--- Log opened Fri Jan 14 00:00:16 2011
20110114 00:01:02-!- Dylan_Hsu [~Dylan_Hsu@unaffiliated/dylan-hsu/x-9213543] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 00:06:00-!- mthe [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 00:06:58-!- rafusy [rav@torvalds.rootnode.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 00:22:18-!- SekoIdiootti [~chatzilla@cs145063.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]]
20110114 00:22:22-!- phlaem [~a@e178118181.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20110114 00:23:49-!- Espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 00:23:57-!- Espreon [~espreon@wesnoth/developer/espreon] has left #wesnoth []
20110114 00:31:26< Aethaeryn> hagabaka: Some people *really* care about speed.
20110114 00:31:28-!- lizard_r [~Rolf@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110114 00:31:40< Aethaeryn> Oftentimes deserved, oftentimes not.
20110114 00:32:06< Aethaeryn> For those who care about speed, they'd rather code in C, FORTRAN, or Assembly than Python, Perl, or Lua.
20110114 00:32:24< Aethaeryn> There are considerable differences.
20110114 00:32:25< hagabaka> that's over-generalizing
20110114 00:32:38< Aethaeryn> How is that over-generalizing?
20110114 00:33:06< Tomsik> Who codes in fortran and asm?
20110114 00:33:07< hagabaka> "care about speed" should not directly lead to a choice in programming language
20110114 00:33:36-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 00:33:41< Aethaeryn> Tomsik: Fortran is a very popular computational language I think.
20110114 00:33:56< hagabaka> higher level languages sometimes enable better optimizations, so better performance than lower level ones
20110114 00:34:00< Aethaeryn> hagabaka: There are some very legitimate reasons. Computational physics, embedded systems (really weak CPUs), even computer graphics in general...
20110114 00:34:17< Tomsik> no no no
20110114 00:34:18-!- Nissarin [~nissarin@91.202.192.6] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20110114 00:34:36< Tomsik> there are high-level languages that are really fast
20110114 00:34:36< joo> Or those programs used to find the 10^10^10th digit of pi
20110114 00:34:50< Tomsik> it's that popular ones somehow are interpreted
20110114 00:34:57< hagabaka> if everyone can code perfectly in one language or another, then maybe we should all use machine languages, but the reason for higher level languages to exist is to make it easier to write better code, often better-performing code
20110114 00:34:58< joo> Bad example I suppose
20110114 00:35:13< Aethaeryn> Or Mersenne Primes
20110114 00:35:46< Tomsik> also, you probably couldn't hand-write code in asm that would be faster than good-optimising compilers
20110114 00:35:48< Aethaeryn> hagabaka: Obviously these are PhDs in academia, NASA, etc.
20110114 00:35:51< Aethaeryn> Not the average programmer.
20110114 00:36:22< Tomsik> "average programmer" nowadays seems to be "I read a book on php once"
20110114 00:36:22< hagabaka> if you do computational physics in C for example, you might get limited by the bulit-in datatype sizes, and then you have to use an external library for arbitrary precision math, which might end up performing about equally as python
20110114 00:36:52< Aethaeryn> Yes, I like Pythonic datatypes...
20110114 00:37:03< Aethaeryn> How it stores numbers is pretty cool.
20110114 00:37:07-!- martin___ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e966.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 00:37:32< Tomsik> I have an utter dislike for dynamically-typed languages, so well
20110114 00:38:29< hagabaka> and computer graphics, usually the same code will get run on the GPU no matter what language you "code" in
20110114 00:39:05-!- martin_ [~martin@dtmd-4d0bc254.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 00:39:09< Aethaeryn> Also, operating systems tend to be coded in C
20110114 00:39:14< Aethaeryn> Not Python.
20110114 00:39:24< Aethaeryn> Though since Linux is GPL, I guess you could rewrite it in Python and see what happens.
