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20110205 06:10:29< ancestral> My pet peeve is add-on related files outside their own add-on folder. For example, myscenario.cfg sitting outside its myscenario.cfg. Annoying clutter!
20110205 06:10:46< ancestral> *outside its "myscenario" folder
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20110205 08:02:22< boucman> hey all
20110205 08:02:53< Espreon> Hello.
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20110205 08:07:38< grzybacz> hi ;-))
20110205 08:07:43< grzybacz> hey boucman !
20110205 08:07:58< boucman> :P
20110205 08:10:56 * Espreon rolls his eyes
20110205 08:11:27< shadowmaster> hi there
20110205 08:14:06< grzybacz> why hello there!
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20110205 09:59:57< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> greetings from brussels!
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20110205 10:30:05< Crab_|FOSDEM> some preparation for testing of openmp-enabled movement map calculation - http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/ygeFLjz0
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20110205 11:16:04< CIA-89> ai0867 * r48404 /branches/fendrin_pathfind/ (2855 files in 266 dirs): Merge trunk up to r48403
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20110205 11:27:33< Crab_|FOSDEM> some preparation for testing of openmp-enabled movement map calculation, part 2 (compiles)  - http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/R97MQzk7
20110205 11:33:23< boucman> noy: around ?
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20110205 11:41:09< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> wesbot: seen noy
20110205 11:41:10< wesbot> Ivanovic|FOSDEM: Queried user last spoke 5d 15h ago.  noy is currently here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev.
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20110205 11:46:34< noy> boucman: yeah
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20110205 11:52:06< thespaceinvader> noy: what is the state of cfgs for Khalifate?
20110205 11:52:15< noy> half done
20110205 11:52:31< noy> I left it in the hands of Wintermute but its languished 
20110205 11:52:39< thespaceinvader> ok
20110205 11:52:54< noy> is boucman around?
20110205 11:53:13< thespaceinvader> general consensus here at FOSDEM is of no objections to mainlining the MP faction over the summer in parallel with GSOC
20110205 11:53:20< thespaceinvader> what is your opinion?
20110205 11:53:25< boucman> i am, we have stuff to discuss, but is it ok if we can wait a little ?
20110205 11:53:37< noy> should be fine
20110205 11:53:47< thespaceinvader> we'll follow up once we've finished discussion of the licensing issues
20110205 11:53:48< noy> its just organizing the people
20110205 11:53:58< thespaceinvader> yeah
20110205 11:57:28< grzywacz> I think there's a nice agreement here for the push. :)
20110205 11:58:20< thespaceinvader> yep
20110205 11:58:32< thespaceinvader> art-wise, it's basically ready to go, sans animations
20110205 11:58:47< thespaceinvader> except the falcons, which shouldn't be a huge difficulty to finish off
20110205 12:00:32< noy> Well I didn't think there was any disagreement over it
20110205 12:00:47< noy> its just not easy to get everything together
20110205 12:01:05< noy> and I don;t think its going to make it any easier to be honest.
20110205 12:07:02< grzywacz> I think there's an agreement to put it as it is, given that release is planned for Christmas, and let it mature for the next 10 months.
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20110205 12:08:52< noy> uh, okay
20110205 12:12:15< zookeeper> i guess i'll again voice my disagreement with mainlining khalifate just to correct the apparently common misconception that no one objects to it.
20110205 12:14:19< thespaceinvader> zookeeper: what is your concern about it?
20110205 12:16:01< zookeeper> thespaceinvader, the same as always: they're from the real world.
20110205 12:16:15< noy> Okay, I guess we can ignore that then. 
20110205 12:17:12< boucman|FOSDEM> zookeeper: what in your eye is the difference with loyalists ?
20110205 12:17:13< thespaceinvader> zookeeper: i can see the issue, personally, but I don't see that they're any more from the real world than the wesnothians are
20110205 12:17:38< thespaceinvader> they're basically late medieva/rennaissancel europeans, through and through
20110205 12:18:22< thespaceinvader> most of the factions are clearly fantasy in nature, but the principal one is basically european
20110205 12:18:35< noy> We've had this discussion before
20110205 12:18:44< zookeeper> boucman|FOSDEM, the fact that "medieval fantasy humans" are not the same as medieval european, and they use english names.
