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20110126 02:41:12< Aethaeryn> I'll fix that when I get to spawn_units.cfg which has options with more than 2 arguments 20110126 02:41:29< Elvish_Pillager> ...arguments? 20110126 02:41:43< Aethaeryn> I'll show you an example 20110126 02:42:10< Elvish_Pillager> I just had a good idea for how to handle options in my code 20110126 02:42:24< Elvish_Pillager> however, I'm working on a different project right now and it'll probably take me all night :) 20110126 02:42:31< Aethaeryn> I'll take the object and one of the functions that uses it and put it on pastebin 20110126 02:42:47< Aethaeryn> It has allowed me to remove about half a dozen superfluous functions 20110126 02:42:48< Aethaeryn> http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/bgf6is4u 20110126 02:43:02< Aethaeryn> (In just one file.) 20110126 02:43:39< Aethaeryn> It replaces the "message" and all of its subitems, but doesn't replace {"message", {}}, just "message", {} 20110126 02:43:44< Aethaeryn> otherwise you can't use wesnoth.fire() 20110126 02:44:09< Aethaeryn> It also sets reasonable defaults (e.g. wesnoth-icon.png and narrator) 20110126 02:44:27< Aethaeryn> I don't like repeated lines in code :P 20110126 02:44:39< Elvish_Pillager> I don't understand your code 20110126 02:44:56< Aethaeryn> oh, that's how you do objects in Lua 20110126 02:45:05< Aethaeryn> yes, just about everything except functions is implemented via tables 20110126 02:45:24< Elvish_Pillager> yeah, yeah, everything is either a string or a table 20110126 02:45:39< Aethaeryn> It creates an object called DungeonOpt with the non-functions as the defaults 20110126 02:45:49< Aethaeryn> The function new is used to copy that table 20110126 02:46:00< Elvish_Pillager> but I didn't mean the object syntax 20110126 02:46:01< Aethaeryn> Since objects in Lua are really just copied tables with some parameters changed on creation 20110126 02:46:42< Elvish_Pillager> I'm definitely not going to borrow your code... 20110126 02:46:44< Elvish_Pillager> I'll tell you my idea 20110126 02:46:46< Aethaeryn> oh, a lot of that is a bit hackish 20110126 02:47:01< Aethaeryn> Since it took me a few hours to avoid all sorts of issues 20110126 02:47:23< Elvish_Pillager> Basically I will write a function give_options(table) that you call instead of wesnoth.fire("message", table) 20110126 02:47:43< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: imo, it'd just be easier to have native support for [set_menu_item] 20110126 02:47:44< Elvish_Pillager> and in your table, every option can contain, instead of a "command" tag, a "lua_command = (function)" 20110126 02:48:02< Elvish_Pillager> wait, you're doing this for menu items, not for message options? 20110126 02:48:02< Aethaeryn> If you can code Lua well, you can probably commit a few patches for Wesnoth's lua interpreter 20110126 02:48:12< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: This is for message options 20110126 02:48:12< Elvish_Pillager> I thought we were talking about message options 20110126 02:48:20< Aethaeryn> But proper support for [set_menu_item] would include message options 20110126 02:48:31< Elvish_Pillager> ...set_menu_item has nothing to do with message options, does it? 20110126 02:48:37< Aethaeryn> it would need to include support for message options, message text input, and various filters 20110126 02:48:44< Aethaeryn> Since they're often used in conjunction 20110126 02:49:07< Elvish_Pillager> let's have this conversation some other time 20110126 02:49:11< Aethaeryn> k 20110126 02:49:47< Aethaeryn> Elvish_Pillager: you did give me a good idea though 20110126 02:49:58< Aethaeryn> In addition to options:show I can have an options:fire that removes the need to wesnoth.fire() 20110126 02:52:57-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 02:57:32-!- Ketsueki [~Ketsueki@76.69.183.55] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 02:57:42-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has quit [Client Quit] 20110126 03:00:56-!- Ketsueki [~Ketsueki@76.69.183.55] has quit [] 20110126 03:24:17-!- kracker[BDC] [~ID@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20110126 09:36:53-!