20110114 00:39:31< joo> Hehehe
20110114 00:39:45< hagabaka> well, C is one of the languages that directly compiles to machine code
20110114 00:40:04< Tomsik> you'd die of old age trying to figure out why your OS is constantly failing, Aethaeryn 
20110114 00:40:32< hagabaka> that's a necessity for operating systems, but not for applications which run in the operating system
20110114 00:40:42< Aethaeryn> But seriously... C/C++ people even mock the performance of *Java*
20110114 00:40:51< Tomsik> Java is ffing slow
20110114 00:41:08< joo> fuffing?
20110114 00:41:09< Aethaeryn> Java's a hybrid language between compiled and interpreted.
20110114 00:41:36< Tomsik> Java's the greatest atrocity since cobol
20110114 00:41:39< hagabaka> both python and java can be byte-compiled
20110114 00:42:02< Aethaeryn> Yes
20110114 00:42:03< hagabaka> and python can be compiled to run on the java virtual machine
20110114 00:42:10< Aethaeryn> But is anyone here going to suggest that Python can *outperform* Java?
20110114 00:42:22-!- martin_ [~martin@dtmd-4d0bc254.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Client Quit]
20110114 00:42:22< hagabaka> I see no reason why it can't
20110114 00:42:29< Tomsik> Is anyone going to suggest that python and java can outperform *anything*
20110114 00:42:47< Aethaeryn> VisualBasic.
20110114 00:42:56< Aethaeryn> Probably C# too
20110114 00:43:00< joo> heh
20110114 00:43:19< hagabaka> of course, some features in the two languages don't have exact mappings to the other, so it's hard to do a fair comparison
20110114 00:43:34< Aethaeryn> If I were to do a wild guess, I'd say that Java's byte-code outperforms .NET's.
20110114 00:44:18< Tomsik> Bytecode is the root of most evil
20110114 00:44:35< hagabaka> heh
20110114 00:44:35< Aethaeryn> I like it.
20110114 00:44:52-!- barra_home is now known as barraAway
20110114 00:44:53< Aethaeryn> Imo, something that is not cross-platform is the root of most evil. :-P
20110114 00:45:02< Aethaeryn> Python and Java are alright in my book.
20110114 00:45:32< Tomsik> Aethaeryn: no, that's all evil
20110114 00:45:39< Tomsik> not being cross-platform
20110114 00:46:11< Aethaeryn> Idk, there are some cross-platform evils, like MS Office (Windows, and Mac).
20110114 00:46:31< Aethaeryn> Lack of using an open standard for its save files is imo a pretty big evil.
20110114 00:46:45< Aethaeryn> i.e. Pretty much everything Microsoft does.
20110114 00:47:31< Aethaeryn> I like the concept of being able to code my own program if I don't like the existing ones.
20110114 00:48:03-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-143.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: Smell ya later!]
20110114 00:48:05< Tomsik> D'oh
20110114 00:48:45< Aethaeryn> DRM is often cross-platform too
20110114 00:49:39< Tomsik> I dunno, I haven't had one
20110114 00:50:55< Tomsik> But there are more options than c/java/python
20110114 00:51:28< Aethaeryn> C, C++, Java, Python, Perl, Ruby, Lua, Tcl...
20110114 00:51:54< Aethaeryn> Javascript, Haskell, Fortran, Lisp (Emacs Lisp, Scheme)...
20110114 00:52:50< Tomsik> Then why are you sticking to python? :p
20110114 00:55:26-!- DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 01:02:20< Aethaeryn> Tomsik: in what way am I sticking to Python?
20110114 01:03:40< Tomsik> I dunno, you sound like this
20110114 01:04:31-!- Feufochmar [~Feufochma@99.82.69-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20110114 01:04:42< Aethaeryn> Well, if there is no specific reason for me to use a particular language, I'll probably choose Python because I like coding in it.
20110114 01:05:11< Aethaeryn> E.g. I'm learning Lua for Wesnoth, I'm going to have to use Java for 90% of my programming classes at my university, etc.
20110114 01:05:23< Aethaeryn> Usually, you don't get to choose your language.
20110114 01:05:40< Aethaeryn> To stick to one language is essentially limiting your options.