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20110205 12:19:19< boucman|FOSDEM> zookeeper: ok, we might discuss that more later, then
20110205 12:19:52< thespaceinvader> yep, i think that would be wise
20110205 12:24:21< noy> Actually I don't, We've gone over this numerous times, Sirp also agrees on this. Part of the focus of this faction was to bring in an Arabic influence into the game, portraying them in a more realistic light. 
20110205 12:25:32< deekay> Let's think about it as "medieval fantasy arabians" ;p
20110205 12:27:46< Sirp> zookeeper: so you basically want the kalifa to have more fantasy elements?
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20110205 12:47:16< grzywacz> zookeeper: why is being "from the real world" a problem? Because it breaks the immersion, or because someone can be offended, or?
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20110205 13:04:45< Crab_|FOSDEM> ai benchmark script, adapted to write results to file (runnable from wesnoth directory after changing the path to wesnoth executable file in .cfg ):   ai_test.cfg  http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/Aam4A4H6        ai_test.py   http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/HnzQ1TnX
20110205 13:06:06< zookeeper> Sirp, not necessarily; what i'd want is them to at the very least have english names. like every other unit in the game. to me the faction as it is is about as sensible as an ancient japanese faction with units having japanese names.
20110205 13:08:15< elias> like ninja, samurai, ...?
20110205 13:08:44< zookeeper> ninja and samurai are proper english words
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20110205 13:12:41< elias> i thought they are japanese. but yeah, i see what you mean
20110205 13:13:07< zookeeper> also the very name of the faction is khalifate == caliphate, which AFAICT specifically refers to "the first system of government established in Islam". to me that's like putting a "holy roman empire" in wesnoth.
20110205 13:14:13< zookeeper> i don't have a huge problem with the units being closely modelled after real-world armies, but when that _also_
20110205 13:14:15< zookeeper> argh
20110205 13:14:36< thespaceinvader> I can see the point.
20110205 13:14:39< zookeeper> but when that's _also_ the source of the name of the faction and the names of the units, then that i do actually have a problem with
20110205 13:14:57< thespaceinvader> The thing that concerns me is that we then have yet another faction with virtually identical names
20110205 13:15:14< thespaceinvader> we've exhausted all the synonyms of fighter, archer, warrior, general, leader etc now
20110205 13:15:22< boucman|FOSDEM> hehe
20110205 13:15:53< thespaceinvader> and to be honest, using things like field marshal, general, lieutenant, sergeant is just as real-world
20110205 13:15:58< thespaceinvader> it's just in english, not arabic
20110205 13:16:03< thespaceinvader> druid
20110205 13:16:05< zookeeper> grzywacz, and no, i don't worry about anyone being offended ;)
20110205 13:16:26< thespaceinvader> we use a lot of names that directly describe things from the real world in wesnoth
20110205 13:17:33< Gambit> AI|FOSDEM: See #wesnoth-dev logs from yesterday regarding that manual mispelling.
20110205 13:19:43< zookeeper> thespaceinvader, yes, but those are at least all in the same language
20110205 13:22:02< zookeeper> i consider it immensely ackward to use non-english words in place of english words in the source text (which is in english) just because of variety
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20110205 13:22:44< zookeeper> i mean, that's not really any different than using swedish for elvish unit names; you'd be mixing two languages
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20110205 13:24:21< zookeeper> (also of course you have the issue of the names of the units not providing the player with any information unless they know arabic; "elvish archer" might be dull but it's pretty obvious what sort of a unit it is)
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20110205 13:26:27< zookeeper> and yes, i know we've had this exact same discussion several times before, but what choice do i have to not repeat it if i hear people say that there's no disagreement? :x
20110205 13:27:14 * zookeeper goes afk for a while longer ->
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20110205 13:27:59< thespaceinvader> i never said there was no disagreement, I just said there was consensus here at FOSDEM ;)
20110205 13:28:33< Gambit> Ahah.
20110205 13:33:17< thespaceinvader> AHA!
20110205 13:33:49< thespaceinvader> all the above being said: I'm not so attached to the current naming scheme as to rule out changes
20110205 13:34:02< thespaceinvader> but I couldn't speak for anyone else
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20110205 14:16:59< grzywacz> zookeeper: what you say makes perfect sense, I agree that the name should be changed to something more generic, along with adding descriptive (English) names to the units
20110205 14:17:57< grzywacz> I think the Arabic names could still be used in unit *description* to add more flavour. 
