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20110125 01:11:36< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: I tried to read your code but I couldn't quite follow how all your lua stuff was called
20110125 01:13:34< Elvish_Pillager> Aethaeryn: which code?
20110125 01:15:55< Elvish_Pillager> Aethaeryn: if you need help with anything in particular, ask now before I go and spend 45 minutes inking another page
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20110125 02:09:40< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: Sorry, I went afk because of cats, sat down on a comfortable recliner, and for some reason didn't return until more than 45 minutes later
20110125 02:10:05< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: I was talking about your EoHS
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20110125 02:13:49< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: As in, how did you get your Lua code to be read other than calling it in an [event] and then calling that [event] in a macro?
20110125 02:14:07< Aethaeryn> I figure there's an [event] somewhere that calls all Lua in all .cfgs or something?
20110125 02:14:57< Elvish_Pillager> Aethaeryn: yes
20110125 02:15:06< Elvish_Pillager> one moment, I don't remember the exact details
20110125 02:16:16< Elvish_Pillager> yeah, _main.cfg includes preload_magic_system.cfg in a preload event, and preload_magic_system.cfg includes everything in the lua_function_definitions subdir
20110125 02:16:38< Elvish_Pillager> and then the events in _main.cfg call the init functions, which do everything else
20110125 02:17:59< Elvish_Pillager> ping me again if you respond
20110125 02:19:15< Aethaeryn> i'm here
20110125 02:20:31< Aethaeryn>       helper = wesnoth.require("lua/helper.lua")
20110125 02:20:36< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: ^ what does that do?
20110125 02:20:49< Elvish_Pillager> oh
20110125 02:20:59< Elvish_Pillager> lua/helper.lua is a core file
20110125 02:21:07< Elvish_Pillager> so that line assigns its output to the global variable "helper"
20110125 02:21:23< Elvish_Pillager> its output is a table containing a bunch of functions, such as "get_child"
20110125 02:21:39< Elvish_Pillager> which enables me to use those functions as, e.g. helper.get_child(blah blah) elsewhere.
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20110125 02:25:39< Aethaeryn> huh?
20110125 02:25:50< Elvish_Pillager> ...and there was me thinking I had over-explained it
20110125 02:26:48< Aethaeryn> oh, I see what they did there
20110125 02:37:00< Aethaeryn> ooooh
20110125 02:37:03< Aethaeryn> my favorite thing about Lua
20110125 02:37:14< Aethaeryn> when I mess up in Wesnoth I get an error popup message box I have to hit okay on five times
20110125 02:37:18< Aethaeryn> on Lua I just get a chat message
20110125 02:37:29< Aethaeryn> *in Wesnoth Markup Language
20110125 02:57:35< Elvish_Pillager> yeah!
20110125 02:57:45< Elvish_Pillager> and if you're really clever you can check it for syntax without starting Wesnoth!
20110125 02:57:48< Elvish_Pillager> Aethaeryn
20110125 02:58:23< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: the only syntax errors I get are WML tables read as metatables
20110125 02:58:33< Aethaeryn> they really ought to use two different symbols for the different roles of { :P
20110125 02:58:36< Elvish_Pillager> I mean Lua syntax errors
20110125 02:58:40< Elvish_Pillager> like mismatched brackets
20110125 02:58:53< Aethaeryn> oh, emacs lua-mode does that automatically.
20110125 02:58:58< Elvish_Pillager> uh... what different roles of {?
20110125 02:59:10< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: well, the reason you sometimes get {{
20110125 02:59:25< Aethaeryn> one declares a tag and one shows tag contents
20110125 02:59:31< Aethaeryn> so if the tag contents is only a tag, you get {{
20110125 02:59:41< Elvish_Pillager> well, of course
20110125 02:59:47< Aethaeryn> right, this is somewhat confusing
20110125 02:59:56< Elvish_Pillager> you could always right functions to make it look different
20110125 03:00:16< Aethaeryn> you mean, declare functions for things like [message]
20110125 03:00:18< Elvish_Pillager> like you could have a function wml_tag(tag_name, contents)
20110125 03:00:34< Aethaeryn> that stuff comes last imo
20110125 03:00:39< Elvish_Pillager> what stuff?