- Topic set by Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] [Mon Jan 17 20:17:36 2011] 20110126 09:36:53[Users #wesnoth] 20110126 09:36:53[ ABCD ] [ fangism-hongry] [ KingDread ] [ shadowmaster ] 20110126 09:36:53[ amore23 ] [ fendrin ] [ knotwork ] [ shikadibot ] 20110126 09:36:53[ apoi ] [ fkhodkov ] [ koan ] [ Smar ] 20110126 09:36:53[ Appleman1234 ] [ fstltna ] [ law_ ] [ Softly_ ] 20110126 09:36:53[ chris| ] [ G-Lo ] [ Lcawte|Away ] [ spazm ] 20110126 09:36:53[ Cookiee ] [ GGLucas ] [ lobby ] [ Tibfib ] 20110126 09:36:53[ crimson_penguin] [ hagabaka ] [ MadMerlin ] [ vert2_ ] 20110126 09:36:53[ Cyber_Rock ] [ happygrue_ ] [ matthiaskrgr_] [ Vorpal ] 20110126 09:36:53[ DDR ] [ Hellrider_ ] [ Mkaysi ] [ vultraz ] 20110126 09:36:53[ drry ] [ Ivanovic ] [ namad7 ] [ VurtualRuler98] 20110126 09:36:53[ elias ] [ iwaim ] [ noy ] [ wesbot ] 20110126 09:36:53[ Epsilon012 ] [ jayyell ] [ Queenie ] [ Xjs|moonshine ] 20110126 09:36:53[ erl ] [ KamusHadenes ] [ rafusy ] [ zookeeper ] 20110126 09:36:53[ ettin ] [ Kenpachi ] [ Rhonda ] 20110126 09:36:53-!- Irssi: #wesnoth: Total of 55 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 55 normal] 20110126 09:36:53!calvino.freenode.net [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 20110126 09:36:53-!- Home page for #wesnoth: http://www.wesnoth.org 20110126 09:36:58-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 09:37:00-!- Channel #wesnoth created Sun Nov 26 07:42:43 2006 20110126 09:37:52-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.174] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20110126 09:38:11-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth was synced in 86 secs 20110126 09:40:02-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20110126 09:56:29-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@169.222.11.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20110126 10:00:33-!- Mike1 [563b6423@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.59.100.35] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 10:00:38< Mike1> hi folks! 20110126 10:07:50< Mike1> Wesnoth works! \o/ 20110126 10:08:02< Mike1> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=476311#p476311 the patch really fixes it :) 20110126 10:10:35< Rhonda> Mike1: Is there a bugreport on bugs.wesnoth.org about this issue? If not, can you open one? If there is, can you add the hint to it? 20110126 10:11:39< Mike1> Rhonda: I don’t think there is and I got no account to open one 20110126 10:12:13< Mike1> Crendgrim said that the Wesnoth-Folks read the forums and will fix it ;) 20110126 10:15:54< Rhonda> Mike1: It doesn't require an account: https://gna.org/bugs/?func=additem&group=wesnoth 20110126 10:16:01< VurtualRuler98> Sounds a bit hacky. 20110126 10:17:21< Mike1> VurtualRuler98: yeah, sounds like a workaround for a SDL-bug 20110126 10:17:49< VurtualRuler98> Really whenever something does "creates an extra" or "makes an extra" or "uses an extra", I am cautious. 20110126 10:19:49-!- Mike1_ [563b6423@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.59.100.35] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 10:22:11-!- Mike1 [563b6423@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.59.100.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20110126 10:23:31-!- Mike1 [563b6423@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.59.100.35] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 10:23:44< Mike1> damn WiFi at school -.- 20110126 10:24:36-!- Mike1_ [563b6423@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.59.100.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20110126 10:36:41< Ivanovic> moin 20110126 10:38:12-!- Soul_keeper [1000@wsip-70-166-30-4.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 10:38:43< Soul_keeper> i'm currently in a game that won't let me attack, move, or endturn 20110126 10:39:10< Soul_keeper> person I was playing with apparently couldn't see me type ... used some profanity on me thinking I was a quitter 20110126 10:42:01< Soul_keeper> I take it the server is down ? 20110126 10:48:23-!- rork [~quassel@ip4da9d28f.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 10:48:37< Soul_keeper> odd 20110126 10:51:31< Soul_keeper> 21 packets transmitted, 10 received, 52% packet loss, time 20025ms guess it could be me ... 20110126 10:52:05-!- KingDread [~DreadKnig@79.117.32.130] has quit [Quit: #AncientBeast - Free Fantasy MO TBS RPG] 20110126 10:57:21-!- Nissarin [~nissarin@91.202.192.6] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 11:09:47< Mike1> so, what to do about my bug? 20110126 11:10:02< Mike1> should I at least report it? 20110126 11:10:05< Mike1> yes I think 20110126 11:16:50< Mike1> https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?17578 20110126 11:31:59-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.174] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 11:35:58-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 11:35:59-!