20110205 14:23:12< CIA-89> silene * r48405 /trunk/src/scripting/lua.cpp: Marked [generator] as a supported tag. (Fix for bug #17651.)
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20110205 14:26:49< CIA-89> silene * r48406 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/07_Elves_Last_Stand.cfg: Fixed broken scenario ids. (Fix for bug #17640.)
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20110205 14:29:28< CIA-89> silene * r48407 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/14_Human_Alliance.cfg: Fixed Kalenz' starting position. (Fix for bug #17625, patch #2458 by Hethrir.)
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20110205 14:48:17< CIA-89> silene * r48409 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/09_Bounty_Hunters.cfg: 
20110205 14:48:17< CIA-89> Fixed broken enumeration of lvl3 units. (Fix for bug #17626.)
20110205 14:48:17< CIA-89> Note that the whole thing was already untranslatable, so this commit doesn't make it worse.
20110205 14:53:50< CIA-89> silene * r48410 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/utils/low-macros.cfg: Removed unknown tag. (Fix for bug #17624.)
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20110205 14:58:44< CIA-89> silene * r48411 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/09_Bounty_Hunters.cfg: Fixed Landar's starting position. (Fix for bug #17602.)
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20110205 15:16:52< AI|FOSDEM> Crab_|FOSDEM: ai0867.net/hiden/fendrin_benchmark.tar.bz2
20110205 15:17:25< Crab_|FOSDEM> thanks
20110205 15:27:26< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> AI|FOSDEM: so how went the tests? what are the results of the two benchmarks?
20110205 15:27:37< vultraz> i have an idea for a new terrain: cliffs that can become waterfalls and lavafalls when the respective terrain is applied on top
20110205 15:28:06< grzywacz> vultraz: great, go ahead and draw it!
20110205 15:30:13< Crab_|FOSDEM> Ivanovic: fendrin_pathfind - avg 19.32 sec per game;       trunk - avg 18.78 sec per game;   fendrin_pathfind is 3% slower. those are preliminary results (more runs are needed to be confident).
20110205 15:33:42< Crab_|FOSDEM> segfault (reproducible) http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/7z0WRMvz
20110205 15:44:48< AI|FOSDEM> on tinygui on linux running on the HTC droid & nokia N900, the forests aren't recognizable. Possibly the overlays don't function
20110205 15:45:22< mordante|FOSDEM> AI|FOSDEM, yeah there is a tiny-gui issue with it (again)
20110205 15:47:27< Crab_|FOSDEM> (about the segfault) ok, I'm asking it to read from file which doesn't exist.. still, funny things are : 1) it somehow doesn't crash on linux 2) in http://wesnoth.pastebin.com/dQuv8yx5  ' if (LIKELY(in_.good())) { ' line doesn't prevent it from from going into a highlighted line and crashing.
20110205 15:47:36< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> AI|FOSDEM: wrong
20110205 15:47:51< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> the n900 uses smallgui (like the pandora it has a 800x480 screen)
20110205 15:48:02< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> just tinygui with scaling graphics is broken
20110205 15:48:47< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> personally i'd say: new topic: should we completely drop tinygui support?
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20110205 15:50:48< AI|FOSDEM> is it still used by anyone?
20110205 15:53:09< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> AI|FOSDEM: no idea
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20110205 16:15:41< CIA-89> dragonking * r48412 /trunk/src/replay_controller.cpp: Fix bug: update TOD display when watching replay in side-by-side mode
20110205 16:18:23< Sirp|FOSDEM> deekay made a checkin. :)
20110205 16:18:33< grzywacz> omg!
20110205 16:18:39< deekay> ;p
20110205 16:18:46< deekay> hopefully it works ;p :D
20110205 16:19:46< Sirp|FOSDEM> a break from beating the snot out of random poor innocent unsuspecting thing in multiplayer? :)
20110205 16:20:11< deekay> Yea, for now at least. ;p
20110205 16:21:20< Gambit> Ivanovic|FOSDEM, AI|FOSDEM: Yes it is.
20110205 16:21:41< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> Gambit: where exactly?
20110205 16:21:41< Gambit> We still occasionally get forumers in tech support with crazy resolutions who it gets recommended to.