20110114 01:09:55-!- RedAdder [~Peter@p5089653F.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #wesnoth []
20110114 01:14:27-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has quit []
20110114 01:24:24-!- vurtual_ [~VistaRule@74.206.62.26] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 01:25:53-!- VurtualRuler98 [~VistaRule@74.206.62.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20110114 01:29:08-!- vurtual_ [~VistaRule@74.206.62.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20110114 01:29:15-!- VurtualRuler98 [~VistaRule@74.206.62.26] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 01:38:57-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-171-160-214.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze]
20110114 01:41:38-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 01:43:45-!- Tomsik [~Tomsik@bcc145.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Nothing]
20110114 01:48:32-!- DDR_ [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 01:53:32-!- DDR_ [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20110114 01:59:07-!- barraAway [barra@f050134129.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
20110114 02:10:47-!- fabi [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 02:12:09-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 02:18:17-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 02:45:22-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 02:46:26< [Relic]> Hello :)
20110114 03:41:40-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 03:45:10-!- kracker[BDC] [~ID@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org]
20110114 03:48:31-!- DDR_ [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 04:00:08-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 04:01:56-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has quit [Client Quit]
20110114 04:02:39-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 04:17:08-!- DDR_ is now known as DDR
20110114 04:18:28-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has left #wesnoth []
20110114 04:18:55-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 04:26:51-!- artisticdude [9442274a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.148.66.39.74] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 04:27:29-!- Blarumyrran [~Blarumyrr@wesnoth/artist/blarumyrran] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 04:27:45-!- Blarumyrran [~Blarumyrr@wesnoth/artist/blarumyrran] has left #wesnoth []
20110114 04:27:51-!- artisticdude [9442274a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.148.66.39.74] has quit [Client Quit]
20110114 04:45:36-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2fc27.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 04:45:36-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2fc27.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host]
20110114 04:45:36-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 04:48:48-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 04:50:37-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic
20110114 04:59:16-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20110114 05:04:00-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Quit: ...]
20110114 05:11:34-!- C27 [~chatzilla@c-98-247-251-224.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 05:33:13-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-75-45-25-77.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 05:36:16< un214> so what was wrong with mp server yesterday?
20110114 05:42:45-!- anomic_event [~gare@72-55-212-102.mammothnetworks.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
20110114 05:43:23-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-78-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 05:44:41-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 05:44:41-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 05:58:26-!- anomic_event [~gare@72-55-212-102.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 05:58:49-!- anomic_event [~gare@72-55-212-102.mammothnetworks.com] has left #wesnoth []
20110114 06:12:22-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has left #wesnoth []
20110114 06:17:18-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 06:17:48-!- Mkaysi [~Mkaysi@unaffiliated/mkaysi] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 06:34:37-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-78-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
20110114 06:42:39-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20110114 06:47:30-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-75-45-25-77.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 06:52:53-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20110114 06:54:47-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 07:05:12-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 07:09:06-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-182-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 07:09:06-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-182-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host]
20110114 07:09:06-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 07:13:15-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 07:14:30-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 07:29:25-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has quit [Quit: crimson_penguin]
20110114 07:41:20-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-143.mycingular.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 07:51:07-!- daglees [~belvedere@92.253.56.48] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 07:51:07-!- daglees [~belvedere@92.253.56.48] has quit [Changing host]
20110114 07:51:07-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 07:55:58-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-143.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: Smell ya later!]
20110114 08:17:18-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 08:23:29-!- Kleptomane21 [~hobbes@S01060019e3d6aaa1.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20110114 08:37:17-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20110114 08:39:14-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-171-160-214.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 08:42:13-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20110114 08:47:34-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 08:57:45-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20110114 09:07:09-!- joo [~joo@unaffiliated/joo] has quit [Quit: College.]
