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20110115 19:39:52< Aethaeryn> w00t... I can now fluently read Python
20110115 19:40:59< shadowmaster> then do us all a favor and rewrite wmllint
20110115 19:41:39< Aethaeryn> If you want me to edit some of the .py scripts, I can give it a try.
20110115 19:41:49< shadowmaster> no, rewrite
20110115 19:41:52< Aethaeryn> I don't want to go rusty, I haven't done anything substantial since my class
20110115 19:42:03< Aethaeryn> hmm
20110115 19:42:10< Aethaeryn> shadowmaster: Is esr no longer maintaining it?
20110115 19:42:29< shadowmaster> unfortunately, he still maintains it
20110115 19:42:47< Aethaeryn> Ah, right, therein lies the problem.
20110115 19:42:55< shadowmaster> that means that we are forever stuck with it until a superior (read: correctly engineered) solution appears
20110115 19:43:00< Aethaeryn> esr most likely knows more Python than I do.
20110115 19:43:19< Aethaeryn> Since I've been coding it for less than a year and he's probably been coding it close to 10.
20110115 19:43:22< shadowmaster> it's not really about the language.
20110115 19:43:29< shadowmaster> you can code in lolcode for all I care
20110115 19:43:38< shadowmaster> as long as the result is of superior quality than that crap
20110115 19:44:21< Aethaeryn> One possible solution would be to maintain a database of WML changes
20110115 19:44:31< Aethaeryn> i.e. separating the code from the list of things wmllint checks for
20110115 19:44:48< Aethaeryn> So you don't need to modify the program to update what it checks for.
20110115 19:53:14< elias> what is the wmllint problem? that it doesn't parse the WML but just does some regexps on it?
20110115 19:55:01< shadowmaster> that. and it doesn't resolve macros. crashes with ease on malformed input instead of falling back as it should. and it's bloated. and it's slow.
20110115 19:55:26< shadowmaster> and it imposes ESR's stubborn view of what WML should look like on authors
20110115 19:56:21< elias> heh
20110115 19:57:08< Tomsik> How many versions back does wmllint work? Fifty?
20110115 19:57:46< Tomsik> Digging out what the changes were would be an epic undertaking, I guess
20110115 19:57:53< Tomsik> Not writing the code
20110115 19:58:39< shadowmaster> only 1.4 onwards.
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20110115 20:30:20< natasiel> what is the purpose of wmllint?
20110115 20:30:42< Aethaeryn> To update old wml files
20110115 20:31:01< Aethaeryn> e.g. if canrecruit=1 changes to canrecruit=yes, the script will fix it automatically.
20110115 20:31:15< shadowmaster> and, arguably, it is intended to help keep current WML files clean and sane.
20110115 20:31:58< natasiel> I see
20110115 20:32:06< shadowmaster> part of a balanced diet with wmlscope and wmlindent
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20110115 20:45:31< natasiel> is there a file to see what terrain means? eg: Gg=Grassland
20110115 20:45:53< shadowmaster> data/core/terrain.cfg
20110115 20:46:30< natasiel> thank you very much
20110115 20:49:23< natasiel> "aliasof" is for grouping tiles?
20110115 20:49:45< shadowmaster> it's for defining movement/defense associations with base tile types
20110115 20:50:26< natasiel> when more than one, it takes the best of the two?
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20110115 20:56:13< natasiel> lots of tiles seems unused by the random map generator
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20110115 21:47:43< Crendgrim> WTF?
20110115 21:47:49< Crendgrim> what has been that?
20110115 21:48:34< shadowmaster> netsplit, of course
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20110115 21:52:05< Crendgrim> I think I have to learn more about IRC... never seen that before...
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20110115 21:57:29< Crendgrim> indeed.
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