20110205 16:21:43< Rose> but then they still died afterwrads
20110205 16:22:33< Gambit> Oh I'm sorry that's smallgui.
20110205 16:24:05< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> Gambit: exactly
20110205 16:24:13< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> 800x480 is used (and maintained)
20110205 16:24:27< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> but anything below is not maintianed, otherwise it would not be as broken as it is
20110205 16:24:36< Gambit> Okay the last hit for tinygui was someone in 2009 putting it on a phone.
20110205 16:25:19< elias> did anyone ever try compiling wesnoth with sdl 1.3?
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20110205 16:28:49< Neoriceisgood> Hi Wesnoth devs
20110205 16:30:09< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> elias: i don't think so
20110205 16:30:11< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> hi Neoriceisgood
20110205 16:30:28< Neoriceisgood> Hi Ivanovic
20110205 16:30:33< Neoriceisgood> Do something cool
20110205 16:30:37< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> Neoriceisgood: for us fosdem dwellers thespaceinvader is currently doing some "live art creation" using the projector in the hacking room!
20110205 16:30:46< Neoriceisgood> I heard!
20110205 16:30:48< Neoriceisgood> David told me
20110205 16:31:02< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> :)
20110205 16:31:02< thespaceinvader> smile, neorice, you're on candid projector :P
20110205 16:31:10< Neoriceisgood> but I'm naked :(
20110205 16:31:11< thespaceinvader> wave to the nice people
20110205 16:31:16 * Neoriceisgood flashes the entire room
20110205 16:31:27< thespaceinvader> aaaand you're off again
20110205 16:31:43< Neoriceisgood> :(
20110205 16:32:00< Sirp|FOSDEM> Neoriceisgood: you could really flash if you were here. :p
20110205 16:32:05< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> hey, we need the space for artwork!
20110205 16:32:30< Neoriceisgood> I don't think I'd want to flash an entire room of Wesnoth fans.
20110205 16:32:36< Neoriceisgood> I fear too many of them might like it :'c
20110205 16:33:19< Neoriceisgood> http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g302/Neorice/thehighpriest.gif Instead have a sprite that I've changed over the course of time.
20110205 16:33:20< Neoriceisgood> :)
20110205 16:35:51< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> Neoriceisgood: nah, this is not a whole room of wesnoth fans
20110205 16:36:03< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> it is just the hacking room that we conquered (out of tradition)
20110205 16:36:36< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> though, the fosdem is about open source and are there really "open source people" that don't like wesnoth?
20110205 16:36:37< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> ;)
20110205 16:37:13< AI|FOSDEM> half of the room belongs to us though
20110205 16:37:31< Neoriceisgood> Hahah awesome :D
20110205 16:37:36< AI|FOSDEM> and we even occasionally scared people away by making them think it's our devroom
20110205 16:37:56< Gambit> Haha.
20110205 16:38:18< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> hey, we started the day with "conference like (almost moderated) talks/discussions!"
20110205 16:38:26< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> using the projector and everthing
20110205 16:38:27< elias> maybe the big text "wesnoth hack room" on the chalk board has to do with it? :P
20110205 16:38:37< AI|FOSDEM> it's not currently visible
20110205 16:38:44< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> elias: nah, that was not readable because of the projection
20110205 16:38:50< AI|FOSDEM> thanks to the big screen containing TSI's art
20110205 16:38:52< elias> true
20110205 16:38:58 * Ivanovic|FOSDEM thinks that we need a *huge* banner!
20110205 16:39:41< Neoriceisgood> A big banner with my good old pink thong trolls!
20110205 16:40:38< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> not sure about those
20110205 16:40:46< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> maybe better a pink elephant?
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20110205 16:41:14< elias> i like the elephant idea... wesnoth should get elephants
20110205 16:42:06< eoc> elephants!
20110205 16:42:53< loonycyborg> And Hannibal too :P
20110205 16:43:25< Neoriceisgood> if Wesnoth would ever allow for a new faction
20110205 16:43:31< elias> oh, btw loonycyborg... do you know how i make scons find boost in windows?
20110205 16:43:32< Neoriceisgood> I'd make an entire faction based around elephants
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20110205 16:45:05< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> Neoriceisgood: uhm, one of todays discussions was the kalifate
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20110205 16:45:16< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> and yeah, they are basically okay'd...