20110114 09:15:56-!- zookeeper [~l@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 09:36:11-!- miudyk [~Mateusz@raziel3.net.autocom.pl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 09:43:11-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-171-160-214.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze]
20110114 09:49:49-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20110114 09:50:36-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 09:51:50< Ivanovic> moin
20110114 09:58:24-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 10:02:27-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@79.117.34.180] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 10:02:27-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@79.117.34.180] has quit [Changing host]
20110114 10:02:27-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 10:06:17-!- mthe [~mthe@82.133.106.153] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 10:06:17-!- mthe [~mthe@82.133.106.153] has quit [Changing host]
20110114 10:06:17-!- mthe [~mthe@unaffiliated/mthe] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 10:11:01-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai]
20110114 10:11:54-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-78-180-180.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 10:11:54-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-78-180-180.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host]
20110114 10:11:54-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 10:13:16-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 10:15:41-!- C27 [~chatzilla@c-98-247-251-224.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]]
20110114 10:24:30-!- martin_ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e03d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 10:25:42-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20110114 10:34:32-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 10:40:07-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 11:01:53-!- martin_ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e03d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
20110114 11:03:22-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 11:16:47-!- DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 11:20:35-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai]
20110114 11:24:14-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 11:32:28-!- rork [~quassel@ip4da9d28f.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 11:34:09-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20110114 11:38:51-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.174] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110114 11:39:38-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.174] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 11:40:19-!- miudyk [~Mateusz@raziel3.net.autocom.pl] has quit [Quit: xD]
20110114 11:45:20-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.174] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110114 11:49:38-!- martin_ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e03d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 12:00:04-!- rork [~quassel@ip4da9d28f.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
20110114 12:00:22-!- rork [~quassel@ip4da9d28f.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 12:15:36-!- Lcawte [lcawte@Wikimedia/Lcawte] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 12:21:31-!- deekay [~dk@wesnoth/developer/dragonking] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 12:39:09-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai]
20110114 12:40:16-!- Lcawte [lcawte@Wikimedia/Lcawte] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 12:48:51-!- martin_ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e03d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
20110114 12:57:07-!- Lcawte [lcawte@Wikimedia/Lcawte] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 13:01:16-!- Lcawte [lcawte@Wikimedia/Lcawte] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 13:50:14-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.174] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 14:21:26-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
20110114 14:22:51-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 14:31:11-!- HosenJack [~FYMLIFYM@ip-62-143-120-102.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 14:36:55-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 14:39:13-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 14:39:37-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@29.138.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 14:41:46-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 14:53:40-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@29.138.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 14:56:15-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 15:00:01-!- artisticdude [9442274a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.148.66.39.74] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 15:07:41-!- HosenJack [~FYMLIFYM@ip-62-143-120-102.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: emoragequit]
20110114 15:10:37-!- rork [~quassel@ip4da9d28f.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 15:11:01-!- Kleptomane21 [~hobbes@S01060019e3d6aaa1.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 15:13:17-!- martin__ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e03d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 15:20:20-!- Crendgrim [~crend@95-88-176-61-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 15:23:14-!- martin__ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e03d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
20110114 15:24:58-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.206.165] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110114 15:24:58-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-78-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 15:25:15-!- Queenie [~teodora@178.218.206.165] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 15:25:57-!- yermandu [~yermandu@unaffiliated/yermandu] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 15:36:12-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 15:37:31< Crendgrim> hmm.. is wesnoth.org really down or do just I have got problems?
20110114 15:37:38< Crendgrim> Nevermind, there it is again...
20110114 15:38:07< Crendgrim> No, it isn't .. it's very, very slow ... the forum at least. Anyone else who encounters that?
20110114 15:39:07< artisticdude> It's fine for me.
20110114 15:39:35< Crendgrim> thanks... maybe one proxy anywhere on the wide internet...
20110114 15:40:56< artisticdude> You'd think it wouldn't be all that hard to find some decent reference material for a Wesnoth running animation.
20110114 15:41:17< Gambit> janebot: http://forums.wesnoth.org
20110114 15:41:22< janebot> Gambit: title: Battle for Wesnoth &bull; Index page
20110114 15:41:37< Gambit> Crendgrim: it looks good from here
20110114 15:41:47< Gambit> Hi artisticdude!
20110114 15:42:02< artisticdude> Hey Gambit.