20110125 03:06:06< Aethaeryn> the readability polish stuff
20110125 03:06:24< Aethaeryn> first I get it running then I see how I could have made it more elegant
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20110125 03:12:17< Elvish_Pillager> Aethaeryn: but for the function I suggested, it comes first or not at all
20110125 03:12:34< Elvish_Pillager> It's not a readability-polish thing, it's a making-sure-you-get-the-syntax-right thing
20110125 03:16:53< Aethaeryn> so wml_tag("foo", wml_tag("bar", wml_tag("foobar", "Hello world!")))
20110125 03:17:00< Aethaeryn> Not sure if that's a big improvement.
20110125 03:17:01< Elvish_Pillager> No.
20110125 03:17:17< Elvish_Pillager> wml_tag("foo", { wml_tag("bar", { etc}) })
20110125 03:17:39< Aethaeryn> It's not the first tag that's bad
20110125 03:17:41< Aethaeryn> it's the third :P
20110125 03:17:50< Elvish_Pillager> huh?
20110125 03:17:54< Aethaeryn> this is why I hate conditionals/filters in WML
20110125 03:18:10< Aethaeryn> the [filter_this_thing][and][not][or]stuff
20110125 03:18:18< Aethaeryn> the [filter_this_thing][and][not][or][variable]
20110125 03:18:26< Aethaeryn> Yes, you could conceivably go that deep in menu items
20110125 03:18:59< Elvish_Pillager> yeah
20110125 03:19:09< Elvish_Pillager> but in Lua, you can abstract it out so that it's not all stacked up in one place
20110125 03:19:15< Aethaeryn> the [filter_this_thing][easy_filter][/easy_filter][and][not][variable][/variable][or][variable][/variable][/or][/not][/and][/filter_this_thing]
20110125 03:19:19< Aethaeryn> That's why I hate WML.
20110125 03:20:04< Aethaeryn> well, in that case maybe the [and] is unnecessary but I've seen cases where it is
20110125 03:20:11< Aethaeryn> Bad example if you overanalyze it
20110125 03:20:48< Aethaeryn> The only thing that can *really* be radically simplified in lua is also the only thing that's 100% impossible :P
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20110125 03:24:32< Elvish_Pillager> ...
20110125 03:24:46< Elvish_Pillager> hey Aethaeryn, quit saying completely false things ;p
20110125 03:25:39< Elvish_Pillager> unless you enjoyed writing algorithms in WML?
20110125 03:26:10< un214> hey its turing complete man
20110125 03:26:51< Elvish_Pillager> only in theory
20110125 03:27:18< un214> would you like to see turing machine in WML?
20110125 03:27:21< Elvish_Pillager> although I guess if your computer had unlimited memory and processor power...
20110125 03:27:45< Elvish_Pillager> ...then you'd have a physically impossible computer, so congrats!
20110125 03:28:16< un214> given certain assumptions on the laws of physics which may or may not be true a turing machine might be buildable
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20110125 03:38:12< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: Why are you limited to one universe in this hypothetical?
20110125 03:38:27< Elvish_Pillager> Aethaeryn: eh?
20110125 03:39:30< Aethaeryn> Assuming an infinite amount of possible universes, and assuming the possibility that there may exist the ability to compute parallel between universes in some possible universes...
20110125 03:39:39< Aethaeryn> Then you basically have as much hypothetical computing power as you want.
20110125 03:40:15< Elvish_Pillager> oh, okay
20110125 03:40:22< Elvish_Pillager> but I already knew that
20110125 03:40:32< Elvish_Pillager> I said it wasn't physically possible, I didn't say it wasn't hypothetically possible
20110125 03:46:06< Aethaeryn> Well, it's hypothetically physically possible.
20110125 03:46:38< Aethaeryn> Time for some hypothetical cloud computing...
20110125 03:46:51< Aethaeryn> Forget off-site servers... Off-universe servers are far more cloud-y
20110125 03:47:20< Aethaeryn> Time to publish a metaphysics PhD thesis ;-)
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20110125 03:50:49< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: actually, I have a better hypothetical universe
20110125 03:51:02< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: one in which WML doesn't suck at complex programming tasks :o
20110125 03:51:09< VurtualRuler98> So, C?
20110125 03:52:23< Aethaeryn> Wow, C is a scripting language in that universe? :o
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20110125 04:59:32< Flechmen> He folks
20110125 05:01:06< Flechmen> Anyone familar with the [user_handle] configuration?
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20110125 09:14:54< Soliton> Flechmen: did you mean [user_handler]?
20110125 09:15:11< Flechmen> yea
20110125 09:15:35< Soliton> what about it?
