bit and it'll be up again.
20110112 17:45:40< dusankrehel> them muss i wait and wait :)
20110112 17:45:55< PetePorty> dusankrehel, it's an alternate server... a backup, if you will.
20110112 17:46:20< PetePorty> I don't know about this, I don't even play Wesnoth... A friend of mine was just saying the server was down...
20110112 17:46:32< dusankrehel> PetePorty: where is?
20110112 17:48:51< dusankrehel> server is OKEY.
20110112 17:48:53< Gambit> hint: The guy who just told you to wait a bit is probably fixing it right this very instant
20110112 17:48:59< PetePorty> I don't remember how to connect, really, but when connecting there is an option that allows you to join other servers. When you need to choose LAN, official server, local game or connect other server.
20110112 17:49:06< PetePorty> Gambit knows.
20110112 17:49:07< dusankrehel> can we play
20110112 17:49:12< PetePorty> Unlike myself.
20110112 17:49:26< Soliton> server is back up.
20110112 17:49:46< PetePorty> Yay! Thanks, Soliton.
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20110112 17:51:17< Cookiee> well i never am bothered to inform an admin when it occurs. thanks PP 
20110112 17:51:43< PetePorty> >.<
20110112 17:52:44< Cookiee> i tend to like to keep that to a minimum :S
20110112 17:55:10< PetePorty> Don't let them see us together in public! Go back to tthe channel! >.<
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20110112 22:54:03< jcordeiro> hi
20110112 22:54:30< jcordeiro> anyone has any idea about whats hapening to the oficial server?
20110112 22:59:26< jcordeiro> admins, wee are currently unable to join the official server
20110112 22:59:49< jcordeiro> connection drops before wee see the lobby
20110112 23:00:15< jcordeiro> wee joining server2 becouse of that problem
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20110112 23:03:35< Gambit> Soliton: ^
20110112 23:04:18< vultraz> really? i got in fine
20110112 23:04:28< vultraz> after a few fails :P
20110112 23:04:43< vultraz> and a restart of my computer
20110112 23:04:45< jcordeiro> :P and thats fine
20110112 23:04:55< vultraz> at least im in!
20110112 23:05:30< jcordeiro> tell me something
20110112 23:05:34< jcordeiro> when i make a game
20110112 23:05:49< jcordeiro> who is hosting the game? my pc? or server?
20110112 23:05:56< jcordeiro> any port forwards needes?
20110112 23:06:18< vultraz> i dunno
20110112 23:06:21< Gambit> you are
20110112 23:06:33< Gambit> er no that's not right
20110112 23:06:35< Gambit> Everyone is.
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20110112 23:06:47< Gambit> You send a copy of the scenario to the server.
20110112 23:06:52< Gambit> The server sends that to everyone else.
20110112 23:06:56< jcordeiro> Gambit: any port forwards needed?
20110112 23:07:05< Gambit> When they take a turn they send their turn and the server sends it to everyone else.
20110112 23:07:13< Gambit> jcordeiro: Not that I know of.
20110112 23:07:27< Gambit> Wesnoth is one of the only games I can host because of port forwarding.
20110112 23:07:33< jcordeiro> so server ghosts the game
20110112 23:07:37< Gambit> so I don't think
20110112 23:07:51< jcordeiro> some one connects to some one
20110112 23:08:03< jcordeiro> if no port forward needed
20110112 23:08:07< jcordeiro> wee are all clients
20110112 23:08:14< jcordeiro> and official server is server
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20110112 23:08:55< vultraz> i have a terrain suggestion where do i buzz?
20110112 23:09:12< Gambit> jcordeiro: yes I don't think your computer talks to the others at all
20110112 23:09:18< Gambit> vultraz: ideas forum I suppose
20110112 23:09:38< jcordeiro> Gambit: yea, wesnoth oficial server does that
20110112 23:09:44< jcordeiro> it is the server
20110112 23:10:09< vultraz> it would be nice if a unit affects the terrain (eg, trees rustle when a unit is moving through the forest
20110112 23:10:20< jcordeiro> vultraz: :P
20110112 23:10:58< Gambit> vultraz: Ah you want to ping eleazarr
20110112 23:11:02< Gambit> just a second I'll get a link
20110112 23:11:30< Gambit> vultraz: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30992
20110112 23:11:56< Gambit> You can also find him in #wesnoth-dev sometimes (He's not there at the moment though)
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20110112 23:18:31< zookeeper> vultraz, i already answered the last time you asked...
20110112 23:19:06< vultraz> sorry i didn't see it :(
20110112 23:20:04< zookeeper> trees rustling would be pretty utopistic from an art PoV, but ripples and splashes in water might be nice and would be a lot simpler to do
20110112 23:21:27< vultraz> yes that's also whay i mean as well
20110112 23:21:39< vultraz> water 
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