20110114 15:42:10< artisticdude> Been a while since I've been on IRC.
20110114 15:42:56< Crendgrim> Now the lags are away ... don't know what that have been. Thanks nevertheless
20110114 15:43:46< artisticdude> For some reason, the internet always seems slower on fridays, for me anyway.
20110114 15:43:50< Gambit> Sigh it's so hard to get rid of the dang spiders now though.
20110114 15:44:02< artisticdude> How come?
20110114 15:44:05< Gambit> err ignore that xD
20110114 15:44:10< Gambit> PetePorty: ^
20110114 15:44:22< Gambit> artisticdude: if you must know, they climb walls D:
20110114 15:44:29< PetePorty> ...
20110114 15:44:46< PetePorty> Wrong channel, mate.
20110114 15:44:48< PetePorty> >.<
20110114 15:45:43 * artisticdude is an arachnophobe
20110114 15:46:12< Gambit> PetePorty: I know :(
20110114 15:46:23< PetePorty> lol
20110114 15:48:07< artisticdude> I wonder if The Powers that Be™ have a revision for the loyalist sprites & animations in mind.
20110114 15:48:59< artisticdude> Jet's upgrading the elves, so I'm hoping the loys are next.
20110114 15:49:20< PetePorty> People are upgrading my elvies?
20110114 15:49:21< PetePorty> ;_;
20110114 15:49:46< Gambit> Yeah the Loyalists do look kind of old
20110114 15:50:11< artisticdude> They're old, and the shading techniques are... less than professional, when compared to the new sprites.
20110114 15:50:31< artisticdude> They even use pure black outlines. D:
20110114 15:51:02< artisticdude> PetePorty: They needed it.
20110114 15:52:39< artisticdude> Sigh. I should be cramming for that chemistry test and not griping about the loyalists.
20110114 15:52:56< Gambit> Indeed. I've got to go for school.
20110114 15:52:58< Gambit> See you all.
20110114 15:54:01 * artisticdude follows Gambit to the land of academics.
20110114 15:55:42< PetePorty> Bye mate.
20110114 15:55:47-!- Aethaeryn [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 16:00:22-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 16:12:48-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai]
20110114 16:13:19-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110114 16:13:34-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 16:20:41-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.174] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203074432]]
20110114 16:23:36-!- KingDread [~DreadKnig@79.117.61.43] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 16:24:03-!- DreadKnight [~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110114 16:24:54-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
20110114 16:26:30-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai]
20110114 16:31:51-!- joo [~joo@93-96-66-243.zone4.bethere.co.uk] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 16:31:51-!- joo [~joo@93-96-66-243.zone4.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Changing host]
20110114 16:31:51-!- joo [~joo@unaffiliated/joo] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 16:46:30-!- yermandu [~yermandu@unaffiliated/yermandu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20110114 16:47:31-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 16:50:20-!- yermandu [~yermandu@unaffiliated/yermandu] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 17:04:11-!- Tomsik [~Tomsik@bbz226.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 17:17:33-!- rork [~quassel@ip4da9d28f.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 17:17:59-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-34-191.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: leaving]
20110114 17:20:56-!- foocraft [~dsc@78.101.112.199] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 17:21:17-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-34-191.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 17:21:21-!- amore23 [~chatzilla@99-104-149-74.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 17:21:40-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 17:22:56-!- daglees [~belvedere@unaffiliated/daglees] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 17:23:39-!- dipseydoodle [~mwkich@70.15.235.113.res-cmts.ovr.ptd.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 17:24:20-!- miudyk [Mateusz@pawel2.net.autocom.pl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 17:25:44-!- dipseydoodle [~mwkich@70.15.235.113.res-cmts.ovr.ptd.net] has quit [Client Quit]
20110114 17:41:55-!- phlaem [~a@g231106252.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 17:43:31-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:02:32-!- artisticdude_ [~artisticd@misc-148-66-39-74.pool.starband.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:04:16-!- martin_ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e03d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:07:42-!- SekoIdiootti [~chatzilla@cs145063.pp.htv.fi] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:17:08-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20110114 18:25:03-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:25:56-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:36:06-!- ancestral [~ancestral@97-116-154-155.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go sleeps kthxbai]
20110114 18:37:11-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-78-180-180.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:37:11-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-78-180-180.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host]