20110125 09:15:47< Flechmen> I have a phpBB forum for users to register on, set up the whole [user_handler] conf, and it does nothing
20110125 09:16:15< Flechmen> I posted a thread about it http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32903
20110125 09:19:07< Soliton> did you build with "forum_user_handler = True"?
20110125 09:19:52< Flechmen> Yep
20110125 09:24:44< Flechmen> So.. any ideas?
20110125 09:24:55< Flechmen> Do I need to use phpBB2?
20110125 09:28:07< Flechmen> 'cause I set it up with phpBB 3
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20110125 09:28:21< Soliton> nope. we use phpbb3.
20110125 09:28:37< Flechmen> Is there anything wrong in my config there?
20110125 09:28:38< Soliton> are you sure your users table is not phpbb3_users then?
20110125 09:29:32< Flechmen> Nope, its just phpbb_users
20110125 09:29:38 * Flechmen just checked in phpMyAdmin
20110125 09:30:53< Flechmen> hmm. Does wesnothd not accept non-alphanumaric passwords in the DB pass? My password has some special characters in it
20110125 09:31:56< Soliton> could very well be.
20110125 09:33:29< Soliton> we also have a bug with WML internal handling of strings looking like numbers so maybe avoid starting with a digit.
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20110125 09:35:47< Flechmen> Ok, set it to a compleatly alphabetic password on all fronts, and still nothing
20110125 09:37:44< Flechmen> Mm, I think I found my problem
20110125 09:37:46< Flechmen> scons forum_user_handle=true prefix=$HOME/wesnoth1.8 install-wesnothd
20110125 09:37:52< Flechmen> that was in my bash history 
20110125 09:38:22< Flechmen> Its supposed to be forum_user_handler?
20110125 09:42:12< Flechmen> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23786&p=335876&hilit=user_handler#p335876 Baufo was saying it was "forum_user_handle"
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20110125 09:46:23< Flechmen> I'll try it with "forum_user_handler"
20110125 09:46:26< Soliton> scons -h tells you what options are available.
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20110125 09:47:03< Flechmen> No way
20110125 09:47:33< Flechmen> Ok, so it is forum_user_handler
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20110125 10:01:31< Flechmen> Heh, getting an access denied from mysql now..
20110125 10:01:58< Flechmen> there we go
20110125 10:03:03< Flechmen> So, how could I get my server listed on your list of unofficial servers?
20110125 10:05:05< Soliton> by editing the wiki page.
20110125 10:05:16< Flechmen> Oh
20110125 10:05:32< Flechmen> I wasn't sure if there was any kind of approval process
20110125 10:06:47< Soliton> don't mess stuff up and there won't need to be. ;-)
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20110125 22:56:47< Arkus> hi
20110125 22:57:01< flying-PCP> hi
20110125 22:59:05< flying-PCP> hey i'm new to this game and i'm having trouble with the time limit in the campaign missions where you have to kill the enemy leader
20110125 23:00:23< flying-PCP> seems like the importance of ToD creates a really slow tug-of-war situation that makes it really hard to push to the enemy base in a reasonable number of turns
20110125 23:03:03< Soliton> the importance of ToD creates the exact opposite unless the opposing sides are of equal alignment.
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20110125 23:09:55< flying-PCP> how so? i mean it's not like you're going to win in one day/night cycle
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20110125 23:11:05< flying-PCP> seems like you have to retreat to favorable terrain and/or villages to keep from getting ruined at night against northerners
20110125 23:12:18< Soliton> sure, how is that a tug-of-war situation?
20110125 23:20:57< flying-PCP> well that might be the wrong word, i just mean you have to retreat too often
20110125 23:22:09< flying-PCP> part of it is definitely that i've been positioning my archers and fighters badly and getting the former picked off
20110125 23:23:23< flying-PCP> the dumb thing is it was super easy to win by just spamming scouts, but i get the feeling that would bite me in the ass later when i don't have any good level 2 units to recall
20110125 23:23:41< Soliton> the less you get beaten up at your bad ToD the more you can advance at your favourable ToD.
20110125 23:25:18< Soliton> you'd likely be slower overall if there was no ToD cycle at all since the AI isn't really good at retreat.
20110125 23:29:42< flying-PCP> i guess i just find it hard to not end my turn with archers exposed
20110125 23:29:55< flying-PCP> when i'm attacking
20110125 23:31:02< flying-PCP> might need to make more mages to kill whelps faster
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