20110205 16:45:16< elias> you just have to go to fosdem and advertize your faction a bit
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20110205 16:46:16< loonycyborg> elias: With boostdir, boostlibdir and boost_suffix.
20110205 16:46:56< elias> ohh, boos_suffix, that's what i've been mising
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20110205 16:54:18< Neoriceisgood> Kalifate?
20110205 16:54:21< Neoriceisgood> Not sure
20110205 16:54:24< Cookiee> Is the Kalifate a totally new fraction or a fraction based on the earlier Kalifa fraction which is in BEEM ?
20110205 16:54:32< Neoriceisgood> I just want a faction of elephant people
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20110205 16:54:50< un214> make it
20110205 16:55:25< Gambit> Cookiee: I think it *is* the Kalifa faction from Extended Era.
20110205 16:57:11< AI|FOSDEM> it is
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20110205 16:57:48< Cookiee> Ugh 
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20110205 17:00:01< Cookiee> Basically dwarfs gone lawful and human then 
20110205 17:04:42< thespaceinvader> gambit etc: the Kalifa from EE are the basis, but the faction structure is changed, and where they'll fit into wesnothian canon is indistinct at best, currently
20110205 17:04:49< AI|FOSDEM> Cookiee: you're on the big screen now
20110205 17:06:26< Neoriceisgood> Yey big screen
20110205 17:06:28< Cookiee> AI|FOSDEM: thanks for the tip but i could easily assume that if thespaceinvader actually typed something here. Unless he has a promethian board 
20110205 17:07:24< thespaceinvader> typetypettytypetype
20110205 17:07:49< Cookiee> hahah sorry whenever i see thespaceinvader im reminded of that log xD lmaoo
20110205 17:08:08 * thespaceinvader raises disapproving eyebrow
20110205 17:08:35< Neoriceisgood> Space Invader do something cool
20110205 17:09:32< Cookiee> thespaceinvader: well goodluck with the balancing. If you get it wrong watch out for the swam of wesnoth players including the ladder ones which will rage like crazy to get their point out :) I'll make sure to direct them to you guys responsible :)
20110205 17:09:55< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> Cookiee: deekay already offered to have a look at the balancing, too
20110205 17:09:59< thespaceinvader> i am doing something cool
20110205 17:10:06< thespaceinvader> i am playing Gambit live on FOSDEM
20110205 17:10:08< Ivanovic|FOSDEM> Cookiee: yeah, he is sitting some 2m away
20110205 17:11:01< Cookiee> How did Gambit go there?
20110205 17:11:14< thespaceinvader> he's not there ;)
20110205 17:11:18< Cookiee> you're playing gambit?
20110205 17:11:21< CIA-89> ivanovic * r48413 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): updated German translation
20110205 17:11:25< Cookiee> you're PLAYING gambit?
20110205 17:11:27< Soliton> as long as they're not expected to go into default i'm fine with the kalifate. i agree with zookeeper's points though.
20110205 17:11:30< Cookiee> must be a awful game
20110205 17:11:32< thespaceinvader> by the marvels of teh intarwebs, we are playing from far away
20110205 17:11:58< Gambit> Soliton: I think that's where their target is :s
20110205 17:12:02< Cookiee> are you guys on mp? or playing gambits favourite minevraft?
20110205 17:12:15< AI|FOSDEM> MP
20110205 17:12:21< AI|FOSDEM> on the big screen
20110205 17:12:45< Cookiee> hahaha at least you guys will be on the right skill level :)
20110205 17:12:48< thespaceinvader> and deekay isn't helping me at all
20110205 17:12:55< boucman|FOSDEM> Soliton: an idea we had yesterday was to add kalifa to default and rename current default to something like "classical" so people like ladder players could still have random without kalifa, would you be fine with that ?
20110205 17:13:19< Cookiee> hey boucman :) long time. you never come on mp to observe anymore :l
20110205 17:14:05< Cookiee> thespaceinvader: maybe ask grzywacz if he still isnt coding =.="
20110205 17:14:09< Cookiee> 'coding'
20110205 17:14:40< Soliton> boucman|FOSDEM: something like that is what i expected. i'd not change default though but add a new era with default+kalifate.
20110205 17:14:57< Cookiee> wait thespaceinvader how are you guys playing each other if not on the offical server? are you guys in the dev mode?