20110114 18:37:11-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:38:13-!- crimson_penguin [~ben@wesnoth/developer/crimsonpenguin] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:47:26-!- Feufochmar [~Feufochma@99.82.69-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 18:49:38-!- artisticdude [9442274a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.148.66.39.74] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
20110114 18:49:39-!- artisticdude_ is now known as artisticdude
20110114 18:57:23-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20110114 18:58:28-!- artisticdude [~artisticd@misc-148-66-39-74.pool.starband.net] has quit [Quit: artisticdude]
20110114 19:15:00-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-78-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
20110114 19:19:33-!- rork [~quassel@ip4da9d28f.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 19:20:57-!- rork [~quassel@ip4da9d28f.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 19:24:33-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 19:27:47-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-78-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 19:28:17-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20110114 19:29:44-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
20110114 19:31:12-!- KingDread [~DreadKnig@79.117.61.43] has quit [Quit: #AncientBeast - Free Fantasy MO TBS RPG]
20110114 19:40:31-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 19:45:55-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20110114 19:50:13-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 19:52:25-!- knotwork [~markm@142.177.235.193] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 20:06:44-!- lizard_r [~Rolf@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/lizard] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 20:11:44-!- Mkaysi is now known as OtusBot-PieSpy
20110114 20:11:59-!- OtusBot-PieSpy is now known as Kanttiinipoika
20110114 20:12:13-!- Kanttiinipoika is now known as Mkaysi
20110114 20:33:51-!- dipseydoodle [~mwkich@70.15.235.113.res-cmts.ovr.ptd.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 20:39:27-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 20:44:25-!- dipseydoodle [~mwkich@70.15.235.113.res-cmts.ovr.ptd.net] has left #wesnoth []
20110114 20:50:16-!- martin_ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e03d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20110114 20:52:00-!- martin_ [~martin@dtmd-4db2e03d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 21:06:09-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-34-191.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: leaving]
20110114 21:08:04-!- vcap [~vcap@AReims-551-1-34-191.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 21:08:08-!- DDR_ [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 21:11:53-!- kracker[BDC] [~ID@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 21:18:10-!- rafusy [rav@torvalds.rootnode.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
20110114 21:21:30-!- rafusy [rav@torvalds.rootnode.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 21:25:48-!- phlaem [~a@g231106252.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20110114 21:28:14-!- KamusHadenes [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 21:30:40-!- KamusHadenes [~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 21:36:06-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-143.mycingular.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 21:51:52-!- yermandu [~yermandu@unaffiliated/yermandu] has quit [Quit: twilt]
20110114 21:53:35-!- DDR_ [~chatzilla@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
20110114 21:53:42-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-143.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: Smell ya later!]
20110114 21:54:39-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-78-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
20110114 21:57:36-!- Mussious [~kamil@dfv192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 22:04:19-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20110114 22:10:09-!- kracker[BDC] [~ID@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20110114 22:12:24-!- natasiel [~natasiel@98.143.212.197] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 22:16:46< natasiel> someone can give me insights to add some [candidate_action] within ai's main_loop [stage]?
20110114 22:34:38-!- hagabaka [~hagabaka@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20110114 22:36:08-!- hagabaka [~hagabaka@unaffiliated/hagabaka] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 22:36:21-!- PetePorty [~Pete@pc-78-54-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 22:38:02-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 22:40:17-!- Crendgrim [~crend@95-88-176-61-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20110114 22:45:21-!- Mussious [~kamil@dfv192.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20110114 23:02:14-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-143.mycingular.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 23:11:52-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-171-160-214.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth
20110114 23:25:02-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has quit []
20110114 23:56:47-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-166-137-142-143.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: Smell ya later!]
--- Log closed Sat Jan 15 00:00:22 2011