- jayyell [~jayy@222.124.158.86] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20110126 11:50:51< Soliton> Mike1: look two rows down in the bug report list... 20110126 11:56:26-!- Mike1 [563b6423@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.59.100.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20110126 11:58:50-!- Mike1 [563b6423@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.59.100.35] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 11:58:56< Mike1> Soliton: damn -.- 20110126 12:00:48< Mike1> I’ve looked for a bugreport two months ago but didn’t look again today -.- 20110126 12:01:34< Soliton> if someone takes the time to post a patch he probably knows to not only post it in some forum thread. ;-) 20110126 12:01:54< Soliton> he could have mentionied it in his post though. 20110126 12:08:02-!- Mike1 [563b6423@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.59.100.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20110126 12:12:09-!- miudyk [~Mateusz@raziel3.net.autocom.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 12:24:32-!- DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20110126 12:38:52-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-144-79.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 12:39:14-!- MeccaGod [~majs@h14n4fls31o279.telia.com] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 12:52:05-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20110126 12:52:16-!- joo [~joo@93-96-66-243.zone4.bethere.co.uk] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 12:52:16-!- joo [~joo@93-96-66-243.zone4.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Changing host] 20110126 12:52:16-!- joo [~joo@unaffiliated/joo] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 12:54:53-!- joo [~joo@unaffiliated/joo] has quit [Client Quit] 20110126 13:05:58-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-164.foss.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 13:13:50-!- vjoe [~vjoe@a94-132-113-51.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 13:55:02-!- ozean [~ozean@139.80-202-85.nextgentel.com] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 13:56:34< ozean> hi, I'm new on this channel - the 1.9.4 MP server is down (is this a proper place to report this? I also did so on the forums...) 20110126 13:58:04-!- Gambit [~Gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 14:00:07-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@p5DF703A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 14:00:07-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@p5DF703A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 20110126 14:00:07-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 14:00:10-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 14:00:21-!- Cyber_Rock [~Ankit@unaffiliated/cyber-rock/x-7112426] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20110126 14:02:48-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-144-79.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20110126 14:08:41< ozean> I get a could not connect to host error both from my machine in Norway and a friend in Germany cannot login either... 20110126 14:09:46-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-144-79.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 14:09:49 * Soliton takes a look. 20110126 14:11:17< VurtualRuler98> Sometimes, having wesnoth installed makes me philosophical about what makes a game fun. 20110126 14:11:43< VurtualRuler98> Then I realize I'm a massive nerd and most people don't take glee in translating confusing tags and functions to properly simulate aramid fibers in a fantasy game. 20110126 14:12:56< Soliton> ozean: will be back up in a bit. 20110126 14:13:16< VurtualRuler98> I genuinely wonder how complex I could get wesnoth to get though, on a simulation level. 20110126 14:13:56< ozean> Soliton: great - thanks! 20110126 14:14:02-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-4-144-79.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20110126 14:16:40-!- brandFU [~brandFU@p5087F424.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 14:49:13-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth 20110126 14:51:47-!- happygrue_ is now known as happygrue 20110126 14:59:07-!- HosenJack 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