20110205 17:15:00< boucman|FOSDEM> so, same thing the other way round :P
20110205 17:15:06< AI|FOSDEM> he's rewriting src/server/server.cpp
20110205 17:15:08< Soliton> yep.
20110205 17:15:12< thespaceinvader> 1.9.4
20110205 17:15:54< Cookiee> I'll be there in 10mins :L 
20110205 17:16:30< Cookiee> including installation time :L
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20110205 17:26:36< AI|FOSDEM> Cookiee: are you here yet?
20110205 17:26:57< Cookiee> okay 2 minutes for installation!
20110205 17:27:19< Cookiee> i kinda just left the download sitting there =.="
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20110205 17:29:44< timotei> hi
20110205 17:30:28< timotei> does there exist a live cam for fosdem? xD
20110205 17:30:41< timotei> or a live stream sounds better :P
20110205 17:30:51< Cookiee> TIMOTEI!
20110205 17:30:56< timotei> yes?
20110205 17:31:10< timotei> Gambit: I finally figured out the ... gameplay of Minecraft lol
20110205 17:31:27< timotei> and I've delete/installed it 4 times already, trying to break my addiction :(
20110205 17:31:30< Cookiee> that youtube vid, you linked me to was horrid. I thought i should remind you :L
20110205 17:31:34< timotei> you should have warned me :(
20110205 17:31:37< Gambit> Yes. FOSDEM definitely needs a webcam.
20110205 17:31:46< timotei> maybe a Wesnoth Room webcam
20110205 17:31:47< timotei> :P
20110205 17:31:56< timotei> just like in big brother lol
20110205 17:32:00< Cookiee> So Gambit can be even more pleasured !
20110205 17:32:01< Cookiee> ;D
20110205 17:32:01< timotei> Cookiee: I don't remember
20110205 17:32:11< Gambit> Cookiee: go away :P
20110205 17:32:19< timotei> I hate when I can't stop playing, instead of programming
20110205 17:32:33 * Cookiee pats timotei 'Some people justhave bad memories including you' :L
20110205 17:32:34< Gambit> timotei: It's Ok. It goes away after a few months.
20110205 17:32:36< Gambit> Probably.
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20110205 17:33:02< Cookiee> memory* sorry its 3amish
20110205 17:33:17< timotei> Gambit: MONTHS!? omg
20110205 17:33:18< timotei> :(
20110205 17:33:39< timotei> I've managed to temporarly block the minecraft.net domain with the router
20110205 17:33:47< Cookiee> timotei: you could always give away your computer :3
20110205 17:34:09< timotei> Cookiee: umm.. it's not the computer who is "evil". it's the internetz that allows me to re-download minecraft
20110205 17:34:11< timotei> :P
20110205 17:34:21< elias> i only was addicted for a few days
20110205 17:34:38< Cookiee> but you hit more stones. Youre parents will be happy you saving electricity and you'll have more free time 
20110205 17:34:39< Gambit> thespaceinvader: I want to see you versus shadowmaster :)
20110205 17:34:41< elias> they i managed to kill my underground tree plantage with lava
20110205 17:34:49< Cookiee> i wanna kill thespaceinvader
20110205 17:35:02< Neoriceisgood> a versus?
20110205 17:35:22< Cookiee> I just came on the server...
20110205 17:35:39< thespaceinvader> o fine
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20110205 17:35:45< boucman|FOSDEM> Cookiee: he's drawing birdies right now..
20110205 17:35:47< thespaceinvader> keep me from my important work :P
20110205 17:35:54< timotei> wow, so many guys at fosdem
20110205 17:35:54< timotei> :D
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20110205 17:36:15< boucman|FOSDEM> 14 of us
20110205 17:36:26< Cookiee> boucman|FOSDEM: he should draw a cookie :L maybe with milk
20110205 17:36:32< Cookiee> anyone had fruit loops before
20110205 17:37:16< thespaceinvader> Cookiee: you going to make a game then?
20110205 17:37:34< Cookiee> wait did the 1v1 between Gambit and you were no observers?
20110205 17:37:47< Gambit> So this is in Poland?
20110205 17:37:55< elias> the whole hacker room was observing :)
20110205 17:38:02< Sirp|FOSDEM> Gambit: no, in Belgium.
20110205 17:38:03< thespaceinvader> and soliton
20110205 17:38:17< thespaceinvader> brussels to be precise
20110205 17:38:21< Gambit> "How not to play Wesnoth"
20110205 17:38:48< Cookiee> how long does it take for the replay to come up =.="
20110205 17:38:51< Cookiee> okay I host
20110205 17:38:52< Cookiee> :D
20110205 17:39:18< timotei> don't you guys play Gambit's breaking ground map? :D
20110205 17:39:27< Gambit> timotei: That's a great idea! :D
20110205 17:39:43< timotei> (I won't play though, have the last exam tomorrow
20110205 17:39:48< Cookiee> no i wanna kill him
20110205 17:39:53< timotei> at least I'll have a short holiday after that)
20110205 17:40:00< shadowmaster> I'm not playing.
20110205 17:40:11< timotei> at last I've finished with all maths in this university
20110205 17:40:25< Cookiee> haha shadowmaster you're so cutee ! :D remind me of a child ^^ 
20110205 17:40:30< Cookiee> thespaceinvader: pick a map so i can hostr
20110205 17:40:40< thespaceinvader> i've just created a hamlets game
20110205 17:40:43< thespaceinvader> come on in
20110205 17:40:48< Cookiee> oh nvm :D
20110205 17:42:16< timotei> ok, I'm out 
20110205 17:42:18< timotei> have fun :D
20110205 17:42:25< timotei> (and don't forget the group picture :P )
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20110205 17:50:09< Cookiee> crashed
20110205 17:51:02< thespaceinvader> aborted, not that attached to a mirror
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20110205 17:52:20< Soliton> you both have a game opne now.
20110205 17:52:39< Cookiee> i realise
20110205 17:52:42< Cookiee> now he loged off
20110205 17:52:49< Cookiee> either that or crashed
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20110205 17:55:23< CIA-89> grzywacz * r48414 /trunk/src/server/ (server.cpp server.hpp): Merge branch 'server'
20110205 17:55:30< Gambit> Soliton: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=33005&p=477806#p477806
20110205 17:55:51< grzywacz> gitfail
20110205 17:59:26-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: FOSDEM2011: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Fosdem2011 | 192 bugs, 310 feature requests, 24 patches | logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://wesnoth.pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20110205 17:59:47< thespaceinvader> have to go soon, so not starting another game
20110205 18:00:45< Cookiee> so in Belgium do you guys stay in the same room? (hotel)?
20110205 18:00:52< CIA-89> dragonking * r48415 /trunk/src/ (4 files): Fixed replay player bug: Team1 point of view now should work
20110205 18:01:01< Cookiee> grzywacz said the plane tickets were free :P
20110205 18:02:49< Sirp|FOSDEM> yup, 14 Wesnoth developers crammed into a hotel room.
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20110205 18:03:50< Cookiee> im wondering if i should say what my first reaction to the response would but but i dont think it good ^^ :X
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20110205 18:09:22< grzywacz> foodtime
20110205 18:09:40< AI|FOSDEM> yeah
20110205 18:09:42< mordante|FOSDEM> same here ;-)
20110205 18:09:43< CIA-89> dragonking * r48416 /trunk/src/replay_controller.cpp: Fixed replay player bug: Team1 point of view now should work - improvement
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20110205 18:40:58 * Soliton wonders what the idea behind that 'server' branch is/was.
20110205 18:41:46< un214> around 1.4 the official server needed a bunch of changes after stable was released
20110205 18:41:53< un214> maybe that's what it's for
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20110205 18:44:45< Soliton> i'm talking about commit 48414 which looks like code duplication and horrible formatting traded for a possible speed increase in admin command parsing.
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20110205 23:52:53< elias> heh, dave after paying everyone's dinner "wesnoth can afford that only because of the appstore"
20110205 23:53:14< elias> so now everyone at fosdem thinks appstore is a great idea :)
20110205 23:56:52< mordocai> elias: Well, the problem of course is still that technically wesnoth shouldn't be on the appstore at all...
20110205 23:58:25< elias> well, they discussed it (before this) and it sounded all reasonable, i think the results will be posted to the mailing list after fosdem
20110205 23:59:52< stikonas> none of us (them) are lawyers, so it is difficult to say what would happen in the legal system
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